Hi Kaye, Just a guess, but could the colours referred to be colours of football teams? Was the young man a GAA (Gaelic Athletic Association) football player? Green & Gold are the colours of the Leitrim County GAA team. The reference to "scarlet stripes" certainly suggests a football jersey, but the best known Red/White colours are Cork, Tyrone also red/white, but not stripes. But perhaps red stripes were used by some local football club. See www.gaa.ie for links to hundreds of county & club team web sites and their colours. Historic colours might be different from current day - you need to know what date the poem refers to. Note that Leitrim is in Connaught province (generally referred to as West), not in Ulster (North). Blue & white are on the arms of Connaught. "Kaye Payne" <kayepayne@bigpond.com> wrote in message news:0_YDf.232766$V7.195108@news-server.bigpond.net.au... > Hi, > > I am back to researching my husband's Irish relations. The following verse > written about a man who died young has just turned up regarding one of them. > I am wondering about the last line - a red cross be raised and am asking if > anyone would know why the mention of the red cross. The Northern Ireland > flag has a red cross on white and as the family came from Killargue County > Leitrim North Ireland to Australia I wonder if it refers to that flag. The > family seemed to say they came from North Ireland as opposed to Northern > Ireland. > > Kaye Payne > > He has passed from this world with its strife and its care, > From the lingering sickness which bore down his frame; > He has gone to the mansions, so bright and so fair, > Where rest, joy, and peace there never can wane. > Then grieve not for him for his soul is at rest' > In the sweet Saviour's arms in that land of the blest. > > His innocent youth, and his sweet smile has gone > And his playful jollity ne'er can return, > And the radiance glad from his countenance chase > Has now in its happiness found a new home. > Then in joy or in sorrow we'll think of his name, > And the tie of affection shall still be the same. > > As brother and comrade in black we shall mourn, > And the gay scarlet stripes shall be hid from the view, > The mark of the cross to his grave shall be borne, > And the white covered o'er by the apron of blue. > Then in green or in gold let his body be placed, > And over his headstone, a red cross be raised. > >

Hi, I am back to researching my husband's Irish relations. The following verse written about a man who died young has just turned up regarding one of them. I am wondering about the last line - a red cross be raised and am asking if anyone would know why the mention of the red cross. The Northern Ireland flag has a red cross on white and as the family came from Killargue County Leitrim North Ireland to Australia I wonder if it refers to that flag. The family seemed to say they came from North Ireland as opposed to Northern Ireland. Kaye Payne He has passed from this world with its strife and its care, From the lingering sickness which bore down his frame; He has gone to the mansions, so bright and so fair, Where rest, joy, and peace there never can wane. Then grieve not for him for his soul is at rest' In the sweet Saviour's arms in that land of the blest. His innocent youth, and his sweet smile has gone And his playful jollity ne'er can return, And the radiance glad from his countenance chase Has now in its happiness found a new home. Then in joy or in sorrow we'll think of his name, And the tie of affection shall still be the same. As brother and comrade in black we shall mourn, And the gay scarlet stripes shall be hid from the view, The mark of the cross to his grave shall be borne, And the white covered o'er by the apron of blue. Then in green or in gold let his body be placed, And over his headstone, a red cross be raised.

If you enter Pollock in the search engine of the IrelandOldNews website you get hits on 77 pages. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dennis Ahern | Ireland Newspaper Abstracts Acton, Massachusetts | http://www.IrelandOldNews.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

The Times [London], 7 August 1922 - THE QUEENSTOWN CALL. We have received a telegram from the United States Lines at Cork contradicting the statement published on July 31 that the steamers of this company were ceasing to call at Queenstown. The company say[s]:-- "The facts are as follows :--Our steamship President Adams, from New York, arrived off the Daunt light-vessel at 4 a.m. on July 28, and our company's special pilot (Aherne), who had been awaiting the arrival of the vessel boarded her three miles south-south-west of Roche's Point, bringing her to an anchorage at 4.30 a.m. G.M.T. Having landed fifty-six out of sixty-three Queenstown passengers and the Cork and Queenstown mails only (the other Irish mails were carried on to Plymouth at the request of the Cork postmaster), the President Adams proceeded for Plymouth at 5.45, all well." - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dennis Ahern | Immigrant Ships Transcribers Guild, Irish Maritime News Acton, Mass. | http://immigrantships.net/newsarticles/newsarticles.html - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

From The Cork Examiner, 28 October 1864 - The Hon. Judge O'Brien has arrived in Limerick, from Dublin, upon a visit to friends. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dennis Ahern | Ireland Newspaper Abstracts Acton, Massachusetts | http://www.IrelandOldNews.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Jeremiah Pollock came to Canada circa 1830 and settled in township called Britonville just northwest of Montreal, Quebec, Canada.... near the towns of Mille Isles and Morin Heights. Jeremiah is my g-g-grandfather. It is beleived that he may have come to Canada with either is uncles or brothers named William and James. I have been unable to find any information on him, ie, birth certificate or area of origin although it is believed that he came from Ireland. In the 1851 Census of Canada he is listed as a farmer from Ireland Presbyterian Age 26 living with his wife Nancy Dempsey and daughter Jane. He was married in Feb. 1850 in Canada. However I have noted that his age varies from census to census sometimes off by 10 years but his wife was alwys the same. Jeremiah is not the "normal" first name like John or James or Robert but I have not been able to find much on any Jeremiah. Any help in obtaining more information of my Jeremiah would be greatly appreciated. I am also beginning to think that Jeremiah may have been a middle name that he used as a first... anything I guess is possible.

scrattletrap <sharon.clancy@gmail.com> wrote: : I am building a website of local Limerick history, I've added links to : good genealogy sites that I have found, mostly for Limerick but some : for Ireland. Any suggestions for more (or suggestions in general) are : very welcome. : www.limerickslife.com See: http://www.mayo-ireland.ie/Geneal/Limerick.htm Limerick Family Heritage Centre computerizing parish records Provides search service for a fee See http://tiara.ie/results.htm for customer comments [NOTE: service has been suspended due to budget constraints] http://scripts.ireland.com/ancestor/browse/counties/munster/index_li.htm Limerick sources for genealogy http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Parthenon/6108/limmap.htm Civil Parishes Map of County Limerick http://www.familia.org.uk/services/eire/limerick_city.html Limerick City Library Family History Resources http://www.familia.org.uk/services/eire/limerick_county.html Family History Resources at County Limerick Libraries http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Parthenon/6108/limerick.htm County Limerick surname queries http://www.limerickroots.ireland.org/ Limerick Roots http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/LIM/index.htm County Limerick Surnames and Census Records http://www.limerickcoco.ie/library/lewis/ Towns in County Limerick 1837 http://ireland.iol.ie/~thu/ Tipperary Heritage Unit (Diocese of Cashel and Emly records) Includes parts of Limerick, Provides search service for a fee http://www.celticcousins.net/ireland/1824limerick.htm Pigot's Directory of Limerick 1824

Anyone else looking at the family of Michael Ridge, a farmer in County Galway in the early 1800's? Thanks - Gene Hawkins hereward@earthlink.net

Charani <me@privacy.net> wrote: >On 23 Jan 2006 11:47:35 -0800, Vip Aleonar (Philippines) wrote: > >> I was searching for the surname Tegley and came across a ship's >> manifest of passengers from Rotterdam arriving as immigrants in >> Philadelphia October 1727. One of the passengers was a Jno. Tegley. >> Since presumably he was Dutch, Jno. couldn't have been a John or >> Jonathan, could he? > >Jno was the standard abbreviation for John. > >Just because the ship left from Rotterdam, doesn't mean that all the >passengers were Dutch. If you tell me passengers with names Schonholtzer, Tegley, Forrer, Heistand, Kriebiel indeed sound like Englishmen and thus may be Jno.ed, it's okay with me. -- [Posted at boards.ie] http://www.boards.ie/ Ireland's Bulletin Boards, News Groups, Chat Rooms After Hours - Games - Technology - Work - For Sale

Christopher Coburn wrote: > Mary Sullivan from "Carey Ireland" > on the census in Wales, > > could be County Kerry Ireland > (Carey could be Kerry) > > Sullivan name in Kerry is the most common surname in Kerry. > There were 2135 Sullivans/O'Sullivans > living in Kerry according to the 1901 > Kerry census. > My own family history goes back to > Eugene O'Sullivan born Tralee 1845 > to John O'Sullivan. Simon O'Sullivan was Eugene's godfather. > Augusta Beecher his godmother. > (strange surname for Tralee, Beecher) > no idea where she fits in to the family overall picture.) > regards > KerryKate > > > > Right, Carey must mean Kerry. I'll try again to help Walt. The 1881 UK Census lists Sullivans in or near the Rhymney Valley whose place of birth in County Cork is given as: > Dunmannay > Glandau > Desert > Maidstons > Grania > Conkilty > Castletown > Bandon > St J > Ballinasloe > Macroom Jim

Mary Sullivan from "Carey Ireland" on the census in Wales, could be County Kerry Ireland (Carey could be Kerry) Sullivan name in Kerry is the most common surname in Kerry. There were 2135 Sullivans/O'Sullivans living in Kerry according to the 1901 Kerry census. My own family history goes back to Eugene O'Sullivan born Tralee 1845 to John O'Sullivan. Simon O'Sullivan was Eugene's godfather. Augusta Beecher his godmother. (strange surname for Tralee, Beecher) no idea where she fits in to the family overall picture.) regards KerryKate

I am building a website of local Limerick history, I've added links to good genealogy sites that I have found, mostly for Limerick but some for Ireland. Any suggestions for more (or suggestions in general) are very welcome. www.limerickslife.com Sharon

yes you can get the cert with that information, the cert system came into effect in Ireland in 1864, this site for the general registry office will tell you all you need to know, it is 10 euros to get the cert. http://www.groireland.ie/

>EAST COUNTY CORK, IRELAND is defined as the geographic area South of >MIDLETON, West of YOUGHAL, East of COBH and North of BALLYCOTTON. >There are a number >of maps on the new Web Site indicating the boundaries of EAST COUNTY >CORK. My question is... Is this a generally accepted definition of East Cork? If so, that would put Cork City officially in West Cork? Cheers, Lee

From The Cork Examiner, 17 October 1861 - MARRIAGES. On the 8th inst., at St. George's Church, Dublin, Acheson Henderson, Esq., of Mountjoy-square, to Harriette, eldest daughter of the late Michael Law, Esq. On the 15th inst., at Donnybrook Church, Richard, second son of Christopher Wilson, Esq., of Lower Tooting, Surrey, to Alice Diana Mary, daughter of the late Thomas Johnston, Esq., of Adelaide, Merrion. At Dirleton Manse, East Lothian, on the 10th inst., by the Rev. Dr. Fowler, of Ratho, Henry Hartley, of Ballynamona House, county Cork, second son of the late John Hartley, Esq., of Mousby House, Cumberland, to Jessie, fourth daughter of the Rev. James Scott. Oct. 10, in Kinvara, by the Rev. Francis Arthur, P.P., uncle of the bridegroom, assisted by the Rev. P. A. McDonagh, Professor of the Irish College, Paris, and the Rev. C. O'Carroll, C.C., Kinvara, Mr. Francis M'Donagh, of the post-office, Ennistymon, to Lizzie, second daughter of Mr. Joseph Salmon, Kinvara. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dennis Ahern | Ireland Newspaper Abstracts Acton, Massachusetts | http://www.IrelandOldNews.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Lee: Thanks for your post. Whether or not "generally accepted" ... for the purposes of this Yahoo group EAST COUNTY CORK is defined as follows: > EAST COUNTY CORK, IRELAND is defined as the geographic area South > of MIDLETON, West of YOUGHAL, East of COBH and North of > BALLYCOTTON. Cork City is an entity in and of itself ... > everything else is either North, South, East or West of Cork City. Bill Dorgan Owner and Moderator: EAST COUNTY CORK Yahoo Group.

The 1891 census of Rhymney shows a Mary Sullivan whose place of birth is clearly written as "Carey Ireland." No idea where that is, but it might be a clue. Good luck in your research. (I have the same brick wall with a Donovan from Cork.) Jim WSULLIVW@aol.com wrote: >>>>I have hit a brickwall with my SULLIVAN direct line. I have found them in >>> >>>Rhymney, Wales and in Northeast Pennsylvania around the Old Forge, Minooka, >>>Taylor areas of Scranton but I have not been able to get them back to >>>Ireland. Folk lore has they were from County Cork. >>> >>>I am contemplating participating in SULLIVAN DNA Project. Any commentts, >>>suggestions wud be appreciated >>> >>>Regards, >>> >>>Walt >>>Walton J. Sullivan at wsullivw@aol.com >>> >>> >>>http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/s/u/l/Walton--J-Sullivan/index.html >>> >> >

I have an ancestor, William Clark, who may be from Co. Mayo & may be a Crimean War Veteran who received land in Canada as reward for his services. Are there records in Ireland for those veterans or would they be in Britain? Does anyone know if there is a website that may have veterans listed for that conflict? Thanks, Kathleen Lott

Hi Mamie I agree it doesn't make sense, but, it is true. I was going nuts trying to find GGGrandfather John Henry Haigh, in one of the census' it didn't help the surname was mistranscribed but to make it worse his name was given as Jno Hy Heuge Barb ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mamie" <gothic@acd.net> To: <GENIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 5:15 PM Subject: Re: Abbreviation "Jno." > > Charani wrote: > >> >> Jno was the standard abbreviation for John. > > But why abbreviate John as it is only one letter more than Jno? > Respectfully, that doesn't seem to make much sense... > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.23/240 - Release Date: > 25/01/2006 > >

> > >> I have hit a brickwall with my SULLIVAN direct line. I have found them in >> Rhymney, Wales and in Northeast Pennsylvania around the Old Forge, Minooka, >> Taylor areas of Scranton but I have not been able to get them back to >> Ireland. Folk lore has they were from County Cork. >> >> I am contemplating participating in SULLIVAN DNA Project. Any commentts, >> suggestions wud be appreciated >> >> Regards, >> >> Walt >> Walton J. Sullivan at wsullivw@aol.com >> >> >> http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/s/u/l/Walton--J-Sullivan/index.html >> >