THE CONNAUGHT JOURNAL Galway, Monday, September 27, 1824 ORANGE ASSOCIATION The following Grand Committee of forty-nine were unanimously elected at the last Half-Yearly Meeting:- The Earl of Enniskillen, Florence-Court Earl of Aldborough, Stratford-Lodge Earl of Rathdown, Charleville Earl of Courtown, Wexford Viscount Blaney, Castle Blaney Viscount Valencia, County Wexford Viscount Frankfort de Montmorency, Glassnevin Viscount Lorton, Henrietta-street Right Hon. Sir G.F. Hill, Bart, M.F. Brookhall Right Hon. Sir J. Stewart, Bart. M.F. Ballygawly Hon. Charles J.K. Monck, Templemore Sir Richard St. George, Bart, Drumalgo Lodge Rev. Sir Harcourt Lees, Bart, Black Rock General Archdall, M.P. Enniskillen General Hart, M.P. Kildorry Colonel Leslie, M.P. Glassloch Castle Charles Brownslow, Esq, M.P. Lurgan Hall. Thomas Ellis, Esq, M.P. Abbotstown Edmond A. M'Naughton, Esq. M.P., Beardaville Colonel Pratt, Conny Castle Colonel H.T. Clements, Coote Hill Colonel Irwin, Taurago Colonel Phaire, Killoughrim Forest Major John Cape Chetwood, Woodbrook Nicholas D.C. Crumelin, Esq, Down Henry L Tottenham, Esq, M'Murragh Island Major Eccles, Newtown Mountkennedy Henry Alcock, Esq., Wilton Thomas Ball, Esq., Master in Chancery Captain James Verner, Holles-street John Le Poer Trench, Esq, Tuam Palace Richmond Allen, Esq, Eccles-street George Hill, Esq, Killaster William James Alexander, Esq, Boolestown George Farran, Esq. York-street Edward Burrowes, Esq, Mountjoy-square John Radcliff, Esq, Summer-hill, Dublin Edward Verner, Esq, Stephen's-green, Dublin Samuel Thomas Potter, Sheanstown Alexander Fari??, Esq, Gardiner's place George M Knipe, Esq, Belturbet Edward Jones, Esq, Dundrum George Fearon, Esq, Digges-street. Allan Elliston, Esq, Pill-lane Alfred Howard, Esq, Drumcondra Edwin Byron, Esq, College James Cavendish, Esq, Merrion-square T Bolton Sunderland, Esq, Sea-Point, Black-Rock Acting Grand Secretaries: Mr. J.P. Patterson, Globe Insurance, Office, 37, Westmoreland-st. Mr. Q. R. Gowen, Mt. Negro, Gorey 13th September, 1824 Cathy Joynt Labath Ireland Old News http://www.IrelandOldNews.com/

On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 12:36:42 -0000, Trish wrote: > Thank you so much to everyone who helped. I firmly believe what goes around > comes around, and this has been confirmed in the past couple of days. > Thank you all. > My site is no longer at that URL, only at the one it should be at. Congratulations. I hope you don't have any more problems like this.

On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 12:59:31 +0000 (UTC), Dennis Ahern <ahern@world.std.com> wrote: >In soc.genealogy.ireland Phil C. <philstoxicwaste@fsmail.net> wrote: >... >: Frederick Nicholls Crouch was English but enjoyed some minor celebrity >: as a "lecturer on Irish minstrelsy" - that's his primary description >: on his lithographed portrait of ca1840 in the British Museum. This >... >: Do you recall ever coming across any reference to him at all in Irish >: newspapers? Thanks for any help. > >By entering "Crouch" in the search engine of the IrelandOldNews website I >found two pages, one of which quotes the Waterford Press in the Cork >Examiner of a Miss Hickie performing pieces by "Bellini, Crouch, Rossini, >Thalberg and Czerinay" http://www.irelandoldnews.com/Cork/1847/SEP.html > >The other reference is a death notice for James Crouch, at Lisburn, 1764 >http://www.irelandoldnews.com/Dublin/1764/FEB.html Thanks for response. Those are all I could see on the website. The composer mentioned is probably him but his name turned up on a lot of standard concert programmes - the very absence of other refs on sources so far catalogued on the site doesn't suggest he was much publicised in Ireland itself. Nor have I found any hint of Irish ancestry. >I suggest that you search an index to The Times, either in print or >online, for Frederick Nicholls Crouch and if any of them mention his >touring in Ireland, look for contemporary reports or reviews in local >or national Irish papers. I've already looked at the Times and found nothing about Ireland - though there's plenty of juicy stuff about him - nor in any other source I've seen. It always remains possible that some reference will turn up - especially as his name has appeared in various inaccurate versions. I don't want to be categorical in a final "definitive" draft but I think I can reasonably say that it seems unlikely that he ever actually visited Ireland in his life in spite of his connection to "Irish" music. His name still appears on compilations of Irish songs. I'm not even sure the claim was his. His memoirs appeared when he was in his late 70s and had almost illegible handwriting. I suspect he gave a rambling interview which was then edited and re-written to match the needs of the journal - it would explain a lot. It makes it even harder to sort the wheat from the chaff in producing a final version while my eyesight can still cope. -- Phil C.

In soc.genealogy.ireland Phil C. <philstoxicwaste@fsmail.net> wrote: ... : Frederick Nicholls Crouch was English but enjoyed some minor celebrity : as a "lecturer on Irish minstrelsy" - that's his primary description : on his lithographed portrait of ca1840 in the British Museum. This ... : Do you recall ever coming across any reference to him at all in Irish : newspapers? Thanks for any help. By entering "Crouch" in the search engine of the IrelandOldNews website I found two pages, one of which quotes the Waterford Press in the Cork Examiner of a Miss Hickie performing pieces by "Bellini, Crouch, Rossini, Thalberg and Czerinay" http://www.irelandoldnews.com/Cork/1847/SEP.html The other reference is a death notice for James Crouch, at Lisburn, 1764 http://www.irelandoldnews.com/Dublin/1764/FEB.html I suggest that you search an index to The Times, either in print or online, for Frederick Nicholls Crouch and if any of them mention his touring in Ireland, look for contemporary reports or reviews in local or national Irish papers. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dennis Ahern | Ireland Newspaper Abstracts Acton, Massachusetts | http://www.IrelandOldNews.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Thank you so much to everyone who helped. I firmly believe what goes around comes around, and this has been confirmed in the past couple of days. Thank you all. My site is no longer at that URL, only at the one it should be at. -- Trish Dublin, Ireland http://www.loughman.dna.ie

"Cathy Joynt Labath" wrote: >BALLINA CHRONICLE >Ballina, Mayo, Ireland >Wednesday, April 3, 1850 > > > SERIOUS ACCIDENT - We deeply regret to announce that on yesterday >afternoon, as the Rev. Marcus M'Causland, the highly respectable rector of >this parish, [...] Which parish? He was, according to Burke's Irish Family Records, 1976, Rector of Birr, King's co.

BALLINA CHRONICLE Ballina, Mayo, Ireland Wednesday, April 10, 1850 EMIGRATION Mr. Buchanan, chief agent for emigration at Quebec, states, in his report for 1849, to the Governor General of Canada, Lord Elgin: - The adult passengers on board the whole number of vessels (447) were 31,145. The 134 ships from England might have legally carried 16,569 passengers more than the number embarked; the 59 vessels from Scotland might have carried 8,212 more than they had; the vessels from Irish ports were 150, and these were filled to within 3,852 adult passengers. The average passages were - from England 45 days; from Ireland, 45 1/2; from Scotland 41 1/2. The emigration of 1849 shows a considerable increase in the mortality in comparison with that of 1848. The deaths from cholera on board three vessels from Limerick arrived in May - the Lady Peel, the Jane Black and the Jessie - carrying 1,018 passengers, were 103. These on board the Jane, from New Ross, with 372 passengers, were 33. These on board the Sarah from Sligo with 280, were 81. The greatest proportionate mortality occurred on board of vessels from the ports of Newry, Limerick, Dublin, Liverpool and Greenock. Among 851 persons from Newry, the deaths were 61; those among 7,285 from Limerick were, 353; of 2,274 from Dublin, 91 died; of 4,405 from Liverpool, there died 99; of 625 from Greenock, 79 died. The brig "Hannah" from the port of Newry, was lost in the ice on the night of the 29th April. It appears that she sailed with 176 passengers; 14 persons went down with the vessel, and 35 perished subsequently from exposure. The other vessel was the brig, Maria, from Limerick, with 111 passengers, and a crew of 10 seamen. She foundered at sea on the night of the 12th May, in consequence of her coming in contact with sunken ice. Only nine passengers and three of the crew were saved. The total loss by these two disasters amounted therefore to 151 lives. Cathy Joynt Labath Ireland Old News http://www.IrelandOldNews.com/

BALLINA CHRONICLE Ballina, Mayo, Ireland Wednesday, April 3, 1850 THE ARMY The following detachments of the 49th move to Fermoy to be stationed: - The company under Capt. Biggs from Tipperary on the 2d. prox.; the company of Lieut. Beresford from Clogheen on the 2d. arriving same day; the company from Cahir on the 3d. First Lieut. Lord Madden, of the Rifle Brigade, has purchased a Cornetcy in the Blues. Lieut. Col. St. John Quentin, 17th Lancers, is about to exchange with Lieut. Col. Lawrenson unattached formerly of the 17th. The first division of the 9th has arrived in Dublin from Newry. A new and lighter bayonet is being constructed for the Infantry. Sergeant Metcalf, 49th, has published a set of plates on Light Infantry drill, dedicated by permission to his Royal Highness Prince George of Cambridge. The merit of the work is that it conveys, at a glance, the system of light drill, as laid down by Capt. Mitchell, late 60th Rifles. Lord Gough offers to hear the extra expense of continuing the bearskin cap to his gallant regiment the 67th. Lord Lurgan's next move is expected to be a Lieutenancy in the 7th Royal Fusiliers returning from Halifax. Lieut.-General Sir Stephen R. Chapman appointed Colonel Commandent of the Royal Engineers, vice Lt. Gen Durnford, deceased. Lt.-Col. Franks, 10th Foot, has left Mooltan for England, also Brevet Major Kennedy, 18th, from Calcutta. Cornet the Hon. P. Sidney, Royal Horse Guards, Capt. and Brevet Major Hanmer, Inniskilling Dragoons, Capt. D'Aguilar, Grenadier Guards, Lieut. Greathead, 41st, and Captain Whittuck, 83d, sold out of the service on Friday. Cornet and Sub. Lieut. Fitzroy, of the 2d Life Guards, has exchanged to the 41st with the rank of Ensign. Cathy Joynt Labath Ireland Old News http://www.IrelandOldNews.com/

BALLINA CHRONICLE Ballina, Mayo, Ireland Wednesday, April 3, 1850 SERIOUS ACCIDENT - We deeply regret to announce that on yesterday afternoon, as the Rev. Marcus M'Causland, the highly respectable rector of this parish, was returning from visiting the auxiliary workhouse in Castle Gate, and the rev. gentleman was severely injured - his leg having been fractured in two places. He was conveyed on a car to the rectory. - Medical assistance was immediately procured, and we are glad to learn that he is going on as favourably as can be expected. -- King's Co. Chronicle. ~~~~~ DR. LANGLEY - Dr. Langley, having been acquitted of the charge of murdering his wife, was, by directions of the Court, removed to prison, there to remain till the termination of the assizes, but he has not yet been discharged from custody, as he is ill in the hospital of the jail.--Nenagh Guardian. ~~~~~ Mr. Jones, late 18th Royal Irish, has contracted with the Nenagh Guardians for the supply of beef at 1 1/2d. per lb. and mutton at 2d. per lb for six months. ~~~~~ THE CONVICT JOHN O'GRADY It will be seen by the annexed communication that Government has spared the life of John O'Grady, under sentence of execution in the gaol of Limerick, for the murder of his wife and servant girl, at Martinstown: - "Dublin Castle, 29th March, 1850. "Sir - I am directed by the Lord Lieutenant to transmit his Excellency's warrant commuting the sentence of death passed on John O'Grady, prisoner in the gaol of the county of Limerick, to transportation for the term of his natural life. - I have the honour to be, Sir, your obedient servant. "T. N. REDINGTON. "To the High Sheriff county Limerick." When this intelligence was communicated to Mr. O'Grady by the Governor, he evinced no apparent gratification at escaping an ignominious death on the scaffold. ~~~~~ DIABOLICAL OUTRAGE - On the night of Saturday last, or on the morning of Sunday, some miscreant of human shape, set fire to an outhouse at the Four Roads, within six miles of this town, belonging to Mrs. Donlon, of Cloghan Castle, and in which ten heifers, the property of that lady, were being housed, all of whom were utterly consumed, no one being there at the time to give any alarm; and so surely did they go about their business that they placed a quantity of straw outside the door, and then set it on fire least any one should get into their relief. Three tons of hay were also consumed. We have not heard of any reason assigned for this revolting deed. -- Roscommon Messenger. Cathy Joynt Labath Ireland Old News http://www.IrelandOldNews.com/

The Statistics Act, passed in the early 1990s, sets one hundred years as the tariff before census records created since the foundation of the State can be released to the public. This means that the 1926 census will not be released until 1st January 2027. The Council of Irish Genealogical Organisations (CIGO) (http://indigo.ie/~gorry/CIGO.html) holds the view that the 1926, and possibly the 1936, returns should be released early as the data recorded is very brief (compared to what is recorded in modern times) and because a very large number of those recorded in these returns would have been born before the commencement of full of civil registration in Ireland in 1864. Hope this helps, Steven Smyrl MAPGI "Is Mise Gan Ainm" <nospamming@rogers.com> wrote in message news:pNWdnf_hq4qufPneRVn-ig@rogers.com... > Sorry, GKM, All I know is that the 1901 & 1911 returns were progressed for > early promulgation due to the disasters involving previous census returns. > I > don't know what the usual quarantine period is for later ones. > > > "GKM" <gkmcauliff@cox.net> wrote in message > news:0CY8f.12476$gj1.5075@fed1read05... >> >> "Is Mise Gan Ainm" <nospamming@rogers.com> wrote in message >> news:m86dnTh2FbGLcv3eRVn-pQ@rogers.com... >> > Yes, Dennis - It is true that the County Clare Library has the 1901 >> > returns >> > on-line, But I was referring to the question of those for Co. Cork, I >> > should >> > have made that point clear. >> > >> > -- >> > "Is Mise Gan Ainm" >> >> Tusa Gan Ainm: Am I right in saying that Irish census records cannot be >> seen until 100 years later? >> >> GKM >> >> > >

"Trish" <tee.lockers@gmail.com> wrote in message news:dk00sq$9a4$1@domitilla.aioe.org... > Hello all > My site at http://www.loughman.dna.ie which contains among other things > the Dublin City Directory of 1850 and Porter's directory of North county > Dublin 1912 has unfortunately been stolen by someone who is trying to make > money out of links to it at http://mongo.0catch.com/ > > This other site is nothing to do with me, and its links to pornographic > and other sites are not in any way authorised by Trish Loughman, owner of > http://www.loughman.dna.ie > The guy doesn't even have the sense to change the authors name of the page he/she posted. This is part of the source from the 0catch site. <HTML> <HEAD> <TITLE>Some Irish slang</TITLE> <xbasehref="/"> <META NAME="resource-type" CONTENT="document"> <meta http-equiv="author" content="Loughman"> <meta http-equiv="description" content="Irish slang words"> <meta http-equiv="keywords" content="slang, irish"> <meta http-equiv="distribution" content="Global"> John

"Tom Perrett" <tomp@st.net.au> wrote in message news:gbzcfgargnh.ip7d361.pminews@news.st.net.au... > I am puzzled by the claim by the OP, clicking on > > http://www.loughman.dna.ie > > takes you to THAT site and not the other > one mentioned, I went to the other one > > http://mongo.0catch.com/ > > and while I did not see any links to porn > sites, I did see data the same as on the OP's > site, so it maybe that mongo site has lifted > data from the OP's site, but NOT hijacked it her site > per se. > > Tom Trish did not claim that her site was hijacked, she claimed that the contents of her site was stolen, if you look at the 0catch.com site you will see that is the case. John

On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 22:14:55 +0000 (UTC), Dennis Ahern <ahern@world.std.com> wrote: > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > Dennis Ahern | Ireland Newspaper Abstracts > Acton, Massachusetts | http://www.IrelandOldNews.com > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Can I just check something out with you (or anyone else who's familiar with Irish newspapers)? I'm making one last attempt to write up a truly accurate well-sourced account of my 3xg grandfather before circumstances may force me to give up. I want to send it to DNB, New Grove and various institutions to correct a wealth of misinformation. Frederick Nicholls Crouch was English but enjoyed some minor celebrity as a "lecturer on Irish minstrelsy" - that's his primary description on his lithographed portrait of ca1840 in the British Museum. This career seems to have been based on the huge international popularity of the song Kathleen Mavourneen. It was first published by 1837 in England but its success seems to have taken off when it was published by a major London firm a few years later. He seems to have followed it up with other "Irish" songs to cash in on its success. His memoirs (from a music magazine 1887 Boston, Mass) claim briefly that he lectured in England, Ireland Scotland and Wales (early 1840s? - events have been much rearranged, possibly by whoever interviewed him, so it's hard to be sure.) I suspect that he probably never actually visited Ireland in his life but it's hard to prove a negative. He was sufficiently well known at that time for any visit to Ireland to lecture on Irish music to have been publicised or commented on in the local press - I don't know what they'd have made of him locally. I've never found any reference to it. Do you recall ever coming across any reference to him at all in Irish newspapers? Thanks for any help. -- Phil C.

"Jim Roache" wrote: >The word is "hijacked". There is allot of that going on - it is a security problem. [...] Some years ago, a web-page with interactive demonstrations of map projections was copied onto a dutch university site. The university has since revamped its site, and the copied page doesn't seem to appear on the new pages - but they didn't clear their old web pages, so it's still out there (though Google doesn't pick it up), and has a link to it from the original author in case anyone wants to see an early version of the genuine page.

On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 10:18:14 GMT, Trish wrote: > I have contacted the 'abuse' section at 0catch.com asking them to remove > the site but have not yet heard anything back. I have also contacted > Google Ads, as the person who did this appears to have an account with > them. I actually have a fair idea who did this, as my server logs show > the person involved 'stealing' the pages. > > I am a teacher, and I view any site purporting to be by me that links to > pornography very seriously indeed. If there is anyone reading this that > knows someone in either company (0catch or Google), I would be very > grateful for help with this. I think it reflects badly on them both that > they are involved, however unwittingly. I'm not sure how effective the action you've taken will be. The ocatch site will want visitors so anything that is done to ensure the traffic numbers stays up will be welcomed. Google seems to be very indifferent nowadays since they went public. It's the shareholders who have to be pleased. I think any right minded person would take linking an innocent site to a pornographic one very seriously. Can I suggest that you post this problem to alt.pcnews?? There are a lot of people in there who will be able to give you guidance and advice on the best course of action. Don't be put off by the name of the group. It's really a pchelp group which covers all aspects of computers and the internet. Why it has the name it does and why it does what it does is a long story and not really relevant.

Perhaps I did not explain myself. My original site is still there, but they have copied my work from it, including my name in the source code, and presented it as theirs, linking to many many sites, including 'Teen chat rooms' and others of a similar nature. As a teacher working with children, I take this very seriously indeed. Trish -- Sent via Genealogy Newsgroups http://www.genealogynewsgroups.com

<Patscga@aol.com> wrote in message news:141.50d67c0c.3094e73d@aol.com... > > In a message dated 10/29/2005 10:36:24 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > tee.lockers@gmail.com writes: > > I'm sorry that someone did this to you. Thanks. I have had many messages of support. If there is anyone out there knows someone who works for either 0catch.com or Google Ads, I would appreciate their help in stopping this fraud. I am a teacher, and I take any attempt to link my name to sites of a pornographic or dubious nature very seriously indeed. Thank you again. On a genealogy note. I hope to be adding another village to Porter's Directory of North County Dublin 1912 today, and that will ONLY be available on my real site, not that of the porn-peddling fraudsters. -- Trish Dublin, Ireland http://www.loughman.dna.ie

Thank you Charani. I have contacted the 'abuse' section at 0catch.com asking them to remove the site but have not yet heard anything back. I have also contacted Google Ads, as the person who did this appears to have an account with them. I actually have a fair idea who did this, as my server logs show the person involved 'stealing' the pages. I am a teacher, and I view any site purporting to be by me that links to pornography very seriously indeed. If there is anyone reading this that knows someone in either company (0catch or Google), I would be very grateful for help with this. I think it reflects badly on them both that they are involved, however unwittingly. Trish Dublin, Ireland -- Sent via Genealogy Newsgroups http://www.genealogynewsgroups.com

Sorry, GKM, All I know is that the 1901 & 1911 returns were progressed for early promulgation due to the disasters involving previous census returns. I don't know what the usual quarantine period is for later ones. "GKM" <gkmcauliff@cox.net> wrote in message news:0CY8f.12476$gj1.5075@fed1read05... > > "Is Mise Gan Ainm" <nospamming@rogers.com> wrote in message > news:m86dnTh2FbGLcv3eRVn-pQ@rogers.com... > > Yes, Dennis - It is true that the County Clare Library has the 1901 > > returns > > on-line, But I was referring to the question of those for Co. Cork, I > > should > > have made that point clear. > > > > -- > > "Is Mise Gan Ainm" > > Tusa Gan Ainm: Am I right in saying that Irish census records cannot be > seen until 100 years later? > > GKM > >

On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 15:27:31 +0100, Trish wrote: > Hello all > My site at http://www.loughman.dna.ie which contains among other things the > Dublin City Directory of 1850 and Porter's directory of North county Dublin > 1912 has unfortunately been stolen by someone who is trying to make money > out of links to it at http://mongo.0catch.xxx/ > > This other site is nothing to do with me, and its links to pornographic and > other sites are not in any way authorised by Trish Loughman, owner of > http://www.loughman.dna.ie > > Mine has always been a free to access site and is totally non-profit-making. > Apologies to anyone who has been inconvenienced or offended by these > fraudsters. That's a horrible thing to have happened. I'm very sorry for you. There must be something you can do to retrieve your site. Have a word with your hosting company to see what they can suggest. Also speak to the police. They should have a specialist internet and anti porn division. I would guess that your site's been "mirrored" on the other one but some action should be able to be taken to stop it.