-----Original Message----- From: Lindsey Britton <lplantagenet@aol.com> To: genealogy-dna <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, Nov 18, 2018 7:25 pm Subject: Where to get best autosomal results If you have used autosomal DNA to identify a 3rd great grandparent or a more distant ancestor, which testing company do you recommend?    Lindsey 

Lindsey, I'm mining ALL of the match lists on all of the companies for hints for my current brickwall focus of my 2 greats grandmother and her father-in-law my 3greats. By now I have an extended family that we DO fit into somewhere for the 3greats, so I'm also mining all the trees I can find to see where I might find other tested descendants who have data to contribute to narrow this down. It doesn't change where I'd test from last time we discussed recommendations as long as data is on all of them to go fishing. For the price of two tests, FTDNA or MyHeritage, transferred to the other and to GEDMatch plus a test at Ancestry you have covered most bases. As to why retest FTDNA rather than transfer from Ancestry if you started with the latter? I believe that the matches that FTDNA doesn't report from the transfer in to FTDNA from Ancestry actually matter, particularly when exploring such things as your subject. The shared matches there are more complete from tests than from Ancestry transfers. I also rarely bother with 23andme although I have tested there along with a representative from each "side" of my family just to have toe in the water. I get too annoyed by the complicated sharing system, and complete lack of trees as so few people realise you can link to one in your profile Lorna Henderson http://LornaHen.com On 20/11/18 14:47, Lindsey Britton via GENEALOGY-DNA wrote: >    -----Original Message----- > From: Lindsey Britton <lplantagenet@aol.com> > To: genealogy-dna <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sun, Nov 18, 2018 7:25 pm > Subject: Where to get best autosomal results > > If you have used autosomal DNA to identify a 3rd great grandparent or a more distant ancestor, which testing company do you recommend?    Lindsey > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi Lorna How do you find the chromosome tools compare between my heritage and 23 and me? 23 and me who I don't have a test with had a cool tool that displayed ethnicity on each chromosome that could be compared to matches. Wondering if my heritage had introduced this tool with their updates ? Karen Y heritage might have introduceded this On Tuesday, November 20, 2018, LornaMoa <lornamoa@gmail.com> wrote: > Lindsey, > I'm mining ALL of the match lists on all of the companies for hints for my > current brickwall focus of my 2 greats grandmother and her father-in-law my > 3greats. > By now I have an extended family that we DO fit into somewhere for the > 3greats, so I'm also mining all the trees I can find to see where I might > find other tested descendants who have data to contribute to narrow this > down. > > It doesn't change where I'd test from last time we discussed > recommendations as long as data is on all of them to go fishing. > For the price of two tests, FTDNA or MyHeritage, transferred to the other > and to GEDMatch plus a test at Ancestry you have covered most bases. > As to why retest FTDNA rather than transfer from Ancestry if you started > with the latter? > I believe that the matches that FTDNA doesn't report from the transfer in > to FTDNA from Ancestry actually matter, particularly when exploring such > things as your subject. The shared matches there are more complete from > tests than from Ancestry transfers. > I also rarely bother with 23andme although I have tested there along with > a representative from each "side" of my family just to have toe in the > water. > I get too annoyed by the complicated sharing system, and complete lack of > trees as so few people realise you can link to one in your profile > > Lorna Henderson > http://LornaHen.com > > On 20/11/18 14:47, Lindsey Britton via GENEALOGY-DNA wrote: > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Lindsey Britton <lplantagenet@aol.com> >> To: genealogy-dna <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sun, Nov 18, 2018 7:25 pm >> Subject: Where to get best autosomal results >> >> If you have used autosomal DNA to identify a 3rd great grandparent or a >> more distant ancestor, which testing company do you recommend? Lindsey >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@roo >> tsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> community >> > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@roo > tsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Karen Here is my summary My Heritage: trees + all the tools at FTDNA and 23andMe 3rd largest pool of testers growing fast, more international testers 23and Me: no trees - most of the tools at MH 2nd largest pool of testers FTDNA: some trees (hard to use) - several tools but not quite as robust as MH or 23andme (only company to offer Projects) Ancestry: trees + very limited DNA tools largest pool of testers by far Living DNA: no trees - basic matching soon tools are TBD GEDMatch: limited trees (hard to use) + best tools in the business Cheers Richard DNAAdoption On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 12:10 PM Karen Hodges <rowantreek@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Lorna > > How do you find the chromosome tools compare between my heritage and 23 and > me? 23 and me who I don't have a test with had a cool tool that displayed > ethnicity on each chromosome that could be compared to matches. Wondering > if my heritage had introduced this tool with their updates ? > > Karen > > > > Y heritage might have introduceded this > > On Tuesday, November 20, 2018, LornaMoa <lornamoa@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Lindsey, > > I'm mining ALL of the match lists on all of the companies for hints for > my > > current brickwall focus of my 2 greats grandmother and her father-in-law > my > > 3greats. > > By now I have an extended family that we DO fit into somewhere for the > > 3greats, so I'm also mining all the trees I can find to see where I might > > find other tested descendants who have data to contribute to narrow this > > down. > > > > It doesn't change where I'd test from last time we discussed > > recommendations as long as data is on all of them to go fishing. > > For the price of two tests, FTDNA or MyHeritage, transferred to the other > > and to GEDMatch plus a test at Ancestry you have covered most bases. > > As to why retest FTDNA rather than transfer from Ancestry if you started > > with the latter? > > I believe that the matches that FTDNA doesn't report from the transfer in > > to FTDNA from Ancestry actually matter, particularly when exploring such > > things as your subject. The shared matches there are more complete from > > tests than from Ancestry transfers. > > I also rarely bother with 23andme although I have tested there along with > > a representative from each "side" of my family just to have toe in the > > water. > > I get too annoyed by the complicated sharing system, and complete lack of > > trees as so few people realise you can link to one in your profile > > > > Lorna Henderson > > http://LornaHen.com > > > > On 20/11/18 14:47, Lindsey Britton via GENEALOGY-DNA wrote: > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Lindsey Britton <lplantagenet@aol.com> > >> To: genealogy-dna <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> > >> Sent: Sun, Nov 18, 2018 7:25 pm > >> Subject: Where to get best autosomal results > >> > >> If you have used autosomal DNA to identify a 3rd great grandparent or a > >> more distant ancestor, which testing company do you recommend? > Lindsey > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > >> Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@roo > >> tsweb.com > >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > >> community > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@roo > > tsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > > community > > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Don't overlook FTDNA's phasing tools for their trees. It's the only company that sorts paternal vs. maternal matches. On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 3:22 PM Richard Weiss <1navy.gator@gmail.com> wrote: > Karen > > Here is my summary > > My Heritage: trees + all the tools at FTDNA and 23andMe 3rd largest pool > of testers growing fast, more international testers > 23and Me: no trees - most of the tools at MH 2nd largest pool of testers > FTDNA: some trees (hard to use) - several tools but not quite as robust as > MH or 23andme (only company to offer Projects) > Ancestry: trees + very limited DNA tools largest pool of testers by far > Living DNA: no trees - basic matching soon tools are TBD > GEDMatch: limited trees (hard to use) + best tools in the business > > Cheers > Richard > DNAAdoption > > > > On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 12:10 PM Karen Hodges <rowantreek@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Hi Lorna > > > > How do you find the chromosome tools compare between my heritage and 23 > and > > me? 23 and me who I don't have a test with had a cool tool that > displayed > > ethnicity on each chromosome that could be compared to matches. Wondering > > if my heritage had introduced this tool with their updates ? > > > > Karen > > > > > > > > Y heritage might have introduceded this > > > > On Tuesday, November 20, 2018, LornaMoa <lornamoa@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Lindsey, > > > I'm mining ALL of the match lists on all of the companies for hints for > > my > > > current brickwall focus of my 2 greats grandmother and her > father-in-law > > my > > > 3greats. > > > By now I have an extended family that we DO fit into somewhere for the > > > 3greats, so I'm also mining all the trees I can find to see where I > might > > > find other tested descendants who have data to contribute to narrow > this > > > down. > > > > > > It doesn't change where I'd test from last time we discussed > > > recommendations as long as data is on all of them to go fishing. > > > For the price of two tests, FTDNA or MyHeritage, transferred to the > other > > > and to GEDMatch plus a test at Ancestry you have covered most bases. > > > As to why retest FTDNA rather than transfer from Ancestry if you > started > > > with the latter? > > > I believe that the matches that FTDNA doesn't report from the transfer > in > > > to FTDNA from Ancestry actually matter, particularly when exploring > such > > > things as your subject. The shared matches there are more complete from > > > tests than from Ancestry transfers. > > > I also rarely bother with 23andme although I have tested there along > with > > > a representative from each "side" of my family just to have toe in the > > > water. > > > I get too annoyed by the complicated sharing system, and complete lack > of > > > trees as so few people realise you can link to one in your profile > > > > > > Lorna Henderson > > > http://LornaHen.com > > > > > > On 20/11/18 14:47, Lindsey Britton via GENEALOGY-DNA wrote: > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: Lindsey Britton <lplantagenet@aol.com> > > >> To: genealogy-dna <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> > > >> Sent: Sun, Nov 18, 2018 7:25 pm > > >> Subject: Where to get best autosomal results > > >> > > >> If you have used autosomal DNA to identify a 3rd great grandparent or > a > > >> more distant ancestor, which testing company do you recommend? > > Lindsey > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > >> Unsubscribe > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@roo > > >> tsweb.com > > >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb > > >> community > > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@roo > > > tsweb.com > > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > > > community > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > > community > > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > -- https://www.doriswheeler.org https://genealogyanddna.blogspot.com/

Ancestry also parentally phases and sorts Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 20, 2018, at 12:56 PM, Doris Wheeler <doriswh@gmail.com> wrote: > > Don't overlook FTDNA's phasing tools for their trees. It's the only company > that sorts paternal vs. maternal matches. > >> On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 3:22 PM Richard Weiss <1navy.gator@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Karen >> >> Here is my summary >> >> My Heritage: trees + all the tools at FTDNA and 23andMe 3rd largest pool >> of testers growing fast, more international testers >> 23and Me: no trees - most of the tools at MH 2nd largest pool of testers >> FTDNA: some trees (hard to use) - several tools but not quite as robust as >> MH or 23andme (only company to offer Projects) >> Ancestry: trees + very limited DNA tools largest pool of testers by far >> Living DNA: no trees - basic matching soon tools are TBD >> GEDMatch: limited trees (hard to use) + best tools in the business >> >> Cheers >> Richard >> DNAAdoption >> >> >> >> On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 12:10 PM Karen Hodges <rowantreek@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Lorna >>> >>> How do you find the chromosome tools compare between my heritage and 23 >> and >>> me? 23 and me who I don't have a test with had a cool tool that >> displayed >>> ethnicity on each chromosome that could be compared to matches. Wondering >>> if my heritage had introduced this tool with their updates ? >>> >>> Karen >>> >>> >>> >>> Y heritage might have introduceded this >>> >>>> On Tuesday, November 20, 2018, LornaMoa <lornamoa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Lindsey, >>>> I'm mining ALL of the match lists on all of the companies for hints for >>> my >>>> current brickwall focus of my 2 greats grandmother and her >> father-in-law >>> my >>>> 3greats. >>>> By now I have an extended family that we DO fit into somewhere for the >>>> 3greats, so I'm also mining all the trees I can find to see where I >> might >>>> find other tested descendants who have data to contribute to narrow >> this >>>> down. >>>> >>>> It doesn't change where I'd test from last time we discussed >>>> recommendations as long as data is on all of them to go fishing. >>>> For the price of two tests, FTDNA or MyHeritage, transferred to the >> other >>>> and to GEDMatch plus a test at Ancestry you have covered most bases. >>>> As to why retest FTDNA rather than transfer from Ancestry if you >> started >>>> with the latter? >>>> I believe that the matches that FTDNA doesn't report from the transfer >> in >>>> to FTDNA from Ancestry actually matter, particularly when exploring >> such >>>> things as your subject. The shared matches there are more complete from >>>> tests than from Ancestry transfers. >>>> I also rarely bother with 23andme although I have tested there along >> with >>>> a representative from each "side" of my family just to have toe in the >>>> water. >>>> I get too annoyed by the complicated sharing system, and complete lack >> of >>>> trees as so few people realise you can link to one in your profile >>>> >>>> Lorna Henderson >>>> http://LornaHen.com >>>> >>>>> On 20/11/18 14:47, Lindsey Britton via GENEALOGY-DNA wrote: >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Lindsey Britton <lplantagenet@aol.com> >>>>> To: genealogy-dna <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> >>>>> Sent: Sun, Nov 18, 2018 7:25 pm >>>>> Subject: Where to get best autosomal results >>>>> >>>>> If you have used autosomal DNA to identify a 3rd great grandparent or >> a >>>>> more distant ancestor, which testing company do you recommend? >>> Lindsey >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >>>>> Unsubscribe >>> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@roo >>>>> tsweb.com >>>>> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >>>>> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >>>>> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >>>>> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal >> RootsWeb >>>>> community >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >>>> Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@roo >>>> tsweb.com >>>> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >>>> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >>>> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >>>> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >>>> community >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >>> Unsubscribe >>> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com >>> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >>> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >>> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >>> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >>> community >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> community >> > > > -- > https://www.doriswheeler.org > https://genealogyanddna.blogspot.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

...but only if parents have tested. FTDNA uses a proprietary algorithm based on user-defined relationships, both DNA and genealogical, and other factors. I hae found it extremely valuable. On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 4:03 PM Richard Weiss <1navy.gator@gmail.com> wrote: > Ancestry also parentally phases and sorts > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Nov 20, 2018, at 12:56 PM, Doris Wheeler <doriswh@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Don't overlook FTDNA's phasing tools for their trees. It's the only > company > > that sorts paternal vs. maternal matches. > > > >> On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 3:22 PM Richard Weiss <1navy.gator@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > >> Karen > >> > >> Here is my summary > >> > >> My Heritage: trees + all the tools at FTDNA and 23andMe 3rd largest > pool > >> of testers growing fast, more international testers > >> 23and Me: no trees - most of the tools at MH 2nd largest pool of > testers > >> FTDNA: some trees (hard to use) - several tools but not quite as robust > as > >> MH or 23andme (only company to offer Projects) > >> Ancestry: trees + very limited DNA tools largest pool of testers by far > >> Living DNA: no trees - basic matching soon tools are TBD > >> GEDMatch: limited trees (hard to use) + best tools in the business > >> > >> Cheers > >> Richard > >> DNAAdoption > >> > >> > >> > >> On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 12:10 PM Karen Hodges <rowantreek@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Hi Lorna > >>> > >>> How do you find the chromosome tools compare between my heritage and 23 > >> and > >>> me? 23 and me who I don't have a test with had a cool tool that > >> displayed > >>> ethnicity on each chromosome that could be compared to matches. > Wondering > >>> if my heritage had introduced this tool with their updates ? > >>> > >>> Karen > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Y heritage might have introduceded this > >>> > >>>> On Tuesday, November 20, 2018, LornaMoa <lornamoa@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Lindsey, > >>>> I'm mining ALL of the match lists on all of the companies for hints > for > >>> my > >>>> current brickwall focus of my 2 greats grandmother and her > >> father-in-law > >>> my > >>>> 3greats. > >>>> By now I have an extended family that we DO fit into somewhere for the > >>>> 3greats, so I'm also mining all the trees I can find to see where I > >> might > >>>> find other tested descendants who have data to contribute to narrow > >> this > >>>> down. > >>>> > >>>> It doesn't change where I'd test from last time we discussed > >>>> recommendations as long as data is on all of them to go fishing. > >>>> For the price of two tests, FTDNA or MyHeritage, transferred to the > >> other > >>>> and to GEDMatch plus a test at Ancestry you have covered most bases. > >>>> As to why retest FTDNA rather than transfer from Ancestry if you > >> started > >>>> with the latter? > >>>> I believe that the matches that FTDNA doesn't report from the transfer > >> in > >>>> to FTDNA from Ancestry actually matter, particularly when exploring > >> such > >>>> things as your subject. The shared matches there are more complete > from > >>>> tests than from Ancestry transfers. > >>>> I also rarely bother with 23andme although I have tested there along > >> with > >>>> a representative from each "side" of my family just to have toe in the > >>>> water. > >>>> I get too annoyed by the complicated sharing system, and complete lack > >> of > >>>> trees as so few people realise you can link to one in your profile > >>>> > >>>> Lorna Henderson > >>>> http://LornaHen.com > >>>> > >>>>> On 20/11/18 14:47, Lindsey Britton via GENEALOGY-DNA wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>> From: Lindsey Britton <lplantagenet@aol.com> > >>>>> To: genealogy-dna <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> > >>>>> Sent: Sun, Nov 18, 2018 7:25 pm > >>>>> Subject: Where to get best autosomal results > >>>>> > >>>>> If you have used autosomal DNA to identify a 3rd great grandparent or > >> a > >>>>> more distant ancestor, which testing company do you recommend? > >>> Lindsey > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > >>>>> Unsubscribe > >>> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@roo > >>>>> tsweb.com > >>>>> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > >>>>> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > >>>>> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > >>>>> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > >> RootsWeb > >>>>> community > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > >>>> Unsubscribe > >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@roo > >>>> tsweb.com > >>>> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > >>>> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > >>>> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > >>>> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb > >>>> community > >>>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > >>> Unsubscribe > >>> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > >>> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > >>> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > >>> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > >>> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > >>> community > >>> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > >> Unsubscribe > >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > >> community > >> > > > > > > -- > > https://www.doriswheeler.org > > https://genealogyanddna.blogspot.com/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > -- https://www.doriswheeler.org https://genealogyanddna.blogspot.com/

Neither of my parents have tested. On my paternal side, I used a half brother, and on my maternal side, I used two second Cousins through my grandfather. Marleen Van Horne

Yes Doris this is a great tool!! One question about this tool...can anyone explain why there are far more phased maternal matches than paternal in my matches! 491 maternal and 46 paternal. Would it be that it is simply a case of more of my maternal matches testing or does it have something to do with how DNA is passed down? I have about equal amount of close relatives paternal and maternal who have tested. Rhonda -----Original Message----- From: Doris Wheeler <doriswh@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2018 7:56 AM To: genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com Subject: [DNA] Re: Fwd: Where to get best autosomal results Don't overlook FTDNA's phasing tools for their trees. It's the only company that sorts paternal vs. maternal matches. On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 3:22 PM Richard Weiss <1navy.gator@gmail.com> wrote: > Karen > > Here is my summary > > My Heritage: trees + all the tools at FTDNA and 23andMe 3rd largest > pool of testers growing fast, more international testers 23and Me: no > trees - most of the tools at MH 2nd largest pool of testers > FTDNA: some trees (hard to use) - several tools but not quite as > robust as MH or 23andme (only company to offer Projects) > Ancestry: trees + very limited DNA tools largest pool of testers by > far Living DNA: no trees - basic matching soon tools are TBD > GEDMatch: limited trees (hard to use) + best tools in the business > > Cheers > Richard > DNAAdoption > > > > On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 12:10 PM Karen Hodges <rowantreek@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Hi Lorna > > > > How do you find the chromosome tools compare between my heritage and > > 23 > and > > me? 23 and me who I don't have a test with had a cool tool that > displayed > > ethnicity on each chromosome that could be compared to matches. > > Wondering if my heritage had introduced this tool with their updates ? > > > > Karen > > > > > > > > Y heritage might have introduceded this > > > > On Tuesday, November 20, 2018, LornaMoa <lornamoa@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Lindsey, > > > I'm mining ALL of the match lists on all of the companies for > > > hints for > > my > > > current brickwall focus of my 2 greats grandmother and her > father-in-law > > my > > > 3greats. > > > By now I have an extended family that we DO fit into somewhere for > > > the 3greats, so I'm also mining all the trees I can find to see > > > where I > might > > > find other tested descendants who have data to contribute to > > > narrow > this > > > down. > > > > > > It doesn't change where I'd test from last time we discussed > > > recommendations as long as data is on all of them to go fishing. > > > For the price of two tests, FTDNA or MyHeritage, transferred to > > > the > other > > > and to GEDMatch plus a test at Ancestry you have covered most bases. > > > As to why retest FTDNA rather than transfer from Ancestry if you > started > > > with the latter? > > > I believe that the matches that FTDNA doesn't report from the > > > transfer > in > > > to FTDNA from Ancestry actually matter, particularly when > > > exploring > such > > > things as your subject. The shared matches there are more complete > > > from tests than from Ancestry transfers. > > > I also rarely bother with 23andme although I have tested there > > > along > with > > > a representative from each "side" of my family just to have toe in > > > the water. > > > I get too annoyed by the complicated sharing system, and complete > > > lack > of > > > trees as so few people realise you can link to one in your profile > > > > > > Lorna Henderson > > > http://LornaHen.com > > > > > > On 20/11/18 14:47, Lindsey Britton via GENEALOGY-DNA wrote: > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: Lindsey Britton <lplantagenet@aol.com> > > >> To: genealogy-dna <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> > > >> Sent: Sun, Nov 18, 2018 7:25 pm > > >> Subject: Where to get best autosomal results > > >> > > >> If you have used autosomal DNA to identify a 3rd great > > >> grandparent or > a > > >> more distant ancestor, which testing company do you recommend? > > Lindsey > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@roo > > >> tsweb.com > > >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and > > >> supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb > > >> community > > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@roo > > > tsweb.com > > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and > > > supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.co > > m Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and > > Conditions: > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > > RootsWeb community > > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community > -- https://www.doriswheeler.org https://genealogyanddna.blogspot.com/ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Rhonda - Do you have more of your maternal side matches linked to your tree than paternal side matches? It's those linked matches - especially closer ones - that enable the phasing used for the Paternal/Maternal tabs feature. This feature is called the Family Matching Sort Tabs (or Family Matching Feature), and it uses phased matching based on the matches that you've linked to your tree. FTDNA says "Family Matching is based on phased blocks detected between relations, taking into account phased information is significant as it ensures that the block is not only of similar size and in the same location, but also transmitted by the same alleles." Here is a link to more information on how it works: https://www.familytreedna.com/learn/ftdna/ftdna-family-matching-system/ And here's a link to getting Family Matching started - you've done this already since you have these Paternal/Maternal tabs: https://www.familytreedna.com/learn/user-guide/family-finder-myftdna/family-matching-tool/ --Thena Jones On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 4:25 PM Rhonda Flowers <rwflowers@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > Yes Doris this is a great tool!! > > One question about this tool...can anyone explain why there are far more > phased maternal matches than paternal in my matches! 491 maternal and 46 > paternal. > > Would it be that it is simply a case of more of my maternal matches testing > or does it have something to do with how DNA is passed down? > > I have about equal amount of close relatives paternal and maternal who have > tested. > > Rhonda > > -----Original Message----- > From: Doris Wheeler <doriswh@gmail.com> > Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2018 7:56 AM > To: genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Subject: [DNA] Re: Fwd: Where to get best autosomal results > > Don't overlook FTDNA's phasing tools for their trees. It's the only company > that sorts paternal vs. maternal matches. > > On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 3:22 PM Richard Weiss <1navy.gator@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Karen > > > > Here is my summary > > > > My Heritage: trees + all the tools at FTDNA and 23andMe 3rd largest > > pool of testers growing fast, more international testers 23and Me: no > > trees - most of the tools at MH 2nd largest pool of testers > > FTDNA: some trees (hard to use) - several tools but not quite as > > robust as MH or 23andme (only company to offer Projects) > > Ancestry: trees + very limited DNA tools largest pool of testers by > > far Living DNA: no trees - basic matching soon tools are TBD > > GEDMatch: limited trees (hard to use) + best tools in the business > > > > Cheers > > Richard > > DNAAdoption > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 12:10 PM Karen Hodges <rowantreek@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > Hi Lorna > > > > > > How do you find the chromosome tools compare between my heritage and > > > 23 > > and > > > me? 23 and me who I don't have a test with had a cool tool that > > displayed > > > ethnicity on each chromosome that could be compared to matches. > > > Wondering if my heritage had introduced this tool with their updates ? > > > > > > Karen > > > > > > > > > > > > Y heritage might have introduceded this > > > > > > On Tuesday, November 20, 2018, LornaMoa <lornamoa@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Lindsey, > > > > I'm mining ALL of the match lists on all of the companies for > > > > hints for > > > my > > > > current brickwall focus of my 2 greats grandmother and her > > father-in-law > > > my > > > > 3greats. > > > > By now I have an extended family that we DO fit into somewhere for > > > > the 3greats, so I'm also mining all the trees I can find to see > > > > where I > > might > > > > find other tested descendants who have data to contribute to > > > > narrow > > this > > > > down. > > > > > > > > It doesn't change where I'd test from last time we discussed > > > > recommendations as long as data is on all of them to go fishing. > > > > For the price of two tests, FTDNA or MyHeritage, transferred to > > > > the > > other > > > > and to GEDMatch plus a test at Ancestry you have covered most bases. > > > > As to why retest FTDNA rather than transfer from Ancestry if you > > started > > > > with the latter? > > > > I believe that the matches that FTDNA doesn't report from the > > > > transfer > > in > > > > to FTDNA from Ancestry actually matter, particularly when > > > > exploring > > such > > > > things as your subject. The shared matches there are more complete > > > > from tests than from Ancestry transfers. > > > > I also rarely bother with 23andme although I have tested there > > > > along > > with > > > > a representative from each "side" of my family just to have toe in > > > > the water. > > > > I get too annoyed by the complicated sharing system, and complete > > > > lack > > of > > > > trees as so few people realise you can link to one in your profile > > > > > > > > Lorna Henderson > > > > http://LornaHen.com > > > > > > > > On 20/11/18 14:47, Lindsey Britton via GENEALOGY-DNA wrote: > > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > > >> From: Lindsey Britton <lplantagenet@aol.com> > > > >> To: genealogy-dna <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> > > > >> Sent: Sun, Nov 18, 2018 7:25 pm > > > >> Subject: Where to get best autosomal results > > > >> > > > >> If you have used autosomal DNA to identify a 3rd great > > > >> grandparent or > > a > > > >> more distant ancestor, which testing company do you recommend? > > > Lindsey > > > >> > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@roo > > > >> tsweb.com > > > >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and > Conditions: > > > >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > > >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and > > > >> supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > > RootsWeb > > > >> community > > > >> > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@roo > > > > tsweb.com > > > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and > > > > supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.co > > > m Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and > > > Conditions: > > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > > > RootsWeb community > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > > RootsWeb community > > > > > -- > https://www.doriswheeler.org > https://genealogyanddna.blogspot.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is > funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Hello Thena Thank you! Yes I have slightly more maternal matches linked to my family tree. Maternal matches: Half brother 1st cousin once removed 2nd cousin 2nd cousin once removed 3rd cousin once removed 4th cousin Paternal matches: 2nd cousin 1st cousin once removed 2nd cousin once removed 4th cousin once removed Best wishes Rhonda -----Original Message----- From: Thena Jones <tsjones1@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2018 9:35 AM To: genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com Subject: [DNA] Re: Fwd: Where to get best autosomal results Rhonda - Do you have more of your maternal side matches linked to your tree than paternal side matches? It's those linked matches - especially closer ones - that enable the phasing used for the Paternal/Maternal tabs feature. This feature is called the Family Matching Sort Tabs (or Family Matching Feature), and it uses phased matching based on the matches that you've linked to your tree. FTDNA says "Family Matching is based on phased blocks detected between relations, taking into account phased information is significant as it ensures that the block is not only of similar size and in the same location, but also transmitted by the same alleles." Here is a link to more information on how it works: https://www.familytreedna.com/learn/ftdna/ftdna-family-matching-system/ And here's a link to getting Family Matching started - you've done this already since you have these Paternal/Maternal tabs: https://www.familytreedna.com/learn/user-guide/family-finder-myftdna/family- matching-tool/ --Thena Jones On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 4:25 PM Rhonda Flowers <rwflowers@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > Yes Doris this is a great tool!! > > One question about this tool...can anyone explain why there are far > more phased maternal matches than paternal in my matches! 491 maternal > and 46 paternal. > > Would it be that it is simply a case of more of my maternal matches > testing or does it have something to do with how DNA is passed down? > > I have about equal amount of close relatives paternal and maternal who > have tested. > > Rhonda > > -----Original Message----- > From: Doris Wheeler <doriswh@gmail.com> > Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2018 7:56 AM > To: genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Subject: [DNA] Re: Fwd: Where to get best autosomal results > > Don't overlook FTDNA's phasing tools for their trees. It's the only > company that sorts paternal vs. maternal matches. > > On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 3:22 PM Richard Weiss <1navy.gator@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Karen > > > > Here is my summary > > > > My Heritage: trees + all the tools at FTDNA and 23andMe 3rd largest > > pool of testers growing fast, more international testers 23and Me: > > no trees - most of the tools at MH 2nd largest pool of testers > > FTDNA: some trees (hard to use) - several tools but not quite as > > robust as MH or 23andme (only company to offer Projects) > > Ancestry: trees + very limited DNA tools largest pool of testers by > > far Living DNA: no trees - basic matching soon tools are TBD > > GEDMatch: limited trees (hard to use) + best tools in the business > > > > Cheers > > Richard > > DNAAdoption > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 12:10 PM Karen Hodges <rowantreek@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > Hi Lorna > > > > > > How do you find the chromosome tools compare between my heritage > > > and > > > 23 > > and > > > me? 23 and me who I don't have a test with had a cool tool that > > displayed > > > ethnicity on each chromosome that could be compared to matches. > > > Wondering if my heritage had introduced this tool with their updates ? > > > > > > Karen > > > > > > > > > > > > Y heritage might have introduceded this > > > > > > On Tuesday, November 20, 2018, LornaMoa <lornamoa@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Lindsey, > > > > I'm mining ALL of the match lists on all of the companies for > > > > hints for > > > my > > > > current brickwall focus of my 2 greats grandmother and her > > father-in-law > > > my > > > > 3greats. > > > > By now I have an extended family that we DO fit into somewhere > > > > for the 3greats, so I'm also mining all the trees I can find to > > > > see where I > > might > > > > find other tested descendants who have data to contribute to > > > > narrow > > this > > > > down. > > > > > > > > It doesn't change where I'd test from last time we discussed > > > > recommendations as long as data is on all of them to go fishing. > > > > For the price of two tests, FTDNA or MyHeritage, transferred to > > > > the > > other > > > > and to GEDMatch plus a test at Ancestry you have covered most bases. > > > > As to why retest FTDNA rather than transfer from Ancestry if you > > started > > > > with the latter? > > > > I believe that the matches that FTDNA doesn't report from the > > > > transfer > > in > > > > to FTDNA from Ancestry actually matter, particularly when > > > > exploring > > such > > > > things as your subject. The shared matches there are more > > > > complete from tests than from Ancestry transfers. > > > > I also rarely bother with 23andme although I have tested there > > > > along > > with > > > > a representative from each "side" of my family just to have toe > > > > in the water. > > > > I get too annoyed by the complicated sharing system, and > > > > complete lack > > of > > > > trees as so few people realise you can link to one in your > > > > profile > > > > > > > > Lorna Henderson > > > > http://LornaHen.com > > > > > > > > On 20/11/18 14:47, Lindsey Britton via GENEALOGY-DNA wrote: > > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > > >> From: Lindsey Britton <lplantagenet@aol.com> > > > >> To: genealogy-dna <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> > > > >> Sent: Sun, Nov 18, 2018 7:25 pm > > > >> Subject: Where to get best autosomal results > > > >> > > > >> If you have used autosomal DNA to identify a 3rd great > > > >> grandparent or > > a > > > >> more distant ancestor, which testing company do you recommend? > > > Lindsey > > > >> > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@roo > > > >> tsweb.com > > > >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and > Conditions: > > > >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > > >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and > > > >> supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > > RootsWeb > > > >> community > > > >> > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@roo > > > > tsweb.com > > > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and > > > > supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb. > > > co m Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and > > > Conditions: > > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and > > > supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.co > > m Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and > > Conditions: > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > > RootsWeb community > > > > > -- > https://www.doriswheeler.org > https://genealogyanddna.blogspot.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community > _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Rhonda, I have just the opposite problem.  I have 842 paternal phased matches and 219 maternal phased matches ,at FTDNA. That said, I have 5 paternal linked matches and 18 maternal linked matches.  The problem w1th my maternal  linked matches is that I have no identified relations for my maternal grandmother. I have 2840 unphased matches, at least some of which must be the ancestors of my grandmother.  Her only brother had no biological grandchildren. A couple of my phased matches go back 11 generations or so, I made a strategic decision to use my FTDNA family tree only to document my linked matches to common ancestors.   I just connected myself to one paternal and one maternal match and the phasing fell into place.  Then I went through their posted pedigrees until I found common ancestors. Marleen Van Horne

Hi Richard Thank you for the overview of the different companies. Karen On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 7:22 AM Richard Weiss <1navy.gator@gmail.com> wrote: > Karen > > Here is my summary > > My Heritage: trees + all the tools at FTDNA and 23andMe 3rd largest pool > of testers growing fast, more international testers > 23and Me: no trees - most of the tools at MH 2nd largest pool of testers > FTDNA: some trees (hard to use) - several tools but not quite as robust as > MH or 23andme (only company to offer Projects) > Ancestry: trees + very limited DNA tools largest pool of testers by far > Living DNA: no trees - basic matching soon tools are TBD > GEDMatch: limited trees (hard to use) + best tools in the business > > Cheers > Richard > DNAAdoption > > > > On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 12:10 PM Karen Hodges <rowantreek@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Hi Lorna > > > > How do you find the chromosome tools compare between my heritage and 23 > and > > me? 23 and me who I don't have a test with had a cool tool that > displayed > > ethnicity on each chromosome that could be compared to matches. Wondering > > if my heritage had introduced this tool with their updates ? > > > > Karen > > > > > > > > Y heritage might have introduceded this > > > > On Tuesday, November 20, 2018, LornaMoa <lornamoa@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Lindsey, > > > I'm mining ALL of the match lists on all of the companies for hints for > > my > > > current brickwall focus of my 2 greats grandmother and her > father-in-law > > my > > > 3greats. > > > By now I have an extended family that we DO fit into somewhere for the > > > 3greats, so I'm also mining all the trees I can find to see where I > might > > > find other tested descendants who have data to contribute to narrow > this > > > down. > > > > > > It doesn't change where I'd test from last time we discussed > > > recommendations as long as data is on all of them to go fishing. > > > For the price of two tests, FTDNA or MyHeritage, transferred to the > other > > > and to GEDMatch plus a test at Ancestry you have covered most bases. > > > As to why retest FTDNA rather than transfer from Ancestry if you > started > > > with the latter? > > > I believe that the matches that FTDNA doesn't report from the transfer > in > > > to FTDNA from Ancestry actually matter, particularly when exploring > such > > > things as your subject. The shared matches there are more complete from > > > tests than from Ancestry transfers. > > > I also rarely bother with 23andme although I have tested there along > with > > > a representative from each "side" of my family just to have toe in the > > > water. > > > I get too annoyed by the complicated sharing system, and complete lack > of > > > trees as so few people realise you can link to one in your profile > > > > > > Lorna Henderson > > > http://LornaHen.com > > > > > > On 20/11/18 14:47, Lindsey Britton via GENEALOGY-DNA wrote: > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: Lindsey Britton <lplantagenet@aol.com> > > >> To: genealogy-dna <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> > > >> Sent: Sun, Nov 18, 2018 7:25 pm > > >> Subject: Where to get best autosomal results > > >> > > >> If you have used autosomal DNA to identify a 3rd great grandparent or > a > > >> more distant ancestor, which testing company do you recommend? > > Lindsey > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > >> Unsubscribe > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@roo > > >> tsweb.com > > >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb > > >> community > > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@roo > > > tsweb.com > > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > > > community > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > > community > > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Karen, I rarely look at 23andme at all, and even less rarely have used their chromosome browser /ethnicity/match tool I simply don't get enough matches there (or responses)  to add it to my priority list If MyHeritage have an equivalent I've not noticed, but what they do have are some of the more informative tools, which they are regularly working on improving. I LOVE that they display triangulated groups right there in front of you on the shared matches instead of - not even a chromosome browser at Ancestry - shared matches only on FTDNA that you have to check further in the chromosome browser   (FTDNA have recently improved that somewhat for selecting those being checked but you still are only assuming that a shared match on the same chromosome DOES actually match the others in the group - 23andme's YES in the list of shared matches which do triangulate (at least all I've checked) but you still can't as quickly see the chromosome details from there (I use the chrome extension 529and you to do so more readily) Lorna Henderson http://lornahen.com On 21/11/2018 9:10 a.m., Karen Hodges wrote: > Hi Lorna > > How do you find the chromosome tools compare between my heritage and 23 and > me? 23 and me who I don't have a test with had a cool tool that displayed > ethnicity on each chromosome that could be compared to matches. Wondering > if my heritage had introduced this tool with their updates ? > > Karen > > > > Y heritage might have introduceded this > > On Tuesday, November 20, 2018, LornaMoa <lornamoa@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Lindsey, >> I'm mining ALL of the match lists on all of the companies for hints for my >> current brickwall focus of my 2 greats grandmother and her father-in-law my >> 3greats. >> By now I have an extended family that we DO fit into somewhere for the >> 3greats, so I'm also mining all the trees I can find to see where I might >> find other tested descendants who have data to contribute to narrow this >> down. >> >> It doesn't change where I'd test from last time we discussed >> recommendations as long as data is on all of them to go fishing. >> For the price of two tests, FTDNA or MyHeritage, transferred to the other >> and to GEDMatch plus a test at Ancestry you have covered most bases. >> As to why retest FTDNA rather than transfer from Ancestry if you started >> with the latter? >> I believe that the matches that FTDNA doesn't report from the transfer in >> to FTDNA from Ancestry actually matter, particularly when exploring such >> things as your subject. The shared matches there are more complete from >> tests than from Ancestry transfers. >> I also rarely bother with 23andme although I have tested there along with >> a representative from each "side" of my family just to have toe in the >> water. >> I get too annoyed by the complicated sharing system, and complete lack of >> trees as so few people realise you can link to one in your profile >> >> Lorna Henderson >> http://LornaHen.com >> >> On 20/11/18 14:47, Lindsey Britton via GENEALOGY-DNA wrote: >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Lindsey Britton <lplantagenet@aol.com> >>> To: genealogy-dna <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Sun, Nov 18, 2018 7:25 pm >>> Subject: Where to get best autosomal results >>> >>> If you have used autosomal DNA to identify a 3rd great grandparent or a >>> more distant ancestor, which testing company do you recommend? Lindsey >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >>> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@roo >>> tsweb.com >>> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >>> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >>> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >>> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >>> community >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@roo >> tsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> community >> > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi Lorna Thank you for sharing what you have found. Karen On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 7:56 AM LornaMoa <lornamoa@gmail.com> wrote: > Karen, > I rarely look at 23andme at all, and even less rarely have used their > chromosome browser /ethnicity/match tool I simply don't get enough > matches there (or responses) to add it to my priority list > If MyHeritage have an equivalent I've not noticed, but what they do have > are some of the more informative tools, which they are regularly working > on improving. > I LOVE that they display triangulated groups right there in front of you > on the shared matches instead of > - not even a chromosome browser at Ancestry > - shared matches only on FTDNA that you have to check further in the > chromosome browser (FTDNA have recently improved that somewhat for > selecting those being checked but you still are only assuming that a > shared match on the same chromosome DOES actually match the others in > the group > - 23andme's YES in the list of shared matches which do triangulate (at > least all I've checked) but you still can't as quickly see the > chromosome details from there (I use the chrome extension 529and you to > do so more readily) > > Lorna Henderson > http://lornahen.com > > On 21/11/2018 9:10 a.m., Karen Hodges wrote: > > Hi Lorna > > > > How do you find the chromosome tools compare between my heritage and 23 > and > > me? 23 and me who I don't have a test with had a cool tool that > displayed > > ethnicity on each chromosome that could be compared to matches. Wondering > > if my heritage had introduced this tool with their updates ? > > > > Karen > > > > > > > > Y heritage might have introduceded this > > > > On Tuesday, November 20, 2018, LornaMoa <lornamoa@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> Lindsey, > >> I'm mining ALL of the match lists on all of the companies for hints for > my > >> current brickwall focus of my 2 greats grandmother and her > father-in-law my > >> 3greats. > >> By now I have an extended family that we DO fit into somewhere for the > >> 3greats, so I'm also mining all the trees I can find to see where I > might > >> find other tested descendants who have data to contribute to narrow this > >> down. > >> > >> It doesn't change where I'd test from last time we discussed > >> recommendations as long as data is on all of them to go fishing. > >> For the price of two tests, FTDNA or MyHeritage, transferred to the > other > >> and to GEDMatch plus a test at Ancestry you have covered most bases. > >> As to why retest FTDNA rather than transfer from Ancestry if you started > >> with the latter? > >> I believe that the matches that FTDNA doesn't report from the transfer > in > >> to FTDNA from Ancestry actually matter, particularly when exploring such > >> things as your subject. The shared matches there are more complete from > >> tests than from Ancestry transfers. > >> I also rarely bother with 23andme although I have tested there along > with > >> a representative from each "side" of my family just to have toe in the > >> water. > >> I get too annoyed by the complicated sharing system, and complete lack > of > >> trees as so few people realise you can link to one in your profile > >> > >> Lorna Henderson > >> http://LornaHen.com > >> > >> On 20/11/18 14:47, Lindsey Britton via GENEALOGY-DNA wrote: > >> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: Lindsey Britton <lplantagenet@aol.com> > >>> To: genealogy-dna <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> > >>> Sent: Sun, Nov 18, 2018 7:25 pm > >>> Subject: Where to get best autosomal results > >>> > >>> If you have used autosomal DNA to identify a 3rd great grandparent or a > >>> more distant ancestor, which testing company do you recommend? > Lindsey > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > >>> Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@roo > >>> tsweb.com > >>> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > >>> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > >>> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > >>> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > >>> community > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > >> Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@roo > >> tsweb.com > >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > >> community > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

I disagree. I believe that 23andme has by far the best chromosome matching tool. I can find and verify relatives there better than the other DNA testing sites. I have used all of them. Sam Sloan On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 4:10 AM LornaMoa <lornamoa@gmail.com> wrote: > Lindsey, > I'm mining ALL of the match lists on all of the companies for hints for > my current brickwall focus of my 2 greats grandmother and her > father-in-law my 3greats. > By now I have an extended family that we DO fit into somewhere for the > 3greats, so I'm also mining all the trees I can find to see where I > might find other tested descendants who have data to contribute to > narrow this down. > > It doesn't change where I'd test from last time we discussed > recommendations as long as data is on all of them to go fishing. > For the price of two tests, FTDNA or MyHeritage, transferred to the > other and to GEDMatch plus a test at Ancestry you have covered most bases. > As to why retest FTDNA rather than transfer from Ancestry if you started > with the latter? > I believe that the matches that FTDNA doesn't report from the transfer > in to FTDNA from Ancestry actually matter, particularly when exploring > such things as your subject. The shared matches there are more complete > from tests than from Ancestry transfers. > I also rarely bother with 23andme although I have tested there along > with a representative from each "side" of my family just to have toe in > the water. > I get too annoyed by the complicated sharing system, and complete lack > of trees as so few people realise you can link to one in your profile > > Lorna Henderson > http://LornaHen.com > > On 20/11/18 14:47, Lindsey Britton via GENEALOGY-DNA wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Lindsey Britton <lplantagenet@aol.com> > > To: genealogy-dna <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sun, Nov 18, 2018 7:25 pm > > Subject: Where to get best autosomal results > > > > If you have used autosomal DNA to identify a 3rd great grandparent or a > more distant ancestor, which testing company do you recommend? Lindsey > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

> If you have used autosomal DNA to identify a 3rd > great grandparent or a more distant ancestor, > which testing company do you recommend? None of the genetic genealogists I know actually look at their DNA. In other words, they "did their DNA" to *find matches,* and then to, "via" matches, learn about their pedigree. For most, "the more data we get, the better." That means the optimal strategy is (resources permitting) fishing in *all of* the Big Four, and aggregating that information. The half-dozen brick walls I've broken through have each resulted only by combining data about matches on all four (and GEDmatch for inter-platform triangulation). After all, re brick walls, you want as big as possible a triangulated group so that you can figure out how others in the TG are related--which tells you about your own ancestry. With each of the four, now, we have a TG-creating resource--"shared matches," "relatives in common," "ICW," and "shared DNA matches" (sure, each has advantages and disadvantages). When you get up above a certain threshold amount of data, it gets easier because you know that at any given chromosomal address, you must have exactly two TGs. As for tools--well, we do a lot of extrapolating and interpolating and cross-referencing using "all available tools." On all five sites, there are inexplicable lacunae, but ... we don't seem to have much influence over what the developers code, next, for us. FTDNA is perhaps the weakest among the four only because it has so many less matches. For instance, here's how many >40cM matches my (early-US-colonial-from UK, + recent IE import) father-in-law has on each ... 123 AncestryDNA 55 23andMe 36 MyHeritage 18 FTDNA ... YMMV, of course, depending on ethnicity, etc.

Eric, Are you including the small segments at FTDNA when you're checking the count of matches? Ann On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 12:04 AM Eric S Johnson <crates@oneotaslopes.org> wrote: > > If you have used autosomal DNA to identify a 3rd > > great grandparent or a more distant ancestor, > > which testing company do you recommend? > > None of the genetic genealogists I know actually look at their DNA. In > other > words, they "did their DNA" to *find matches,* and then to, "via" matches, > learn about their pedigree. For most, "the more data we get, the better." > That means the optimal strategy is (resources permitting) fishing in *all > of* the Big Four, and aggregating that information. The half-dozen brick > walls I've broken through have each resulted only by combining data about > matches on all four (and GEDmatch for inter-platform triangulation). > > After all, re brick walls, you want as big as possible a triangulated group > so that you can figure out how others in the TG are related--which tells > you > about your own ancestry. With each of the four, now, we have a TG-creating > resource--"shared matches," "relatives in common," "ICW," and "shared DNA > matches" (sure, each has advantages and disadvantages). When you get up > above a certain threshold amount of data, it gets easier because you know > that at any given chromosomal address, you must have exactly two TGs. > > As for tools--well, we do a lot of extrapolating and interpolating and > cross-referencing using "all available tools." On all five sites, there are > inexplicable lacunae, but ... we don't seem to have much influence over > what > the developers code, next, for us. > > FTDNA is perhaps the weakest among the four only because it has so many > less > matches. For instance, here's how many >40cM matches my > (early-US-colonial-from UK, + recent IE import) father-in-law has on each > ... > 123 AncestryDNA > 55 23andMe > 36 MyHeritage > 18 FTDNA > ... YMMV, of course, depending on ethnicity, etc. >

>> 123 AncestryDNA >> 55 23andMe >> 36 MyHeritage >> 18 FTDNA > Are you including the small segments at FTDNA when you're checking the > count of matches? Nope. I'm (here) only counting >7cM HIRs. The 23andMe count is probably more like 70 because they rank "DNA relatives" using an algorithm which figures a 3x8cM-HIR match is "closer" than a 1x49cM-HIR match, so it's not fair (to 23andMe) to merely "go down the list as far as 40 cM."

Using 40cM as a cutoff point I get: 34 Ancestry DNA 14 23andMe 24 My Heritage 597 FTDNA The results are obviously not comparable with Eric's list but for a variety of reasons. The FTDNA defaults (minimum single segment 7.7cM, minimum total 20cM, including 1cM segments) are counter-intuitive in my case. It cuts out all those between 7.0 and 7.6 segments but no other bits (of which I have several who are known relatives) and gives me a huge list of American testers that I cannot possibly analyse, as I have no ancestors who ever lived in America. It also suggests to me that Americans are far more inbred (Endogamous) than they are aware, compared to the rest of the world. For Ancestry results I find a cutoff point of 20cM to be more meaningful than 40cM. I have a total of 57 between 20 and 40, and although that total includes a number of uninformative matches, 31 of the 57 are relatives. I haven't finished analyzing 23andMe and MyHeritage in a similar manner but MyHeritage is more useful to me as it includes far more non-American testers that 23andMe does. Incidentally I have just 13 >40cM on Gedmatch, but another 44 between 20 and 40cM there. Belinda -----Original Message----- From: Eric S Johnson [mailto:crates@oneotaslopes.org] Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2018 10:58 PM To: genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com Subject: [DNA] Re: Fwd: Where to get best autosomal results >> 123 AncestryDNA >> 55 23andMe >> 36 MyHeritage >> 18 FTDNA > Are you including the small segments at FTDNA when you're checking the > count of matches? Nope. I'm (here) only counting >7cM HIRs. The 23andMe count is probably more like 70 because they rank "DNA relatives" using an algorithm which figures a 3x8cM-HIR match is "closer" than a 1x49cM-HIR match, so it's not fair (to 23andMe) to merely "go down the list as far as 40 cM."