Sometimes it is real hard to pinpoint an exact date of an event when you are looking at a newspaper clipping. The newspaper clipping is dated Dec 8, 1930 It says that the John Doe died Thursday. Now the trick is to find out what day Thursday was. Just go to this handy-dandy web-site: http://www.calendarhome.com/tyc/ It has a 10,000 year calendar - perfect for pinpointing that the Thursday before Dec 8, 1930 was Dec 4! Now isn't that easier than just "guessing" or trying to figure in your head? That leaves your head for more important thoughts - like - who are John's kids and where is he buried? Was he the one who married Freda or Jane? Sally Rolls Pavia Sun City, AZ [email protected] List Owner: [email protected] "Without genealogy, the study of history is lifeless." All incoming and outgoing email checked by Norton Anti-Virus 2002