Jim, since you have had such good luck with your matches uploading to Gedmatch, would you mind sharing the verbiage of your standard message to them? And when you say 700 hints- do you mean shared ancestor hints? LeeAnn On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 9:00 AM, Jim Bartlett <[email protected]> wrote: > AncestryDNA will post Hints up to 8th cousins. I now have over 700 Hints, > and I send a standard message to all urging an upload to GEDmatch, with my > promise to report back to them my analysis of what I can decipher from the > segment info. Hundreds have uploaded! And I am finding that 3C to 8C Hints > are lining up on some segments - not all, but some - and it's growing every > day. I add info in the Notes field in each case, starting with the > Ahnentafel number of the Common Ancestor (a great sort of the download). > Including non-Hint Matches, there are over 1,000 - many with segment data. > All show up as little page icons in Shared Matches, which often gives a > very quick indication of where to look in the Trees of non-Hint Matches. > > Acknowledged that a high percentage of AncestryDNA Matches have no, or > very small, or Private Trees. Even so, I can encourage some of those > Matches when our SMs clearly point to a CA. > > And there are, of course, many more Matches, with segment data, from FTDNA > and 23andMe (and hopefully soon from MyHeritage) that are all in play > through Triangulated Groups. > > I think we can "walk the Ancestors back" with some confidence to most of > the 1700s. > > Jim Bartlett - atDNA blog: www.segmentology.org > > > On Sep 1, 2017, at 2:02 AM, Tim Janzen <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I agree with Jim on this. I think that we are going to have a tough time > > linking phased autosomal segments to ancestors born prior to 1500. If we > > were test every living person, get all their genealogies, and as well as > > successfully test ancestors who have been buried in marked graves then we > > would have a shot at linking some phased autosomal segments to ancestors > > born prior to 1500. However, I don't think that this is very realistic. > > The relatively easy ground to cover is shared ancestors in the 1800s. > > Confirming shared ancestors in the 1700s and 1600s is going to be really > > tough due to a lack of genealogical records in many areas. Confirming > > relationships in the 1750 to 1800 time period is the next frontier for > > autosomal genetic genealogy from my standpoint. > > Sincerely, > > Tim Janzen > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: GENEALOGY-DNA [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of > > Jim Bartlett > > Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 11:13 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [DNA] Every person project > > > > I'd say no, IMO! Because of all the endogamy involved. Without some > > genealogical records, we could never sort it out. > > > > Jim Bartlett - atDNA blog: www.segmentology.org > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

You are doing a lot better than I am. I would say that less than 5% of the people I ask to join gedmatch actually do it. On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 9:08 AM, LeeAnn Stebbins <[email protected]> wrote: > Jim, since you have had such good luck with your matches uploading to > Gedmatch, would you mind sharing the verbiage of your standard message to > them? And when you say 700 hints- do you mean shared ancestor hints? > > LeeAnn > > On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 9:00 AM, Jim Bartlett <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > AncestryDNA will post Hints up to 8th cousins. I now have over 700 Hints, > > and I send a standard message to all urging an upload to GEDmatch, with > my > > promise to report back to them my analysis of what I can decipher from > the > > segment info. Hundreds have uploaded! And I am finding that 3C to 8C > Hints > > are lining up on some segments - not all, but some - and it's growing > every > > day. I add info in the Notes field in each case, starting with the > > Ahnentafel number of the Common Ancestor (a great sort of the download). > > Including non-Hint Matches, there are over 1,000 - many with segment > data. > > All show up as little page icons in Shared Matches, which often gives a > > very quick indication of where to look in the Trees of non-Hint Matches. > > > > Acknowledged that a high percentage of AncestryDNA Matches have no, or > > very small, or Private Trees. Even so, I can encourage some of those > > Matches when our SMs clearly point to a CA. > > > > And there are, of course, many more Matches, with segment data, from > FTDNA > > and 23andMe (and hopefully soon from MyHeritage) that are all in play > > through Triangulated Groups. > > > > I think we can "walk the Ancestors back" with some confidence to most of > > the 1700s. > > > > Jim Bartlett - atDNA blog: www.segmentology.org > > > > > On Sep 1, 2017, at 2:02 AM, Tim Janzen <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > I agree with Jim on this. I think that we are going to have a tough > time > > > linking phased autosomal segments to ancestors born prior to 1500. If > we > > > were test every living person, get all their genealogies, and as well > as > > > successfully test ancestors who have been buried in marked graves then > we > > > would have a shot at linking some phased autosomal segments to > ancestors > > > born prior to 1500. However, I don't think that this is very > realistic. > > > The relatively easy ground to cover is shared ancestors in the 1800s. > > > Confirming shared ancestors in the 1700s and 1600s is going to be > really > > > tough due to a lack of genealogical records in many areas. Confirming > > > relationships in the 1750 to 1800 time period is the next frontier for > > > autosomal genetic genealogy from my standpoint. > > > Sincerely, > > > Tim Janzen > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: GENEALOGY-DNA [mailto:[email protected]] On > > Behalf Of > > > Jim Bartlett > > > Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 11:13 AM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: [DNA] Every person project > > > > > > I'd say no, IMO! Because of all the endogamy involved. Without some > > > genealogical records, we could never sort it out. > > > > > > Jim Bartlett - atDNA blog: www.segmentology.org > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Sam 5% is probably normal. I just keep pestering them every few months. -----Original Message----- From: Sam Sloan <[email protected]> To: genealogy-dna <[email protected]> Sent: Fri, Sep 1, 2017 6:48 am Subject: Re: [DNA] Every person project You are doing a lot better than I am. I would say that less than 5% of the people I ask to join gedmatch actually do it. On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 9:08 AM, LeeAnn Stebbins <[email protected]> wrote: > Jim, since you have had such good luck with your matches uploading to > Gedmatch, would you mind sharing the verbiage of your standard message to > them? And when you say 700 hints- do you mean shared ancestor hints? > > LeeAnn > > On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 9:00 AM, Jim Bartlett <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > AncestryDNA will post Hints up to 8th cousins. I now have over 700 Hints, > > and I send a standard message to all urging an upload to GEDmatch, with > my > > promise to report back to them my analysis of what I can decipher from > the > > segment info. Hundreds have uploaded! And I am finding that 3C to 8C > Hints > > are lining up on some segments - not all, but some - and it's growing > every > > day. I add info in the Notes field in each case, starting with the > > Ahnentafel number of the Common Ancestor (a great sort of the download). > > Including non-Hint Matches, there are over 1,000 - many with segment > data. > > All show up as little page icons in Shared Matches, which often gives a > > very quick indication of where to look in the Trees of non-Hint Matches. > > > > Acknowledged that a high percentage of AncestryDNA Matches have no, or > > very small, or Private Trees. Even so, I can encourage some of those > > Matches when our SMs clearly point to a CA. > > > > And there are, of course, many more Matches, with segment data, from > FTDNA > > and 23andMe (and hopefully soon from MyHeritage) that are all in play > > through Triangulated Groups. > > > > I think we can "walk the Ancestors back" with some confidence to most of > > the 1700s. > > > > Jim Bartlett - atDNA blog: www.segmentology.org > > > > > On Sep 1, 2017, at 2:02 AM, Tim Janzen <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > I agree with Jim on this. I think that we are going to have a tough > time > > > linking phased autosomal segments to ancestors born prior to 1500. If > we > > > were test every living person, get all their genealogies, and as well > as > > > successfully test ancestors who have been buried in marked graves then > we > > > would have a shot at linking some phased autosomal segments to > ancestors > > > born prior to 1500. However, I don't think that this is very > realistic. > > > The relatively easy ground to cover is shared ancestors in the 1800s. > > > Confirming shared ancestors in the 1700s and 1600s is going to be > really > > > tough due to a lack of genealogical records in many areas. Confirming > > > relationships in the 1750 to 1800 time period is the next frontier for > > > autosomal genetic genealogy from my standpoint. > > > Sincerely, > > > Tim Janzen > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: GENEALOGY-DNA [mailto:[email protected]] On > > Behalf Of > > > Jim Bartlett > > > Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 11:13 AM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: [DNA] Every person project > > > > > > I'd say no, IMO! Because of all the endogamy involved. Without some > > > genealogical records, we could never sort it out. > > > > > > Jim Bartlett - atDNA blog: www.segmentology.org > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

LeeAnn, When I can get to my PC, I'll post my message. By Hints, I mean that I have 700 AncestryDNA Matches with green leaf Hints. I have almost 2,000 of what AncestryDNA calls 4th cousins or closer (which are mostly 5C and 6C) - these are the only Matches you'll see in any Shared Matches list. So even your 8C Matches may have some 4C, or closer, Shared Matches. Thank goodness there's not a quiz on this;>j Jim Bartlett - atDNA blog: www.segmentology.org > On Sep 1, 2017, at 9:08 AM, LeeAnn Stebbins <[email protected]> wrote: > > Jim, since you have had such good luck with your matches uploading to > Gedmatch, would you mind sharing the verbiage of your standard message to > them? And when you say 700 hints- do you mean shared ancestor hints? > > LeeAnn > > On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 9:00 AM, Jim Bartlett <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> AncestryDNA will post Hints up to 8th cousins. I now have over 700 Hints, >> and I send a standard message to all urging an upload to GEDmatch, with my >> promise to report back to them my analysis of what I can decipher from the >> segment info. Hundreds have uploaded! And I am finding that 3C to 8C Hints >> are lining up on some segments - not all, but some - and it's growing every >> day. I add info in the Notes field in each case, starting with the >> Ahnentafel number of the Common Ancestor (a great sort of the download). >> Including non-Hint Matches, there are over 1,000 - many with segment data. >> All show up as little page icons in Shared Matches, which often gives a >> very quick indication of where to look in the Trees of non-Hint Matches. >> >> Acknowledged that a high percentage of AncestryDNA Matches have no, or >> very small, or Private Trees. Even so, I can encourage some of those >> Matches when our SMs clearly point to a CA. >> >> And there are, of course, many more Matches, with segment data, from FTDNA >> and 23andMe (and hopefully soon from MyHeritage) that are all in play >> through Triangulated Groups. >> >> I think we can "walk the Ancestors back" with some confidence to most of >> the 1700s. >> >> Jim Bartlett - atDNA blog: www.segmentology.org >> >>> On Sep 1, 2017, at 2:02 AM, Tim Janzen <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I agree with Jim on this. I think that we are going to have a tough time >>> linking phased autosomal segments to ancestors born prior to 1500. If we >>> were test every living person, get all their genealogies, and as well as >>> successfully test ancestors who have been buried in marked graves then we >>> would have a shot at linking some phased autosomal segments to ancestors >>> born prior to 1500. However, I don't think that this is very realistic. >>> The relatively easy ground to cover is shared ancestors in the 1800s. >>> Confirming shared ancestors in the 1700s and 1600s is going to be really >>> tough due to a lack of genealogical records in many areas. Confirming >>> relationships in the 1750 to 1800 time period is the next frontier for >>> autosomal genetic genealogy from my standpoint. >>> Sincerely, >>> Tim Janzen >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: GENEALOGY-DNA [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of >>> Jim Bartlett >>> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 11:13 AM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [DNA] Every person project >>> >>> I'd say no, IMO! Because of all the endogamy involved. Without some >>> genealogical records, we could never sort it out. >>> >>> Jim Bartlett - atDNA blog: www.segmentology.org

...Thank goodness there's not a quiz on this;>j Isn't that the truth!???? On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 11:19 AM, Jim Bartlett <[email protected]> wrote: > LeeAnn, > > When I can get to my PC, I'll post my message. By Hints, I mean that I > have 700 AncestryDNA Matches with green leaf Hints. I have almost 2,000 of > what AncestryDNA calls 4th cousins or closer (which are mostly 5C and 6C) - > these are the only Matches you'll see in any Shared Matches list. So even > your 8C Matches may have some 4C, or closer, Shared Matches. Thank goodness > there's not a quiz on this;>j > > Jim Bartlett - atDNA blog: www.segmentology.org > > > On Sep 1, 2017, at 9:08 AM, LeeAnn Stebbins <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > Jim, since you have had such good luck with your matches uploading to > > Gedmatch, would you mind sharing the verbiage of your standard message to > > them? And when you say 700 hints- do you mean shared ancestor hints? > > > > LeeAnn > > > > On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 9:00 AM, Jim Bartlett <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > >> AncestryDNA will post Hints up to 8th cousins. I now have over 700 > Hints, > >> and I send a standard message to all urging an upload to GEDmatch, with > my > >> promise to report back to them my analysis of what I can decipher from > the > >> segment info. Hundreds have uploaded! And I am finding that 3C to 8C > Hints > >> are lining up on some segments - not all, but some - and it's growing > every > >> day. I add info in the Notes field in each case, starting with the > >> Ahnentafel number of the Common Ancestor (a great sort of the download). > >> Including non-Hint Matches, there are over 1,000 - many with segment > data. > >> All show up as little page icons in Shared Matches, which often gives a > >> very quick indication of where to look in the Trees of non-Hint Matches. > >> > >> Acknowledged that a high percentage of AncestryDNA Matches have no, or > >> very small, or Private Trees. Even so, I can encourage some of those > >> Matches when our SMs clearly point to a CA. > >> > >> And there are, of course, many more Matches, with segment data, from > FTDNA > >> and 23andMe (and hopefully soon from MyHeritage) that are all in play > >> through Triangulated Groups. > >> > >> I think we can "walk the Ancestors back" with some confidence to most of > >> the 1700s. > >> > >> Jim Bartlett - atDNA blog: www.segmentology.org > >> > >>> On Sep 1, 2017, at 2:02 AM, Tim Janzen <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>> I agree with Jim on this. I think that we are going to have a tough > time > >>> linking phased autosomal segments to ancestors born prior to 1500. If > we > >>> were test every living person, get all their genealogies, and as well > as > >>> successfully test ancestors who have been buried in marked graves then > we > >>> would have a shot at linking some phased autosomal segments to > ancestors > >>> born prior to 1500. However, I don't think that this is very > realistic. > >>> The relatively easy ground to cover is shared ancestors in the 1800s. > >>> Confirming shared ancestors in the 1700s and 1600s is going to be > really > >>> tough due to a lack of genealogical records in many areas. Confirming > >>> relationships in the 1750 to 1800 time period is the next frontier for > >>> autosomal genetic genealogy from my standpoint. > >>> Sincerely, > >>> Tim Janzen > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: GENEALOGY-DNA [mailto:[email protected]] On > >> Behalf Of > >>> Jim Bartlett > >>> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 11:13 AM > >>> To: [email protected] > >>> Subject: Re: [DNA] Every person project > >>> > >>> I'd say no, IMO! Because of all the endogamy involved. Without some > >>> genealogical records, we could never sort it out. > >>> > >>> Jim Bartlett - atDNA blog: www.segmentology.org > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >