John, I now have over 4,100 Matches at FTDNA - each with at least one segment over 7.9cM and an email. My objective is chromosome mapping to 1) validate 40 years of genealogy research; 2) determine any NPEs; and 3) figure out which ancestors to blame for each of my genes (it's just a little humor now, but someday, for me and my family, it might be very important). Any - for my objectives, there is no other testing company that comes close to what I want. I've been a subscriber to Ancestry since way before atDNA, and I still use it every day for research. But for segments - FTDNA is the place to be - IMO. It took some work, but every one of my FTDNA segments (over 7cM) is now in a maternal or paternal Triangulated Group (or culled out as IBC) Jim Bartlett [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: jlerch1 <[email protected]> To: genealogy-dna <[email protected]> Sent: Fri, Nov 3, 2017 11:17 am Subject: [DNA] Family Finder's tremendous inadequacies WAS:Re: Question about 23 and me test The only way Family Finder is easier is that all of what are YESes and NOs on 23's "You have {N} Relatives in common with..." are lumped together; and you can't tell which are analogous to 23's YESes or 23's NOs without 1 by one going through the chromosome browser. And even then you can't corroborate them because of FTDNA's algorithm which gives too much weight to short segments. FTDNA's ONLY virtues are 1) storage for 25 years 2) ability to have explicit yDNA and mtDNA tests. Their operating system for the matches is so inadequate I seldom go there. John L L Britton wrote Subject: Re: [DNA] Question about 23 and me test Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Thank you, Ann and Lorna. I'll probably wait to see what Family Tree does before I make a decision. As I recall, FTDNA's sale usually starts the Monday before Thanksgiving. Except for Mt-DNA information which might prove useful, Family Finder comparisons would be easier.