On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 5:37 AM, Trish <[email protected]> wrote: > Here are some photos of the north inner city showing the tenement buildings > before they were knocked. > http://www.dublin1850.com/old_and_new.html > They may be of interest to some here. > > -- > Trish > > Dublin Directory of 1850 > http://www.dublin1850.com > > ----------------- > www.Newsgroup-Binaries.com <http://www.newsgroup-binaries.com/> - > *Completion*Retention*Speed* > Access your favorite newsgroups from home or on the road > ----------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

"Alison Kilpatrick" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected] > Transcribed from the 11 May 1844 edition of The Coleraine Chronicle > newspaper, by permission of The British Library: > Alison, thank you. I'm really enjoying these snippets! Lesley Robertson

"Natalie Drest" <[email protected]> wrote in message And I find confusing all the different types of land > divisions - civil parish, townland,I haven't a clue what a Barony is! :-)) I can sympathise. Very early on in trying to find my way through Irish records, I figured out that I needed to have all such details instantly to hand. To overcome the problem I bought a folder with a see through pocket on the fornt cover and under the name being researched promptly wrote the names of the County, Parish, Barony, Townland and Poor Law Union. It helps a lot. Inside the folder is a definition of each one and I find I also need to refer to that quite often too. I have a friend who went to Ireland specifically to do research. Given some of the absolutely astounding information that she has managed to dig up on her family from English and Scottish records, I had thought she would be fully prepared to do her Irish research. When she got back she told me that she couldn't do anything useful as she didn't realise how important it was to know which Townland her family came from. I was quite surprised to say the least.

FarmI <[email protected] be given> wrote: : "Natalie Drest" <[email protected]> wrote in message : And I find confusing all the different types of land :> divisions - civil parish, townland,I haven't a clue what a Barony is! An essential tool for Irish genealogists is Brian Mitchell's "A New Genealogical Atlas of Ireland" which has maps showing what parishes are in which baronies, poor law unions, etc. For example, you cannot know which volume of Griffith's Valuation to look in unless you know what barony or poor law union a given parish was recorded under. -dja

Transcribed from the 11 May 1844 edition of The Coleraine Chronicle newspaper, by permission of The British Library: A singular case of bigamy has been discovered in Liverpool. A married woman, named Margaret M'Neal, living with her husband, got married with his consent, about three years ago, to their lodger, named Michael Devine, and they have since lived happily all together. The woman is in custody, and has a child in her arms. ===================================== Transcriber's note: This article appeared under the "Irish News" heading, in the edition above-mentioned.

Well now, to find if the report was from another county, I'm going to write to the Cork Library which has the Cork Examiner from 1841 onward. Being given the specific paper, date and page number, they might have time to look it up for me. Here's hoping ;) MA "Natalie Drest" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected] > Thank you Dennis, > What an excellent idea! It is only an exerpt, from Page 3 Mon Evening > Nov 26 1855. It was kindly sent to me some years ago by Beth McAleer from > the O'Neill Library, Boston College. I shall try getting in touch with her > again. > If there is some other way to find out if it is a report from another > county I would appreciate the advice. > > Thanks again, > Mary Ann >

Alison Kilpatrick wrote: > Transcribed from the 11 May 1844 edition of The Coleraine Chronicle > newspaper, by permission of The British Library: > > A singular case of bigamy has been discovered in Liverpool. A > married woman, named Margaret M'Neal, living with her husband, got > married with his consent, about three years ago, to their lodger, named > Michael Devine, and they have since lived happily all together. The > woman is in custody, and has a child in her arms. > > ===================================== > > Transcriber's note: This article appeared under the "Irish News" > heading, in the edition above-mentioned. > > As if one husband isn't enough....

Thank you Dennis, What an excellent idea! It is only an exerpt, from Page 3 Mon Evening Nov 26 1855. It was kindly sent to me some years ago by Beth McAleer from the O'Neill Library, Boston College. I shall try getting in touch with her again. If there is some other way to find out if it is a report from another county I would appreciate the advice. Thanks again, Mary Ann "Dennis Ahern" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected] > Natalie Drest <[email protected]> wrote: > > : My original post was specific, with all the info supplied relating to > : that particular question. It is in relation to an1855 newspaper article > : referring to the "Kilmore, of this county" with the assumption the county > : was Cork, since the paper was Cork Examiner. > > If you have the complete page of the Cork Examiner in which this exceprt > appeared you can check the column heading to see if there is any > indication that it is part of a report from another county. For example, > it may have a heading of "Limerick News" or somthing similar. If all you > have is the extract, taken out of context, it would be easy to be misled > into thinking it was referring to a Kilmore in Co. Cork. > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > Dennis Ahern | Ireland Newspaper Abstracts > Acton, Massachusetts | http://www.IrelandOldNews.com > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Here are some photos of the north inner city showing the tenement buildings before they were knocked. http://www.dublin1850.com/old_and_new.html They may be of interest to some here. -- Trish Dublin Directory of 1850 http://www.dublin1850.com ----------------- www.Newsgroup-Binaries.com - *Completion*Retention*Speed* Access your favorite newsgroups from home or on the road -----------------

There were 30,000+ families in Belfast in 1901 I have indexed over 13,000 of these and I have now begun to put them on my website in alphabetical order. There were about 2,500 people with the surnames A-E Jane http://www.from-ireland.net http://www.laoisgenealogy.com A Surnames http://www.from-ireland.net/ant/1901census/belfast/asurnames1.htm B Surnames http://www.from-ireland.net/ant/1901census/belfast/bsurnames1.htm C Surnames http://www.from-ireland.net/ant/1901census/belfast/csurnames1.htm D Surnames http://www.from-ireland.net/ant/1901census/belfast/dsurnames1.htm E Surnames http://www.from-ireland.net/ant/1901census/belfast/esurnames1.htm

In message <[email protected]> John Cartmell <[email protected]> wrote: > In article <db68799d4f%[email protected]>, Graeme Wall > <[email protected]> wrote: > > The series lasted into the colour era and the lamp was certainly blue then. > > The bit about make-up being funny colours is a bit of an urban myth, it > > dates back to the early experiments in TV before the war. > > It was still monochrome on our TV (though not in my memory)! > > > > I allways remember Dixon being in B&W. When we grew up we had a TV > > > provided by the BBC (via Radio Rentals) but it was only B&W even some > > > time (years?) after the BBC started broadcasting in colour. > > > That surprises me as it was standard for TM1s (Studio lighting engineers) > > to have colour televisions, as did Senior Cameramen, the rest of us had > > to buy our own! > > > I worked on the last series of Dixon (and of Z-Cars) and Jack was unable > > to walk very far and most of his scenes were staged to allow him to lean > > on something convenient for the most part. He was a delightful man to > > work with. > > That was the double-Sergeant series? I remember JW spending much time > behind that desk - though I don't remember him sitting down much. Lots of > standing with both hands on the desk. > That's right. He refused to sit down at the desk because he said it would look unprofessional. -- Graeme Wall My genealogy website <www.greywall.demon.co.uk/genealogy>

I hope that these memories of bygone times, film and TV history, will go into your family histories for your descendants to enjoy. It gives such richness to memories ... And has been a pleasure to read. Karen > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Reply-To: <[email protected]> > Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 16:45:07 -0600 > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: GENIRE Digest, Vol 3, Issue 116

John Cartmell wrote: > In article <db68799d4f%[email protected]>, Graeme Wall > <[email protected]> wrote: >> The series lasted into the colour era and the lamp was certainly blue then. >> The bit about make-up being funny colours is a bit of an urban myth, it >> dates back to the early experiments in TV before the war. > > It was still monochrome on our TV (though not in my memory)! > >>> I allways remember Dixon being in B&W. When we grew up we had a TV >>> provided by the BBC (via Radio Rentals) but it was only B&W even some >>> time (years?) after the BBC started broadcasting in colour. > >> That surprises me as it was standard for TM1s (Studio lighting engineers) >> to have colour televisions, as did Senior Cameramen, the rest of us had to >> buy our own! > >> I worked on the last series of Dixon (and of Z-Cars) and Jack was unable to >> walk very far and most of his scenes were staged to allow him to lean on >> something convenient for the most part. He was a delightful man to work >> with. > > That was the double-Sergeant series? I remember JW spending much time behind > that desk - though I don't remember him sitting down much. Lots of standing > with both hands on the desk. I remember reading about JW being a bit unsteady on his feet, so filming had to allow for that.

In article <db68799d4f%[email protected]>, Graeme Wall <[email protected]> wrote: > The series lasted into the colour era and the lamp was certainly blue then. > The bit about make-up being funny colours is a bit of an urban myth, it > dates back to the early experiments in TV before the war. It was still monochrome on our TV (though not in my memory)! > > I allways remember Dixon being in B&W. When we grew up we had a TV > > provided by the BBC (via Radio Rentals) but it was only B&W even some > > time (years?) after the BBC started broadcasting in colour. > That surprises me as it was standard for TM1s (Studio lighting engineers) > to have colour televisions, as did Senior Cameramen, the rest of us had to > buy our own! > I worked on the last series of Dixon (and of Z-Cars) and Jack was unable to > walk very far and most of his scenes were staged to allow him to lean on > something convenient for the most part. He was a delightful man to work > with. That was the double-Sergeant series? I remember JW spending much time behind that desk - though I don't remember him sitting down much. Lots of standing with both hands on the desk. -- John

In article <[email protected]>, CWatters <[email protected]> wrote: > "John Cartmell" <[email protected]> wrote in message > news:[email protected] > > In article <[email protected]>, > > CWatters <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > My dad did some of the lighting for that show and Dixon of Dock Green. > > > > So what colour *was* the lamp? > Ah that's got me. Is there a controversy? I know some things like make-up > were funny colours in those days because the response of the B&W cameras > made things look wrong - so quite possible a police lamp wasn't blue in the > studio...or is this a reference to the original film The Blue Lamp? The problem of the colours that were used gained a degree of publicity when the BBC moved to colour broadcasts and it came out that what we presumed to be <colour X> was actually quite different in order to give the impression of <colour X> when we saw it in black and white. I can vividly 'remember' the lamp being blue in the end sequence but only ever saw it in monochrome of course. -- John

In message <[email protected]> "CWatters" <[email protected]> wrote: > > "John Cartmell" <[email protected]> wrote in message > news:[email protected] > > In article <[email protected]>, > > CWatters <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > My dad did some of the lighting for that show and Dixon of Dock > > > > Green. > > > > So what colour *was* the lamp? > > > > Ah that's got me. Is there a controversy? I know some things like make-up > were funny colours in those days because the response of the B&W cameras > made things look wrong - so quite possible a police lamp wasn't blue in the > studio...or is this a reference to the original film The Blue Lamp? Sadly > my father died quite a few years ago so I can't ask him. The series lasted into the colour era and the lamp was certainly blue then. The bit about make-up being funny colours is a bit of an urban myth, it dates back to the early experiments in TV before the war. > > I allways remember Dixon being in B&W. When we grew up we had a TV provided > by the BBC (via Radio Rentals) but it was only B&W even some time (years?) > after the BBC started broadcasting in colour. That surprises me as it was standard for TM1s (Studio lighting engineers) to have colour televisions, as did Senior Cameramen, the rest of us had to buy our own! I worked on the last series of Dixon (and of Z-Cars) and Jack was unable to walk very far and most of his scenes were staged to allow him to lean on something convenient for the most part. He was a delightful man to work with. -- Graeme Wall My genealogy website <www.greywall.demon.co.uk/genealogy>

Hello Don, Thanks for your reply. Yes, GENUKI is a great source of info. My original post was specific, with all the info supplied relating to that particular question. It is in relation to an1855 newspaper article referring to the "Kilmore, of this county" with the assumption the county was Cork, since the paper was Cork Examiner. I thought the post was clearly put. I didn't think I needed to spell out "Is there a Kilmore in Cork and if so where is it? " as it was implied by my comments. Conversationally, questions can be proposed without being stated in traditional question format,e.g. "Maybe I am misreading the entry" implies "Am I misreading the entry?" However, thanks for the tips. My investigation continues. Mary Ann "Don Moody" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected] > > "Natalie Drest" <[email protected]> wrote in message > news:[email protected] > > Thank you Trish, > > > > I can see I have opened a Pandora's Box of Kilmores! I'll try to > > pinpoint > > them to see if there are geographical connections to the family, > > perhaps. > > Hmm big job I think. And I find confusing all the different types of > > land > > divisions - civil parish, townland,I haven't a clue what a Barony > > is! I have > > a Lot of homework. > > > > On the information givee in your past, I haven't a clue either. I'd > suggest two things. > > First go to the GENUKI website, read up all you can, and ffollow > whatever links you think rekevant to your search/ > > That may give you enough extra shreds of information such that you can > put the question again on this newsgroup but with enough detail to > enable people to gude you to the Kilmore you seek or at least to a > very restricted choice. Then you may be able to get right down to the > target by looking st the right set of records. > > What you cannot assume is that people o the implied social status were > static and did not meet people of similar class from quite great > distances away. Those sorts of people travelled by horse and networked > like mad. There would be officers from the same regiment meeting > socially, and marrying eachother's sisters and daughters. There would > be landed gentry neeting eachothr in connection with business. There > would be balls in country houses, and they were in efect meat markets. > It wasn't at all unknown for sme of this class to go to London for > 'The Season'. > The people who had to stay still, until starvation forced migration, > were the peasantry. > > You may find a pattern of marrying the girl next door but in the right > social class you might find next door is 50 miles away. Tou can't > necessarily jump to conclusions. The only way is the painstaking one, > and for that you'll need to know what you are doing. > > Don > > > >

"John Cartmell" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected] > In article <[email protected]>, > CWatters <[email protected]> wrote: >> > My dad did some of the lighting for that show and Dixon of Dock Green. > > So what colour *was* the lamp? > Ah that's got me. Is there a controversy? I know some things like make-up were funny colours in those days because the response of the B&W cameras made things look wrong - so quite possible a police lamp wasn't blue in the studio...or is this a reference to the original film The Blue Lamp? Sadly my father died quite a few years ago so I can't ask him. I allways remember Dixon being in B&W. When we grew up we had a TV provided by the BBC (via Radio Rentals) but it was only B&W even some time (years?) after the BBC started broadcasting in colour. Somewhere we still have a car rug that Jack Warner (formerly Waters) gave my father. As far as I know we aren't related. That rug must be 30-35 years old now but it still gets used in the summer! If it helps any the rug is a green check!

Natalie Drest <[email protected]> wrote: : My original post was specific, with all the info supplied relating to : that particular question. It is in relation to an1855 newspaper article : referring to the "Kilmore, of this county" with the assumption the county : was Cork, since the paper was Cork Examiner. If you have the complete page of the Cork Examiner in which this exceprt appeared you can check the column heading to see if there is any indication that it is part of a report from another county. For example, it may have a heading of "Limerick News" or somthing similar. If all you have is the extract, taken out of context, it would be easy to be misled into thinking it was referring to a Kilmore in Co. Cork. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dennis Ahern | Ireland Newspaper Abstracts Acton, Massachusetts | http://www.IrelandOldNews.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Mike Fry wrote: > In article <Xz%[email protected]>, [email protected] says... >> CWatters wrote: >>>> Did you have to mention Z-Cars ! Now I'm never going to get the theme >>>> music out of my head. >>>> >>>> My dad did some of the lighting for that show and Dixon of Dock Green. >>>> >>>> Evening all. >> I think the Z-Cars theme is still used by Watford FC when players come >> on to field. >> > > No - Everton. > Yes. Watford as well. They have tried other tunes but have always come back to Z-Cars.