AncestryDNA will post Hints up to 8th cousins. I now have over 700 Hints, and I send a standard message to all urging an upload to GEDmatch, with my promise to report back to them my analysis of what I can decipher from the segment info. Hundreds have uploaded! And I am finding that 3C to 8C Hints are lining up on some segments - not all, but some - and it's growing every day. I add info in the Notes field in each case, starting with the Ahnentafel number of the Common Ancestor (a great sort of the download). Including non-Hint Matches, there are over 1,000 - many with segment data. All show up as little page icons in Shared Matches, which often gives a very quick indication of where to look in the Trees of non-Hint Matches. Acknowledged that a high percentage of AncestryDNA Matches have no, or very small, or Private Trees. Even so, I can encourage some of those Matches when our SMs clearly point to a CA. And there are, of course, many more Matches, with segment data, from FTDNA and 23andMe (and hopefully soon from MyHeritage) that are all in play through Triangulated Groups. I think we can "walk the Ancestors back" with some confidence to most of the 1700s. Jim Bartlett - atDNA blog: www.segmentology.org > On Sep 1, 2017, at 2:02 AM, Tim Janzen <[email protected]> wrote: > > I agree with Jim on this. I think that we are going to have a tough time > linking phased autosomal segments to ancestors born prior to 1500. If we > were test every living person, get all their genealogies, and as well as > successfully test ancestors who have been buried in marked graves then we > would have a shot at linking some phased autosomal segments to ancestors > born prior to 1500. However, I don't think that this is very realistic. > The relatively easy ground to cover is shared ancestors in the 1800s. > Confirming shared ancestors in the 1700s and 1600s is going to be really > tough due to a lack of genealogical records in many areas. Confirming > relationships in the 1750 to 1800 time period is the next frontier for > autosomal genetic genealogy from my standpoint. > Sincerely, > Tim Janzen > > -----Original Message----- > From: GENEALOGY-DNA [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Jim Bartlett > Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 11:13 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [DNA] Every person project > > I'd say no, IMO! Because of all the endogamy involved. Without some > genealogical records, we could never sort it out. > > Jim Bartlett - atDNA blog: www.segmentology.org >

The enormous number of matches is what makes me think that we can actually walk the ancestors back to the 1500s *if* we can carefully separate the lines. Even with endogamy, it seems that you could separate the families on the "right" of that ancestor from the ones on the "left" with matches who descend from one side versus the other. It's clear that some segments are preferentially descending on certain cousin-lines. The main situation now is that so many people have puny trees which makes us have to do their work for them to make the connection. -----Original Message----- From: Jim Bartlett <[email protected]> To: genealogy-dna <[email protected]> Sent: Fri, Sep 1, 2017 6:00 am Subject: Re: [DNA] Every person project AncestryDNA will post Hints up to 8th cousins. I now have over 700 Hints, and I send a standard message to all urging an upload to GEDmatch, with my promise to report back to them my analysis of what I can decipher from the segment info. Hundreds have uploaded! And I am finding that 3C to 8C Hints are lining up on some segments - not all, but some - and it's growing every day. I add info in the Notes field in each case, starting with the Ahnentafel number of the Common Ancestor (a great sort of the download). Including non-Hint Matches, there are over 1,000 - many with segment data. All show up as little page icons in Shared Matches, which often gives a very quick indication of where to look in the Trees of non-Hint Matches. Acknowledged that a high percentage of AncestryDNA Matches have no, or very small, or Private Trees. Even so, I can encourage some of those Matches when our SMs clearly point to a CA. And there are, of course, many more Matches, with segment data, from FTDNA and 23andMe (and hopefully soon from MyHeritage) that are all in play through Triangulated Groups. I think we can "walk the Ancestors back" with some confidence to most of the 1700s. Jim Bartlett - atDNA blog: www.segmentology.org > On Sep 1, 2017, at 2:02 AM, Tim Janzen <[email protected]> wrote: > > I agree with Jim on this. I think that we are going to have a tough time > linking phased autosomal segments to ancestors born prior to 1500. If we > were test every living person, get all their genealogies, and as well as > successfully test ancestors who have been buried in marked graves then we > would have a shot at linking some phased autosomal segments to ancestors > born prior to 1500. However, I don't think that this is very realistic. > The relatively easy ground to cover is shared ancestors in the 1800s. > Confirming shared ancestors in the 1700s and 1600s is going to be really > tough due to a lack of genealogical records in many areas. Confirming > relationships in the 1750 to 1800 time period is the next frontier for > autosomal genetic genealogy from my standpoint. > Sincerely, > Tim Janzen > > -----Original Message----- > From: GENEALOGY-DNA [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Jim Bartlett > Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 11:13 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [DNA] Every person project > > I'd say no, IMO! Because of all the endogamy involved. Without some > genealogical records, we could never sort it out. > > Jim Bartlett - atDNA blog: www.segmentology.org > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message