OK. I have a full 3rd cousin who is a direct female to female descendant of our mutual great-great-grandmother. (I have a great-grandfather intervening.) Margaret is at FTDNA as 549739 and Gedmatch as T724743. Her mtDNA Full Sequence Haplogroup is HV-T16311C. This mutual ancestor had the name of VILLIERS. We do not know if it was her birth surname, a former married name or an alias. She married (set up house with) quite young a well-to-do Dublin Irishman whose profession took him all over that country as well as abroad to Britain and possibly further. He was a civil and maritime engineer in the mid 1800s. Therefore he could have met her anywhere, but most probably in Ireland. His family was Church of Ireland (Anglican). She bore him 9 children who were all baptised Church of Ireland with her surname Villiers. In his late 50s as his health declined, they quietly married and he asked his sons and unmarried daughters to take his surname, which they did most happily. But two of the children who died in infancy were buried in Dublin as Villiers in adjoining burials to their parents who were buried later as HALPIN (his surname). You can understand why we are so keen to uncover the mystery of this woman, and her parents. Margaret carries the mtDNA of Miss Villiers' mother, I presume. Margaret is the only direct female descendant I can find but there are other descendants with autosomal test results available, besides me. Bill Webster -----Original Message----- From: Bill Webster [mailto:wbwebster@internode.on.net] Sent: Saturday, 27 October 2018 11:00 AM To: genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com Subject: [DNA] Re: What does Full Sequence from Family Tree DNA mean? Ann and Ian, yes that would be right: I'd have manually entered that information at Gedmatch. And I only have a home page badge showing "J". And so, I am wondering how I came by the fuller haplotree. When I did the test at FTDNA, might mtDNA Plus have been the highest level offered at that time? I uploaded my test back in 2010. In any event, when I now download a CSV of my HSV 1 and 2 matches, the spreadsheet shows the larger Haplogroup format for all 78 of them. I am attempting to send you each that file. Many thanks to everyone's help. Bill -----Original Message----- From: Ann Turner [mailto:dnacousins@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, 26 October 2018 8:39 PM To: DNA Genealogy Mailing List Subject: [DNA] Re: What does Full Sequence from Family Tree DNA mean? Bill manually entered the haplogroup at GEDmatch. If he had the complete test at FTDNA, he should see a "badge" for J2a1a1c in the upper right-hand corner of his home page and he should see "mtFull Sequence" in his order history. He should not see an offer to upgrade. Ann Turner On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 12:18 AM Ian Logan via GENEALOGY-DNA < genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Bill > > You have already had the FGS test at FTDNA ! > > This is a copy of your GEDmatch entry: > > T436920 J2a1a1c *Bill Webster wbwebster@internode.on.net > > 'J2a1a1c' is small 'twig' in branch J; > and FTDNA reports that it has found 22 sequences (1 of which will be > yours). > > On the GenBank database there are 3 sequences > (all from FTDNA customers prior to 2012, so again one of these might be > yours) > > Also, there are 19 (and perhaps more) people on GEDmatch who say they > are in this Haplogroup. (My list only looks at 170,000+ entries) > > The defining mutations for 'J2a1a1c' are: A8008G & G15596A. > > A8008G is found in 10 GenBank sequences (out of 45,000+) > and is a non-synonymous mutation. > > G15596A is found in 75 GenBank sequences > and is a definer in Haplogroups L0d2b1a1a & U5a1b1f > This mutation makes the changes MT-CYB V284I and is presumably > insignificant. > > The only other thing to say is that the Haplogroup appears to have been > 'Scandinavian' > for several thousands of yours; but before that I expect the Haplogroup > would have > been found southeast of there, in countries such as Armenia, Georgia, > Turkey, etc. > > Ian > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > On 26/10/2018 00:01, Bill Webster wrote: > > When I first got into DNA I ordered a sort of full suite of tests from > > FTDNA, including what is described in my account as mtDNA Plus. Maybe if > > I'd known more at the time, as a bloke I may not have ordered mtDNA at > all, > > although my mother and grandmother are dead and I have no sisters. > > But, FTDNA tell me I can upgrade to mtDNA Full Sequence. And so, I was > > attracted to this thread out of curiosity. At $159 it does not come > across > > as cheap. > > >From somewhere (can't remember - doesn't seem to show in FTDNA), my > mtDNA > > haplogroup is J2a1a1c. > > Does this tell me anything? > > Bill > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community