Those 486 relatives come from all different branches and not just from the male-only line. So get your father tested at 23andme and then there is a chrome browser extension which you install, you surf to the phylotree and you copy/upload (don't remember exactly) your father's results there, select the result in the browser and it shows you along the various SNP where the tester is positive/negative or unknown (as 23andme is not testing all relevant SNP's). IMO with the progress that is made on Big-Y and Full-Y the STR method (which is what the standard FTDNA gives you) is anyway only a very high level result and pretty much useless especially if he's from a very popular R1 subgroup. I also found it quite irritating that FTDNA put me higher up the phylotree with their 67 marker STR method than what could be identified with the SNP's tested at 23andme. In summary, the FTDNA 67 marker was a big disappointment for me. Btw, the above method is if you want to known more details about where in the downstream of the reported Y-DNA and mtDNA (as your father will get both) your father is. 23andme automatically reports the results, so if you want to know both are shown on their screen and the chrome extension isn't necessary to find out, sorry if that confuses you (it's more an expert option with manual work). Andreas > On Dec 5, 2015, at 05:05, Barbara Ryan via <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Since I am female, I only received my maternal haplogroup (H7) from 23andMe. > However, in looking at the paternal haplogroups of my 486 relatives who have > one, 271 have a paternal haplogroup starting with R1b1b2. My father's > grandfather is from Ireland. Is it likely that my father (deceased) had > this haplogroup? > > Thanks, > Barb > > Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2015 17:47:30 +0000 > From: "McDonald, J Douglas" <jdmcdona@illinois.edu> > Subject: Re: [DNA] Y-DNA test - which one? > > 23andme does not do "predicted" haplogroups. They only do SNP tests, so > unless there is a mistake what they say is for sure. Of course, their > assignment is rather coarse. > > Doug McDonald > > -----Original Message----- > From: genealogy-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:genealogy-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mary E Hall via > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2015 9:08 AM > To: Barbara Ryan; genealogy-dna > Subject: Re: [DNA] Y-DNA test - which one? > > Barb- > > What was your father's predicted haplogroup at 23andMe? That will provide a > good indication of how many markers he would need to test at FamilyTree DNA > in order to (hope to) find meaningful information on the paternal line. > > Mary > > > Mary E Hall > Santa Barbara, CA > > On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 5:39 AM, Barbara Ryan via <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com >> wrote: > >> I have taken the autosomal test at 23andMe but am interested in >> pursuing my father's line (surname) so would like to purchase a Y-DNA >> test kit for my brother to use. >> >> >> >> Which company's test is best, or is FTDNA the only one that offers it? >> >> Is the 37 markers test sufficient? Are additional markers cost effective? >> >> Are the current holiday discounts substantial, or does FT typically >> offer discounts throughout the year? >> >> >> >> Thanks! >> Barb R. >> >> > ********************************************** > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message