My GG Grandfather, Benjamin Witherhead came from Glenwherry with his wife [Mary (Millikin) Witherhead] and 5 children around 1818. They settled in upstate New York [Oswegatchie: near the present-day Ogdensburg] It seems clear that Benjamin had at least one brother, who stayed in Antrim. I'd like to (1) identify Witherhead family members in Antrim and (2) determine exactly how/when the Witherheads moved from Glenwherry to Oswegatchie. On theory is that they went via Glascow, Nova Scotia, Montreal/Quebec.

See: http://www.mayo-ireland.ie/Geneal/Sligo.htm Sligo Family Heritage Centre computerizing parish records Provides search service for a fee See http://tiara.ie/results.htm for customer comments http://scripts.ireland.com/ancestor/browse/counties/connacht/index_sl.htm Sligo sources for genealogy http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlsli/index.html County Sligo GenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~fianna/county/sligo.html County Sligo Fianna Page http://www.familia.org.uk/services/eire/sligo.html County Sligo Library Family History Resources

[Links copied from the contributions of others to another group] http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspaper/0,,2765-1986072,00.html 'Geneticists have identified Ireland's most successful alpha male. As many as one in 12 Irish men could be descended from Niall of the Nine Hostages, a 5th-century warlord, according to research conducted at Trinity College Dublin' http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/AJHG/journal/issues/v78n2/43032/brief/4 3032.abstract.html 'Seventeen-marker simple tandem repeat genetic analysis of Irish Y chromosomes reveals a previously unnoted modal haplotype that peaks in frequency in the northwestern part of the island. It shows a significant association with surnames purported to have descended from the most important and enduring dynasty of early medieval Ireland, the Uí Néill. This suggests that such phylogenetic predominance is a biological record of past hegemony and supports the veracity of semimythological early genealogies. The fact that about one in five males sampled in northwestern Ireland is likely a patrilineal descendent of a single early medieval ancestor is a powerful illustration of the potential link between prolificacy and power and of how Y-chromosome phylogeography can be influenced by social selection' -- SIABAIR (Old Irish) /shabba/ 'ghost, 'phantom', 'spectre'

<Robert.Judge@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1137294701.406862.215540@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >I have just received the Civil War record of my second great > grandfather, Patrick Hoy (later changed to Hoey), from the U.S. > National Archives. The handwritten record is quite legible and it lists > him as from a town in Ireland that appears to be be spelled > "Cooldrummon". I have been told by another Hoy/Hoey researcher that > Sligo is a likely location. > > He was probably born between 1833 and 1835. I don't know when he left > Ireland but he is listed in Willimantic, CT on November 23, 1861, when > he enlisted. > > A Google search for "Cooldrummon" does not really produce anything. Was > there such a place in Sligo in the 1830's? I will appreciate advice. > It was in the civil parish of Drumcliff, Co Sligo. The Catholic baptismal records for Drumcliff start in 1841 and in 1865 for marriages. Brian

Can someone clarify where Mullinahinch is. In an army record it states John Quinton was born in Mullinahinch, Tyrone. But I've just googled the place and it says a different county. Can someone help?

See www.seanruad.com www.ulsterancestry.com Townland AKA Acres County Barony Civil Parish PLU Province Mullanahinch 205 Fermanagh Clankelly Clones Clones Ulster Mullynahinch 139 Monaghan Monaghan Kilmore Monaghan Ulster So it seems there are 2 townlands with very similar names in Fermanagh and Monaghan, both of which counties adjoin Tyrone. John "MichelleWoltman" <MichelleWoltman@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message news:RnEyf.15219$vH5.804810@news.xtra.co.nz... > Can someone clarify where Mullinahinch is. In an army record it states John > Quinton was born in Mullinahinch, Tyrone. But I've just googled the place > and it says a different county. Can someone help? > >

From The Times, London, 8 July 1910 - THE LIMERICK MURDER. At Limerick Assizes yesterday Hannah Ahern, who was found Guilty of the murder of her infant child, was sentenced to death by Mr. Justice Boyd, who stated that he had forwarded the jury's recommendation to mercy to the proper quarter. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dennis Ahern | The Ahern Family Genealogy Website Acton, Massachusetts | http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~aherns/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

I have indexed the names of the Immediate Lessors and Occupiers as listed in the Griffiths Primary Valuation for Camlin Civil Parish, Co. Antrim The lists can be accessed by clicking the link: http://www.fromireland.net/griffiths/antim/camlin.htm Jane __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

John P. DuLong wrote: > Does anyone on this forum know what the canonical age for ordination as > a deacon and a priest would be for someone in the Anglican Church of > Ireland in the seventeenth century? My wife's ancestor, the Most Rev. > Dr. John Vesey, Archbishop of Tuam (1738-1716), was ordained deacon and > priest before he reached the canonical age. I am trying to figure out > when this would be. I find hints using Google that it was 23, but I > would like to see a more solid reference for this fact. Your assistance > is appreciated, thank you. > > JP Thanks to Rev. Corydon Randall and his friend the Rev. Dr. Gregory Elder, I have learned that the canonical age for ordination was 23 year old for a deacon and 24 years for a priest. This is according to the 1662 Book of Common Prayer (see http://www.eskimo.com/~lhowell/bcp1662/ordinal/index.html). Dr. Elder further informed me that a person could be ordained earlier if "he have a Faculty." A faculty was a special license from the diocesan Chancellor allowing for an exception to canon law. This must have been the case with my wife's ancestor. Just thought I would share the answer with the group in case anyone in the future has the same question. JP

I have just received the Civil War record of my second great grandfather, Patrick Hoy (later changed to Hoey), from the U.S. National Archives. The handwritten record is quite legible and it lists him as from a town in Ireland that appears to be be spelled "Cooldrummon". I have been told by another Hoy/Hoey researcher that Sligo is a likely location. He was probably born between 1833 and 1835. I don't know when he left Ireland but he is listed in Willimantic, CT on November 23, 1861, when he enlisted. A Google search for "Cooldrummon" does not really produce anything. Was there such a place in Sligo in the 1830's? I will appreciate advice.

Meilleurs Voeux 2006 et succès dans vos recherches.

David J Grimshaw <Grimason_nz@yahoo.co.nz> wrote: : GKM wrote: :> I think one may search for marriage data for Ireland at LDS libraries. But :> is it possible on the internet? In the Republic or in Northern Ireland? :> : I ma not aware of any Birth, Marriage or Death Index's online for Ireland. : It is possible that these will go on line but as to when your guess is : as good as mine. : So for you it is off down to the nearest LDS FHC and search those micro : fiche like every one else. http://www.genfindit.com/imarrs.htm suggests these films only go up to 1921. For a post-1950 marriage record you may have to contact the GRO. -dja

TREES wrote: > Looking for info on Grennan's who would have migrated to Angus Scotland mid > to late 1800's > gg grandfather Bernard Grennan married in Dundee was probably born aft 1881 > yhank you > > Hi, Have you been to Scotlands people and searched for your GRENNAN family? If you have then you ought to have other siblings of Bernard's and the birth records will tell you when and where the parents married. You will have found death records as well plus there are the census records. Once you have established when the parents married you will then need to look at the Irish RG Index's of Birth, Marriage and Deaths these will take you back to 1864 in most cases pre that you will need parish records and these you need luck with. Happy hunting.

I have recently started a new website called www.irelandfailte.com and I have become interested in creating a section devoted to the Irish Diaspora, especially to the U.S.in the nineteenth and early twentieth centurties. I would be grateful to anyone who could send me the text or, indeed, readable .jpgs of original letters to and from Ireland and America. If interest is great enough I would be delighted to start a section devoted to the human interest stories behind the bare facts of our ancestors emigration from Ireland. I would be pleased to fully credit all contributions - all ideas and messages are welcome. I hope to hear from ye all either through this group or by emailing me direct at niallmoore1@eircom.net Niall

I have indexed the names of the Immediate Lessors and Occupiers as listed in the Griffiths Primary Valuation for Dunbell Civil Parish, Co. Kilkenny The lists can be accessed by clicking the link: http://www.from-ireland.net/griffiths/kilk/dunbell.htm Jane Griffiths Kilkenny Index http://www.from-ireland.net/griffiths/kerkilkgriff.htm#2 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

GKM wrote: > I think one may search for marriage data for Ireland at LDS libraries. But > is it possible on the internet? In the Republic or in Northern Ireland? > > GKM > > > Hi GKM, I ma not aware of any Birth, Marriage or Death Index's online for Ireland. It is possible that these will go on line but as to when your guess is as good as mine. So for you it is off down to the nearest LDS FHC and search those micro fiche like every one else.

Thanks for the links Joe. I am trying to verify the addresses I found at the the phone book link. For sum reason the emails would not work? Mike in Ohio Joe Pessarra wrote: > "Michael Kenefick" <kenefick@copper.net> wrote in message > news:43C1CAA6.9090408@copper.net... > >>Hello Gang, >> >>I am looking to knock down some brick walls. My 3rd GGF Thomas Kenefick >>appears to have never left Ireland. > > > There are two Kenefick email addresses in Ireland at > http://www.esearch.ie/home.jsp > > Ireland phone directory on the Net at http://159.134.203.172/search.asp has > about 30 Kenefick listings. > > Contact with some of these might be of help to you. Good luck. > Joe in Texas > joepessarraspam @ spamcox.net

I think one may search for marriage data for Ireland at LDS libraries. But is it possible on the internet? In the Republic or in Northern Ireland? GKM

In soc.genealogy.ireland Reggin <regvolk@silk.net> wrote: : Please advise on how to get a copy of the specific notice indicated. It depends on what it is. Some are on the IrelandOldNews.com website. Some may be in the possession of volunteer indexers. Some are online at other websites. Some you may have to find on microfilm, or at the National Library in Dublin, or some similar source. Send me an email that includes the index entry in question and I will try to answer. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dennis Ahern | Irish Death Notice Database ahern@world.std.com | http://www.irelandoldnews.com/obits/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

From The Cork Examiner, 3 June 1879 - ROBBERY AT THE MALLOW CATHOLIC CHURCH.--On Friday, during the day one of the St. Vincent de Paul boxes in the Mallow Catholic Church was forced open by some person or persons as yet unknown, and whatever monies were in it were abstracted. It is to be regretted that this is not the first time such robberies were committed in the Mallow Church, and it is hoped that the guilty party will be made amenable for this sacrilegeous and most wanton act.--Mallow Correspondent. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dennis Ahern | Ireland Newspaper Abstracts Acton, Massachusetts | http://www.IrelandOldNews.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -