In message <[email protected]> "SammyM" <[email protected]> wrote: > "CWatters" wrote > > > Harland & Wolff is in Derry isn't it? > > > Oh Dear !! > > I worked in H&W all my life and can assure you I never travelled to Derry! > <smile> > Did you watch the recent BBC series on H&W? If not look out for the repeats. -- Graeme Wall My genealogy website <www.greywall.demon.co.uk/genealogy>

On Wed, 14 May 2008 21:18:42 +0100, "CWatters" <[email protected]> wrote: > >"Jaqian" <[email protected]> wrote in message >news:[email protected]m... >> My g-g-grandfather Caldwell Hyndman worked in the Derry Shipyards >> according to the family history. Does anyone know if its possible to >> find records from the shipyards even though they're closed over 80yrs? >> I want to know if its possible to check to see if he was employed >> there and what dates. >> >> Cheers, >> Rob > >Harland & Wolff is in Derry isn't it? > No, Belfast (or the well-known bits of the firm anyway). There is some mention of shipbuilding in Derry in :- http://www.fortgeorge.org/pages/backgr.htm which makes it sound like a minor affair compared with Belfast. The "closed for 80 years" in conjuction with information in that article sounds like there was a general local change from what shipbuilding etc. there was to maintaining the Royal Navy. Googling for +shipbuilding +derry offers about 25000 articles to trawl which drops to 2800 if site:uk is added. A popular book reference seems to be "Thunder and Clatter: History of Shipbuilding in Derry" by Gerald Hasson. >http://www.proni.gov.uk/ > >Has records for Harland & Wolff 1861-1987 > >http://www.proni.gov.uk/introduction__harland_and_wolff_d2805.pdf > >Apparently members of the public must submit a written request to Harland & >Wolff, through PRONI for access. >

"CWatters" wrote > Harland & Wolff is in Derry isn't it? Oh Dear !! I worked in H&W all my life and can assure you I never travelled to Derry! <smile> SammyM

"Jaqian" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]m... > My g-g-grandfather Caldwell Hyndman worked in the Derry Shipyards > according to the family history. Does anyone know if its possible to > find records from the shipyards even though they're closed over 80yrs? > I want to know if its possible to check to see if he was employed > there and what dates. > > Cheers, > Rob Harland & Wolff is in Derry isn't it? http://www.proni.gov.uk/ Has records for Harland & Wolff 1861-1987 http://www.proni.gov.uk/introduction__harland_and_wolff_d2805.pdf Apparently members of the public must submit a written request to Harland & Wolff, through PRONI for access.

In message <[email protected]m> Jaqian <[email protected]> wrote: > My g-g-grandfather Caldwell Hyndman worked in the Derry Shipyards > according to the family history. Does anyone know if its possible to > find records from the shipyards even though they're closed over 80yrs? > I want to know if its possible to check to see if he was employed > there and what dates. > I believe Belfast Public Library has a good archive on Northern Ireland ship-building, give them a call or at least have a look at their website to see what they've got. -- Graeme Wall My genealogy website <www.greywall.demon.co.uk/genealogy>

> Currently the FHL has the 1864 birth records in their database that > can be search on their website at: > http://www.familyhistory.org > Go to the search boxes on the left side of their homepage, enter full > name, life event-birth, year-1864, year range-exact year, > country-Ireland. Results will give parents' names, exact place of > birth, source (FHL film number where records are found). Using the > Index, you can get the volume and page numbers. should be: http://www.familysearch.org Sorry for the inconvenience. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

The Index is part of a two step process to find a birth record. The Index lists names and registration districts, plus the volume and page where the record is located. You can then either order it from Ireland or find it on an Family History Library film. You can get all the film numbers here: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/RegDistricts.htm Currently the FHL has the 1864 birth records in their database that can be search on their website at: http://www.familyhistory.org Go to the search boxes on the left side of their homepage, enter full name, life event-birth, year-1864, year range-exact year, country-Ireland. Results will give parents' names, exact place of birth, source (FHL film number where records are found). Using the Index, you can get the volume and page numbers. Using both resources, will help you identify the correct record before ordering it from Ireland through the General Register Office at: http://www.groireland.ie/ The IGW website is located at: http://www.irelandgenweb.com/ Please check out the whole page. We need volunteers to take over some of the county websites, to help with the Surname Registry and to help transcribe the birth index. If you would like to help, please contact me off list. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA, Ireland IGW Country Coordinator http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

>From The Cork Examiner, 7 June 1879 - THE EUSTON SQUARE MYSTERY. Hannah Dobbe, charged with the murder of Miss Hacker at Euston Square, London, was again up for examination at Bow-street Police Court yesterday. Mr. Poland for the prosecution. Mr. Meade defended. Francis Riggenbach, merchant, deposed to having lodged in Euston-square with the Bastendorffs in 1877. Has no recollection of any other lodger being there in September of that year. Peter Bastendorff said he formerly worked for his brother in the house, 4, Euston-square. Recollected when the prisoner went to service there. Kept company with her. Did not believe the prisoner wore a watch when he first knew her. She told him for a long time before that she wore one. She was going to get a watch and chain from her uncle. The watch and chain produced are not like those she wore ; her['s] had a white face, and the chain had larger links. Afterwards saw her with a smaller watch. She told me she changed the other for it. Remember the prisoner telling me she cut her finger with the lamp-glass. Never noticed a bad smell in the house. Doctors Davis, Bond, and Pepper testified to the appearance of the remains, the latter saying that the woman had suffered from inflammation in the right leg. Owing to the absence of witnesses the case was adjourned for two weeks. A number of stories are in circulation at Maidstone, Kent, respecting the visit of the Bastendorff brothers, witnesses in the Euston-square mystery case, to the neighbourhood. It seems that they were temporarily engaged hop-picking about September, 1877. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dennis Ahern | Ireland Newspaper Abstracts Acton, Massachusetts | http://www.IrelandOldNews.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

In soc.genealogy.ireland Henry Brownlee <[email protected]> wrote: :>The phrase that amuses me is "The coin was indifferently executed." I :>wonder do you need a special kind of half-hearted axe-man to carry out :>an indifferent execution? He'd still need to be pretty clever to cut :>the head off a coin :-) : JohnB, : Perhaps he lazily used an adze? Must've been personal. -dja

Transcribed from the 14 May 1822 edition of The Strabane Morning Post newspaper, by permission of The British Library: Newspapers.--On the subject of Newspapers Lord John Russell made the following statement, founded on official documents, in the House of Commons, on Thursday evening:--"In England more than 23 millions of newspapers were sold in the period of a year; of these, not less than eleven millions were daily London newspapers.--The increase of newspapers was in the following scale for England, Scotland, and Ireland:--In the year 1782 there were 52 newspapers; in 1790 there were 60, and in 1821 there were 135. In Scotland there were eight in 1782, nine in 1790, and 56 in 1821. In Ireland there were three in 1772, nine in 1790, and 56 in 1821. The London daily newspapers were nine in 1782, 14 in 1790, and 16 in 1821.--Those published once a week in 1790 amounted to 11, and in 1821 32, and in the British Islands no newspaper was published in 1790, and six were published there in 1821. The total amount of newspapers published in 1790 was 114, and in 1821, that amount was more than doubled, for 284 were in that year published." =====================

Dennis Ahern wrote: > From The Cork Examiner, 7 June 1879 - > > THE EUSTON SQUARE MYSTERY. > Hannah Dobbe, charged with the murder of Miss > Hacker at Euston Square, London, was again up for > examination at Bow-street Police Court yesterday. Mr. > Poland for the prosecution. Mr. Meade defended. > Francis Riggenbach, merchant, deposed to having > lodged in Euston-square with the Bastendorffs in 1877. > Has no recollection of any other lodger being there in > September of that year. Peter Bastendorff said he > formerly worked for his brother in the house, 4, > Euston-square. Recollected when the prisoner went to > service there. Kept company with her. Did not believe > the prisoner wore a watch when he first knew her. She > told him for a long time before that she wore one. She > was going to get a watch and chain from her uncle. The > watch and chain produced are not like those she wore ; > her['s] had a white face, and the chain had larger links. > Afterwards saw her with a smaller watch. She told me > she changed the other for it. Remember the prisoner > telling me she cut her finger with the lamp-glass. Never > noticed a bad smell in the house. Doctors Davis, Bond, > and Pepper testified to the appearance of the remains, > the latter saying that the woman had suffered from > inflammation in the right leg. Owing to the absence of > witnesses the case was adjourned for two weeks. > A number of stories are in circulation at Maidstone, > Kent, respecting the visit of the Bastendorff brothers, > witnesses in the Euston-square mystery case, to the > neighbourhood. It seems that they were temporarily > engaged hop-picking about September, 1877. > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > Dennis Ahern | Ireland Newspaper Abstracts > Acton, Massachusetts | http://www.IrelandOldNews.com > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Do we ever find out if she really did it or not???

My g-g-grandfather Caldwell Hyndman worked in the Derry Shipyards according to the family history. Does anyone know if its possible to find records from the shipyards even though they're closed over 80yrs? I want to know if its possible to check to see if he was employed there and what dates. Cheers, Rob

What a delightfully chatty off topic thread! :) Thanks all Mary Ann Please remove HAT AND COAT to reply

"Hugh Watkins" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected] > JohnB wrote: >> On 9 May, 11:00, Alison Kilpatrick <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> Transcribed from the 9 May 1828 edition of The Newry Commercial >>> Telegraph, by permission of The British Library: >>> >>> Counterfeit Coin.--On Sunday morning, a person of the name of James >>> Lynch, a pig-dealer, from the County of Roscommon, trading from this >>> port, was apprehended by our Police, in the act of making a very large >>> exportation of base coin, to be circulated in Ireland. He was seen on >>> the pierhead of George's Dock, with a small trunk, which appeared to be >>> very heavy, on his shoulder. The constables thinking there was something >>> suspicious in his appearance, searched his trunk, which was found to >>> contain a great quantity of base coin, wrapped in fourteen parcels, and >>> packed in shavings. There were 150 sovereigns, 156 half crowns, and 320 >>> shillings, making an amount of 310l. [£310] 10s. The coin was >>> indifferently executed. The man was committed on Monday for >>> trial.--Liverpool Chronicle. >>> >>> ======================= >> >> The phrase that amuses me is "The coin was indifferently executed." I >> wonder do you need a special kind of half-hearted axe-man to carry out >> an indifferent execution? He'd still need to be pretty clever to cut >> the head off a coin :-) > > is english a foreign language for you? Somehow I think John know what it means.

JohnB wrote: > On 9 May, 11:00, Alison Kilpatrick <[email protected]> > wrote: >> Transcribed from the 9 May 1828 edition of The Newry Commercial >> Telegraph, by permission of The British Library: >> >> Counterfeit Coin.--On Sunday morning, a person of the name of James >> Lynch, a pig-dealer, from the County of Roscommon, trading from this >> port, was apprehended by our Police, in the act of making a very large >> exportation of base coin, to be circulated in Ireland. He was seen on >> the pierhead of George's Dock, with a small trunk, which appeared to be >> very heavy, on his shoulder. The constables thinking there was something >> suspicious in his appearance, searched his trunk, which was found to >> contain a great quantity of base coin, wrapped in fourteen parcels, and >> packed in shavings. There were 150 sovereigns, 156 half crowns, and 320 >> shillings, making an amount of 310l. [£310] 10s. The coin was >> indifferently executed. The man was committed on Monday for >> trial.--Liverpool Chronicle. >> >> ======================= > > The phrase that amuses me is "The coin was indifferently executed." I > wonder do you need a special kind of half-hearted axe-man to carry out > an indifferent execution? He'd still need to be pretty clever to cut > the head off a coin :-) is english a foreign language for you? words change meanuing according to context ex·e·cute (e(k'si(-kyu-t') pronunciation tr.v., -cut·ed, -cut·ing, -cutes. 1. To put into effect; carry out: a government that executes the decisions of the ruling party. 2. To perform; do: execute a U-turn. See synonyms at perform. 3. To create (a work of art, for example) in accordance with a prescribed design. 4. To make valid, as by signing: execute a deed. 5. To perform or carry out what is required by: execute the terms of a will. 6. To put to death, especially by carrying out a lawful sentence. 7. Computer Science. To run (a program or an instruction). [Middle English executen, from Old French executer, from Medieval Latin execu-ta-re, from Latin execu-tor, executor, from execu-tus, past participle of exequi-, exsequi-, to pursue, carry out : ex-, ex- + sequi-, to follow.] executable ex'e·cut'a·ble adj. executer ex'e·cut'er n. http://www.answers.com/execute&r=67 3. here maybe you need to read some more books :-) Hugh W -- For genealogy and help with family and local history in Bristol and district http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Brycgstow/ http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks GENEALOGE http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG

"Hugh Watkins" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected] | is english a foreign language for you? | | words change meanuing according to context | | ex·e·cute (e(k'si(-kyu-t') pronunciation | tr.v., -cut·ed, -cut·ing, -cutes. | | 1. To put into effect; carry out: a government that executes the | decisions of the ruling party. | 2. To perform; do: execute a U-turn. See synonyms at perform. | 3. To create (a work of art, for example) in accordance with a | prescribed design. | 4. To make valid, as by signing: execute a deed. | 5. To perform or carry out what is required by: execute the terms of | a will. | 6. To put to death, especially by carrying out a lawful sentence. | 7. Computer Science. To run (a program or an instruction). | | [Middle English executen, from Old French executer, from Medieval Latin | execu-ta-re, from Latin execu-tor, executor, from execu-tus, past participle | of exequi-, exsequi-, to pursue, carry out : ex-, ex- + sequi-, to follow.] | executable ex'e·cut'a·ble adj. | executer ex'e·cut'er n. | | http://www.answers.com/execute&r=67 | | 3. here | | maybe you need to read some more books :-) | | | Hugh W A play on words, Hugh - a pun! Henry Brownlee

Names: Julian, Kerr, Tetham, Weston, Wood Transcribed from the 13 May 1823 edition of The Strabane Morning Post newspaper, by permission of The British Library: On Saturday morning Messrs. Julian and Wood, Inspectors General of the English excise[,] arrived in Cork, and proceeded to the consolidation of the respective walks and surveys in that city. The following gentlemen from the English Customs Departments are on a tour through Ireland, for the purpose of assimilating the discharge business with the practice in England:--Mr. Weston, acting land surveyor, Mr. Tetham, Inspector of the river at London, and Mr. Kerr, collector's clerk. =================

On 9 May, 11:00, Alison Kilpatrick <[email protected]> wrote: > Transcribed from the 9 May 1828 edition of The Newry Commercial > Telegraph, by permission of The British Library: > > Counterfeit Coin.--On Sunday morning, a person of the name of James > Lynch, a pig-dealer, from the County of Roscommon, trading from this > port, was apprehended by our Police, in the act of making a very large > exportation of base coin, to be circulated in Ireland. He was seen on > the pierhead of George's Dock, with a small trunk, which appeared to be > very heavy, on his shoulder. The constables thinking there was something > suspicious in his appearance, searched his trunk, which was found to > contain a great quantity of base coin, wrapped in fourteen parcels, and > packed in shavings. There were 150 sovereigns, 156 half crowns, and 320 > shillings, making an amount of 310l. [£310] 10s. The coin was > indifferently executed. The man was committed on Monday for > trial.--Liverpool Chronicle. > > ======================= The phrase that amuses me is "The coin was indifferently executed." I wonder do you need a special kind of half-hearted axe-man to carry out an indifferent execution? He'd still need to be pretty clever to cut the head off a coin :-)

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