Colm Hasson <c01m@hasson1.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote: : Perhaps Denis Ahern is not aware that many Americans read : soc.genealogy.ireland - and those Hassons were born and raised there. : However if he suggests a more appropriate site for my message I'll be glad : to use it. http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=an&p=surnames.hasson would be a good place to start. Also try a New York mailing list from those listed at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/NY/ -dja [an American who reads soc.genealogy.ireland]

Cain't unnerstan why you'd think it is OT! My ancestors are from Belfast, so it will now be easier for me to learn more about their origins. After all, when you speak the language it is easier to communicate with the natives! Henry French BROWNLEE Searching for BROWNLEE, FRENCH, and ORR in Belfast as well as CONNELL and DUNN(E) in the south. "toedipper" <send_rubbish_here734@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:2h8ef.16741$fe6.1025@newsfe2-win.ntli.net... > A scream, needs sound. > > http://www.pocketpcheaven.com/belfastish.php

Two points Joe: As my message states; the people I wish to hear from/about were born in Manhattan - their father was Irish. I am not Colm Hasson who lives at 2 Whitehill Muff Donegal. Colm "Joe Pessarra" <joepessarraspam@spamcox.net> wrote in message news:514ef.5271$om5.2618@dukeread04... > > "Dennis Ahern" <ahern@world.std.com> wrote in message > news:dlaa84$nrq$1@pcls4.std.com... >> Colm Hasson <c01m@hasson1.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote: >> : I would like to hear from anyone with information on Margaret, James, >> : Dorothy and Morris Hasson and their descendants. >> >> : They were born in Manhattan about 1906 to 1910. >> >> I'm not sure what this has to do with soc.genealogy.ireland but here are >> some New York links that may be of some use. > > (Rest of message snipped.) > > All very good links that should be of some help. > > Ellis Island records at http://www.ellisisland.org/ show 355 Hasson > listings > coming variously from Ireland, Italy, England, Greece, India, Turkey, > Syria, > Scotland, Brazil, and other countries. > > There are 42 listings that show to be of Irish ethnicity. Maybe Colm has > knowledge that his particular Hassons came from Ireland. Ireland phone > directory on the Net at > http://www.infobel.com/teldir/result.asp?url=http://mmm.eircom.ie/phonebook/ > shows a Colm Hasson living at 2 Whitehill Muff Donegal. > > It would help if more information was given by Colm, such as names of > persons entering the US, about when they entered, etc. > > Joe in Georgetown, Texas, USA > >

"Dennis Ahern" <ahern@world.std.com> wrote in message news:dlaa84$nrq$1@pcls4.std.com... > Colm Hasson <c01m@hasson1.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote: > : I would like to hear from anyone with information on Margaret, James, > : Dorothy and Morris Hasson and their descendants. > > : They were born in Manhattan about 1906 to 1910. > > I'm not sure what this has to do with soc.genealogy.ireland but here are > some New York links that may be of some use. Perhaps Denis Ahern is not aware that many Americans read soc.genealogy.ireland - and those Hassons were born and raised there. However if he suggests a more appropriate site for my message I'll be glad to use it. Colm > > http://www.nypl.org/research/chss/lhg/genea.html > Genealogy and History Division of the New York Public Library > > http://www.archives.nysed.gov/a/researchroom/rr_family_instate-natural.shtml > New York State Archives Naturalization and Immigration Records > > http://www.archives.nysed.gov/holding/fact/vital.htm > Vital Records for New York state > > http://www.nygbs.org/info/articles/emigrantbank.html > Emigrant Savings Bank of New York > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nyirish/research.html > The Irish in 19th Century New York City > > http://www.ci.nyc.ny.us/html/doh/html/vr/vr.html > New York City, Department of Health, > Bureau of Vital Records > > http://www.ci.nyc.ny.us/html/doris/html/index.html > Municipal Archives of the City of New York > > http://www.irishnyhistory.com/ > New York Irish History Roundtable > > http://www.ellisisland.org/ > Ellis Island, New York City > > http://germanroots.home.att.net/ellisisland/ > Immigrant Processing Centers for New York City > > http://www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/Directory/ > New York Directories > > http://www.buffalonet.org/army/bigs.htm > Buffalo Irish Genealogical Society > > http://www.italiangen.org/NYCDeath.stm > New York City Death Index 1891-1911 > > http://www.italiangen.org/southern.stm > Southern District Court of NY Naturalizations > > http://www.genealogytoday.com/genealogy/states/new_york.html > New York State Genealogy Links

A scream, needs sound. http://www.pocketpcheaven.com/belfastish.php

"Colm Hasson" <c01m@hasson1.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:dlb8ko$p82$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk... > Two points Joe: > > As my message states; the people I wish to hear from/about were born in > Manhattan - their father was Irish. > > I am not Colm Hasson who lives at 2 Whitehill Muff Donegal. > > Colm Colm, Yes, I understood that those people you spoke of were born in the US. But, as I asked in my last message, can you give us more information, such as the name of the father, year of birth, when he arrived in the US, where his home in Ireland was, etc. This will give us something more to work with. I was unable to find in any family listing, the combination of names you gave in the censuses that I reviewed. Also did the father come directly to the US, or maybe through Canada, as my wife's ancestors did? And pardon my confusion of you with the other Colm Hasson. ;) And I agree with you that many Americans read soc.genealogy.ireland, and are happy to try and assist a genealogy searcher from Ireland. The sources that Denis gave you are quite excellent, and I hope you can find something there. You probably do not need to spend much time on the Italian and German sources, since your Hasson is from Ireland. ;) I will continue to do some searching for you, and let you know what I find. But, if you do have some more information you can share on the father and/or mother of the children, that would be helpful. Good luck. Joe in Texas

Colm Hasson <c01m@hasson1.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote: : I would like to hear from anyone with information on Margaret, James, : Dorothy and Morris Hasson and their descendants. : They were born in Manhattan about 1906 to 1910. I'm not sure what this has to do with soc.genealogy.ireland but here are some New York links that may be of some use. http://www.nypl.org/research/chss/lhg/genea.html Genealogy and History Division of the New York Public Library http://www.archives.nysed.gov/a/researchroom/rr_family_instate-natural.shtml New York State Archives Naturalization and Immigration Records http://www.archives.nysed.gov/holding/fact/vital.htm Vital Records for New York state http://www.nygbs.org/info/articles/emigrantbank.html Emigrant Savings Bank of New York http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nyirish/research.html The Irish in 19th Century New York City http://www.ci.nyc.ny.us/html/doh/html/vr/vr.html New York City, Department of Health, Bureau of Vital Records http://www.ci.nyc.ny.us/html/doris/html/index.html Municipal Archives of the City of New York http://www.irishnyhistory.com/ New York Irish History Roundtable http://www.ellisisland.org/ Ellis Island, New York City http://germanroots.home.att.net/ellisisland/ Immigrant Processing Centers for New York City http://www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/Directory/ New York Directories http://www.buffalonet.org/army/bigs.htm Buffalo Irish Genealogical Society http://www.italiangen.org/NYCDeath.stm New York City Death Index 1891-1911 http://www.italiangen.org/southern.stm Southern District Court of NY Naturalizations http://www.genealogytoday.com/genealogy/states/new_york.html New York State Genealogy Links

"Dennis Ahern" <ahern@world.std.com> wrote in message news:dlaa84$nrq$1@pcls4.std.com... > Colm Hasson <c01m@hasson1.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote: > : I would like to hear from anyone with information on Margaret, James, > : Dorothy and Morris Hasson and their descendants. > > : They were born in Manhattan about 1906 to 1910. > > I'm not sure what this has to do with soc.genealogy.ireland but here are > some New York links that may be of some use. (Rest of message snipped.) All very good links that should be of some help. Ellis Island records at http://www.ellisisland.org/ show 355 Hasson listings coming variously from Ireland, Italy, England, Greece, India, Turkey, Syria, Scotland, Brazil, and other countries. There are 42 listings that show to be of Irish ethnicity. Maybe Colm has knowledge that his particular Hassons came from Ireland. Ireland phone directory on the Net at http://www.infobel.com/teldir/result.asp?url=http://mmm.eircom.ie/phonebook/ shows a Colm Hasson living at 2 Whitehill Muff Donegal. It would help if more information was given by Colm, such as names of persons entering the US, about when they entered, etc. Joe in Georgetown, Texas, USA

Hi Dennis & List Thanks for that, I'll give it a go Barb ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Ahern" <ahern@world.std.com> To: <GENIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 11:53 PM Subject: Re: Help please MCCANN Marriage > "Barbara Cunningham" <wisard@tpg.com.au> wrote: > > : Can you please help me with a suggestion, is there anywhere online, i > can > : search to find the index to get a marriage certificate. > > Not online, but you can send away for microfilm index of marriages in > Ireland for the years 1958 and '59 at an LDS (Mormon) Library near you and > then if you find a groom and a bride that point to the same quarter and > registrar's district, order a cert from the General Register Office. > > http://www.nationalarchives.ie/genealogy/birthsmarrdeaths.html > Records of Irish Births, Marriages, and Deaths > > http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/search/rg/guide/ > all_t3_resmeth_-_how_do_i_begin.asp [cut and paste to one url] > How to use LDS Family History Centers > > http://www.genfindit.com/imarrs.htm > LDS Film Numbers for Index to Irish civil marriage records > > http://www.genfindit.com > Online Irish Vital Records Ordering Service > > http://www.geocities.com/stassam.geo/dublin.html > Lookup Service for Records in Dublin > > http://homepage.eircom.net/~seanjmurphy/gro/ > Guide to the General Register Office > > http://www.groireland.ie/ > General Register Office (Republic of Ireland) > Births, Marriages and Deaths for 32 counties 1864-1922 > Republic of Ireland only 1922-present > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.0/167 - Release Date: 11/11/2005 > >

Hi List I forgot to mention. I live in Australia. Thanks to anyone who can come up with a suggestion for me. Barb ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Cunningham" <wisard@tpg.com.au> To: <GENIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 12:38 PM Subject: Help please MCCANN Marriage > Hi List > > Can you please help me with a suggestion, is there anywhere online, i can > search to find the index to get a marriage certificate. > > I'm trying to find the marriage of Joseph Benedict McCann and Josephine > Adolus Shortall, i believe they were married in about October 1958 or > 1959. > > I really want to buy a copy of the marriage certificate, but it's > difficult not being able to find an index that lists it. > > I tried 1837 on line but, it doesn't cover Ireland. > > The elder of the two children from this marriage was born at Daisy Hill > Hospital in Newry, but the family i believe lived in Dundalk. > > Any suggestions would be greatfully appreciated > > Thanks > > Barb > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.0/167 - Release Date: 11/11/2005 > >

I would like to hear from anyone with information on Margaret, James, Dorothy and Morris Hasson and their descendants. They were born in Manhattan about 1906 to 1910. Colm Hasson

Hello, I have just joined this group. My wife and I have been researching her Irish family background, and we have found out quite a lot, but we need some help. I hope that I have come to the right place. We know that her grandfather, Daniel P. Cronin emigrated with siblings and parents, from Millstreet parish, County Cork in 1863. They apparently traveled on the steamship The Great Eastern, landing in New York. Daniel's parents, my wife's great grandparents were John Cronin and Johanna Cronin ( nee Hickey, of the same parish). They eventually settled in Ohio. We have now found the cemetery that they are in, in Ohio, USA. We are hoping that you can help us locate passenger lists for the ship, so that we can verify the information that we have so far, and also we are hoping that you can help us find records in Ireland for their parish. We traveled to Ireland a year ago, but found that we hadn't yet done enough research to allow us to find family history. Now we have quite a bit and we look forward to going back. We would love to visit the old Cronin Homestead in County Cork, Millstreet Parish, but we will need help to get that far. We would also like to visit cemeteries in County Cork where relatives rest in peace. Our son was quite moved, last year when we found old "Cronin" tombstones, but it will be even more meaningful when we find some that are truly relatives. Any help or ideas would be most welcome, and I thank you in advance. Yours Sincerely, Dr. Lorie Gold Mrs. Phyllis Gold ( nee Cronin)

"Barbara Cunningham" <wisard@tpg.com.au> wrote: : Can you please help me with a suggestion, is there anywhere online, i can : search to find the index to get a marriage certificate. Not online, but you can send away for microfilm index of marriages in Ireland for the years 1958 and '59 at an LDS (Mormon) Library near you and then if you find a groom and a bride that point to the same quarter and registrar's district, order a cert from the General Register Office. http://www.nationalarchives.ie/genealogy/birthsmarrdeaths.html Records of Irish Births, Marriages, and Deaths http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/search/rg/guide/ all_t3_resmeth_-_how_do_i_begin.asp [cut and paste to one url] How to use LDS Family History Centers http://www.genfindit.com/imarrs.htm LDS Film Numbers for Index to Irish civil marriage records http://www.genfindit.com Online Irish Vital Records Ordering Service http://www.geocities.com/stassam.geo/dublin.html Lookup Service for Records in Dublin http://homepage.eircom.net/~seanjmurphy/gro/ Guide to the General Register Office http://www.groireland.ie/ General Register Office (Republic of Ireland) Births, Marriages and Deaths for 32 counties 1864-1922 Republic of Ireland only 1922-present

Hi List Can you please help me with a suggestion, is there anywhere online, i can search to find the index to get a marriage certificate. I'm trying to find the marriage of Joseph Benedict McCann and Josephine Adolus Shortall, i believe they were married in about October 1958 or 1959. I really want to buy a copy of the marriage certificate, but it's difficult not being able to find an index that lists it. I tried 1837 on line but, it doesn't cover Ireland. The elder of the two children from this marriage was born at Daisy Hill Hospital in Newry, but the family i believe lived in Dundalk. Any suggestions would be greatfully appreciated Thanks Barb

Hi My name is Barbara Cunningham I am trying to trace the family of a friend of mine. Joseph Benedict MCCANN Jnr was born on 13th Feb 1959 to Joseph MCCANN senior and his wife Josephine Shortall at the Daisy Hill Hospital in Dundalk. Before Joe's sister Catherine was born the parents went there separate ways. I would love to hear from anyone who can shed a little light on Joe's family. Joe and his mother and sister came to Australia in the 1970's Regards Barb

I apologize for sending duplicates of some parts of the news article "Manchester Tragedy". It just took several hours for parts of the articles to come through the list (at least to my mailbox) and I got impatient and resent the ones I didn't happen to see right away. I also broke up the original part 3 since I thought it might be too large to make it to the list. Again, sorry for the dups. I didn't mean to clog up any mailboxes. Cathy

You thought or can you refer to me an expert? any books, any articles, any reports on the participating units in the Irish Rebellion of 1798? Michael

From The Cork Examiner, 22 August 1878 - QUEENSTOWN PETTY SESSIONS.--At these sessions held yesterday, before Messrs W. E. Gumbleton, chairman, J. N. Beamish, and W. R. Starkie, R.M. Michael Shea was again brought up for biting the lip off Michael Ahern, but was again remanded, as the injured man was too unwell to appear. Mary Driscoll sued Joseph Williams for wages due to her. A decree for the amount claimed, viz., 6s 8d was given. The other cases at the court were ordinary police prosecutions against persons for drunkenness. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dennis Ahern | Ireland Newspaper Abstracts Acton, Massachusetts | http://www.IrelandOldNews.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Irish Catholic Chronicle And People's News of the Week Dublin, Ireland Saturday, 30 November 1867 NIGHT - THE STREETS About ten o'clock large crowds began to gather in the streets immediately in the neighbourhood of the scaffold, but the outer barrier arrested all further progress, and then these Englishmen sat down. The peculiar characteristic of the nation was fully displayed by the lively disputes concerning the purchase of hot potatoes which were being cooked in enormous quantities by machines resembling fire-engines. Around these were squatted those chattering, swearing, obscene; but eating assemblages to be found nowhere but in England. Wrangles and jokes were settled and laughed at, and politics and Fenianism warmly and energetically discussed. Cans of beer and lumps of cheese; hot potatoes and squares of bacon; steaming pies and odorous onions- hodge-podges of marvellous and heterogeneous confusion were discussed and consumed with a gusto that only the eve of an execution can bring to the enlightened Englishman. Females sat in these gatherings, and joined in these disgusting festivals as confidently as if that were the scene for woman. Young lads and girls sported in high glee in front of the glaring gas jet that told of the beer-cellar and youthful lips rang out the ready oath that spoke the culture of degraded parents. A strong contrast was found in the stolid, stupid, besotted mass that leaned against the barricade; it stirred not, breathed not, spoke not- but patiently awaited the chance of improving their position, and with unruffled and bovine quiet, stayed out the weary night to witness the strangulation of three human beings. Just before the barricade a wall of policemen prevented the possibility of entrance. Those who had tickets forced a difficult way through the crowd that hoarsely shouted in reckless blasphemy, or roared a line of drunken song, or warmly disputed the possession of food, or hotly quarrelled for the right to drink, and were then blocked by that immovable barrier of stolid savages through whose compact gathering passage was impossible. It was pleasant - if one could be pleasant then - to know that "the mere Irish" were not of these brawlers, that the never failing charge of riotous uproar must this night be laid to the account of the uncouth sons of Lancashire. I learned on inquiry that the Catholic clergy had inculcated peace and moderation to their people and especially requested them to absent themselves from Salford and its neighbourhood during the night of the execution. This commendable injunction was strictly obeyed and there was no Irish element in the motley crew whose ugly shadow was thrown in grotesque outline across the feebly lighted streets. At last I made my way to the Albert Hotel, a house standing almost fifty yards from the scaffold on the opposite street. I had learned that 'the fourth estate,' was there and there only; and soon I found myself in presence of some fifty press-men from every port of the United Kingdom. At intervals during the night we dropped out in couples to see the streets, but there was a general cluster when a Manchester gentleman brought in a copy of an anonymous letter which had been received by Calcraft, with the pithily illiterate rejoinder of that worthy man! - "If you hang any of the gentlemen condemned to death at the New Bailey Prison, it will be worse for you; you will not survive afterwards." Calcraft immediately sent the note to the visiting justices of the jails, with this comment - " I have received the enclosed letter. It seems a serious job. I hope you will look after it that I shall get home safe again." It seems that the executioner was in some say worried; and in truth if preparation could ease his mind, he must have been content. About twelve o'clock the police entered every house, and took the name and address of all persons who did not permanently reside therein. It is rather lucky Mr. Calcraft was not shot, or else we might all have been put on trial on the capital charge in that "constructive" spirit which marks the administration of recent law. About two o'clock the fog was dense and bitterly cold. An hour later; vocalism became popular, and the ringing tones of "John Brown" from a hundred throats pierced the thick "blanket" of the night." And thus, in eating, and drinking, and singing, and dancing ,and talking, and swearing, and marching, did these Englishmen hail the morn whose first light heralded coming and certain death to three men hard-by. ...to be continued... Cathy Joynt Labath Ireland Old News http://www.IrelandOldNews.com/

...continued... Irish Catholic Chronicle And People's News of the Week Dublin, Ireland Saturday, 30 November 1867 NIGHT - THE STREETS There is little to add respecting the prison life of the condemned. Clinging to hope at first, they believed for some days after sentence was passed that they would not be hanged. The assurances which they received from without, however, dispelled this feeling a few days ago, and since Wednesday the men have been fully resigned to their fate. The parting interviews of Allen and Larkin with their friends took place on Friday; and after their final severance from earthly ties, the doomed men devoted themselves with increased fervour to their religious duties. They were locked up at the usual hour - about half-past six o'clock. Strange as it may appear; the three men, standing on the brink of the grave, about to suffer an ignominious death, slept as soundly as had been their wont. At a quarter to five o'clock on Saturday morning, Mr. Holt, the warder in charge, went to their cells and awoke them. The priests in attendance, the Rev. Canon Cantwell and the Rev. Fathers Quick and Gadd, celebrated mass at half-past five, and administered the holy communion. After partaking of the sacred rite, the convicts spent their time in prayer until nearly seven o'clock, when they breakfasted. The last preparations were then begun. At twelve minutes to eight o'clock, the executioner and his assistant, Armstrong, were introduced into the cell in which the convicts were placed, and the process of pinioning their arms was gone through. The priests stood by the side of the unhappy men, administering the consolations of religion, and exhorting them to firmness to meet the last dread ordeal. The convicts at this time manifested a remarkable fortitude. Not one of them flinched in the least. They had severally expressed an intention to address the crowd from the scaffold, but at the urgent entreaty of the priests they abandoned that intention. At a quarter to eight o'clock the interior court of the gaol presented a strange and striking spectacle. Behind the wall in New Bailey-street was erected the long staircase leading to the scaffold, and by the side were platforms for the tise of the military. The fog was so dense that objects could be but faintly distinguished at a distance of thirty yards. Suddenly the worlds of military command were heard and a company of the 72nd Highlanders marched round the Roundhouse and took up a position in line of the foot of the staircase. Simultaneously small detachments of the same regiment ascended to the platform, and crouched there, with their loaded rifles slightly projecting over the prison wall. At almost the same moment the heads of a line of soldiers arose above the parapet of the railway viaduct. A line of warders was formed in the gaol court. The sentries on duty ceased their walk; magistrates and reporters stood aside, and a dead silence prevailed for a few moments, as a signal was given from the corner of the Roundhouse. At three minutes past eight o'clock the solemn voice of a minister repeating the litany of the Roman Catholic Church was heard; and the head of the procession became visible through a thick fog, about thirty yards from the foot of the staircase. The Rev. Cantwell walked first, by the side of Allen. The convict was deadly pale; his eyes wandered alternately from the priest to the individuals standing round and then he uplifted his gaze in a vain endeavour to pierce the dense canopy which hung above him. He walked with a tolerably steady step, and uttered the response, "Lord, have mercy upon us." in a firm voice. As he ascended the staircase he seemed to summon all his courage, and he succeeded so far as to be able to confront the crowd with an unshrinking countenance. Next to him came Larkin, in whose appearance confinement and anxiety of mind had wrought a striking change. He walked with difficulty and required the support of the warders as he mounted the staircase. He seemed to join mechanically in the responses; and as he neared the head of the stirs he gave one hasty glance at the black beams overhead and seemed about to faint. Gould was the last, and he met hi fate firmly. Joining in the responses with a steady voice, and keeping his eyes upward, after one glance at the group assembled below, he mounted the steps without hesitation and took his place upon the drop. ...to be continued... Cathy Joynt Labath Ireland Old News http://www.IrelandOldNews.com/