The new tool has some quirks though, especially visible when you have a larger group of triangulated members. It seems to copy over the combinations of matching pairs (of DNA cousins) as some of the DNA cousins have smaller matching segments (than the overall TG). It gets quite confusing and convulates the spreadsheet a lot. BTW, seems the FTDNA page can’t handle the additional traffic anymore. The site is currently not responding for me (might be better if you’re based in the US) Andreas Andreas West Meine Vorfahren / my ancestors (8 generations): http://www.wikitree.com/treewidget/Basso-23/5 <http://www.wikitree.com/treewidget/Basso-23/5> Author of https://www.dnagenealogy.tools <https://www.dnagenealogy.tools/> Follow us on Facebook for latest updates on our progress - https://www.facebook.com/dnagenealogy.tools/ <https://www.facebook.com/dnagenealogy.tools/> > On Oct24, 2017, at 21:49, John McCoy <[email protected]> wrote: > > The test we want to see from the new tool is not the confirmation of a known triangulation group. Rather, we want to see what happens when the two sides who appear to share a segment actually don’t match each other, because one is a paternal cousin and the other a maternal cousin. If the new tool can correctly determine that those two sides do not match each other, then the tool does in fact have access to the missing third side. > > John McCoy > ([email protected]) > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Oct 24, 2017, at 6:32 AM, Andreas West <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi Jim, >> >> Working on that now that someone has found what we were not able to find despite a lot of time spend on FTDNA ;-) >> >> This was the missing piece that hold us back from pushing FTDNA forward (as before we were dependant on our shared matches to give us this crucial information). And yes, tried it out myself and can confirm what Jim posted that it reflects TG’s that I had already from other services. Expect more news on our Facebook page. >> >> Andreas >> >> Andreas West >> Meine Vorfahren / my ancestors (8 generations): http://www.wikitree.com/treewidget/Basso-23/5 <http://www.wikitree.com/treewidget/Basso-23/5> >> Author of https://www.dnagenealogy.tools <https://www.dnagenealogy.tools/> >> >> Follow us on Facebook for latest updates on our progress - https://www.facebook.com/dnagenealogy.tools/ <https://www.facebook.com/dnagenealogy.tools/> >> >>> On Oct24, 2017, at 21:25, Jim Bartlett <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Now, if we could just turn it on at night and wake up with all TGs formed.... >>> >>> Jim Bartlett - atDNA blog: www.segmentology.org >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear All, It is nice to have a new tool, but the method I have been using for the past 7 years is still working very well for me and is much more efficient in my opinion. I download all the matching HIR for my parents and me and then organize the matching HIR data into which HIRs are shared with me and which ones I don't have. This is a very quick and effective way of creating triangulated groups (at least for all HIRs over 15 cMs or so). Caution must be used for this method when evaluating shorter HIRs, particularly HIRs shorter than 10 cMs, since some of those will be false matches. I still think that we should all keep encouraging FTDNA to allow us to compare our matches directly to each other in Family Finder like we can at 23andMe and at GEDmatch. Sincerely, Tim Janzen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andreas West" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 7:43:53 AM Subject: Re: [DNA] Where is the 3rd side? (Was: New FTDNA Triangulation tool The new tool has some quirks though, especially visible when you have a larger group of triangulated members. It seems to copy over the combinations of matching pairs (of DNA cousins) as some of the DNA cousins have smaller matching segments (than the overall TG). It gets quite confusing and convulates the spreadsheet a lot. BTW, seems the FTDNA page can’t handle the additional traffic anymore. The site is currently not responding for me (might be better if you’re based in the US) Andreas