I have a $100.00 coupon available for the big Y Email me Janis -----Original Message----- From: genealogy-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:genealogy-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of genealogy-dna-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 1:38 PM To: genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com Subject: GENEALOGY-DNA Digest, Vol 10, Issue 715 Today's Topics: 1. Re: My First NPE (Lindsey Britton) 2. Problem at the Britton Project (Lindsey Britton) 3. Re: Problem at the Britton Project (Rebekah Canada) 4. Re: My First NPE (Karla Huebner) 5. Re: My First NPE (Lindsey Britton) 6. Re: My First NPE (Karla Huebner) 7. Re: My First NPE (Lindsey Britton) 8. Re: The A00 Cameroon Research Project asks for your support (Bonnie Schrack) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2015 09:51:10 -0500 From: Lindsey Britton <lplantagenet@aol.com> Subject: Re: [DNA] My First NPE To: GENEALOGY-DNA@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <151f88564dc-3ed-11421@webprd-m26.mail.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Maybe this is why I am having so much trouble with FF. I know my ancestry, but my matches don't. I sent about 60 e-mails to 2-4th cousin matches earlier this week along with a detailed chart of my mother's ancestors back to the 3rd-5th great grandparents. Of course, I have gaps as most of us do. Gaps are inevitable in Virginia's burned record counties. What is not inevitable is tracing lines in burned record counties back to the 1600s and I have quite a few of those, too. Since 2nd to 4th cousins share ancestry no further back that 3rd great grandparents, I felt sure some of these matches would recognize one or two of my lines, but alas, I was wrong. I did get many replies, but no clues. The most likely was from someone in Scotland who said his ancestors came from Galloway where my mother's 2nd great grandfather Kevan was born. Lindsey PS I tried GEDMATCH, but am a bit disappointed. I like the Are your parents related? tool, the Phasing tool which I intend to use once I get my results, and the Lazarus tool sounds interesting if I can find enough relatives on the same line to try it, which doesn't seem likely at this point, but FTDNA's match lists and ICW tool are easier to use and results for the Heritage tools at GEDMATCH are wild. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2015 09:53:30 -0500 From: Lindsey Britton <lplantagenet@aol.com> Subject: [DNA] Problem at the Britton Project To: GENEALOGY-DNA@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <151f88788f8-3ed-11434@webprd-m26.mail.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Where do I write for help with an account in my Britton Project? Lindsey ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2015 09:13:27 -0600 From: Rebekah Canada <rebekahc@genebygene.com> Subject: Re: [DNA] Problem at the Britton Project To: "genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com" <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <CADjN41wJOEEatXuFHD49=bMOYwSELN=GhU0Lb84NSaYxiNH0Pg@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Lindsey, You, as a project administrator, can always write to groups@ftdna.com for help. You can also ask for the GAP team when you call on the phone. 713-868-1438 On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 8:53 AM, Lindsey Britton via <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Where do I write for help with an account in my Britton Project? > > Lindsey > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Regards, Rebekah Canada Gene by Gene -- This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2015 11:26:09 -0500 From: Karla Huebner <calypsospots@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [DNA] My First NPE To: Lindsey Britton <lplantagenet@aol.com>, "genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com" <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <CA+FJH4Om1VEUmht1Y9UvhyVRapQHZaWhY2OLVjS3jyGYMSgXbg@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Family Finder does take time and work. In my own tree I have sufficiently different ethnicities that to some extent I was able to map out portions without asking for family trees; of course, having tested an increasing number of family members has been a big help. I have been able to guess a few people's connection by looking at surname lists, but mostly not, due to patronymics and overly common surnames. This morning I'm embarking on a big new area--I was able to get a FF test done for a man listed in the Todd project as having a shared ancestral couple born in the 1770s, and his results are now available to me. One of his matches also matches one of my Todd descendants (he himself does not come up as a match for anyone I've tested but the three match on the same basic segment), and his closest match lists a couple of familiar surnames with the right locations. However, it'll be a big jigsaw puzzle working with his DNA especially given that FTDNA hasn't matched him to anyone else I've tested. Just keep chipping away at it and the discoveries will come. On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 9:51 AM, Lindsey Britton via < genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > Maybe this is why I am having so much trouble with FF. I know my > ancestry, but my matches don't. I sent about 60 e-mails to 2-4th > cousin matches earlier this week along with a detailed chart of my > mother's ancestors back to the 3rd-5th great grandparents. Of course, > I have gaps as most of us do. Gaps are inevitable in Virginia's > burned record counties. What is not inevitable is tracing lines in > burned record counties back to the 1600s and I have quite a few of > those, too. Since 2nd to 4th cousins share ancestry no further back > that 3rd great grandparents, I felt sure some of these matches would > recognize one or two of my lines, but alas, I was wrong. I did get > many replies, but no clues. The most likely was from someone in > Scotland who said his ancestors came from Galloway where my mother's 2nd great grandfather Kevan was born. > > Lindsey > > PS I tried GEDMATCH, but am a bit disappointed. I like the Are your > parents related? tool, the Phasing tool which I intend to use once I > get my results, and the Lazarus tool sounds interesting if I can find > enough relatives on the same line to try it, which doesn't seem likely > at this point, but FTDNA's match lists and ICW tool are easier to use > and results for the Heritage tools at GEDMATCH are wild. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Karla Huebner calypsospots AT gmail.com ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2015 11:38:30 -0500 From: Lindsey Britton <lplantagenet@aol.com> Subject: Re: [DNA] My First NPE To: calypsospots@gmail.com, genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <151f8e7aa47-6f62-12534@webprd-m54.mail.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I've identified three ancestral pairs based on 1) 2nd cousin relationship and surname list 2) Oxfordshire ancestry (4th cousin once removed) and 3) rare surname (5th cousin once removed) However, I think the key to success lies in persuading cousins to test and that's not easy because of the work required and the low success rate unless many participate, especially when the cousins all have long pedigrees going back in many cases to 17th century ancestors or beyond. Their view is : what's the point or what's our chance of bridging any gaps? Lindsey -----Original Message----- From: Karla Huebner <calypsospots@gmail.com> To: Lindsey Britton <lplantagenet@aol.com>; genealogy-dna <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2015 11:26 am Subject: Re: [DNA] My First NPE Family Finder does take time and work. In my own tree I have sufficiently different ethnicities that to some extent I was able to map out portions without asking for family trees; of course, having tested an increasing number of family members has been a big help. I have been able to guess a few people's connection by looking at surname lists, but mostly not, due to patronymics and overly common surnames. This morning I'm embarking on a big new area--I was able to get a FF test done for a man listed in the Todd project as having a shared ancestral couple born in the 1770s, and his results are now available to me. One of his matches also matches one of my Todd descendants (he himself does not come up as a match for anyone I've tested but the three match on the same basic segment), and his closest match lists a couple of familiar surnames with the right locations. However, it'll be a big jigsaw puzzle working with his DNA especially given that FTDNA hasn't matched him to anyone else I've tested. Just keep chipping away at it and the discoveries will come. On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 9:51 AM, Lindsey Britton via <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: Maybe this is why I am having so much trouble with FF. I know my ancestry, but my matches don't. I sent about 60 e-mails to 2-4th cousin matches earlier this week along with a detailed chart of my mother's ancestors back to the 3rd-5th great grandparents. Of course, I have gaps as most of us do. Gaps are inevitable in Virginia's burned record counties. What is not inevitable is tracing lines in burned record counties back to the 1600s and I have quite a few of those, too. Since 2nd to 4th cousins share ancestry no further back that 3rd great grandparents, I felt sure some of these matches would recognize one or two of my lines, but alas, I was wrong. I did get many replies, but no clues. The most likely was from someone in Scotland who said his ancestors came from Galloway where my mother's 2nd great grandfather Kevan was born. Lindsey PS I tried GEDMATCH, but am a bit disappointed. I like the Are your parents related? tool, the Phasing tool which I intend to use once I get my results, and the Lazarus tool sounds interesting if I can find enough relatives on the same line to try it, which doesn't seem likely at this point, but FTDNA's match lists and ICW tool are easier to use and results for the Heritage tools at GEDMATCH are wild. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Karla Huebner calypsospots AT gmail.com ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2015 11:46:17 -0500 From: Karla Huebner <calypsospots@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [DNA] My First NPE To: Lindsey Britton <lplantagenet@aol.com> Cc: "genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com" <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <CA+FJH4NwZg0+WeCEwE4ozFvHqB4ccYYhKR4d5XSpJXs2n1Q14A@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Testing cousins is vital. I'm always delighted when one of them is willing to pay, but I figure I can't expect them to finance my hobby (even if they're also into family history). Karla On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 11:38 AM, Lindsey Britton <lplantagenet@aol.com> wrote: > I've identified three ancestral pairs based on 1) 2nd cousin relationship > and surname list 2) Oxfordshire ancestry (4th cousin once removed) and 3) > rare surname (5th cousin once removed) > > However, I think the key to success lies in persuading cousins to test and > that's not easy because of the work required and the low success rate > unless many participate, especially when the cousins all have long > pedigrees going back in many cases to 17th century ancestors or beyond. > Their view is : what's the point or what's our chance of bridging any gaps? > > Lindsey > > -----Original Message----- > From: Karla Huebner <calypsospots@gmail.com> > To: Lindsey Britton <lplantagenet@aol.com>; genealogy-dna < > genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2015 11:26 am > Subject: Re: [DNA] My First NPE > > Family Finder does take time and work. In my own tree I have sufficiently > different ethnicities that to some extent I was able to map out portions > without asking for family trees; of course, having tested an increasing > number of family members has been a big help. > > I have been able to guess a few people's connection by looking at surname > lists, but mostly not, due to patronymics and overly common surnames. This > morning I'm embarking on a big new area--I was able to get a FF test done > for a man listed in the Todd project as having a shared ancestral couple > born in the 1770s, and his results are now available to me. One of his > matches also matches one of my Todd descendants (he himself does not come > up as a match for anyone I've tested but the three match on the same basic > segment), and his closest match lists a couple of familiar surnames with > the right locations. However, it'll be a big jigsaw puzzle working with his > DNA especially given that FTDNA hasn't matched him to anyone else I've > tested. > > Just keep chipping away at it and the discoveries will come. > > On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 9:51 AM, Lindsey Britton via < > genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > >> >> >> Maybe this is why I am having so much trouble with FF. I know my >> ancestry, but my matches don't. I sent about 60 e-mails to 2-4th cousin >> matches earlier this week along with a detailed chart of my mother's >> ancestors back to the 3rd-5th great grandparents. Of course, I have gaps >> as most of us do. Gaps are inevitable in Virginia's burned record >> counties. What is not inevitable is tracing lines in burned record >> counties back to the 1600s and I have quite a few of those, too. Since 2nd >> to 4th cousins share ancestry no further back that 3rd great grandparents, >> I felt sure some of these matches would recognize one or two of my lines, >> but alas, I was wrong. I did get many replies, but no clues. The most >> likely was from someone in Scotland who said his ancestors came from >> Galloway where my mother's 2nd great grandfather Kevan was born. >> >> Lindsey >> >> PS I tried GEDMATCH, but am a bit disappointed. I like the Are your >> parents related? tool, the Phasing tool which I intend to use once I get my >> results, and the Lazarus tool sounds interesting if I can find enough >> relatives on the same line to try it, which doesn't seem likely at this >> point, but FTDNA's match lists and ICW tool are easier to use and results >> for the Heritage tools at GEDMATCH are wild. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > -- > Karla Huebner > calypsospots AT gmail.com > -- Karla Huebner calypsospots AT gmail.com ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2015 11:53:27 -0500 From: Lindsey Britton <lplantagenet@aol.com> Subject: Re: [DNA] My First NPE To: calypsospots@gmail.com Cc: genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <151f8f559b7-6f62-125dc@webprd-m54.mail.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Maybe I spoke too quickly--just had an invitation to a tree at Ancestry where I immediately noticed the name Spencer Bobo Moore. Spencer Bobo was a descendant of my ancestor Thomas Spencer, although Thomas was born in the mid 17th century. Anyhow, the unusual name makes me wonder whether this is more than coincidence. You are right--I don't expect people to pay if they aren't interested, but since I don't like paying for tests except for immediate family members, I will either have to find cousins who want to participate or identify some who are already in the database. Lindsey -----Original Message----- From: Karla Huebner <calypsospots@gmail.com> To: Lindsey Britton <lplantagenet@aol.com> Cc: genealogy-dna <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2015 11:46 am Subject: Re: [DNA] My First NPE Testing cousins is vital. I'm always delighted when one of them is willing to pay, but I figure I can't expect them to finance my hobby (even if they're also into family history). Karla On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 11:38 AM, Lindsey Britton <lplantagenet@aol.com> wrote: I've identified three ancestral pairs based on 1) 2nd cousin relationship and surname list 2) Oxfordshire ancestry (4th cousin once removed) and 3) rare surname (5th cousin once removed) However, I think the key to success lies in persuading cousins to test and that's not easy because of the work required and the low success rate unless many participate, especially when the cousins all have long pedigrees going back in many cases to 17th century ancestors or beyond. Their view is : what's the point or what's our chance of bridging any gaps? Lindsey -----Original Message----- From: Karla Huebner <calypsospots@gmail.com> To: Lindsey Britton <lplantagenet@aol.com>; genealogy-dna <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2015 11:26 am Subject: Re: [DNA] My First NPE Family Finder does take time and work. In my own tree I have sufficiently different ethnicities that to some extent I was able to map out portions without asking for family trees; of course, having tested an increasing number of family members has been a big help. I have been able to guess a few people's connection by looking at surname lists, but mostly not, due to patronymics and overly common surnames. This morning I'm embarking on a big new area--I was able to get a FF test done for a man listed in the Todd project as having a shared ancestral couple born in the 1770s, and his results are now available to me. One of his matches also matches one of my Todd descendants (he himself does not come up as a match for anyone I've tested but the three match on the same basic segment), and his closest match lists a couple of familiar surnames with the right locations. However, it'll be a big jigsaw puzzle working with his DNA especially given that FTDNA hasn't matched him to anyone else I've tested. Just keep chipping away at it and the discoveries will come. On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 9:51 AM, Lindsey Britton via <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: Maybe this is why I am having so much trouble with FF. I know my ancestry, but my matches don't. I sent about 60 e-mails to 2-4th cousin matches earlier this week along with a detailed chart of my mother's ancestors back to the 3rd-5th great grandparents. Of course, I have gaps as most of us do. Gaps are inevitable in Virginia's burned record counties. What is not inevitable is tracing lines in burned record counties back to the 1600s and I have quite a few of those, too. Since 2nd to 4th cousins share ancestry no further back that 3rd great grandparents, I felt sure some of these matches would recognize one or two of my lines, but alas, I was wrong. I did get many replies, but no clues. The most likely was from someone in Scotland who said his ancestors came from Galloway where my mother's 2nd great grandfather Kevan was born. Lindsey PS I tried GEDMATCH, but am a bit disappointed. I like the Are your parents related? tool, the Phasing tool which I intend to use once I get my results, and the Lazarus tool sounds interesting if I can find enough relatives on the same line to try it, which doesn't seem likely at this point, but FTDNA's match lists and ICW tool are easier to use and results for the Heritage tools at GEDMATCH are wild. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Karla Huebner calypsospots AT gmail.com -- Karla Huebner calypsospots AT gmail.com ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2015 13:37:23 -0500 From: Bonnie Schrack <bschrack1@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [DNA] The A00 Cameroon Research Project asks for your support To: Genealogy-DNA@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <568575E3.8060803@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Dear all, We received an outstanding flood of generosity for several days after my initial posting about our project. I'm so grateful to this community! Our total is now at $6300. However, the job is not yet done. While you're busy making your last-minute charitable donations, please take a minute to help us reach our goal by January 6th. The end is in sight! We're still $1355 short -- not bad, but it means we need a number of people to pitch in. http://Experiment.com/A00west I think there must be a few of you who are waiting to the last minute, to see how much we'll need to put us over the top. There's no need to wait, as you can easily increase your donation on Jan. 5th if you see that we need it. Plans are going forward for Thomas' trip to Cameroon in late January. In addition to helping with sampling and returning results to donors, he's going to be sending back a lot of pictures and geospatial data, maybe even live video! Please help us get ready, and not run out of the support needed to send Matthew out to collect the samples, and for YSEQ to test them. I've been looking at the most unusual haplotypes, other than the 35+ A00, from those tested so far. It looks like at least two of them might be Cameroonian R1b! Whit's predictor doesn't include a lot of the relevant African haplogroups, but it classifies another one as Q. In Africa? Maybe an extreme outlying R1b? These obviously will need to have SNPs tested if we ever want to find out what they are! I've just come to the conclusion that another belongs to the rare B1 clade, and it wasn't hard to see that another is A0a1a. Another one could possibly be B2b, but it has no near matches, it's still a mystery. At least one is E1a, three of them look like E2, and three others, I'm sure are B2a1. None of these non-A samples will be tested with your current donations to the project, which are for the purpose of learning more about A00. We need to focus, first and foremost, on meeting the goal of our campaign at Experiment.com, because remember, without the A00 project going forward, we won't be able to continue collecting and discovering such rare kinds of Y-DNA. If you have already donated to the project and would like to send us something to help identify the mystery samples, you may send a donation to the PayPal account and designate it for that purpose. Thanks! Bonnie http://experiment.com/A00west ------------------------------ To contact the GENEALOGY-DNA list administrator, send an email to GENEALOGY-DNA-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the GENEALOGY-DNA mailing list, send an email to GENEALOGY-DNA@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. 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