At FTDNA you can link your relatives DNA to your tree without the need for them to do anything.You are the one doing all the linking Wikitree also has this -----Original Message----- From: Karen Hodges <rowantreek@gmail.com> To: genealogy-dna <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thu, Nov 22, 2018 1:21 pm Subject: [DNA] Linking DNA With family tree DNA you can link your DNA in your tree with relatives who link their DNA in their tree to you. Do any of the other major testing companies have this feature? Karen _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Personally, I think you should have to have the permission of the tree owner to link anything. I don't like people adding things to my tree as most people are extremely bad genealogists - actually not genealogists - just tree copiers. I've spent 20 years gathering primary documents. Why should people be able to link to my tree or alter information in it without discussion? I'm not saying my tree might not have errors. Everyone makes mistakes. Anyone who copies anything from any online tree or any book should be aware that they could have errors, but most people don't seem to be. But I don't want people wildly adding errors without so much as a by-your-leave or discussion. On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 4:24 PM Wjhonson via GENEALOGY-DNA <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > At FTDNA you can link your relatives DNA to your tree without the need for them to do anything.You are the one doing all the linking > Wikitree also has this > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Karen Hodges <rowantreek@gmail.com> > To: genealogy-dna <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thu, Nov 22, 2018 1:21 pm > Subject: [DNA] Linking DNA > > With family tree DNA you can link your DNA in your tree with relatives who > link their DNA in their tree to you. Do any of the other major testing > companies have this feature? > > Karen > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hello Carol This is precisely why I will never have a tree on Ancestry. There are dozens of trees with my paternal line information just copied and copied and copied from one tree to another. Pre the internet it was easy to make a mistake because there was limited information out there to be had. Family information can be passed down orally but if it is based on the wrong ancestor (with the same surname) then the error can be perpetuated ad infinitum. This too, is precisely why DNA testing and matching is so important. When primary documents are unavailable or conflicting; DNA can be used to set the record straight; even if there is a book sitting in the National Library with unsupported incorrect ancestry information about ones family; perhaps one day it will be acknowledged the inclusion of my family in it was an error. Cheers Rhonda -----Original Message----- From: Carol Anne <clkonfetti@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, 23 November 2018 1:14 PM To: genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com Subject: [DNA] Re: Linking DNA Personally, I think you should have to have the permission of the tree owner to link anything. I don't like people adding things to my tree as most people are extremely bad genealogists - actually not genealogists - just tree copiers. I've spent 20 years gathering primary documents. Why should people be able to link to my tree or alter information in it without discussion? I'm not saying my tree might not have errors. Everyone makes mistakes. Anyone who copies anything from any online tree or any book should be aware that they could have errors, but most people don't seem to be. But I don't want people wildly adding errors without so much as a by-your-leave or discussion. On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 4:24 PM Wjhonson via GENEALOGY-DNA <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > At FTDNA you can link your relatives DNA to your tree without the > need for them to do anything.You are the one doing all the linking > Wikitree also has this > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Karen Hodges <rowantreek@gmail.com> > To: genealogy-dna <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thu, Nov 22, 2018 1:21 pm > Subject: [DNA] Linking DNA > > With family tree DNA you can link your DNA in your tree with relatives > who link their DNA in their tree to you. Do any of the other major > testing companies have this feature? > > Karen > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Autosomal DNA testing does not lie and is not incorrect, though it is very difficult to work with beyond close relatives. The problem is attaching DNA to trees full of errors. If you have two DNA matches, both with the same erroneous copied info in their trees, they will attribute their segment of shared DNA to a person who is actually not an ancestor of either of them. You might say, "So what? They deserve it." But DNA companies are talking about doing the same thing, using the trees people have attached to their DNA to tell their customers what ancestors the shared DNA came from and build trees for them. DNA could be a wonderful tool, but it's being used to create an absolute mess and add to the chaos created by people who copy trees blindly. I wonder what percentage of trees online are filled with errors due to copying. Ancestry encourages this. I was trying to create a tree for a DNA match last week and Ancestry kept offering me hints and a potential father. It was crazy because the man would have had to be a bigamist to have been begetting children with one wife in MO and another in GA at the same time. It's possible today, but in the 1850s it would have been impossible for a farmer to keep running back and forth like that. Apparently so many people have copied that info into their tree that Ancestry tries very hard to get everyone to do the same with their hints. My conclusion was that they were two different men. I never succeeded in finding the true father of the man in MO, which was what I was trying to do. I think I know who his father was, but no proof, Certainly no descendants of this man who copy the info Ancestry offers them will ever know who his real father was. It would be great if a DNA company could hire professional genealogists to create a world family tree based on documents only and attach DNA matches to it only when they submitted sufficient documentation that they were a descendant of that person. Then we would really have something useful! Carol On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 10:38 PM Rhonda Flowers <rwflowers@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > Hello Carol > > This is precisely why I will never have a tree on Ancestry. There are dozens > of trees with my paternal line information just copied and copied and copied > from one tree to another. Pre the internet it was easy to make a mistake > because there was limited information out there to be had. Family > information can be passed down orally but if it is based on the wrong > ancestor (with the same surname) then the error can be perpetuated ad > infinitum. > > This too, is precisely why DNA testing and matching is so important. When > primary documents are unavailable or conflicting; DNA can be used to set the > record straight; even if there is a book sitting in the National Library > with unsupported incorrect ancestry information about ones family; perhaps > one day it will be acknowledged the inclusion of my family in it was an > error. > Cheers > Rhonda > > -----Original Message----- > From: Carol Anne <clkonfetti@gmail.com> > Sent: Friday, 23 November 2018 1:14 PM > To: genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Subject: [DNA] Re: Linking DNA > > Personally, I think you should have to have the permission of the tree owner > to link anything. I don't like people adding things to my tree as most > people are extremely bad genealogists - actually not genealogists - just > tree copiers. I've spent 20 years gathering primary documents. Why should > people be able to link to my tree or alter information in it without > discussion? I'm not saying my tree might not have errors. Everyone makes > mistakes. Anyone who copies anything from any online tree or any book should > be aware that they could have errors, but most people don't seem to be. But > I don't want people wildly adding errors without so much as a by-your-leave > or discussion. > On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 4:24 PM Wjhonson via GENEALOGY-DNA > <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > > At FTDNA you can link your relatives DNA to your tree without the > > need for them to do anything.You are the one doing all the linking > > Wikitree also has this > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Karen Hodges <rowantreek@gmail.com> > > To: genealogy-dna <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thu, Nov 22, 2018 1:21 pm > > Subject: [DNA] Linking DNA > > > > With family tree DNA you can link your DNA in your tree with relatives > > who link their DNA in their tree to you. Do any of the other major > > testing companies have this feature? > > > > Karen > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > > RootsWeb community > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > > RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is > funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

It’s a good idea but who’s willing to pay for those professional genealogists? It’s not in the interest of Ancestry or any other company to add cost with no benefit for them. Andreas Andreas West Meine Vorfahren / my ancestors (8 generations): http://www.wikitree.com/treewidget/Basso-23/5 Author of https://www.yourDNA.family Follow us on Facebook for latest updates on our progress - https://www.facebook.com/yourDNAfamily/ > On 23 Nov 2018, at 13:52, Carol Anne <clkonfetti@gmail.com> wrote: > > Autosomal DNA testing does not lie and is not incorrect, though it is > very difficult to work with beyond close relatives. The problem is > attaching DNA to trees full of errors. If you have two DNA matches, > both with the same erroneous copied info in their trees, they will > attribute their segment of shared DNA to a person who is actually not > an ancestor of either of them. > > You might say, "So what? They deserve it." But DNA companies are > talking about doing the same thing, using the trees people have > attached to their DNA to tell their customers what ancestors the > shared DNA came from and build trees for them. DNA could be a > wonderful tool, but it's being used to create an absolute mess and add > to the chaos created by people who copy trees blindly. I wonder what > percentage of trees online are filled with errors due to copying. > > Ancestry encourages this. I was trying to create a tree for a DNA > match last week and Ancestry kept offering me hints and a potential > father. It was crazy because the man would have had to be a bigamist > to have been begetting children with one wife in MO and another in GA > at the same time. It's possible today, but in the 1850s it would have > been impossible for a farmer to keep running back and forth like that. > Apparently so many people have copied that info into their tree that > Ancestry tries very hard to get everyone to do the same with their > hints. My conclusion was that they were two different men. I never > succeeded in finding the true father of the man in MO, which was what > I was trying to do. I think I know who his father was, but no proof, > Certainly no descendants of this man who copy the info Ancestry offers > them will ever know who his real father was. > > It would be great if a DNA company could hire professional > genealogists to create a world family tree based on documents only and > attach DNA matches to it only when they submitted sufficient > documentation that they were a descendant of that person. Then we > would really have something useful! > > Carol > On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 10:38 PM Rhonda Flowers > <rwflowers@optusnet.com.au> wrote: >> >> Hello Carol >> >> This is precisely why I will never have a tree on Ancestry. There are dozens >> of trees with my paternal line information just copied and copied and copied >> from one tree to another. Pre the internet it was easy to make a mistake >> because there was limited information out there to be had. Family >> information can be passed down orally but if it is based on the wrong >> ancestor (with the same surname) then the error can be perpetuated ad >> infinitum. >> >> This too, is precisely why DNA testing and matching is so important. When >> primary documents are unavailable or conflicting; DNA can be used to set the >> record straight; even if there is a book sitting in the National Library >> with unsupported incorrect ancestry information about ones family; perhaps >> one day it will be acknowledged the inclusion of my family in it was an >> error. >> Cheers >> Rhonda >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Carol Anne <clkonfetti@gmail.com> >> Sent: Friday, 23 November 2018 1:14 PM >> To: genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [DNA] Re: Linking DNA >> >> Personally, I think you should have to have the permission of the tree owner >> to link anything. I don't like people adding things to my tree as most >> people are extremely bad genealogists - actually not genealogists - just >> tree copiers. I've spent 20 years gathering primary documents. Why should >> people be able to link to my tree or alter information in it without >> discussion? I'm not saying my tree might not have errors. Everyone makes >> mistakes. Anyone who copies anything from any online tree or any book should >> be aware that they could have errors, but most people don't seem to be. But >> I don't want people wildly adding errors without so much as a by-your-leave >> or discussion. >> On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 4:24 PM Wjhonson via GENEALOGY-DNA >> <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: >>> >>> At FTDNA you can link your relatives DNA to your tree without the >>> need for them to do anything.You are the one doing all the linking >>> Wikitree also has this >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Karen Hodges <rowantreek@gmail.com> >>> To: genealogy-dna <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Thu, Nov 22, 2018 1:21 pm >>> Subject: [DNA] Linking DNA >>> >>> With family tree DNA you can link your DNA in your tree with relatives >>> who link their DNA in their tree to you. Do any of the other major >>> testing companies have this feature? >>> >>> Karen >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe >>> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com >>> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >>> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >>> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal >>> RootsWeb community >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe >>> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com >>> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >>> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >>> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal >>> RootsWeb community >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is >> funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

The company would have to charge a subscription fee to view the tree and use that money to pay the genealogists. Anybody could purchase a subscription whether they had their DNA tested or not. It's just a dream. I can't see anybody ever doing it. I'd rather have no connections made without documentary proof. No preponderance of evidence or whatever. Have individuals unconnected when there is no proof. Let people decide for themselves when they make their own trees. Eventually DNA might solve some of the problems if everything is accurate. False trees are going to yield false DNA conclusions. Carol Anne On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 4:37 AM Andreas West <ahnen@awest.de> wrote: > > It’s a good idea but who’s willing to pay for those professional genealogists? It’s not in the interest of Ancestry or any other company to add cost with no benefit for them. > > Andreas > > Andreas West > Meine Vorfahren / my ancestors (8 generations): http://www.wikitree.com/treewidget/Basso-23/5 > > Author of https://www.yourDNA.family > > Follow us on Facebook for latest updates on our progress - https://www.facebook.com/yourDNAfamily/ > > > On 23 Nov 2018, at 13:52, Carol Anne <clkonfetti@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Autosomal DNA testing does not lie and is not incorrect, though it is > > very difficult to work with beyond close relatives. The problem is > > attaching DNA to trees full of errors. If you have two DNA matches, > > both with the same erroneous copied info in their trees, they will > > attribute their segment of shared DNA to a person who is actually not > > an ancestor of either of them. > > > > You might say, "So what? They deserve it." But DNA companies are > > talking about doing the same thing, using the trees people have > > attached to their DNA to tell their customers what ancestors the > > shared DNA came from and build trees for them. DNA could be a > > wonderful tool, but it's being used to create an absolute mess and add > > to the chaos created by people who copy trees blindly. I wonder what > > percentage of trees online are filled with errors due to copying. > > > > Ancestry encourages this. I was trying to create a tree for a DNA > > match last week and Ancestry kept offering me hints and a potential > > father. It was crazy because the man would have had to be a bigamist > > to have been begetting children with one wife in MO and another in GA > > at the same time. It's possible today, but in the 1850s it would have > > been impossible for a farmer to keep running back and forth like that. > > Apparently so many people have copied that info into their tree that > > Ancestry tries very hard to get everyone to do the same with their > > hints. My conclusion was that they were two different men. I never > > succeeded in finding the true father of the man in MO, which was what > > I was trying to do. I think I know who his father was, but no proof, > > Certainly no descendants of this man who copy the info Ancestry offers > > them will ever know who his real father was. > > > > It would be great if a DNA company could hire professional > > genealogists to create a world family tree based on documents only and > > attach DNA matches to it only when they submitted sufficient > > documentation that they were a descendant of that person. Then we > > would really have something useful! > > > > Carol

Carol, you are so right, and you made your point even clearer with the example. I once put a tree on Ancestry and others edited in some wrong information. The tree is still there, with my family name in its title, but with the errors it not only gives wrong information but reflects badly on our carefully documented research. I wish I could delete the whole tree. Joan -----Original Message----- From: Carol Anne [mailto:clkonfetti@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 12:53 AM To: genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com Subject: [DNA] Re: Linking DNA Autosomal DNA testing does not lie and is not incorrect, though it is very difficult to work with beyond close relatives. The problem is attaching DNA to trees full of errors. If you have two DNA matches, both with the same erroneous copied info in their trees, they will attribute their segment of shared DNA to a person who is actually not an ancestor of either of them. You might say, "So what? They deserve it." But DNA companies are talking about doing the same thing, using the trees people have attached to their DNA to tell their customers what ancestors the shared DNA came from and build trees for them. DNA could be a wonderful tool, but it's being used to create an absolute mess and add to the chaos created by people who copy trees blindly. I wonder what percentage of trees online are filled with errors due to copying. Ancestry encourages this. I was trying to create a tree for a DNA match last week and Ancestry kept offering me hints and a potential father. It was crazy because the man would have had to be a bigamist to have been begetting children with one wife in MO and another in GA at the same time. It's possible today, but in the 1850s it would have been impossible for a farmer to keep running back and forth like that. Apparently so many people have copied that info into their tree that Ancestry tries very hard to get everyone to do the same with their hints. My conclusion was that they were two different men. I never succeeded in finding the true father of the man in MO, which was what I was trying to do. I think I know who his father was, but no proof, Certainly no descendants of this man who copy the info Ancestry offers them will ever know who his real father was. It would be great if a DNA company could hire professional genealogists to create a world family tree based on documents only and attach DNA matches to it only when they submitted sufficient documentation that they were a descendant of that person. Then we would really have something useful! Carol On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 10:38 PM Rhonda Flowers <rwflowers@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > Hello Carol > > This is precisely why I will never have a tree on Ancestry. There are dozens > of trees with my paternal line information just copied and copied and copied > from one tree to another. Pre the internet it was easy to make a mistake > because there was limited information out there to be had. Family > information can be passed down orally but if it is based on the wrong > ancestor (with the same surname) then the error can be perpetuated ad > infinitum. > > This too, is precisely why DNA testing and matching is so important. When > primary documents are unavailable or conflicting; DNA can be used to set the > record straight; even if there is a book sitting in the National Library > with unsupported incorrect ancestry information about ones family; perhaps > one day it will be acknowledged the inclusion of my family in it was an > error. > Cheers > Rhonda > > -----Original Message----- > From: Carol Anne <clkonfetti@gmail.com> > Sent: Friday, 23 November 2018 1:14 PM > To: genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Subject: [DNA] Re: Linking DNA > > Personally, I think you should have to have the permission of the tree owner > to link anything. I don't like people adding things to my tree as most > people are extremely bad genealogists - actually not genealogists - just > tree copiers. I've spent 20 years gathering primary documents. Why should > people be able to link to my tree or alter information in it without > discussion? I'm not saying my tree might not have errors. Everyone makes > mistakes. Anyone who copies anything from any online tree or any book should > be aware that they could have errors, but most people don't seem to be. But > I don't want people wildly adding errors without so much as a by-your-leave > or discussion. > On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 4:24 PM Wjhonson via GENEALOGY-DNA > <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > > At FTDNA you can link your relatives DNA to your tree without the > > need for them to do anything.You are the one doing all the linking > > Wikitree also has this > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Karen Hodges <rowantreek@gmail.com> > > To: genealogy-dna <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thu, Nov 22, 2018 1:21 pm > > Subject: [DNA] Linking DNA > > > > With family tree DNA you can link your DNA in your tree with relatives > > who link their DNA in their tree to you. Do any of the other major > > testing companies have this feature? > > > > Karen > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > > RootsWeb community > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > > RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is > funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

I agree with everything that has been said about the choices for posting your research on-line, except for one. I have been researching my ancestors for 24 years, and except for my own website, never posted any of my research on-line with any company or organization. I have known about and used the resources and trees on familysearch.org, but until recently I have not posted any information there. About 7 years ago, Family Search completely redid their family tree application.  Now, there is only ONE tree and everyone posts their information to that tree.  Every family has a monitor who can accept or reject the information posted by you and others. Mostly they monitor to see that the posts do not contain offensive or inappropriate information. When there are differences on facts, they research the issue and remove the incorrect information.  You can Watch each person you post and correct and challenge incorrect changes.  The monitor evaluates the situation and corrects the issue.  Adding sources and family information is very easy. I have been posting my research one person at a time, which some may not want to do, but I prefer it.  The Familt Search Family Tree staff have built a skeleton tree using information from census records and other original source documentation, usually with two sources.  When you find a skeleton entry for your ancestor, you just add your sources and information to the record.  Duplicate entries can be merged.  When you add a person you automatically go through a process to see if they are already there, before you create a new person. I could probably go on forever with praise for this application, but I won't bore you, try it you might like it. You will not have to worry about your research being lost.  I am sure that when Our World Comes to an end, the Family History Library will build a rocket to send our family history into space. AND, FOLKS, IT IS ENTIRELY FREE.  You do have to register to use the tree, but that is an administrative requirement. Marleen Van Horne

Not to forget their mobile and tablet app. They have improved them so much that I believe they are head and shoulders above any other Ancestry app on the market. Again, all for free (for us, members of the church pay for all of this). All what you have summed up below Marleen makes FamilySearch our preferred website that our app will work with when it comes to retrieve and update family tree information (as we combine DNA and family tree information to confirm ancestors). Their API is great to work with as a developer and they constantly improve their API, website and apps! Disclaimer: I’m not affiliated with the LDS other than being an user/contributor of their FamilySearch website. Andreas West Meine Vorfahren / my ancestors (8 generations): http://www.wikitree.com/treewidget/Basso-23/5 Author of https://www.yourDNA.family Follow us on Facebook for latest updates on our progress - https://www.facebook.com/yourDNAfamily/ > On 24 Nov 2018, at 02:10, Marleen Van Horne <msvnhrn@jps.net> wrote: > > I agree with everything that has been said about the choices for posting your research on-line, except for one. > > I have been researching my ancestors for 24 years, and except for my own website, never posted any of my research on-line with any company or organization. > > I have known about and used the resources and trees on familysearch.org, but until recently I have not posted any information there. > > About 7 years ago, Family Search completely redid their family tree application. Now, there is only ONE tree and everyone posts their information to that tree. Every family has a monitor who can accept or reject the information posted by you and others. Mostly they monitor to see that the posts do not contain offensive or inappropriate information. When there are differences on facts, they research the issue and remove the incorrect information. You can Watch each person you post and correct and challenge incorrect changes. The monitor evaluates the situation and corrects the issue. Adding sources and family information is very easy. > > I have been posting my research one person at a time, which some may not want to do, but I prefer it. The Familt Search Family Tree staff have built a skeleton tree using information from census records and other original source documentation, usually with two sources. When you find a skeleton entry for your ancestor, you just add your sources and information to the record. Duplicate entries can be merged. When you add a person you automatically go through a process to see if they are already there, before you create a new person. > > I could probably go on forever with praise for this application, but I won't bore you, try it you might like it. > > You will not have to worry about your research being lost. I am sure that when Our World Comes to an end, the Family History Library will build a rocket to send our family history into space. > > AND, FOLKS, IT IS ENTIRELY FREE. You do have to register to use the tree, but that is an administrative requirement. > > Marleen Van Horne

I don't see how opther people can edit you tree at Ancestry without you giving them permission. Nobody has even changed my trees. Doug McDonald -----Original Message----- From: Joan Lince <joanklince@earthlink.net> Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 9:45 AM To: genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com Subject: [DNA] Re: Linking DNA Carol, you are so right, and you made your point even clearer with the example. I once put a tree on Ancestry and others edited in some wrong information. The tree is still there, with my family name in its title, but with the errors it not only gives wrong information but reflects badly on our carefully documented research. I wish I could delete the whole tree. Joan b community

I agree, Doug. Ancestry has degrees of sharing, which you can change any time you wish. No one has ever made a change to my trees. Doris On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 2:22 PM McDonald, J Douglas <jdmcdona@illinois.edu> wrote: > I don't see how opther people can edit you tree at Ancestry without you > giving them permission. > Nobody has even changed my trees. > > Doug McDonald > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joan Lince <joanklince@earthlink.net> > Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 9:45 AM > To: genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Subject: [DNA] Re: Linking DNA > > Carol, you are so right, and you made your point even clearer with the > example. I once put a tree on Ancestry and others edited in some wrong > information. The tree is still there, with my family name in its title, but > with the errors it not only gives wrong information but reflects badly on > our carefully documented research. I wish I could delete the whole tree. > > Joan > b community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > -- https://www.doriswheeler.org https://genealogyanddna.blogspot.com/

I think it depends on whether you make your tree public or private. I'm not clear about the consequences of one's choices, and I was even less so at the time I posted the tree. What is very clear to me now is that additional information is now in the tree and there are errors in it that I couldn't possibly have made. Joan -----Original Message----- From: McDonald, J Douglas [mailto:jdmcdona@illinois.edu] Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2018 2:22 PM To: joanklince@earthlink.net; genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [DNA] Re: Linking DNA I don't see how opther people can edit you tree at Ancestry without you giving them permission. Nobody has even changed my trees. Doug McDonald -----Original Message----- From: Joan Lince <joanklince@earthlink.net> Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 9:45 AM To: genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com Subject: [DNA] Re: Linking DNA Carol, you are so right, and you made your point even clearer with the example. I once put a tree on Ancestry and others edited in some wrong information. The tree is still there, with my family name in its title, but with the errors it not only gives wrong information but reflects badly on our carefully documented research. I wish I could delete the whole tree. Joan b community

Amen to that, Rhonda. That’s why I don’t like the approach that Ancestry takes. Everyone has his own tree, sometimes many versions. Instead of just requiring to all work together and having a process when there is conflicting evidence. Happy Thanksgiving, Andreas Andreas West Meine Vorfahren / my ancestors (8 generations): http://www.wikitree.com/treewidget/Basso-23/5 Author of https://www.yourDNA.family Follow us on Facebook for latest updates on our progress - https://www.facebook.com/yourDNAfamily/ > On 23 Nov 2018, at 11:38, Rhonda Flowers <rwflowers@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > Hello Carol > > This is precisely why I will never have a tree on Ancestry. There are dozens > of trees with my paternal line information just copied and copied and copied > from one tree to another. Pre the internet it was easy to make a mistake > because there was limited information out there to be had. Family > information can be passed down orally but if it is based on the wrong > ancestor (with the same surname) then the error can be perpetuated ad > infinitum. > > This too, is precisely why DNA testing and matching is so important. When > primary documents are unavailable or conflicting; DNA can be used to set the > record straight; even if there is a book sitting in the National Library > with unsupported incorrect ancestry information about ones family; perhaps > one day it will be acknowledged the inclusion of my family in it was an > error. > Cheers > Rhonda > > -----Original Message----- > From: Carol Anne <clkonfetti@gmail.com> > Sent: Friday, 23 November 2018 1:14 PM > To: genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Subject: [DNA] Re: Linking DNA > > Personally, I think you should have to have the permission of the tree owner > to link anything. I don't like people adding things to my tree as most > people are extremely bad genealogists - actually not genealogists - just > tree copiers. I've spent 20 years gathering primary documents. Why should > people be able to link to my tree or alter information in it without > discussion? I'm not saying my tree might not have errors. Everyone makes > mistakes. Anyone who copies anything from any online tree or any book should > be aware that they could have errors, but most people don't seem to be. But > I don't want people wildly adding errors without so much as a by-your-leave > or discussion. > On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 4:24 PM Wjhonson via GENEALOGY-DNA > <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> >> At FTDNA you can link your relatives DNA to your tree without the >> need for them to do anything.You are the one doing all the linking >> Wikitree also has this >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Karen Hodges <rowantreek@gmail.com> >> To: genealogy-dna <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thu, Nov 22, 2018 1:21 pm >> Subject: [DNA] Linking DNA >> >> With family tree DNA you can link your DNA in your tree with relatives >> who link their DNA in their tree to you. Do any of the other major >> testing companies have this feature? >> >> Karen >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal >> RootsWeb community >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal >> RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is > funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community