Wjhonson That's between you. your conscience, and hopefully the person whose DNA you are sharing, I was merely spelling out what the "rules" are. Lorna Henderson http://LornaHen.com On 24/11/18 11:38, Wjhonson wrote: > Actually you can. > You set up a new gmail account, link it, add the gedmatch number and > you're done > > That WikiTree interprets certain laws in the most ridiculous way > possible, doesn't stop me > > > -----Original Message----- > From: LornaMoa <lornamoa@gmail.com> > To: genealogy-dna <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com>; rowantreek > <rowantreek@gmail.com> > Cc: Wjhonson <wjhonson@aol.com> > Sent: Fri, Nov 23, 2018 2:26 pm > Subject: Re: [DNA] Re: Linking DNA > > wjhonson, > On WikiTree only the living person, signed in as themselves can attach > DNA to their profile. > Once it is attached WT will however propagate links on the profile > throughout the 8 degrees of separation around the tree as connected (or > subsequently amended). > It is the latter part that needs people to check, collaborate and ensure > the tree is accurate. > But even so, a DNA link on a profile is just an indication that there > may be someone out there who has tested who holds DNA information to aid > the accuracy of the tree, it doesn't mean that they've inherited the > right bits of DNA for whatever it is you are trying to prove. > > Karen, > The FTDNA tree shown on your DNA test profile is yours, able to be > shared to view (where all living other than yourself are privatised, and > I think depending on your privacy settings also those born within 100 > years but deceased) > BUT not able to be editted by other than you. > What you are doing by linking a close DNA match to your tree is showing > _yourself_ where you believe they "fit" AND utilising FTDNA's phased > matching routines to allocate them and their matches to the > paternal/maternal buckets, which is a very useful feature, but of course > only as good as _your_ research/tree. > It is only worth doing this for up to actual (not predicted 2-4th which > we all agree can be wildly optimistic as a prediction) 2nd cousins, with > some 3rd cousin exceptions who share enough DNA with you, for the > phasing routines to actually work. Linking in more distant cousins who > share smaller amounts of DNA with you will not add to the > Paternal/Maternal buckets in my experience. > > For Ancestry and MyHeritage, where trees form part of their package > regardless of DNA, it is your choice how much control you keep over your > own tree and what you allow others to do to it. > Any DNA linking can only be done by the person managing the DNA kit, and > only to trees they have permission to edit. > > Lorna Henderson > http://LornaHen.com > > On 24/11/18 09:57, Wjhonson via GENEALOGY-DNA wrote: > > You can link the gedmatch kit of someone in wiki tree without their > permission > > > > Sent from AOL Mobile Mail > > Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com > >  On Friday, November 23, 2018, Karen Hodges <rowantreek@gmail.com > <mailto:rowantreek@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > I agree. > > > > Both parties have to agree the relationship is correct before it is > used to > > sort other matches in common  into a paternal or maternal bucket. > > > > Unless the owner of the site gives permission to have their tree > altered. > > This is up to the individual to not invite a person to their tree [or > > restrict what others can do when visiting their site] if you don't > believe > > they used the same level of research(source proving) as yourselves. > If you > > don't invite someone to fill in your tree ,you need to do it yourself by > > exchanging information and checking it is right, then enter it to your > > tree, and link the dna. Good old genealogy done right. > > > > I can't see that the other companies allow people to link DNA but > they can > > create trees that have the same people in and link the tree to their > dna. > > Can anyone confirm if this is the case with ancestry and my heritage? > > Thank you for all the comments > > > > Karen > > > > On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 3:37 AM Wjhonson via GENEALOGY-DNA < > > genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com <mailto:genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com>> wrote: > > > >>    It isn't that you are linking their *tree* to your *tree*What > you are > >> doing is linking their DNA test to your tree.Doing that doesn't > automatilly > >> import their tree into your tree or anything like that > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Carol Anne <clkonfetti@gmail.com <mailto:clkonfetti@gmail.com>> > >> To: genealogy-dna <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > <mailto:genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com>> > >> Sent: Thu, Nov 22, 2018 6:14 pm > >> Subject: [DNA] Re: Linking DNA > >> > >> Personally, I think you should have to have the permission of the tree > >> owner to link anything. I don't like people adding things to my tree > >> as most people are extremely bad genealogists - actually not > >> genealogists - just tree copiers. I've spent 20 years gathering > >> primary documents. Why should people be able to link to my tree or > >> alter information in it without discussion? I'm not saying my tree > >> might not have errors. Everyone makes mistakes. Anyone who copies > >> anything from any online tree or any book should be aware that they > >> could have errors, but most people don't seem to be. But I don't want > >> people wildly adding errors without so much as a by-your-leave or > >> discussion. > >> On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 4:24 PM Wjhonson via GENEALOGY-DNA > >> <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com <mailto:genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com>> wrote: > >>>    At FTDNA you can link your relatives DNA to your tree without > the need > >> for them to do anything.You are the one doing all the linking > >>> Wikitree also has this > >>> > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: Karen Hodges <rowantreek@gmail.com > <mailto:rowantreek@gmail.com>> > >>> To: genealogy-dna <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > <mailto:genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com>> > >>> Sent: Thu, Nov 22, 2018 1:21 pm > >>> Subject: [DNA] Linking DNA > >>> > >>> With family tree DNA you can link your DNA in your tree with relatives > >> who > >>> link their DNA in their tree to you. Do any of the other major testing > >>> companies have this feature? > >>> > >>> Karen > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > >>> Unsubscribe > >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > >>> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > >>> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > >>> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb > >> community > > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > >>> Unsubscribe > >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > >>> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > >>> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > >>> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb > >> community > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > >> Unsubscribe > >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > >> community > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > >> Unsubscribe > >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > >> community > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community >

Actually you can.You set up a new gmail account, link it, add the gedmatch number and you're done That WikiTree interprets certain laws in the most ridiculous way possible, doesn't stop me -----Original Message----- From: LornaMoa <lornamoa@gmail.com> To: genealogy-dna <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com>; rowantreek <rowantreek@gmail.com> Cc: Wjhonson <wjhonson@aol.com> Sent: Fri, Nov 23, 2018 2:26 pm Subject: Re: [DNA] Re: Linking DNA wjhonson, On WikiTree only the living person, signed in as themselves can attach DNA to their profile. Once it is attached WT will however propagate links on the profile throughout the 8 degrees of separation around the tree as connected (or subsequently amended). It is the latter part that needs people to check, collaborate and ensure the tree is accurate. But even so, a DNA link on a profile is just an indication that there may be someone out there who has tested who holds DNA information to aid the accuracy of the tree, it doesn't mean that they've inherited the right bits of DNA for whatever it is you are trying to prove. Karen, The FTDNA tree shown on your DNA test profile is yours, able to be shared to view (where all living other than yourself are privatised, and I think depending on your privacy settings also those born within 100 years but deceased) BUT not able to be editted by other than you. What you are doing by linking a close DNA match to your tree is showing _yourself_ where you believe they "fit" AND utilising FTDNA's phased matching routines to allocate them and their matches to the paternal/maternal buckets, which is a very useful feature, but of course only as good as _your_ research/tree. It is only worth doing this for up to actual (not predicted 2-4th which we all agree can be wildly optimistic as a prediction) 2nd cousins, with some 3rd cousin exceptions who share enough DNA with you, for the phasing routines to actually work. Linking in more distant cousins who share smaller amounts of DNA with you will not add to the Paternal/Maternal buckets in my experience. For Ancestry and MyHeritage, where trees form part of their package regardless of DNA, it is your choice how much control you keep over your own tree and what you allow others to do to it. Any DNA linking can only be done by the person managing the DNA kit, and only to trees they have permission to edit. Lorna Henderson http://LornaHen.com On 24/11/18 09:57, Wjhonson via GENEALOGY-DNA wrote: > You can link the gedmatch kit of someone in wiki tree without their permission > > Sent from AOL Mobile Mail > Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com >  On Friday, November 23, 2018, Karen Hodges <rowantreek@gmail.com> wrote: > > I agree. > > Both parties have to agree the relationship is correct before it is used to > sort other matches in common  into a paternal or maternal bucket. > > Unless the owner of the site gives permission to have their tree altered. > This is up to the individual to not invite a person to their tree [or > restrict what others can do when visiting their site] if you don't believe > they used the same level of research(source proving) as yourselves. If you > don't invite someone to fill in your tree ,you need to do it yourself by > exchanging information and checking it is right, then enter it to your > tree, and link the dna. Good old genealogy done right. > > I can't see that the other companies allow people to link DNA but they can > create trees that have the same people in and link the tree to their dna. > Can anyone confirm if this is the case with ancestry and my heritage? > Thank you for all the comments > > Karen > > On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 3:37 AM Wjhonson via GENEALOGY-DNA < > genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > >>    It isn't that you are linking their *tree* to your *tree*What you are >> doing is linking their DNA test to your tree.Doing that doesn't automatilly >> import their tree into your tree or anything like that >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Carol Anne <clkonfetti@gmail.com> >> To: genealogy-dna <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thu, Nov 22, 2018 6:14 pm >> Subject: [DNA] Re: Linking DNA >> >> Personally, I think you should have to have the permission of the tree >> owner to link anything. I don't like people adding things to my tree >> as most people are extremely bad genealogists - actually not >> genealogists - just tree copiers. I've spent 20 years gathering >> primary documents. Why should people be able to link to my tree or >> alter information in it without discussion? I'm not saying my tree >> might not have errors. Everyone makes mistakes. Anyone who copies >> anything from any online tree or any book should be aware that they >> could have errors, but most people don't seem to be. But I don't want >> people wildly adding errors without so much as a by-your-leave or >> discussion. >> On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 4:24 PM Wjhonson via GENEALOGY-DNA >> <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: >>>    At FTDNA you can link your relatives DNA to your tree without the need >> for them to do anything.You are the one doing all the linking >>> Wikitree also has this >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Karen Hodges <rowantreek@gmail.com> >>> To: genealogy-dna <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Thu, Nov 22, 2018 1:21 pm >>> Subject: [DNA] Linking DNA >>> >>> With family tree DNA you can link your DNA in your tree with relatives >> who >>> link their DNA in their tree to you. Do any of the other major testing >>> companies have this feature? >>> >>> Karen >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >>> Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com >>> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >>> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >>> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> community >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >>> Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com >>> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >>> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >>> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> community >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> community >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> community >> > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community