List, As many will have noticed FTDNA have in recent week been tinkering with BigY matching and haplogroup classifications. It is pleasing that FTDNA are putting so much effort into this, as there are many complex issues involved. For my own subclade where there are close to 20 BigYs, FTDNA are making good progress, and now have the tree structure of recognised SNPs for my smaller subclade starting to make it to their tree and system. The Y haplotree is becoming increasingly complex as new data floods in for more recent branches. There may be a little tweaking of the system to knock bits into the right shape, but thanks from me to FTDNA for their efforts and progress so far. John. Sent from my iPad