On 25 Jan 2006 22:15:50 -0800, Mamie wrote: > But why abbreviate John as it is only one letter more than Jno? > Respectfully, that doesn't seem to make much sense... I quite agree with you, it doesn't make sense to delete one letter and transpose two others, but that is the way it's done.
the answer is : because in ' Latin ' it is written Jno , and it was carried over like that when using ' latin ' was abandoned , Phil ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mamie" <gothic@acd.net> To: <GENIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 10:15 PM Subject: Re: Abbreviation "Jno." > > Charani wrote: > > > > > Jno was the standard abbreviation for John. > > But why abbreviate John as it is only one letter more than Jno? > Respectfully, that doesn't seem to make much sense... >
Charani wrote: > > Jno was the standard abbreviation for John. But why abbreviate John as it is only one letter more than Jno? Respectfully, that doesn't seem to make much sense...
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On 23 Jan 2006 11:47:35 -0800, Vip Aleonar (Philippines) wrote: > I was searching for the surname Tegley and came across a ship's > manifest of passengers from Rotterdam arriving as immigrants in > Philadelphia October 1727. One of the passengers was a Jno. Tegley. > Since presumably he was Dutch, Jno. couldn't have been a John or > Jonathan, could he? Jno was the standard abbreviation for John. Just because the ship left from Rotterdam, doesn't mean that all the passengers were Dutch.
On 24 Jan 2006 00:04:22 -0800, Forever Irish wrote: > I'm very sorry but I am not a spammer. Would I be talking to you now if > I was. You're obivously not Irish I you are that grumpy. Slan First rule of spammers: Spammers lie. The advert was posted from the spammer's paradise. Verdict: spam
>From The American Citizen [Lowell, MA], 13 April 1883 - Died at the Age of 105 William Burke died at his residence, 136 Broadway, Friday evening, at the remarkable age of 105. Mr. Burke was born in county Galway, Ireland, of stock that was celebrated for its longevity. He married late in life and for many years was in charge of a landed property in Ornmore, near the city of Galway. Several of his sons came to this country, and the old gentleman when nearly 90 years of age concluded to follow them and experience the privileges of the new world. He purchased a farm on the Lawrence Road, where he remained until a short time ago, when he left it in charge of a daughter and her husband and came to Lowell. He retained his faculties to the last, and could see and hear as well as men who were forty years younger. He did the chores around the house and was active until three days ago, when he suddenly became very ill. He leaves four sons and two daughters, the youngest of whom is 20 years of age. Deceased was a man of irreproachable character, and possessed the respect of a large circle of friends. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dennis Ahern | Middlesex County Massachusetts Newspaper Abstracts Acton, Massachusetts | http://www.rootsweb.com/~mamidnws/index.html - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
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Nah, that was P. T. Barnum. Henry Louisiana "carrigman" <carrigman@deathtospammershotmail.com> wrote in message news:dr5pcp$s9h$1@reader01.news.esat.net... > Anyhow, he's probably operating on the truth of WC Fields' dictum: "There's > a sucker born every minute". > > Regards, > > John, > Ireland.
Forever Irish wrote: > When he opened the gift I gave him for his 75 birthday. The certificate > said that the bottle in the box contained soil from the exact county in > Ireland he was born, he broke down. My gift now take pride of place in > his home. > > Please everyone check out this site it has brought my Grandfather so > much joy !!! > > Spamming wanker
From The Constitution or Cork Morning Post, 14 August 1822 - Tralee, County Kerry CONVICTIONS Since the commencement of our Assizes Michael Foley, Mathew Sullivan, Timothy Healy, and Arthur O'Leary, for murder of Mr. Brereton, to be hanged were executed this day. Owen Sullivan, Lawrence Sullivan, and Cornelius Casey, administering unlawful oaths, to be transported for life. John Currane, sheep stealing, to be transported for life. Mary Taugney, Larceny, no sentence. Michael M'Mahon, tried for the murder of Edmond Fitzgerald at Listowell, guilty of manslaughter, to be transported for life. Patrick Sullivan, and Denis Sullivan, administering unlawful oaths, to be transported for life. William Coffee, sheep stealing, like sentence. Thomas Rourke, burglary, to be hanged, day not mentioned. William Shea, Goat stealing, no sentence. James Mahony, Cow stealing, to be transported. James Casey, Michael Hennessy, William Moore, and Honora Moore, the prisoners were put on their trial for the murder of Elizabeth Kelly, and the Prisoner Casey applied to have the trial postponed until the next Assizes, on account of the absence of material witnesses, grounded on an affidavit sworn yesterday. Mr. Lloyd, Counsel for the Crown opposing the application stated that the names of the witnesses having been communicated to the Crown Solicitor last night, he sent a carriage to the residence of the witnesses and they were brought to town this morning, and were then in attendance. The prisoners said they had no money to fee Counsel or Attorney, and the Court asked if there would be any inconvenience in postponing the trial till the next Assizes, the Counsel for the Crown, replied that there would probably be a failure of justice, but that to avoid all objection the Crown Solicitor would supply the prisoners with money to have professional assistance, and this being answered the trial was fixed for Monday next. William Moore who is deaf and dumb was then put to plead, and a witness having been examined to prove that he did not stand mute from obstinacy, but by the conviction of GOD, and that he understood signs, the nature of the charge was communicated to him, and the Clerk of the Crown was directed by the Court to record a plea of not guilty for him. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dennis Ahern | Ireland Newspaper Abstracts Acton, Massachusetts | http://www.IrelandOldNews.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
The site is replete with spelling mistakes. If the guy behind it cannot be bothered to use a spell checker I wonder about his assiduousness in getting soil from the relevant county in Ireland. And this really amused me: "The idea is mainly aimed at millions of Irish Americans who may have left Ireland during the famine, or have ancestors from Ireland". If he is aiming it the millions who left during the famine he's not going to make a buck: they're all dead! Anyhow, he's probably operating on the truth of WC Fields' dictum: "There's a sucker born every minute". Regards, John, Ireland.
Forever Irish <cenako2@aol.com> wrote: > I'm very sorry but I am not a spammer. Would I be talking to you now if > I was. You're obivously not Irish I you are that grumpy. Slan Isn't it illegal in most countries to import soil from another country (plant and animal diseases etc)?? I always thought it was. I live in Scotland and I bet I wouldn't be allowed to bring a pot of soil over from Ireland. Not that I would want to. I don't believe in such things. My Irishness is in me (according to my family every time I open my mouth) and I can now see it in my children. I had a look at this site. Whoever it is can't spell authenticity, and the link for the certificate of "authentisity" doesn't work. Who is going to authenticate a sod of earth? I think your grandfather may very well have a bit of Texas in a bottle. Was there a postmark from Ireland? Quite a lot of people bought bits of the moon some years ago. Anyway, your grandfather should know that Ireland remembers him, soil or not. Memories are the thing. Mind you, when I was at school I remember my mother asking me on several occasions to go out to the turf stack to choose a good sod, and carve and paint a cottage out of it to give to some visiting American. The chimney was always a problem. Tended to fall off. Maire
Could you please send the link again as the page seems to be lost and could not be downloaded. Thanks Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "Forever Irish" <cenako2@aol.com> To: <GENIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 2:55 AM Subject: Yesterday I saw my Irish grandfather cry for the first time. > When he opened the gift I gave him for his 75 birthday. The certificate > said that the bottle in the box contained soil from the exact county in > Ireland he was born, he broke down. My gift now take pride of place in > his home. > > Please everyone check out this site it has brought my Grandfather so > much joy !!! > > > www.littlebitofireland.com > >
<Robert.Judge@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1138069213.596778.218920@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... >I am looking for a record of Jane Gaw, born somewhere in Mayo in 1859 > to parents James Gaw and Maria Maria McIntyre. She emigrated to the > U.S. around 1880, settled in South Hadley MA, and married Thomas Judge > there. The name GAW does not appear in the Griffiths Valuation Index (1847-1864) in Mayo and the index is usually a good indicator for surname geography. The name does appear in Antrim, Cavan, Down, Derry, a James Gaw is listed in Cavan and Down. It is not impossible of course that Mayo is the correct county, but I wonder what your source for Mayo is, nothing worse than looking in the wrong place. Mike.
"Jane Lyons" <jane_lyons2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:20060123125408.22986.qmail@web54509.mail.yahoo.com... >I have indexed the names of the Immediate Lessors and > Occupiers as listed in > the Griffiths Primary Valuation for Killabban Civil > Parish, in County Laois (Queen's/Leix) > Hello Jane. We have communicated some time ago. I also have the Griffths Valuation Index and have often wondered how do we know that for example, William Bolger listed at various townlands are one and the same person!. We know that it was common to use the naming pattern, so if we have a William Bolger born 1790/1800 and he has four sons, one named William who names his fist born son after his father, and the other sons do the same, we can have 5 (if not more) William Bolgers leasing/owning land in their own right by say 1852/5 or as late as 1864. I have no doubt that multiple records bearing the same name are for one person, but I just wonder about the possibility of the above. As always it is nice to browse your site. Regards. Mike. PS....Do you know if anyone has yet transcribed the names of all irishmen that fell during WW1, I remember someone asking about this a while back.
"Charani" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message news:43c4de1e$0$16702$892e7fe2@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net... > On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 09:00:40 -0000, John Malone wrote: > >> I am inclined to believe that Jonathan is the correct name, on the basis >> of - >> (1) the name John appears many times in the Kildare register without >> abbreviation, yet my ancestors name seems to be abbreviated every time >> (2) one entry for my ancestors name is written as (what looks like) Jnt., >> which could only Jonathan, not John JNO can be recorded for JOHN, my grandfather is John William b. 1886 and is recorded as JNO in the index and also in the 1891 and 1901 census, if you try to search for him as John William he does not show. His birth cert has him as John William. Mike.
Who did the listing, is there a way of knowing? I had even assumed an American (or colonial of that period) or British sailor or port authority had, but still whoever he was he wouldn't just abbreviate Dutchman Tegley to a John or Jonathan, would he? There were three Jno.s on the list. As to Jeremiah, there is on the list a Jerimiah and a Jeri. There are 5 Johannes, 4 Johann and even a Hans, too. Since these last three would be the equivalents of John (imagine writing down Johannes but abbreviating Jno.), these three Jno.'s real name remains a mystery.
From The American Citizen [Lowell, MA], 13 April 1883 - Died at the Age of 105 William Burke died at his residence, 136 Broadway, Friday evening, at the remarkable age of 105. Mr. Burke was born in county Galway, Ireland, of stock that was celebrated for its longevity. He married late in life and for many years was in charge of a landed property in Ornmore, near the city of Galway. Several of his sons came to this country, and the old gentleman when nearly 90 years of age concluded to follow them and experience the privileges of the new world. He purchased a farm on the Lawrence Road, where he remained until a short time ago, when he left it in charge of a daughter and her husband and came to Lowell. He retained his faculties to the last, and could see and hear as well as men who were forty years younger. He did the chores around the house and was active until three days ago, when he suddenly became very ill. He leaves four sons and two daughters, the youngest of whom is 20 years of age. Deceased was a man of irreproachable character, and possessed the respect of a large circle of friends. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dennis Ahern | Middlesex County Massachusetts Newspaper Abstracts Acton, Massachusetts | http://www.rootsweb.com/~mamidnws/index.html - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -