I'm living in Dundalk if I can be of any assistance "synedis" <synedis@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message news:434f656b$0$4749$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au... > Has anybody heard of a spirit license holder list somewhere > for dundalk ,louth, arround 1885? > tks > denis > australia >

<Patscga@aol.com> wrote in message news:a3.7d76b168.3082507e@aol.com... > I went to the local LDS library and got access to birth records for all > of > Ireland in the pre 1922 time frame. > > How far back do the records go? http://www.genfindit.com/ibirths.htm shows an index of births from 1864 to 1921. This is followed by a whole lot of microfilm numbers with labels such as births volumes 1 to 20 for 1864, and likewise many volumes for each year to 1955. I haven't actually seen any of the latter, and don't know how they differ from the indexes at the start. (OK, indices!) Can someone here tell us please? GKM

I just ordered some birth certificates, and although I put the parents names on the form, I have three birth certificates for children who are not the right family line - totally different parents. The death certificate I ordered was the only one which was correct. The baby was only 6 weeks old, there is no record of her birth being registered. Does anyone need any birth certificates for family name "Derham" - father Thomas, mother Bridget? Malvary in Ottawa ""Eve Ferguson"" <Coyston@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:004701c5d184$a6b8bbe0$0100007f@localhost... > 1864 > Eve > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Patscga@aol.com> > To: <GENIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 8:30 AM > Subject: Re: Birth Records > > >> >> In a message dated 10/14/2005 11:46:43 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, >> gkmcauliff@cox.net writes: >> >> I went to the local LDS library and got access to birth records for all >> of >> Ireland in the pre 1922 time frame. >> >> >> How far back do the records go? >

1864 Eve ----- Original Message ----- From: <Patscga@aol.com> To: <GENIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 8:30 AM Subject: Re: Birth Records > > In a message dated 10/14/2005 11:46:43 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > gkmcauliff@cox.net writes: > > I went to the local LDS library and got access to birth records for all > of > Ireland in the pre 1922 time frame. > > > How far back do the records go?

In a message dated 10/14/2005 11:46:43 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, gkmcauliff@cox.net writes: I went to the local LDS library and got access to birth records for all of Ireland in the pre 1922 time frame. How far back do the records go?

BALLINA CHRONICLE Ballina, Mayo, Ireland Wednesday, March 27, 1850 POTATO PLANTING The preparations which are making in every part of this portion of the province are on a scale far more extensive than any former year within our recollection. Cattle are sold and even several articles of household furniture and wearing apparel at tremendous sacrifices by the poor landholders to purchase seed potatoes. The chief cause of this is obvious, and it affords a practical proof of the ruinous policy of Free Trade in this country. The small farmers, who allowed themselves to be led into the conviction that "Protection" was a curse by those who hated the aristocracy and exulted in anything that might injure the landed proprietors, are now sadly convinced that the export trade of Ireland is ruined - that there is no longer a market for any description of grain. The potato always found a ready market at home and remunerated the grower, so much so that £5 and £6 were willingly given for what was called a con-acre. Potatoes are even now fetching a higher price though they are by no means scarce and have to compete with Indian meal. The price of former years is confidently expected and the success of the crop last year is an encouragement to its very extensive cultivation this year. Should there be such a failure this year as we had in 1846 and '47 the consequences must be fearful, but this there is no reason to dread. In any case, however, it is to be much regretted that the people are compelled in self-defence to occupy the land they are in a position to cultivate with a crop which if successful can only bring temporary relief. Cathy Joynt Labath Ireland Old News http://www.IrelandOldNews.com/

BALLINA CHRONICLE Ballina, Mayo, Ireland Wednesday, March 27, 1850 PRIESTLY INTOLERANCE Father O'Neill of fighting notoriety is once more before the public in another though no less creditable phase of character. His holy oil, more harmless than his "skull-cracker," has lately been in requisition to secure a safe transit form this world for a poor deluded heretic. The reverend minister, however, is not an exception among his brethren. The desire to gain converts is deeply and universally inculcated in the Romish church. The edict has gone forth. By every means and at every point those who have protested against the errors of that church must be assailed; every advantage must be taken and exulted over as a victory achieved. An end is to be accomplished and that end justifies the means and the means are regulated by the circumstances of the times and the country. Nothing is deemed too trifling to gain and therefore we find the priest hastening whenever he can to the unconscious dying Protestant to perform an useless and unscriptural rite, that he may glory over what he considers to be a successful thrust at the Protestant cause. Frequently have instances come before our notice of emissaries from Rome obtaining access through a servant or other friendly person to the bed side of a Protestant in a dying state unconscious of what was going on, and there use the "holy oil" and then claim the dead as a true convert to the Roman Catholic faith; but never have we heard of a more barefaced and unchristian transaction than that recorded by a correspondent of the Sligo Guardian which we here give as an additional instance of Priestly intolerance and as a cautionary example:- A Police Constable named Greer, a native of Antrim, and a Protestant, was attacked by paralysis during the assizes and placed under Dr. Homan's care, until the night of the 18th inst. when a sudden fit of convulsions deprived him of life. The Rev. Samuel Shone, curate of this parish accompanied the police to the cemetery, and when about performing the burial service, was strangely interrupted by the celebrated fighting priest O'Neill, who followed by a large assemblage of pickpockets and low ruffians, insisted on his right of burying the constable, because, forsooth, on the evening of his death, when inward agony had deprived him of all consciousness, he gave him some holy oil! as a passport to another world, at the instigation of some country girl to whom the deceased had been clandestinely married some time previous. The scene that followed baffles all description. The police officer was asked by the priest with that calm dignity and angelic expression of countenance peculiar to the son of the church, "would he dare to stop him," and the motley group shouted out a savage negative-stones were flung, and a constable had to be sent for Capt. Whelan. During the interim the light-fingered gentry had a rich harvest from the pockets of the few respectable persons present, and the search for handkerchiefs, shouts of "O'Neill for ever," "save the poor peeler from the devil," only equalled the similar scenes now and then enacted in Dingle. While the presiding genius of the affray, "grinned horribly a ghastly smile," as he awaited the decision of the authorities. I cannot tell how it occurred, but brute force was triumphant - a Northern Protestant was consigned to a popish grave, without a single relative near him, and the feeling of his comrades may be learned from the words of one to whom I spoke on the matter. - "Poor Greer, when I was in church with him at the assizes I little thought a priest would bury him." - Further comment is useless. Cathy Joynt Labath Ireland Old News http://www.IrelandOldNews.com/

BALLINA CHRONICLE Ballina, Mayo, Ireland Wednesday, March 27, 1850 DREADFUL OCCURRENCE IN THE COUNTY OF ARMAGH - The peaceful town and neighbourhood of Portadown have been horrified to an unprecedented extent, by an act of deliberate assassination, committed in the vicinity on the night of Tuesday, the 19th, when Mr. John G. Woolsey, of Clounagh, about three quarters of a mile from the town was shot in his room while preparing to go to bed. From the evidence taken before the magistrates and coroner, the facts appear to be these - Mr. Woolsey, who had quitted the house after tea returned about half-past nine, and, after stopping a short time in the kitchen, took his candle and proceeded up stairs to his chamber. He had not long been there - not more than ten minutes - when the maid servant, who had remained below, heard a shot, succeeded by the falling of some heavy body in the room above; on entering the room she found Mr. Woolsey extended on the floor, near the window, bleeding but still showing signs of life. An alarm was instantly made and the best medical aid procured from Portadown, with as little delay as possible, but to no purpose, the unfortunate gentleman having expired in a short time thereafter. On examination, it appeared that a bullet fired from without, after perforating the glass of the window, had passed through his head, and was found lodged among some clothes in a wardrobe. The police were immediately on the alert. Mr. Atkinson, the coroner, held an inquest on the body on Wednesday, but as yet, there is no clue to the perpetrator of so foul a deed. Cathy Joynt Labath Ireland Old News http://www.IrelandOldNews.com/

GKM wrote: >> :> http://www.genfindit.com/ibirths.htm >> :> LDS Film Numbers for Index to Irish civil birth records I went to the local LDS library and got access to birth records for all of Ireland in the pre 1922 time frame. These were in the form of microfilm, one microfilm per quarter. Because they were alphabetized, I could look for an individual name in a given quarter. Is that the way they are to be seen at an Irish BND office, or are they computerized? Replies appreciated. GKM

Has anybody heard of a spirit license holder list somewhere for dundalk ,louth, arround 1885? tks denis australia

From The Cork Examiner, 14 August 1861 - AMERICA LONDONDERRY, TUESDAY.--The North American, from Quebec on 3d inst., has arrived. She brings £30,890 in specie. The Fulton had arrived out. Passed steamers United Kingdom, Anglo-Saxon, and Bohemian. The Canadian s.s. Norwegian, which left Liverpool on the 18th and Derry on the 19th ult., passed Farther Point on the evening of 3d inst. On the morning of 29th ult., owing to a thick fog, she struck on a reef of rocks 36 miles S.E. of the north point of Anticosti. A large portion of the cargo was thrown overboard. She was afloat aft all of the time. On the 2nd inst., the passengers were put on board the United Kingdom. On the same night the Norwegian came off undamaged and proceeded to Quebec, but owing to light head winds had not yet arrived. The mails were put on board a schooner on the 31st. The United Kingdom was expected at Farther Point to-night. American politics unimportant. Canadian crops reported satisfactory. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dennis Ahern | Immigrant Ships Transcribers Guild, Irish Maritime News Acton, Mass. | http://immigrantships.net/newsarticles/newsarticles.html - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

I recently came across a clipping I have been saving for many years. Thought you might enjoy reading it. That phrase, "the luck of the Irish" has been traced to numerous historical occurrences, including this one: In 1773, it's written, a robber named Patrick Redmond was hanged by the neck for 29 minutes, cut down by friends, and revived with tobacco enemas. Jo Redmond Kester

Freeman Journal Dublin, Ireland Tuesday, August 7, 1764 DUBLIN The Right Hon. and Hon. the Commissioners of his Majesty's Revenue have been pleased to appoint Thomas Hughes, Esq; Clerk of the Revenue Postage, in the room of William Norcliff, Esq; resigned. A few Days ago a great Number of human Sculls, Bones, &c. were dug up by some Labourers at the Back of the New-Gardens, supposed to have lain there since the Time the Danes invaded this Kingdom, tho' they seemed fresh and without Decay. The Commissioners of his Majesty's Revenue have been pleased to appoint Messrs. Francis Spring, Edward Tennant, John Delap, Edward Kilkenny, and William Coperthwaite, to be Officers on the Custom-House Key. Sunday, July 29th] The following Gentlemen were ordained Priests by the Lord Bishop of Limerick at the Church of Stillorgan: Edward Day, A.M. Hon. Wm. Beresford, Thomas Sandiford, Walter Thomas and Philip Homan Bachelors of Arts. Thursday, August 2d.] The Commission of Oyer and Terminer ended, at which the following Persons were tried and found guilty, viz. Michael Cosgrave, Michael Rigney and John Higgins otherwise Dwyer, for Robberies, and were ordered to be executed on the 15th of September next, and Christopher Fiddes for Robbery, was also ordered for Transportation. The next Commission will begin on the 20th of October. A Mr. Tho. Finlay, of the Co. of Wexford, was coming to Dublin, by his Horse falling on the Road near Windgates, he was thrown off and killed on the Spot; as he was a Man of a very fair Character his Death is greatly lamented. The Ranger Sloop of War, Lieutenant Paisly, arrived in our Bay from a Cruize. Last Saturday, as John Bury, Esq; was Bathing himself near Ringsend, he was unfortunately drowned. Henry Gore, Esq; was married to Miss Smyth, Daughter to the late Mr. Skeffington Smyth, Esq. a most amiable and accomplished young Lady, with a very considerable Fortune; as was also William Upton, Esq; to Miss Clarges, Daughter of Colonel Clarges, a young Lady possessed of the finest Accomplishments, and a large Fortune. MARRIED.] A few Days ago, Richard St. George of Athlone, Esq; one of the Representatives for that Borough to Miss Persse, only Daughter of Robert Persse, of Roxborough in the County of Galway, Esq. DEATHS] A few Days ago, at Armagh, Mr. Thomas Kennedy, Watchmaker.- Mrs. Catharine Doyle, Wife of Mr. William Doyle of Monatobar in the Co. of Kildare. - At Cork, Mr. M'Cann, Master of a Scotch Vessel; - Miss Mary Fowlne of Ballineadig; - In New-Street, Mr. Thomas Ward, an opulent Butcher of New-market. - In an advanced Age, Mrs. Stewart, Relict of the late Col. Stewart. - In Castle-lane, Mr. Thomas Shepherd, Publican. Cathy Joynt Labath Ireland Old News http://www.IrelandOldNews.com/

Freeman Journal Dublin, Ireland Saturday, August 4, 1764 COUNTRY NEWS Cork, July 30. Yesterday S'night Mr. David Sheehan, of Rivertown, Paper-maker, read his Recantation at Rathcoony Church, near this City: And Yesterday Mrs. Mary Ann Chartres and Ellinor Coughlan, read their Recantation from the Errors of the Church of Room in St. Peter's Church. Saturday last, a Suit which had long depending in the Consistory Court of Cork, between Mr. Thomas Barter and Sarah his Wife, was concluded in Court, before the Right Reverend the Lord Bishop of Cork and Ross; Mr. Barter having dismissed the Suit, paying all the Alimony and Costs. This Morning the full Division of Colonel Talbot's Regiment, lately landed from the West Indies, marched from hence for Galway, where they are to quarter. Yesterday was married, Mr. William Russel, Shopkeeper, to the agreeable Miss King of Cockpit Lane, both of the People called Quakers. DEATHS. Friday Evening at Coolroe, the Seat of Joseph Witheral, Esq; after a tedious Illness, Mrs. Hilgrove, Widow of the late Mr. Joseph Hilgrove of this City. - Yesterday on the Coal Quay, Mrs. Russel, Wife of Capt. Russel. Last Monday early in the Morning Michael Brady was detected stealing Lead off the Theatre Royal in Crow-street and lodged in Newgate. Pat Higley, one of the Persons said to be concerned in rescuing the Tea which was seized at Howth, some Time since, died in Michael's-lane, of the Wounds which he then received. We hear that the Commissioners of his Majesty's Revenue have appointed George Martin, Esq; to be Collector of the Port of Dublin, in the Room of James Smyth, Esq; who resigns. MARRIED] A few Days ago, Mr. Edward Ryan, of Ballinakill, in the County of Kildare, Gent. to Miss Kitty Reily, Daughter to Mr. Phillip Reily of Ballimorris, near Granard. - Last Saturday James Flack, an eminent Attorney of the Courts of King's Bench and Exchequer, was married to the Widow Harrington, otherwise Scott, Daughter of the late Captain James Scott; a Lady whose considerable Fortune is one of her least Charms. DEATHS] A few Days ago, in Cork, the Revd. Mr. Dermot M'Carthy, a Romish Clergyman. - In Kilkenny, the Revd. Mr. Charters, Minister of St. Mary's in that City. - In Winetavern-street, the Wife of Mr. Pat Taaffe, Publican. - At Kells, Mr. Thomas Fenner; and Miss Rose Maxwell. - In High-street, Mr. James Murray, Woollen Draper. - In Aungier-street, Mrs. Ward, Relict of ___ Ward, of the County of Wexford, Esq; - In Smithfield, in a very advanced Age, the Honourable Mrs. Barnewell.- Monday last at his House in Abbey-street, Mr. Thomas Ligoe, Card Merchant, of whom it may be justly said, that in every Stage of Life, as a Son, Husband, Father, and Man of Business he endeared himself to all that knew him; to be deprived of such a Member of Society must be a Loss to the Public, but to his disconsolate Family and Friends, an irrepabale [sic] one. Cathy Joynt Labath Ireland Old News http://www.IrelandOldNews.com/

THE CONNAUGHT JOURNAL Galway, Monday, September 20, 1824 HOW TO CATCH AND HOW TO CURE A COLD At this time of the year colds are easily caught, and difficult to cure. The following will be found effectual: - After a quick walk in the evening, sit in the draft to cool; the consequence will be a severe cold, attended with cough; the next day hoarseness, short breath, and much expectoration; in the evening, at seven, go to a well-frequented tavern, and drink three or four glasses of strong punch, or stiff rum and water; stay till eleven, walk home cosey, and go to bed; you need not get up the next day, but send for the apothecary, the following day for the physician, and the third day your friends will send for the undertaker. You will never feel the effects of an autumnal cold afterwards. Cathy Joynt Labath Ireland Old News http://www.IrelandOldNews.com/

THE CONNAUGHT JOURNAL Galway, Thursday, September 16, 1824 PROVINCIAL INTELLIGENCE ENNIS, SEPT. 13 - Tuesday, as the Right Hon. John Ormsby Vandeleur and Sir Hugh Dillon Massy, Bart. were riding toward Kilrush, from Kilmore, the seat of Poole Hickman, Esq. the horse of the former becoming restive, threw him on his side, which was bruised severely; he also received a slight contusion on the forehead. His carriage was sent for immediately, and he was removed to his mansion, at Kilrush, when medical assistance was sent for - we are happy to learn, that no dangerous consequences are apprehended. Thursday, a poor man dropped apparently dead, in the streets of Kilrush. Will it be believed that want of food was the cause of this melancholy circumstance? The entire amount of Presentments granted at the last Assizes of the County of Clare, is £8916.5s.0d. CORK, SEPT. 11 - On Wednesday night last, some keepers who had distrained crops on the lands of Ballinure, at Blackrock, within the liberties of Cork, where there were two years rent due to the landlord, John T. Rye, Esq. were visited by an armed party, who ordered them into a house, on threat of shooting them if they disobeyed. When inside, the door was locked on them, and all the corn, &c., comprising the chief part of the distress, was removed from the lands. This is another specimen of what the liberals term "returning tranquility." The Arabian pony rode by Lord Combermere, carried Napoleon at the battle of Waterloo. Wednesday the Anne and Amelia sailed from Cork with convicts to New South Wales. Cathy Joynt Labath Ireland Old News http://www.IrelandOldNews.com/

BALLINA CHRONICLE Ballina, Mayo, Ireland Wednesday, March 27, 1850 NENAGH ASSIZES - Thursday Trial of Dr. Langley for the murder of his Wife. The Right Hon. Judge Ball took his seat on the bench in the Crown Court, at ten o'clock. A few minutes after the prisoner, Dr. Langley, came into the dock, and advancing to the front bowed to his Lordship. He was dressed in black, his long black hair was parted on his forehead, and fell down over his shoulders. The moustaches which he wore last assizes were shaved off on the present occasion. - There was nothing in his appearance that could betray the forty days' fast, which he averred he had undergone. Mr. Scott, for the Crown, consented to quash one indictment, and entered a nolle prosequi on that preferred at last assizes. The Clerk of the Crown then proceeded to call over the panel and the following are the names of the jury sworn, 26 of the panel having been previously set aside or challenged - John Bennett, John Crawford, Samuel Cooke, James Willington, Solomon B. Cambie, John Hemsworth, John Phillips, Ralph Smith, Thomas Dolan, Richard Short, Richard Nash, Dudley Byrne. The jury having been sworn, the prisoner was given in charge for that he before and on the 5th December, in the year 1848, not having the fear of God before his eyes, and contriving and intending wilfully and feloniously on his malice prepense to kill and murder Eleanor Langley, his wife, on the 5th December, 1848, or on the 1st May 1849, did so kill and murder her, by confining here against her will in a certain cold, unwholesome, and unhealthy lodging, and by declining to give her sufficient medicine and proper food for the support of her body. Another count stated that death was caused by his providing her with food injurious to her body and health. Clerk of the Crown - How say you, Charles Langley, guilty or not guilty? Prisoner (in a loud voice) - Not Guilty. Mr. Scott, Q.C., then addressed the court and jury for the prosecution. The following witnesses were examined for the prosecution, in support of the indictment and counsel's statement: - Eliza Rohan, who lived in Dr. Langley's house as servant; Mary Cleary, Gabriel Prior, clerk to Dr. Langley; Margaret Meara, landlady of the house in which Mr. Langley lodged; Thomas Pound, the servant whose evidence on the inquest created such horror when he said he was instigated to improper intimacy with Mrs. Langley while on her sick bed; Dr. Francis Cahalen, James M'Grath, groom to Dr. Langley, Dr. O'Neill Quin, Dr. Edward Kitson, who attended the post mortem examination on the body of Eleanor Langley, and found it in a state of great emaciation and attenuation, and remembered Mrs. Langley to come to his house on several occasions for something to eat; Dr. Finucane, Dr. Frith, Rev. Benjamin F. Bewley, and Mary Clanchy. This witness's evidence showed the case for the prosecution. FRIDAY. Judge Ball entered court this morning at 9 o'clock. The court was densely crowded. Mr. Martley, Q.C., proceeded in an able address to speak to the defense for the prisoner. THE RESULT. - The jury, at 9 o'clock at night, returned a verdict of "Not Guilty." Cathy Joynt Labath Ireland Old News http://www.IrelandOldNews.com/

Thank you, Mr. Merrigan, for calling my attention to your Society's newsletter, and in particular for the enlightening item no. 1. I have spent more than ten years trying to locate my roots in Cork and possibly Tipperary, but to no avail. My family probably think me a fool for putting so much effort into it. It pains me that now that a few members of the family are warming up to the idea of going with me to visit the place in Ireland from which our ancestors came, I have no idea where to take them. Jim H. GSI.Secretary@familyhistory.ie wrote: > Greetings from the Genealogical Society of Ireland www.familyhistory.ie > > > A Chairde, > > The October issue of the monthly newsletter "The Genie Gazette" > published by the Genealogical Society of Ireland is now uploaded to the > Society's website www.familyhistory.ie > > Featured in this issue:- > > + Irish Genealogical Project - Time for Action (C. & A. G. Report) > + James Scannell reports.. > + Dr. Hyde Papers > + Golfers on Stamps > + 9/11 Chaplain > + Irish Examiner - 100 Years of News > + IFHS Seminar > + Dublin Historical Record > + History Ireland > + Sr. M. Bernadette de Lourdes (1907-2005)- GSI Vice President > + Special Ceremony - 25th October 2005 > + Annual Membership Fee > + An Daonchartlann (Martello Tower at Seapoint, Co. Dublin) > + Diary Dates > + Queries Recieved > + 50th Anniversary of the Adoption of the European Flag > > Should you wish to view our publications or to join the Society see > www.familyhistory.ie/shop > > Kindest regards > > Michael Merrigan > Hon. Secretary > Genealogical Society of Ireland > www.familyhistory.ie >

I'd also like to know about seamen from Rush 1800 - 1850's. Mary in Oz. ann atkinson wrote: > Can anyone help me or point me in the right direction for Merchant > Seamen 1900-1914. My Great Grandad was a Seaman who according to family > stories sailed with Shackleton. > Where can I get this information please. >

Greetings from the Genealogical Society of Ireland www.familyhistory.ie A Chairde, The October issue of the monthly newsletter "The Genie Gazette" published by the Genealogical Society of Ireland is now uploaded to the Society's website www.familyhistory.ie Featured in this issue:- + Irish Genealogical Project - Time for Action (C. & A. G. Report) + James Scannell reports.. + Dr. Hyde Papers + Golfers on Stamps + 9/11 Chaplain + Irish Examiner - 100 Years of News + IFHS Seminar + Dublin Historical Record + History Ireland + Sr. M. Bernadette de Lourdes (1907-2005)- GSI Vice President + Special Ceremony - 25th October 2005 + Annual Membership Fee + An Daonchartlann (Martello Tower at Seapoint, Co. Dublin) + Diary Dates + Queries Recieved + 50th Anniversary of the Adoption of the European Flag Should you wish to view our publications or to join the Society see www.familyhistory.ie/shop Kindest regards Michael Merrigan Hon. Secretary Genealogical Society of Ireland www.familyhistory.ie