Hello to the list As I have been able to link close DNA matches to my own tree on FTDNA it has activated phasing. I have 46 paternal and 488 maternal phased matches. Only two of my paternal phased matches have an X match with me. One is a male and one is a female. The male is a double second cousin and the female is unidentified . I cannot find where she fits into my family tree. FTDNA suggests she is a 1st-3rd cousin. Can anyone explain what are the implications of the two X matches on my paternal line? All other X matches in my results appear to be to females. Regards Rhonda

Rhonda Firstly check how large the X Match actually is. FTDNA pops the X Match indication on your match list regardless of how small it is, and the vast majority as more likely "noise" than clues. Lorna Henderson http://LornaHen.com On 21/10/18 12:36, Rhonda Flowers wrote: > Hello to the list > > > > As I have been able to link close DNA matches to my own tree on FTDNA it has > activated phasing. I have 46 paternal and 488 maternal phased matches. > > > > Only two of my paternal phased matches have an X match with me. One is a > male and one is a female. > > The male is a double second cousin and the female is unidentified . I cannot > find where she fits into my family tree. > > > > FTDNA suggests she is a 1st-3rd cousin. Can anyone explain what are the > implications of the two X matches on my paternal line? > > > > All other X matches in my results appear to be to females. > > > > Regards > > Rhonda > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Thanks Lorna The X match for my second cousin (male) is 54 and the X match for my unidentified (female) is 53. Is this considered large or small? Thanks again Rhonda -----Original Message----- From: LornaMoa <lornamoa@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, 21 October 2018 10:49 AM To: genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com; Rhonda Flowers <rwflowers@optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: [DNA] X Matches Rhonda Firstly check how large the X Match actually is. FTDNA pops the X Match indication on your match list regardless of how small it is, and the vast majority as more likely "noise" than clues. Lorna Henderson http://LornaHen.com On 21/10/18 12:36, Rhonda Flowers wrote: > Hello to the list > > > > As I have been able to link close DNA matches to my own tree on FTDNA it has > activated phasing. I have 46 paternal and 488 maternal phased matches. > > > > Only two of my paternal phased matches have an X match with me. One is a > male and one is a female. > > The male is a double second cousin and the female is unidentified . I cannot > find where she fits into my family tree. > > > > FTDNA suggests she is a 1st-3rd cousin. Can anyone explain what are the > implications of the two X matches on my paternal line? > > > > All other X matches in my results appear to be to females. > > > > Regards > > Rhonda > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Sorry Lorna That is wrong...I quoted the longest block of CMs not X match amount. Will get back to you. Rhonda -----Original Message----- From: LornaMoa <lornamoa@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, 21 October 2018 10:49 AM To: genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com; Rhonda Flowers <rwflowers@optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: [DNA] X Matches Rhonda Firstly check how large the X Match actually is. FTDNA pops the X Match indication on your match list regardless of how small it is, and the vast majority as more likely "noise" than clues. Lorna Henderson http://LornaHen.com On 21/10/18 12:36, Rhonda Flowers wrote: > Hello to the list > > > > As I have been able to link close DNA matches to my own tree on FTDNA it has > activated phasing. I have 46 paternal and 488 maternal phased matches. > > > > Only two of my paternal phased matches have an X match with me. One is a > male and one is a female. > > The male is a double second cousin and the female is unidentified . I cannot > find where she fits into my family tree. > > > > FTDNA suggests she is a 1st-3rd cousin. Can anyone explain what are the > implications of the two X matches on my paternal line? > > > > All other X matches in my results appear to be to females. > > > > Regards > > Rhonda > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

check in the chromosome browser Rhonda, it defaults to only 5cMs and above, so if nothing shows it's miniscule. Even 30cMs X matches can be a LONG time ago, but at least they have a good inheritance pattern that rules a lot of a pedigree out of contention Lorna Henderson http://LornaHen.com On 21/10/18 13:07, Rhonda Flowers wrote: > Sorry Lorna > That is wrong...I quoted the longest block of CMs not X match amount. > Will get back to you. > Rhonda > > -----Original Message----- > From: LornaMoa <lornamoa@gmail.com> > Sent: Sunday, 21 October 2018 10:49 AM > To: genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com; Rhonda Flowers <rwflowers@optusnet.com.au> > Subject: Re: [DNA] X Matches > > Rhonda > Firstly check how large the X Match actually is. > FTDNA pops the X Match indication on your match list regardless of how small it is, and the vast majority as more likely "noise" than clues. > > > Lorna Henderson > http://LornaHen.com > > On 21/10/18 12:36, Rhonda Flowers wrote: >> Hello to the list >> >> >> >> As I have been able to link close DNA matches to my own tree on FTDNA it has >> activated phasing. I have 46 paternal and 488 maternal phased matches. >> >> >> >> Only two of my paternal phased matches have an X match with me. One is a >> male and one is a female. >> >> The male is a double second cousin and the female is unidentified . I cannot >> find where she fits into my family tree. >> >> >> >> FTDNA suggests she is a 1st-3rd cousin. Can anyone explain what are the >> implications of the two X matches on my paternal line? >> >> >> >> All other X matches in my results appear to be to females. >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> Rhonda >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >

Hi again Lorna You were correct. I went into GEDMATCH and found the female had a total X Cm of 5 and we share no X Cms. So yes just noise! However with the male who is on my paternal line I share the following: Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs X 53,175,498 95,725,545 20.1 2,575 X 141,970,813 150,271,096 18.6 1,192 Could this be explained because we are double second cousins...our grandfathers were brothers and our grandmothers were sisters? or is there something else? Thanks again Rhonda -----Original Message----- From: LornaMoa <lornamoa@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, 21 October 2018 10:49 AM To: genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com; Rhonda Flowers <rwflowers@optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: [DNA] X Matches Rhonda Firstly check how large the X Match actually is. FTDNA pops the X Match indication on your match list regardless of how small it is, and the vast majority as more likely "noise" than clues. Lorna Henderson http://LornaHen.com On 21/10/18 12:36, Rhonda Flowers wrote: > Hello to the list > > > > As I have been able to link close DNA matches to my own tree on FTDNA it has > activated phasing. I have 46 paternal and 488 maternal phased matches. > > > > Only two of my paternal phased matches have an X match with me. One is a > male and one is a female. > > The male is a double second cousin and the female is unidentified . I cannot > find where she fits into my family tree. > > > > FTDNA suggests she is a 1st-3rd cousin. Can anyone explain what are the > implications of the two X matches on my paternal line? > > > > All other X matches in my results appear to be to females. > > > > Regards > > Rhonda > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

If I match somebody on the X Chromosome but not on any other Chromosome what does that tell me. I am a man so I have one X Chromosome. If I match with a woman who has two X Chromosomes does that mean that My X matches with one of her two Xs. If I have two women who match me on the X chromosome does that mean that they are related to each other, I have a bunch of these. Sam Sloan On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 5:18 PM Rhonda Flowers <rwflowers@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > Hi again Lorna > You were correct. I went into GEDMATCH and found the female had a total X > Cm of 5 and we share no X Cms. So yes just noise! > > However with the male who is on my paternal line I share the following: > > Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs > X 53,175,498 95,725,545 20.1 > 2,575 > X 141,970,813 150,271,096 18.6 > 1,192 > > Could this be explained because we are double second cousins...our > grandfathers were brothers and our grandmothers were sisters? or is there > something else? > > Thanks again > Rhonda > > -----Original Message----- > From: LornaMoa <lornamoa@gmail.com> > Sent: Sunday, 21 October 2018 10:49 AM > To: genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com; Rhonda Flowers <rwflowers@optusnet.com.au> > Subject: Re: [DNA] X Matches > > Rhonda > Firstly check how large the X Match actually is. > FTDNA pops the X Match indication on your match list regardless of how > small it is, and the vast majority as more likely "noise" than clues. > > > Lorna Henderson > http://LornaHen.com > > On 21/10/18 12:36, Rhonda Flowers wrote: > > Hello to the list > > > > > > > > As I have been able to link close DNA matches to my own tree on FTDNA it > has > > activated phasing. I have 46 paternal and 488 maternal phased matches. > > > > > > > > Only two of my paternal phased matches have an X match with me. One is a > > male and one is a female. > > > > The male is a double second cousin and the female is unidentified . I > cannot > > find where she fits into my family tree. > > > > > > > > FTDNA suggests she is a 1st-3rd cousin. Can anyone explain what are the > > implications of the two X matches on my paternal line? > > > > > > > > All other X matches in my results appear to be to females. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Rhonda > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

the man would only have got his X from his mother, so you need to check the pattern of X chr inheritance against his mother's pedigree to see where it can have come from and check that against yours likewise for the X chr only. basically work back up the chain for both of you, ruling out the line back from any son's father. Lorna Henderson http://LornaHen.com On 21/10/18 13:18, Rhonda Flowers wrote: > Hi again Lorna > You were correct. I went into GEDMATCH and found the female had a total X Cm of 5 and we share no X Cms. So yes just noise! > > However with the male who is on my paternal line I share the following: > > Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs > X 53,175,498 95,725,545 20.1 2,575 > X 141,970,813 150,271,096 18.6 1,192 > > Could this be explained because we are double second cousins...our grandfathers were brothers and our grandmothers were sisters? or is there something else? > > Thanks again > Rhonda > > -----Original Message----- > From: LornaMoa <lornamoa@gmail.com> > Sent: Sunday, 21 October 2018 10:49 AM > To: genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com; Rhonda Flowers <rwflowers@optusnet.com.au> > Subject: Re: [DNA] X Matches > > Rhonda > Firstly check how large the X Match actually is. > FTDNA pops the X Match indication on your match list regardless of how small it is, and the vast majority as more likely "noise" than clues. > > > Lorna Henderson > http://LornaHen.com > > On 21/10/18 12:36, Rhonda Flowers wrote: >> Hello to the list >> >> >> >> As I have been able to link close DNA matches to my own tree on FTDNA it has >> activated phasing. I have 46 paternal and 488 maternal phased matches. >> >> >> >> Only two of my paternal phased matches have an X match with me. One is a >> male and one is a female. >> >> The male is a double second cousin and the female is unidentified . I cannot >> find where she fits into my family tree. >> >> >> >> FTDNA suggests she is a 1st-3rd cousin. Can anyone explain what are the >> implications of the two X matches on my paternal line? >> >> >> >> All other X matches in my results appear to be to females. >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> Rhonda >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >

Hello again Lorna Thank you...I think I understand. This man's mother is on my paternal line. She is my father's first cousin twice over so the X Chr I share with this man should have come from their grandmothers???? Am I on the right track...I find the inheritance patterns of the X Chromosomes totally confusing! Thank you for your patience! Best wishes Rhonda -----Original Message----- From: LornaMoa <lornamoa@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, 21 October 2018 12:18 PM To: Rhonda Flowers <rwflowers@optusnet.com.au>; genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DNA] X Matches the man would only have got his X from his mother, so you need to check the pattern of X chr inheritance against his mother's pedigree to see where it can have come from and check that against yours likewise for the X chr only. basically work back up the chain for both of you, ruling out the line back from any son's father. Lorna Henderson http://LornaHen.com On 21/10/18 13:18, Rhonda Flowers wrote: > Hi again Lorna > You were correct. I went into GEDMATCH and found the female had a total X Cm of 5 and we share no X Cms. So yes just noise! > > However with the male who is on my paternal line I share the following: > > Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs > X 53,175,498 95,725,545 20.1 2,575 > X 141,970,813 150,271,096 18.6 1,192 > > Could this be explained because we are double second cousins...our grandfathers were brothers and our grandmothers were sisters? or is there something else? > > Thanks again > Rhonda > > -----Original Message----- > From: LornaMoa <lornamoa@gmail.com> > Sent: Sunday, 21 October 2018 10:49 AM > To: genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com; Rhonda Flowers > <rwflowers@optusnet.com.au> > Subject: Re: [DNA] X Matches > > Rhonda > Firstly check how large the X Match actually is. > FTDNA pops the X Match indication on your match list regardless of how small it is, and the vast majority as more likely "noise" than clues. > > > Lorna Henderson > http://LornaHen.com > > On 21/10/18 12:36, Rhonda Flowers wrote: >> Hello to the list >> >> >> >> As I have been able to link close DNA matches to my own tree on FTDNA >> it has activated phasing. I have 46 paternal and 488 maternal phased matches. >> >> >> >> Only two of my paternal phased matches have an X match with me. One >> is a male and one is a female. >> >> The male is a double second cousin and the female is unidentified . I >> cannot find where she fits into my family tree. >> >> >> >> FTDNA suggests she is a 1st-3rd cousin. Can anyone explain what are >> the implications of the two X matches on my paternal line? >> >> >> >> All other X matches in my results appear to be to females. >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> Rhonda >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal >> RootsWeb community >

Hi Rhonda— X chromosome inheritance is indeed …eccentric. There are only some ancestors from whom you receive X segments; others make no contribution at all. I recommend: https://thegeneticgenealogist.com/2008/12/21/unlocking-the-genealogical-secrets-of-the-x-chromosome/ And you really *must* fill out the charts. Lisa W > On Oct 20, 2018, at 4:36 PM, Rhonda Flowers <rwflowers@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > Hello to the list > > > > As I have been able to link close DNA matches to my own tree on FTDNA it has > activated phasing. I have 46 paternal and 488 maternal phased matches. > > > > Only two of my paternal phased matches have an X match with me. One is a > male and one is a female. > > The male is a double second cousin and the female is unidentified . I cannot > find where she fits into my family tree. > > > > FTDNA suggests she is a 1st-3rd cousin. Can anyone explain what are the > implications of the two X matches on my paternal line? > > > > All other X matches in my results appear to be to females. > > > > Regards > > Rhonda > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hello Lisa Thank you very very much. I have found the charts and printed them off. As a first step I have begun to fill them in by hand. Now for my next "dumb" question! How can I find a copy of these charts that I can fill in online...or is there a way to save the ones you pointed me to electronically so that I can type into them? When it comes to computers my technical skills are limited. My best wishes Rhonda -----Original Message----- From: Lisa Wilcox <occassia@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, 21 October 2018 12:59 PM To: genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com Subject: [DNA] Re: X Matches Hi Rhonda— X chromosome inheritance is indeed …eccentric. There are only some ancestors from whom you receive X segments; others make no contribution at all. I recommend: https://thegeneticgenealogist.com/2008/12/21/unlocking-the-genealogical-secrets-of-the-x-chromosome/ And you really *must* fill out the charts. Lisa W > On Oct 20, 2018, at 4:36 PM, Rhonda Flowers <rwflowers@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > Hello to the list > > > > As I have been able to link close DNA matches to my own tree on FTDNA > it has activated phasing. I have 46 paternal and 488 maternal phased matches. > > > > Only two of my paternal phased matches have an X match with me. One is > a male and one is a female. > > The male is a double second cousin and the female is unidentified . I > cannot find where she fits into my family tree. > > > > FTDNA suggests she is a 1st-3rd cousin. Can anyone explain what are > the implications of the two X matches on my paternal line? > > > > All other X matches in my results appear to be to females. > > > > Regards > > Rhonda > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

I think you can download them, but they aren’t really designed to be typed into. > On Oct 20, 2018, at 8:18 PM, Rhonda Flowers <rwflowers@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > Hello Lisa > > Thank you very very much. I have found the charts and printed them off. As a first step I have begun to fill them in by hand. > > Now for my next "dumb" question! How can I find a copy of these charts that I can fill in online...or is there a way to save the ones you pointed me to electronically so that I can type into them? When it comes to computers my technical skills are limited. > > My best wishes > Rhonda > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lisa Wilcox <occassia@gmail.com> > Sent: Sunday, 21 October 2018 12:59 PM > To: genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Subject: [DNA] Re: X Matches > > Hi Rhonda— > > X chromosome inheritance is indeed …eccentric. There are only some ancestors from whom you receive X segments; others make no contribution at all. > > I recommend: > https://thegeneticgenealogist.com/2008/12/21/unlocking-the-genealogical-secrets-of-the-x-chromosome/ > And you really *must* fill out the charts. > > > Lisa W > > >> On Oct 20, 2018, at 4:36 PM, Rhonda Flowers <rwflowers@optusnet.com.au> wrote: >> >> Hello to the list >> >> >> >> As I have been able to link close DNA matches to my own tree on FTDNA >> it has activated phasing. I have 46 paternal and 488 maternal phased matches. >> >> >> >> Only two of my paternal phased matches have an X match with me. One is >> a male and one is a female. >> >> The male is a double second cousin and the female is unidentified . I >> cannot find where she fits into my family tree. >> >> >> >> FTDNA suggests she is a 1st-3rd cousin. Can anyone explain what are >> the implications of the two X matches on my paternal line? >> >> >> >> All other X matches in my results appear to be to females. >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> Rhonda >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal >> RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community