Regarding the colorful exchange between Dennis & The Chief: I did check out the link, the original did not work. However, the archive did, and as ussual it is not informative as to my original request (I Mentioned the so-called "experts"). The generic information displayed was of absolutely no value. Thanks, anyway. Daniel

I am looking to locate my family. My gg grandfather was called Charles McPhillips born c 1838. I do not know which county he was born in. His father was also called Charles. Also my gg grandmother Rose Ann McGowan born c 1840. Again I do not know the county she was born in. Her father was called John. Charles and Rose Ann were married in Northumberland in England in 1866. Can anyone get me any information on these families. Thank you.

Sent the message below on Friday, and it must have gotten lost, so I try again. bob

The Chief <[email protected]> wrote: <deleted> : perhaps you didn't notice the post/thread I started on the "Meaning of : heraldic charges", which pointed our Sullivan friend to the correct : answer, to be found over on rec.heraldry in the MFAQ and FAQ. But : then you were probably too busy "contributing" to have noticed? Like most people I read posts in chronological order. If you had posted your suggestion in the earlier note, instead of simply casting aspersions on my efforts, I would have responded differently. -dja

Thanks again Denis, for the hundreth time. I had trimmed your URL back to the edu/ , Saint Mary's University of Minnesota, and searched for the article from there. After a long circuitous search I found the article. BUT you introduced me to a remarkable new site that I never knew existed, the Wayback Machine at the Internet Archive, that brought me to the article in a flash. Furthermore you introduced me to the Internet Archive site that is an interesting site to explore. Again, I can't thank you enough for all the information I have obtained from you over the decades. josephum On Aug 24, 2008, at 9:37 AM, Dennis Ahern wrote: > http://www2.smumn.edu/uasal/welcome.html

See: http://cat.spindata.com/mahony/ The O'Mahony Society [and no, I have not double checked to see if this site is still good.] -dja

The Chief <[email protected]> wrote: : On Aug 23, 7:10?am, Dennis Ahern <[email protected]> wrote: :> Daniel Sullivan <[email protected]> wrote: :> :> : Has anyone ever run across the meaning of a robin or a lizard above :> : the crest of a coat of arms? These are both depicted above the :> : Sullivan-Beare Crest. I've sent requests to various "experts" in the :> : field of Arms. However, to date, I have received no responses. :> :> See: ? ?http://www2.smumn.edu/uasal/welcome.html :> ? ? ? ? Irish Nobility, Heraldry, and Genealogy : Dennis, : You never check these links you throw out, do you? And in : any case, referring a question such as this to such a site is : misleading. : Regards, : The Chief No, I do not. I only know that at one time I had saved the link as having some value to Irish researchers. Sometimes websites die or change their address. I do not constantly monitor their status. When someone gets back to me that a link is broken I take a look and see if I can track it down. One method I use to do this is search for the old url on the Wayback Machine at the Internet Archive. There you can usually find several iterations of the missing page as it existed at various times. Given that you have expressed the opinion that this particular site is misleading, I assume you have already done this, else how could you express an opinion. In which case I would expect you to qualify that statement by explaining why the recommended site is unlikely to be of any value. Or do you just enjoy denigrating the efforts of others without contributing anything yourself? See http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www2.smumn.edu/uasal/welcome.html -dja

Has anyone researched the O'Mahony family in Dunmanway (West Cork)? -- This message was posted via http://www.stamboomforum.nl/ the Dutch social network for genealogists Please remove HAALWEG from the e-mail address if you want to reply via e-mail.

Killorglin R. C. Parish records contain baptism records for 23 Dinahy/Danahy/Denahy/Dianahy/Dannahy families. There is no one with the first name ÔPhilipÕ or ÔWilliamÕ, Likewise, there is no record of the marriage of Michael Danahy/Dinahy & Johannah Donohue/Donoghue nor of the baptism of any children of theirs. There is one Dinahy/Danahy/Denahy/Dianahy/Dannahy family in the Knockane area (the address given is variously as South Glins, Curramore, Knockane). The father is Michael; the mother is Gobnet Connor. There are baptism records for 7 children of theirs: Mary (1828), Joanna (1830), Gobnet (1832), John (1834), Michael (1836), Denis (1839), Cornelius (1841). This Michael Dennehy appears in Griffiths Valuation of Knockane, which since 1884, has been part of Beaufort parish. Killorglin death records begin in 1927. Until about 20 years ago, Dromavalla was the only cemetery in Killorglin parish. The burials here have only been documented since the mid 1950s when the new section of the cemetery was opened. People from the Knockane area would probably have been buried in Churchtown cemetery. This is in Beaufort parish. Killorglin parish baptism records are indexed from 1798 to 1917 and the marriage records are indexed from 1798 to 1946. Gaps occur in these records and the only dates for which there are indexed records are as follows: Baptisms: 1798 - 1802; 1806 - 1851; 1857 - 1860; 1881 - 1917 Marriages: 1798 - 1802; 1806 - 1850; 1884 - 1946

Don Moody wrote: > "Michael Kenefick" <[email protected]> wrote in message > news:[email protected] >> Try teranews if your ISP drops news groups. They have a free ($3.95 >> US one time registration fee) and pay accounts for heavy users / >> down loaders. >> >> https://secure.usenetbilling.com/newbilling/manageaccount.cgi?referredby=1212286099&action=Create+New+Account&vendor=teranews >> >> Mike in Ohio >> > > What is wrong with the idea of going in through Google groups? Free. > No registration. No formality. And no having to remit a fee in foreign > currency. > > In the long run, change ISP to one giving a better service. no change to best vlue for money for a fast connection get email and newsgroups from ISP independant servers so you may change ISP or travel and retain the same email addresses Hugh W

Daniel Sullivan <[email protected]> wrote: : Has anyone ever run across the meaning of a robin or a lizard above : the crest of a coat of arms? These are both depicted above the : Sullivan-Beare Crest. I've sent requests to various "experts" in the : field of Arms. However, to date, I have received no responses. See: http://www2.smumn.edu/uasal/welcome.html Irish Nobility, Heraldry, and Genealogy

In soc.genealogy.ireland Dennis Ahern <[email protected]> wrote: : From The Cork Examiner, 16 October 1861 - : All the sisters, save one, of the English Gale family, that : were burned in the Philadelphia Theatre, have died. Of the : fourteen girls that were burned all are dead but two. : Guardian. According to the Adams Sentinel of Gettysburg, PA, dated 16 October 1861, the last of the sisters, Hannah Gale, died of her burns. The sisters were ballet dancers. -dja

Council of Irish Genealogical Organisations (CIGO) Both CIGO & the Genealogical Society of Ireland (GSI) have long called for public access to the Republic's 1926 census returns. This policy is one which CIGO has been actively pursuing over the past few years. GSI recently announced the publication in the autumn of a parliamentary Bill through which it hopes access can be secured to these returns. You might also like to subscribe to CIGO's on-line petition calling for the early release of the 1926 census. You can read more about this issue here <www.cigo.ie> and sign the petition here <http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/1926C> .

Reading through your reply, I did not really understand any of what you wrote, BUT I did laugh out loud at your explanations I have O'Sullivans, too, and if they were robbers, perhaps they were, I will never know for sure, BUT, Thanks for the laugh all the same. *smile* Kate

Michael Kenefick wrote: > Your ISP may have dropped the newsgroups. While this group is not the most > active, I counted over 32 messages since the 08/07/2008. Mike > > [email protected] wrote: > > He folks. Last posting in this group was Pat Traynor's on 08/07/08. > > > > Everbody on vacation?? > > > > bob > > > > ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** Thanks folks for your postings. Guess my message kicked me back to life. No, as of now my ISP hasn't killed this group --- just ALL the binaries, plus the AT&T "internal" groups. Also thanks for the follow-up posting about where to get newsgroup service should the ISP discontinue theirs. Will print that info for possible future use. bob

"Jim Elbrecht" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected] > "Don Moody" <[email protected]> wrote: > > -snip- >>What is wrong with the idea of going in through Google groups? Free. >>No registration. No formality. And no having to remit a fee in >>foreign >>currency. > > For one, lots of folks have killfiled the whole domain because they > don't police their spammers. [by and large I'm a big Google fan- > but they completely dropped the ball with Usenet] > > Another is the ability to use a newsreader- log on when you can and > read at your pleasure even if there is no Usenet connection within > miles. > > My preference is individual.net. Has some basic filters built in > [like crosspost management]; has the most complete feed of any > service > I've used since 1995; and costs all of$15 a year.[10 Euros- paid > electronically] This and the other answers don't help the OP solve the problem of whether there have been postings to this group which he has missed. He can solve that in one visit to Google Groups and reading what it contains in s.g.i. If there is nothing since his apparent cut-off with his ISP the 'fault'; is that there is nothing. If there is something, the 'fault' is with his ISP an he needs either to gee them up into mending their ways, or change ISP. In that process he does not have to expose himself to spammers, and the 'test' doesn't cost anything. Don

This index is almost completely online. Recently added were the Ms, all 54 webpages of them; plus the Ns, Os, Us and Vs. The letters left to go online (P, R, S, T, W, Y) are all currently being worked and should go online soon. You can find the index at: http://www.irelandgenweb.com/ -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

>From The Cork Examiner, 16 October 1861 - All the sisters, save one, of the English Gale family, that were burned in the Philadelphia Theatre, have died. Of the fourteen girls that were burned all are dead but two. Guardian. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dennis Ahern | Ireland Newspaper Abstracts Acton, Massachusetts | http://www.IrelandOldNews.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Has anyone ever run across the meaning of a robin or a lizard above the crest of a coat of arms? These are both depicted above the Sullivan-Beare Crest. I've sent requests to various "experts" in the field of Arms. However, to date, I have received no responses. Daniel

"Don Moody" <[email protected]> wrote: -snip- >What is wrong with the idea of going in through Google groups? Free. >No registration. No formality. And no having to remit a fee in foreign >currency. For one, lots of folks have killfiled the whole domain because they don't police their spammers. [by and large I'm a big Google fan- but they completely dropped the ball with Usenet] Another is the ability to use a newsreader- log on when you can and read at your pleasure even if there is no Usenet connection within miles. My preference is individual.net. Has some basic filters built in [like crosspost management]; has the most complete feed of any service I've used since 1995; and costs all of$15 a year.[10 Euros- paid electronically] Jim