Doug, Recalculation of the database may not cause as much delay as other factors, some beyond FTDNA's control. A major or complete rethink of the user page(s?) and Project STR displays come to mind. External to FTDNA is ISOGG and treatment of out-of-haplogroup known SNPs. For FTDNA's customers, such are effectively "novel SNPs", inheritable, and so relevant to recent tree structure and dating. kb On 9/15/17, McDonald, J Douglas <[email protected]> wrote: > Bennett has replied, they are working on it. > > This is NOT an easy problem. > > It likely will require a complete recalculate for the entire database. > That's just my opinion. > > Doug McDonald > > > -----Original Message----- > From: GENEALOGY-DNA [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > McDonald, J Douglas > Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 9:56 AM > To: Wesley Johnston; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [DNA] BigY Analysis Apparent Contradiction (thus probably my > misunderstanding?) > > Because FTDNA is **CLUELESS**!!!! > > I have reported this three times now, last week in the most obnoxious terms. > > If nothing comes back by next Friday I will send an email to Bennett > Greenspan's > PERSONAL email (which I should have stored up). > > You CANNOT understand a BigY using just their data page. ITS IMPOSSIBLE. > **Files done at different times use different criteria!** > > You need at least the BED and VCF files. > > Easiest is to send to YFull, but this costs money. > > I analyze by computer programs of my own divising. I can share these, but > people trying use them seem not to .. they are indeed a bit arcane. BUT ... > they work. > > The results are typified by the charts at Clan Donald, > > https://clandonaldusa.org/index.php/dna-layout/13-dna-project/85-dna-bigy > > The charts themselves are generated by Alex Williamson's code, but the data > file > is generated (mostly) by mine. The R1a one has a few critical markers > (CLFY1, CLD50, CLD56, CLD57, L175) inserted by hand. > > > It would be interesting to hear here how other projects do it. > > Doug McDonald > > -----Original Message----- > From: GENEALOGY-DNA [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Wesley Johnston > Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 10:01 PM > To: DNA Genealogy Mailing List > Subject: [DNA] BigY Analysis Apparent Contradiction (thus probably my > misunderstanding?) > > I am trying to figure out some way to evaluate matches of our family's BigY > testers. > The matching kits tab in FTDNA ranks the matches by Known SNP Difference > (low to high). There is also a column for Shared Novel Variants (sorted high > to low within each Known SNP Difference). > So I have one kit where I go to the Novel Variants tab, and I see that there > are 11 novel variants. Then I go back to the Matching tab, and I see that > there are kits listed under the Shared Novel Variants column that have 146, > 139, 142 shared novel variants. > If my family member has only 11 novel variants under the Novel Variants tab, > how can he share 146 novel variants with someone on the Matching tab? > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I just hope that FTDNA will continue to provide the same data files to group admins as they do now. They can add more, but I need the info in SIX of them for the Clan Donald project. They are used automatically by computer programs. Otherwise the job would be impossible to do as well as now ... we'd just have to punt. These are, from the Download Files entry in the right column, Received_Lab_Results...csv, YDNA_Results_Classic...csv, and YDNA_SNP_Report...csv >From the center column, Family_Finder_Results_Illumina...xml and from the left column Member_Information...xml and Paternal Ancestry.html (NOT .xml). I have to parse the xml and html to get all the data .. other formats don't have it all. Doug McDonald -----Original Message----- From: GENEALOGY-DNA [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Keith Britton Doug, Recalculation of the database may not cause as much delay as other factors, some beyond FTDNA's control. A major or complete rethink of the user page(s?) and Project STR displays come to mind. External to FTDNA is ISOGG and treatment of out-of-haplogroup known SNPs. For FTDNA's customers, such are effectively "novel SNPs", inheritable, and so relevant to recent tree structure and dating.