Eric, I think MH imputes data, and it appears their algorithm needs some tweaking. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 28, 2017, at 7:41 AM, Eric S Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > I haven't sent a spit kit in to MyHeritage; all nine of my MyHeritage kits are copied there from other platforms' spit kits. > So. > > It's pretty consistent, for me, that MyHeritage reports segments which none of the other four see. > > But, that's why I ask. > Maybe MyHeritage is reporting to me small yet triangulated segments. (The math doesn't add up, but that's just my math; maybe I'm wrong.) > > In MyHeritage's early DNA days, I would get matches which literally didn't exist on any of the other platforms. > Now, the other platforms agree there's a match, and usually the "largest HIR" corresponds--but the other platforms simply don't see anything else (whatever else MyHeritage is seeing). > Sometimes MyHeritage reports only one HIR (thus agreeing with the other platforms). But often it reports 3, 4, 5, HIRs. > Hmmm. > > Best, > Eric > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: GENEALOGY-DNA [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of Andreas West >> Sent: August 28, 2017 20.32 >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [DNA] MyHeritage >> >> Hi Eric, >> >> Well, you have to look what is compared, in all fairness. >> >> If it's a v2 23andMe you compare with an Ancestry or ftdna test at Gedmatch >> you won't get all matching segments due to the little overlapping markers. >> >> If MyHeritage compares two tests from their own testing chip then they >> should indeed have no problem identifying correct segments. >> >> But you are not the first one reporting such fishy results from MyHeritage. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Speaking of MyHeritage - I DNA tested there and uploaded my robust Tree there. I have a list of DNA Matches (most with no or very small Trees; Trees of any size are difficult to scan for Common Ancestors). I have lists of many people who share one of my ancestors. Is there anything that links these? A DNA match with Common Ancestry; or people who share a Common Ancestor with some clue as to whether they DNA tested - and/or match. It's like needles in two different haystacks. Help? Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 28, 2017, at 9:42 AM, Jim Bartlett <[email protected]> wrote: > > Eric, > I think MH imputes data, and it appears their algorithm needs some tweaking. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 28, 2017, at 7:41 AM, Eric S Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I haven't sent a spit kit in to MyHeritage; all nine of my MyHeritage kits are copied there from other platforms' spit kits. >> So. >> >> It's pretty consistent, for me, that MyHeritage reports segments which none of the other four see. >> >> But, that's why I ask. >> Maybe MyHeritage is reporting to me small yet triangulated segments. (The math doesn't add up, but that's just my math; maybe I'm wrong.) >> >> In MyHeritage's early DNA days, I would get matches which literally didn't exist on any of the other platforms. >> Now, the other platforms agree there's a match, and usually the "largest HIR" corresponds--but the other platforms simply don't see anything else (whatever else MyHeritage is seeing). >> Sometimes MyHeritage reports only one HIR (thus agreeing with the other platforms). But often it reports 3, 4, 5, HIRs. >> Hmmm. >> >> Best, >> Eric

Dear Jim, I have been encouraging all of my family's matches who have tested only at MyHeritage to upload to GEDmatch so that I can see the matching segment data. MyHeritage has promised that they will be providing a chromosome browser, but that hasn't happened yet. We won't be able to put people who have tested only at MyHeritage into triangulated groups until MyHeritage provides a chromosome browser, people upload to GEDmatch or people test at 23andMe or Family Finder. Sincerely, Tim Janzen -----Original Message----- From: GENEALOGY-DNA [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim Bartlett Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 12:53 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DNA] MyHeritage Speaking of MyHeritage - I DNA tested there and uploaded my robust Tree there. I have a list of DNA Matches (most with no or very small Trees; Trees of any size are difficult to scan for Common Ancestors). I have lists of many people who share one of my ancestors. Is there anything that links these? A DNA match with Common Ancestry; or people who share a Common Ancestor with some clue as to whether they DNA tested - and/or match. It's like needles in two different haystacks. Help?

Thanks, Tim, I've found a few "H" kits at GEDmatch; and I've recognized a few MH Matches that are also DNA Matches at 22andMe or FTDNA. But it's slim pickins. I'm getting some good genealogy info at MH; but virtually zero help on the genetic side. At AncestryDNA, I press for upload to GEDmatch - I now have 468 AncestryDNA Matches linked to GEDmatch kits - and 200 of them have Common Ancestors. I have over 2,000 other "A" kits from GEDmatch in my spreadsheet (over 7.0cM), that I cannot link to AncestryDNA kits - I'm working hard on those because they often have valuable Hints, Trees, Circles or Shared Matches. So much data, so little time... Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 28, 2017, at 4:46 PM, Tim Janzen <[email protected]> wrote: > > Dear Jim, > I have been encouraging all of my family's matches who have tested > only at MyHeritage to upload to GEDmatch so that I can see the matching > segment data. MyHeritage has promised that they will be providing a > chromosome browser, but that hasn't happened yet. We won't be able to put > people who have tested only at MyHeritage into triangulated groups until > MyHeritage provides a chromosome browser, people upload to GEDmatch or > people test at 23andMe or Family Finder. > Sincerely, > Tim Janzen > > -----Original Message----- > From: GENEALOGY-DNA [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Jim Bartlett > Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 12:53 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [DNA] MyHeritage > > Speaking of MyHeritage - I DNA tested there and uploaded my robust Tree > there. I have a list of DNA Matches (most with no or very small Trees; Trees > of any size are difficult to scan for Common Ancestors). I have lists of > many people who share one of my ancestors. Is there anything that links > these? A DNA match with Common Ancestry; or people who share a Common > Ancestor with some clue as to whether they DNA tested - and/or match. It's > like needles in two different haystacks. Help? > >

Jim >>Trees of any size are difficult to scan for Common Ancestors).<< You probably know this, but some other readers may not. Admittedly it's not a quick scan, but at least if you "view match" MyHeritage shows you side by side the surnames you and they share with more detail, and gives you a pedigree view of their tree - if they have more than one person in it anyway And now also an ICW list with details on how each of you match the ICW - totals only of course, not segment data The pedigree view and chromosome browser were both promised at RootsTech in Feb. The pedigree view only just arrived recently, and they are still saying a cb is coming, so one day...... Don't think they've ever promised a download match list option, or a sort by most recent, although they are both on their request list from me - hope more of you also have requested both! I do find that I can sometimes pick up tree data from there that is missing on the other sites. Lorna Henderson http://LornaHen.com On 29/08/17 09:45, Jim Bartlett wrote: > Thanks, Tim, > > I've found a few "H" kits at GEDmatch; and I've recognized a few MH Matches that are also DNA Matches at 22andMe or FTDNA. But it's slim pickins. I'm getting some good genealogy info at MH; but virtually zero help on the genetic side. > At AncestryDNA, I press for upload to GEDmatch - I now have 468 AncestryDNA Matches linked to GEDmatch kits - and 200 of them have Common Ancestors. I have over 2,000 other "A" kits from GEDmatch in my spreadsheet (over 7.0cM), that I cannot link to AncestryDNA kits - I'm working hard on those because they often have valuable Hints, Trees, Circles or Shared Matches. So much data, so little time... > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 28, 2017, at 4:46 PM, Tim Janzen <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Dear Jim, >> I have been encouraging all of my family's matches who have tested >> only at MyHeritage to upload to GEDmatch so that I can see the matching >> segment data. MyHeritage has promised that they will be providing a >> chromosome browser, but that hasn't happened yet. We won't be able to put >> people who have tested only at MyHeritage into triangulated groups until >> MyHeritage provides a chromosome browser, people upload to GEDmatch or >> people test at 23andMe or Family Finder. >> Sincerely, >> Tim Janzen >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: GENEALOGY-DNA [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >> Jim Bartlett >> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 12:53 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [DNA] MyHeritage >> >> Speaking of MyHeritage - I DNA tested there and uploaded my robust Tree >> there. I have a list of DNA Matches (most with no or very small Trees; Trees >> of any size are difficult to scan for Common Ancestors). I have lists of >> many people who share one of my ancestors. Is there anything that links >> these? A DNA match with Common Ancestry; or people who share a Common >> Ancestor with some clue as to whether they DNA tested - and/or match. It's >> like needles in two different haystacks. Help? >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Lorna Thanks - how do we access the pedigree view? Jim Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 28, 2017, at 6:12 PM, LornaMoa <[email protected]> wrote: > > Jim > >>Trees of any size are difficult to scan for Common Ancestors).<< > > You probably know this, but some other readers may not. > > Admittedly it's not a quick scan, but at least if you "view match" MyHeritage shows you side by side the surnames you and they share with more detail, and gives you a pedigree view of their tree - if they have more than one person in it anyway > And now also an ICW list with details on how each of you match the ICW - totals only of course, not segment data > > > The pedigree view and chromosome browser were both promised at RootsTech in Feb. The pedigree view only just arrived recently, and they are still saying a cb is coming, so one day...... > Don't think they've ever promised a download match list option, or a sort by most recent, although they are both on their request list from me - hope more of you also have requested both! > > I do find that I can sometimes pick up tree data from there that is missing on the other sites. > > Lorna Henderson > http://LornaHen.com > >> On 29/08/17 09:45, Jim Bartlett wrote: >> Thanks, Tim, >> >> I've found a few "H" kits at GEDmatch; and I've recognized a few MH Matches that are also DNA Matches at 22andMe or FTDNA. But it's slim pickins. I'm getting some good genealogy info at MH; but virtually zero help on the genetic side. >> At AncestryDNA, I press for upload to GEDmatch - I now have 468 AncestryDNA Matches linked to GEDmatch kits - and 200 of them have Common Ancestors. I have over 2,000 other "A" kits from GEDmatch in my spreadsheet (over 7.0cM), that I cannot link to AncestryDNA kits - I'm working hard on those because they often have valuable Hints, Trees, Circles or Shared Matches. So much data, so little time... >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Aug 28, 2017, at 4:46 PM, Tim Janzen <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Dear Jim, >>> I have been encouraging all of my family's matches who have tested >>> only at MyHeritage to upload to GEDmatch so that I can see the matching >>> segment data. MyHeritage has promised that they will be providing a >>> chromosome browser, but that hasn't happened yet. We won't be able to put >>> people who have tested only at MyHeritage into triangulated groups until >>> MyHeritage provides a chromosome browser, people upload to GEDmatch or >>> people test at 23andMe or Family Finder. >>> Sincerely, >>> Tim Janzen >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: GENEALOGY-DNA [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >>> Jim Bartlett >>> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 12:53 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [DNA] MyHeritage >>> >>> Speaking of MyHeritage - I DNA tested there and uploaded my robust Tree >>> there. I have a list of DNA Matches (most with no or very small Trees; Trees >>> of any size are difficult to scan for Common Ancestors). I have lists of >>> many people who share one of my ancestors. Is there anything that links >>> these? A DNA match with Common Ancestry; or people who share a Common >>> Ancestor with some clue as to whether they DNA tested - and/or match. It's >>> like needles in two different haystacks. Help? >>> >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message