Michael Kenefick wrote: > Yes, you are having some sort of issue. Got DSL or Cable? try > disconnecting the box for ten seconds then try again after signal > reconnect itself. I doubt that would make any difference. Vicki can post to the newsgroup, so her newsreader and modem setups are fine. The problem is that the postings aren't making it to her machine. After chatting on email with her, it seems that the problem is probably at the ISP end. John -- LOOK OUT, SPAM BLOCK AHEAD! To email me, remove ".invalid" from the email address!

John Prentice wrote: > Anne Heafield wrote: >> I have also had the same problem of no updates for 2-3 days. It always >> seems to be with my server who always has a number of excuses as to >> the reason behind the problem. I cannot pin anyone done to this and it >> is most frustrating. > > What I'd said to Vicki in email, and I'll repeat to any other > disenfranchised Aussies who're presumably reading this through Google > Groups, is - consider using a different news server provider. > > I use individual.net, who charge about AU$16/yr, and have an excellent > service. They're based in Germany, so there may be a slight lag from > Australia, but it's got to be better than no news at all, and it's not > going to break the piggy bank. > > John I use it - there's no lag at all. -- Anne Chambers, South Australia anne dot chambers at bigpond dot com

Hugh Watkins wrote: > Jeff wrote: > >> You promised us you were taking a break from this NG. > > no a break from people like you No - you said: "I am taking a holiday from SGB bye for now Hugh W" of course, with you I do understand that one needs to know whether you are sober anytime you post a message (Odds appear to be about 50/50)

Jeff wrote: > You promised us you were taking a break from this NG. no a break from people like you now I am "confined to barracks" with a diagnosis of atrial fibrillation http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3102/2553315611_ccc0fdca13_b.jpg ecg so I will be on line all day every day Hugh W

Hugh Watkins wrote: > > OR > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/AUS/GENANZ.html > > GENANZ-L > > Topic: For the discussion of Australia and New Zealand genealogy. The > oldest and most extensive mailing list for the region. Busy list. > Gatewayed with the soc.genealogy.australia+nz newsgroup. See FAQ for > more information > > browse archives to catch up > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/GENANZ/ > > > OR > http://groups.google.com/group/soc.genealogy.australia+nz/topics > > Hugh W You promised us you were taking a break from this NG.

John Prentice wrote: > Anne Heafield wrote: >> "John Prentice" <[email protected]> wrote in >> message news:[email protected] >>> Vicki Smith wrote: >>>> What is wrong? >>>> Regards >>>> Vicki Smith >>>> Geelong >>>> >>>> Have even unsubscribed and re subscribed the three groups but still >>>> no update. >>> Replied in email, since Vicki's not getting newsgroup messages. >>> >> I have also had the same problem of no updates for 2-3 days. It always >> seems to be with my server who always has a number of excuses as to >> the reason behind the problem. I cannot pin anyone done to this and it >> is most frustrating. > > What I'd said to Vicki in email, and I'll repeat to any other > disenfranchised Aussies who're presumably reading this through Google > Groups, is - consider using a different news server provider. > > I use individual.net, who charge about AU$16/yr, and have an excellent > service. They're based in Germany, so there may be a slight lag from > Australia, but it's got to be better than no news at all, and it's not > going to break the piggy bank. OR http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/AUS/GENANZ.html GENANZ-L Topic: For the discussion of Australia and New Zealand genealogy. The oldest and most extensive mailing list for the region. Busy list. Gatewayed with the soc.genealogy.australia+nz newsgroup. See FAQ for more information browse archives to catch up http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/GENANZ/ OR http://groups.google.com/group/soc.genealogy.australia+nz/topics Hugh W

What is wrong? Regards Vicki Smith Geelong Have even unsubscribed and re subscribed the three groups but still no update.

Vicki Smith wrote: > What is wrong? > Regards > Vicki Smith > Geelong > > Have even unsubscribed and re subscribed the three groups but still no > update. Your news server must have a problem. -- Anne Chambers, South Australia anne dot chambers at bigpond dot com

Anne Heafield wrote: > "John Prentice" <[email protected]> wrote in message > news:[email protected] >> Vicki Smith wrote: >>> What is wrong? >>> Regards >>> Vicki Smith >>> Geelong >>> >>> Have even unsubscribed and re subscribed the three groups but still no >>> update. >> Replied in email, since Vicki's not getting newsgroup messages. >> > I have also had the same problem of no updates for 2-3 days. It always seems > to be with my server who always has a number of excuses as to the reason > behind the problem. I cannot pin anyone done to this and it is most > frustrating. What I'd said to Vicki in email, and I'll repeat to any other disenfranchised Aussies who're presumably reading this through Google Groups, is - consider using a different news server provider. I use individual.net, who charge about AU$16/yr, and have an excellent service. They're based in Germany, so there may be a slight lag from Australia, but it's got to be better than no news at all, and it's not going to break the piggy bank. John -- LOOK OUT, SPAM BLOCK AHEAD! If you want to email me, remove ".invalid" from the email address

"John Prentice" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected] > Vicki Smith wrote: >> What is wrong? >> Regards >> Vicki Smith >> Geelong >> >> Have even unsubscribed and re subscribed the three groups but still no >> update. > > Replied in email, since Vicki's not getting newsgroup messages. > > John (from s.g.b) > -- > LOOK OUT, SPAM BLOCK AHEAD! > If you want to email me, remove ".invalid" from the email address I have also had the same problem of no updates for 2-3 days. It always seems to be with my server who always has a number of excuses as to the reason behind the problem. I cannot pin anyone done to this and it is most frustrating. Anne, Melbourne

Sue, It looks like you are referring to St. Mary's Church of Ireland, Mary Street, Dublin 1. It ceased functioning as a church in the 1970s and is now a bar. (see Vivien Igoe, "Dublin Burial Grounds & Graveyards", Dublin 2001). Records for the church go back to 1697 and are held in the Representative Church Body Library, Braemor Park, Dublin 14. (see James G. Ryan, Irish Records, USA 1997). St. Catherine's Church of Ireland, Thomas Street, Dublin 8, closed in 1966. The records (starting 1679) for this church are also found in the RCBL. Brendan "Sue J" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected] > Hi List, > > Since St. Mary's Church was sold and turned into a pub and the > surrounding property was turned into a park, does anyone know where > the church records may have gone? I would like to be able to find > early 1800s church records for baptisms, marriages and then after 1860 > or 1870, some deaths in their records. I have gone on Family Search > and checked their films and they don't have anything for St. Mary's. > My family was living on Great Britain Street (Parnell) and on the 1851 > census found on Origins, they were living in St. Mary's Parish. > Anyone have any ideas or suggestions. I would love to get records > back before 1857 when my gr. gr. grandparents got married in St. > Catherine's in Dublin. That was the bride's church. > > Sue in Florida [email protected] > > >

Vicki Smith wrote: > What is wrong? > Regards > Vicki Smith > Geelong > > Have even unsubscribed and re subscribed the three groups but still no > update. Replied in email, since Vicki's not getting newsgroup messages. John (from s.g.b) -- LOOK OUT, SPAM BLOCK AHEAD! If you want to email me, remove ".invalid" from the email address

The County Carlow website has now moved to a new location: http://www.igp-web.com/carlow/index.htm Please remember to update your Favorites and Bookmark links to the new location. The old Carlow Rootsweb website will not be receiving any new updates after this date. Kind Regards Michael Brennan Carlow IGP: http://www.igp-web.com/carlow/index.htm Home Page: http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mjbrennan/index.htm

My home town is on the Coal River, Tasmania and you would be hard pushed to find a nicer place on earth. A far cry from its ealry history. Lindy Dunster Tasmania "Alison Kilpatrick" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected] > Transcribed from the 4 June 1822 edition of The Strabane Morning > Post, by permission of The British Library: > > Transportation.--Before the restoration of Charles II. > transportation, as a punishment, was unknown in England; but after that > time, persons found guilty of offences entitled to the benefit of the > clergy, and sentenced to be imprisoned, were transported to the British > settlements in North America. They were not, however, sent away as > perpetual slaves, but bound by indentures for seven years; and for the > last three year they received wages, in order that a fund might be > provided to give them a fair chance of future success in life. When the > American revolution prevented the further transportation of convicts to > that country, in 1775, the system of confining prisoners to hard labour > on board the hulks, and houses of correction were adopted, until the > discovery of New South Wales by Capt. Cook, in 1776 and 1777, opened a > new field for transportation; the coast of Africa having been previously > explored in vain for a fit situation for a colony of criminals. The > first embarkation to this new colony, was made in Feb. 1787, and > consisted of 264 convicts: the first settlement was made at Sidney; and > another has since been formed in the adjacent island Van Diamen's land. > So prolific has this country been in crime, that in a period of less > than thirty years, the colony at Botany Bay, amounts to upwards of > twenty thousand persons, one half of whom are convicts. So large an > assemblage of men and women, many of whom are the most desperate > characters, are with difficulty kept in order; but in order to restrain > their irregularities, punishments of a summary kind are frequently > inflicted. Of these the most severe, next to that of death, is > transportation to the Coal river, which is ordered usually by the judge > advocate, or a bench of magistrates, for a term of years or for life, as > the enormity of the offence may require. Convicts dread this mode of > punishment very much, because they are compelled to work in chains from > sun-rise to sun-set, and are subject also to other restrictions of a > highly penal description. The rigour of this sentence is, however > frequently relaxed in some degree, as the criminal shews signs of > amendment; and in very few cases is it found necessary to subject any of > the convicts to a repetition of the sentence. > > ========================= >

Transcribed from the 4 June 1822 edition of The Strabane Morning Post, by permission of The British Library: Transportation.--Before the restoration of Charles II. transportation, as a punishment, was unknown in England; but after that time, persons found guilty of offences entitled to the benefit of the clergy, and sentenced to be imprisoned, were transported to the British settlements in North America. They were not, however, sent away as perpetual slaves, but bound by indentures for seven years; and for the last three year they received wages, in order that a fund might be provided to give them a fair chance of future success in life. When the American revolution prevented the further transportation of convicts to that country, in 1775, the system of confining prisoners to hard labour on board the hulks, and houses of correction were adopted, until the discovery of New South Wales by Capt. Cook, in 1776 and 1777, opened a new field for transportation; the coast of Africa having been previously explored in vain for a fit situation for a colony of criminals. The first embarkation to this new colony, was made in Feb. 1787, and consisted of 264 convicts: the first settlement was made at Sidney; and another has since been formed in the adjacent island Van Diamen's land. So prolific has this country been in crime, that in a period of less than thirty years, the colony at Botany Bay, amounts to upwards of twenty thousand persons, one half of whom are convicts. So large an assemblage of men and women, many of whom are the most desperate characters, are with difficulty kept in order; but in order to restrain their irregularities, punishments of a summary kind are frequently inflicted. Of these the most severe, next to that of death, is transportation to the Coal river, which is ordered usually by the judge advocate, or a bench of magistrates, for a term of years or for life, as the enormity of the offence may require. Convicts dread this mode of punishment very much, because they are compelled to work in chains from sun-rise to sun-set, and are subject also to other restrictions of a highly penal description. The rigour of this sentence is, however frequently relaxed in some degree, as the criminal shews signs of amendment; and in very few cases is it found necessary to subject any of the convicts to a repetition of the sentence. =========================

Ryan's "Irish Records" lists 3 St Mary's RC churches in Dublin. The earliest records are for 1734 at St Mary's, 83 Marlboro Street, Dublin. The other 2 are for 1852 and 1853. There was no non-Catholic St Mary's. Ellen -----Original Message----- From: Sue J [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, June 3, 2008 04:13 PM To: 'GEN IRELAND' Subject: Church records in Dublin Hi List, Since St. Mary's Church was sold and turned into a pub and the surrounding property was turned into a park, does anyone know where the church records may have gone? I would like to be able to find early 1800s church records for baptisms, marriages and then after 1860 or 1870, some deaths in their records. I have gone on Family Search and checked their films and they don't have anything for St. Mary's. My family was living on Great Britain Street (Parnell) and on the 1851 census found on Origins, they were living in St. Mary's Parish. Anyone have any ideas or suggestions. I would love to get records back before 1857 when my gr. gr. grandparents got married in St. Catherine's in Dublin. That was the bride's church. Sue in Florida [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi List, Since St. Mary's Church was sold and turned into a pub and the surrounding property was turned into a park, does anyone know where the church records may have gone? I would like to be able to find early 1800s church records for baptisms, marriages and then after 1860 or 1870, some deaths in their records. I have gone on Family Search and checked their films and they don't have anything for St. Mary's. My family was living on Great Britain Street (Parnell) and on the 1851 census found on Origins, they were living in St. Mary's Parish. Anyone have any ideas or suggestions. I would love to get records back before 1857 when my gr. gr. grandparents got married in St. Catherine's in Dublin. That was the bride's church. Sue in Florida [email protected]

Transcribed from the 3 June 1823 edition of The Strabane Morning Post newspaper, by permission of The British Library: Transportation under the Insurrection Act. It was impossible to witness, without the most painful reflections, the body of young and able men, who have been lately transferred from the gaol of this city to the convict ship at Cove--to atone in another hemisphere of the globe, in slavery and exile, for the wrongs committed against the laws of their native country. It is cause of sorrow to those who concern themselves with the well-being of their fellow men, and countrymen, to see public justice doomed to the necessity of making examples of so many after this way, who might have contributed impartially to the strength and welfare of their native land, had their minds been early imbued with any sense of their moral duties. The majority of those unfortunate men were but in the very morning of their days--models of strength and activity in their forms--all possessing some property--all able to provide themselves with superfluous accommodations for the voyage--and there are among them ingenious and informed, and capable of being serviceable in many useful departments of life. They went off--some with the levity which belongs to thoughtless spirits--some with affected gaiety--none with appearances of depression; but making allowances for those airs of fortitude with which men under difficulties will sometimes endeavour to disguise their inward agonies--perhaps much of this disengaged and indifferent manner is to be attributed to some very false notions that are prevalent among the humbler orders of the people, respecting the nature of the place which is appointed for their exile. They have been taught to believe that they are destined to a land of abundance and comfort; where civilization provides free employment, and where they will be permitted to follow their ordinary occupations upon conditions of advantage to their interests. The whole of this notion is founded in complete error. The convict is handed over on his arrival at the appointed place to a master, who applies for him as a slave, and with him the convict must work out his painful term of servitude in years of labour, and with no further attention to his state than is necessary to preserve life--just such food and clothing as may sustain him in health, and may render him the more equal to the discharge of the task allotted to him--his place of rest is in general in a gaol--and it is only by the most careful behaviour and exemplary good conduct that this condition of a convict can be softened in any considerable degree. Nor is the convict now transmitted to that part of New South Wales, in which, after a very long struggle with difficulties of all kinds, civilization has made some imperfect progress. Three new Settlements have been founded on another part of the coast of New Holland, the seat of the government. The names of those places are, Moreton Bay, Port Bowen, and Port Curtis. Moreton Bay is situated in 27 deg. 30 min. South Latitude; Port Curtis in 24 deg., and Port Bowen in 22 deg. 28 min., the distance of the nearest to Port Jackson is 380 miles. To one or other of those places convicts will in future be taken; and here, where nothing is found ready provided for the new comers, the convicts must work, to raise up necessary protection from the weather. The intention is, to furnish them with nails and tools, that they may be able to lodge themselves in huts of their own construction--and the bedding that will be allowed them is to consist of one rug, and a palliass filled with fern straw. The weekly allowance to each convict is not to exceed seven pounds of salt beef or mutton, or four pounds of salt pork, five pounds of wheaten flour, and five pounds of the flour of maize, and half a pound of sugar. Their dress is to consist of striped cotton shirts, duck trousers and frock, shoes and straw hats. The employment of the convicts, as soon as necessary matters be procured, is the clearing of the land--one of the most laborious tasks in which the labour of man can be employed; and thus are the years of servitude to be consumed, by all who may now suffer the sentence of transportation! Is it such a life of hopeless drudgery as this--passed on a dreary and desolate coast, in the most remote region of the Globe, that can raise pleasure or hope in the breast of man? Is it for a pittance of food, a bed of ferns, a never ceasing round of roil under a scorching sun, that a man would exchange his country--his kindred, friends, home, and liberty? Here he is a man--there he is a slave?--Cork Constitution. ========================

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Don't feel lonesome, Sue. There are many of us out here in the same situation. Mike Murphy Alexandria, VA. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue J" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 1:49 PM Subject: RE: Headstones in IGP Archives > What about those churches that were sold, the headstones removed from > cemetery, some headstones used as sidewalk in a park and others just > leaning up against the old church? I don't think I will ever find my > ancestors earlier than 1864. I don't even know where the parish > records went and there is nothing for the parish church in LDS films. > > Sue > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Christina Hunt > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 1:40 PM > To: [email protected] > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Headstones in IGP Archives > > I have added a page to index the counties with Headstones so you can > browse the > locations. If you are mainly interested in headstones - this may help. > It also shows which counties still need grave markers to start off. > http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/1headstones/index.htm > There is a link here from the main page. > Christina > Ireland Genealogy Projects Archives > http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message