I’ve tested, my DNA, at Ancestry, 23 & Me, and FT DNA. I understand why results change in the test over time. But, why is it that I have wildly differing results between ea of the 3 tests? Who is more accurate? I mean, FT DNA says I’m 5% Turkish but I’ve been doing my genealogy for 28 yrs now and I can’t remotely come close to even hazarding a guess. I started DNA testing about 8ish years ago. Ancestry says I’m I’m 22% Scottish and Irish which I’m guessing is roughly accurate. But then when I click on the regions it says I have no connections in Ireland or Scotland. Well, 1, they’re the ones who said I did. And 2, if it’s based off reading my tree I’d guess that ~30% of my tree is tagged with a Scotland or Ireland location. And of course it has no indication of any Turkish DNA at all. And 23 & Me has .3% in the Turkey region which is a far cry from 5%. 23 & Me has me with 19.4% German, which is likely right based on what I know of my family. But Ancestry and FT DNA don’t show any German at all. And the 3 tests swing somewhere (totaled together) b/w 40% and 92% for England/Scotland/Wales/Ireland. What’s with such a wide swing? Thanks! Sent from my iPhone

I have only tested at 23andMe and FTDNA.  The MY Origins report from 23andMe corresponds almost exactly to what I know about my ancestors from conventional research, with many of my ancestral lines going back to the 1600s. Although the MY Origins report from FTDNA was never as accurate as 23andMe, it was more more closely aligned to my research than it is now, since they updated that report the last time. My paternal yDNA haplogroup is I-Y10633>I-SK1234.  My maternal mtDNA haplogroup is V3c.  V3c is connected to both Iberia and Scandinavia.  I have no known connection to Iberia.  My maternal great-grandmother was from Northern Germany.  I therefore conclude my V3c is most likely Scandinavian. I have concluded, the problem with FTDNA is that these two haplogroups are very young, around 10,000 years old or less. There are not very many people in those haplogroup, so it is not cost effective for FTDNA to develop the necessary tests, to confirm those haplogroups. One of my project members did one of those I panels at at FTDNA, after he had tested with another company and knew he was I-Y10633.  The closest FTDNA could get was DF29, which is only the second branch in the I haplogroup.  And if you look closely, almost none of the individual SNPs in the I  haplegroup tree can be ordered alone.  The only way you can get that information is to order a Big Y or a Big 500. Anyway, none of my Scandinavian ancestry shows up on MY Origins at FTDNA. Marleen Van Horne

Ethnicity is still "not soup yet," as The Legal Genealogist says. I put no credence in it, especially since my full sister and I have wildly different results at all the companies. On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 7:23 PM Laura Stewart <laurasgenealogy@gmail.com> wrote: > I’ve tested, my DNA, at Ancestry, 23 & Me, and FT DNA. I understand why > results change in the test over time. But, why is it that I have wildly > differing results between ea of the 3 tests? Who is more accurate? I mean, > FT DNA says I’m 5% Turkish but I’ve been doing my genealogy for 28 yrs now > and I can’t remotely come close to even hazarding a guess. I started DNA > testing about 8ish years ago. Ancestry says I’m I’m 22% Scottish and Irish > which I’m guessing is roughly accurate. But then when I click on the > regions it says I have no connections in Ireland or Scotland. Well, 1, > they’re the ones who said I did. And 2, if it’s based off reading my tree > I’d guess that ~30% of my tree is tagged with a Scotland or Ireland > location. And of course it has no indication of any Turkish DNA at all. > And 23 & Me has .3% in the Turkey region which is a far cry from 5%. 23 & > Me has me with 19.4% German, which is likely right based on what I know of > my family. But Ancestry and FT DNA don’t show any German at all. And the 3 > tests swing somewhere (totaled together) b/w 40% and 92% for > England/Scotland/Wales/Ireland. What’s with such a wide swing? > > Thanks! > > > Sent from my iPhone > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > -- https://www.doriswheeler.org https://genealogyanddna.blogspot.com/

Germany was a crossroads throughout history so there is no German ethnicity in the DNA. North Germans can look Scandinavian, west Germans French, east Germans eastern European and south Germans italian Plus remember that Saxony is in Germany so that is roughly where those Saxons who settled England came from ... so British can be german Ethnicity results reach further back in time than our genealogies...and the ottoman empire (Turks) conquered large sections of eastern Europe. See if this post helps http://blog.kittycooper.com/2016/04/ancestry-composition-comparisons-a-case-study/ Or this more recent one http://blog.kittycooper.com/2017/05/norwegian-or-english-dna-predictions/ On Sat, Oct 20, 2018, 4:23 PM Laura Stewart <laurasgenealogy@gmail.com> wrote: > I’ve tested, my DNA, at Ancestry, 23 & Me, and FT DNA. I understand why > results change in the test over time. But, why is it that I have wildly > differing results between ea of the 3 tests? Who is more accurate? I mean, > FT DNA says I’m 5% Turkish but I’ve been doing my genealogy for 28 yrs now > and I can’t remotely come close to even hazarding a guess. I started DNA > testing about 8ish years ago. Ancestry says I’m I’m 22% Scottish and Irish > which I’m guessing is roughly accurate. But then when I click on the > regions it says I have no connections in Ireland or Scotland. Well, 1, > they’re the ones who said I did. And 2, if it’s based off reading my tree > I’d guess that ~30% of my tree is tagged with a Scotland or Ireland > location. And of course it has no indication of any Turkish DNA at all. > And 23 & Me has .3% in the Turkey region which is a far cry from 5%. 23 & > Me has me with 19.4% German, which is likely right based on what I know of > my family. But Ancestry and FT DNA don’t show any German at all. And the 3 > tests swing somewhere (totaled together) b/w 40% and 92% for > England/Scotland/Wales/Ireland. What’s with such a wide swing? > > Thanks! > > > Sent from my iPhone > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Thanks! And when I said German, more accurately it’s Prussia. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 21, 2018, at 10:32 AM, Kitty Cooper <kittymcooper@gmail.com> wrote: > > Germany was a crossroads throughout history so there is no German ethnicity > in the DNA. North Germans can look Scandinavian, west Germans French, east > Germans eastern European and south Germans italian > > Plus remember that Saxony is in Germany so that is roughly where those > Saxons who settled England came from ... so British can be german > > Ethnicity results reach further back in time than our genealogies...and the > ottoman empire (Turks) conquered large sections of eastern Europe. > > See if this post helps > http://blog.kittycooper.com/2016/04/ancestry-composition-comparisons-a-case-study/ > > Or this more recent one > http://blog.kittycooper.com/2017/05/norwegian-or-english-dna-predictions/ > > On Sat, Oct 20, 2018, 4:23 PM Laura Stewart <laurasgenealogy@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> I’ve tested, my DNA, at Ancestry, 23 & Me, and FT DNA. I understand why >> results change in the test over time. But, why is it that I have wildly >> differing results between ea of the 3 tests? Who is more accurate? I mean, >> FT DNA says I’m 5% Turkish but I’ve been doing my genealogy for 28 yrs now >> and I can’t remotely come close to even hazarding a guess. I started DNA >> testing about 8ish years ago. Ancestry says I’m I’m 22% Scottish and Irish >> which I’m guessing is roughly accurate. But then when I click on the >> regions it says I have no connections in Ireland or Scotland. Well, 1, >> they’re the ones who said I did. And 2, if it’s based off reading my tree >> I’d guess that ~30% of my tree is tagged with a Scotland or Ireland >> location. And of course it has no indication of any Turkish DNA at all. >> And 23 & Me has .3% in the Turkey region which is a far cry from 5%. 23 & >> Me has me with 19.4% German, which is likely right based on what I know of >> my family. But Ancestry and FT DNA don’t show any German at all. And the 3 >> tests swing somewhere (totaled together) b/w 40% and 92% for >> England/Scotland/Wales/Ireland. What’s with such a wide swing? >> >> Thanks! >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> community >> > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Dear Laura, There are pros and cons for the ethnicity estimates for each of these companies. Each of these companies have their own way of approaching this problem. Unfortunately, it is very difficult to trace the origin of most DNA segments to a specific country in Europe because many DNA segments are actually found in multiple countries throughout Europe. One of the major features I like that 23andMe provides that none of the other companies provides is chromosome painting. 23andMe calls this feature "Ancestry Composition". It appears that within Europe, Ashkenazi Jewish DNA and Finnish DNA is the easiest for companies to identify. I summarize some of the pros and cons of the ethnicity estimates for each of the major DNA testing companies at https://isogg.org/wiki/Autosomal_DNA_testing_comparison_chart in the section "Overall accuracy and sophistication of the biogeographical ancestry analysis rated on a 1-10 scale with 10 being excellent and 1 being poor". Sincerely, Tim Janzen -----Original Message----- From: Laura Stewart [mailto:laurasgenealogy@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2018 4:23 PM To: Genealogy DNA list Subject: [DNA] Test differences? I’ve tested, my DNA, at Ancestry, 23 & Me, and FT DNA. I understand why results change in the test over time. But, why is it that I have wildly differing results between ea of the 3 tests? Who is more accurate? I mean, FT DNA says I’m 5% Turkish but I’ve been doing my genealogy for 28 yrs now and I can’t remotely come close to even hazarding a guess. I started DNA testing about 8ish years ago. Ancestry says I’m I’m 22% Scottish and Irish which I’m guessing is roughly accurate. But then when I click on the regions it says I have no connections in Ireland or Scotland. Well, 1, they’re the ones who said I did. And 2, if it’s based off reading my tree I’d guess that ~30% of my tree is tagged with a Scotland or Ireland location. And of course it has no indication of any Turkish DNA at all. And 23 & Me has .3% in the Turkey region which is a far cry from 5%. 23 & Me has me with 19.4% German, which is likely right based on what I know of my family. But Ancestry and FT DNA don’t show any German at all. And the 3 tests swing somewhere (totaled together) b/w 40% and 92% for England/Scotland/Wales/Ireland. What’s with such a wide swing? Thanks!