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    1. Re: [DNA] Where to yDNA Test
    2. G. Magoon via
    3. Personally I don't see it so cut and dried…I don't dispute that there are some arguments that might favor FTDNA over YSEQ for the 37-marker Y-STR test, but cost is not one of them in this case. Even the current FTDNA sale price for the 37-marker test is over 60% higher than the same test at YSEQ. It is true that non-FTDNA customers results would not be included on the FTDNA hosted website for a Y-DNA project...but is the value gained from this really worth the extra cost, especially when testing price can be a constraint for many prospective testers? A sufficiently competent Y-DNA project admin can readily assimilate data from consenting sources such as Y-SEQ testers, and host them in a Google Spreadsheet, for example. Personally, I'm in the early stages of setting up a Y-DNA project without a corresponding FTDNA project page, and I'm planning to use this sort of Google Spreadsheet approach myself. I believe YSEQ may also have a basic project infrastructure (but I'm not sure about that). That's just my two cents. Greg On Sat, Dec 5, 2015 at 4:27 PM, Loretta Layman via < genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Thank you for sharing your experience on this subject Linda. In spite of > it's being no more perfect than any business entity in the world, FTDNA is > the only choice - certainly the only wise choice - for Y-DNA (STR) testing. > > Loretta > > -----Original Message----- > From: genealogy-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:genealogy-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of McKee via > Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2015 4:21 PM > To: genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Subject: [DNA] Where to yDNA Test > > Dear List Membership, > > > Recently, Mary Hall queried this forum about yDNA testing. > > I am reading the digests all at one late date here and the thread has moved > on. > > > However, I would like to do a follow up about Greg's message in a > roundabout way without making any judgement. > > In one of the FTDNA yDNA projects that I admin and happening on the new My > Groups part of the project, posts were made by some group members > advising people to test > at ySEQ. > > One lady took the advice of the forum writers and tested yDNA at ySEQ. > > > Some time later she writes that she cannot join FTDNA yDNA groups. > > > After checking all this out we found that the lady paid almost $200.00 to > ySEQ for yDNA testing with the expectations of being able to join the FTDNA > yDNA groups. > > Well, needless to say for all those who are well versed in how this process > all works, the lady was not able to join yDNA groups at FTDNA. Period. > End of story as far as I know. > > > Linda McKee > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    12/05/2015 10:20:33
    1. Re: [DNA] Where to yDNA Test
    2. Larry Vick via
    3. World Families is a great place for the Google Spreadsheet.  That is where we put our project results (FTDNA, YSeq, SMGF, BritainsDNA, etc.). Regards, Larry From: G. Magoon via <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> To: Loretta Layman <lynneage@h-o-l.com>; "genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com" <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> Cc: McKee <ldm.127187@gmail.com> Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2015 5:20 PM Subject: Re: [DNA] Where to yDNA Test Personally I don't see it so cut and dried…I don't dispute that there are some arguments that might favor FTDNA over YSEQ for the 37-marker Y-STR test, but cost is not one of them in this case. Even the current FTDNA sale price for the 37-marker test is over 60% higher than the same test at YSEQ. It is true that non-FTDNA customers results would not be included on the FTDNA hosted website for a Y-DNA project...but is the value gained from this really worth the extra cost, especially when testing price can be a constraint for many prospective testers?  A sufficiently competent Y-DNA project admin can readily assimilate data from consenting sources such as Y-SEQ testers, and host them in a Google Spreadsheet, for example. Personally, I'm in the early stages of setting up a Y-DNA project without a corresponding FTDNA project page, and I'm planning to use this sort of Google Spreadsheet approach myself. I believe YSEQ may also have a basic project infrastructure (but I'm not sure about that). That's just my two cents. Greg

    12/05/2015 03:29:35
    1. Re: [DNA] Where to yDNA Test
    2. Atanas Kumbarov via
    3. I personally grew tired of FTDNA's bugs and long wait times so I switched to YSEQ. Their tests are more than two times cheaper than FTDNA's and the results come within weeks. Not to mention that YSEQ are very flexible - today you request an SNP and it is in their catalog tomorrow. I am co-admin of a large FTDNA project and we have requested many SNPs in the past year but FTDNA has bean deaf for our requests in the past 10 months or so. Finally, here is my personal project: http://dna.kumbarov.com/ I also have another, Google Docs based, project for a particular haplogroup where I collect data from different sources: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1IlSydR3SyIW7YpHGBO08feux-lqKx1_o4HmwCs6_r08/edit#gid=0 -- Best regards, Atanas Kumbarov http://dna.kumbarov.com/ On 2015-12-05 23:20, G. Magoon via wrote: > Personally I don't see it so cut and dried…I don't dispute that there are > some arguments that might favor FTDNA over YSEQ for the 37-marker Y-STR > test, but cost is not one of them in this case. Even the current FTDNA sale > price for the 37-marker test is over 60% higher than the same test at YSEQ. > > It is true that non-FTDNA customers results would not be included on the > FTDNA hosted website for a Y-DNA project...but is the value gained from > this really worth the extra cost, especially when testing price can be a > constraint for many prospective testers? A sufficiently competent Y-DNA > project admin can readily assimilate data from consenting sources such as > Y-SEQ testers, and host them in a Google Spreadsheet, for example. > Personally, I'm in the early stages of setting up a Y-DNA project without a > corresponding FTDNA project page, and I'm planning to use this sort of > Google Spreadsheet approach myself. I believe YSEQ may also have a basic > project infrastructure (but I'm not sure about that). > > That's just my two cents. > > Greg > > On Sat, Dec 5, 2015 at 4:27 PM, Loretta Layman via < > genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > >> Thank you for sharing your experience on this subject Linda. In spite of >> it's being no more perfect than any business entity in the world, FTDNA is >> the only choice - certainly the only wise choice - for Y-DNA (STR) testing. >> >> Loretta >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: genealogy-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:genealogy-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of McKee via >> Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2015 4:21 PM >> To: genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [DNA] Where to yDNA Test >> >> Dear List Membership, >> >> >> Recently, Mary Hall queried this forum about yDNA testing. >> >> I am reading the digests all at one late date here and the thread has moved >> on. >> >> >> However, I would like to do a follow up about Greg's message in a >> roundabout way without making any judgement. >> >> In one of the FTDNA yDNA projects that I admin and happening on the new My >> Groups part of the project, posts were made by some group members >> advising people to test >> at ySEQ. >> >> One lady took the advice of the forum writers and tested yDNA at ySEQ. >> >> >> Some time later she writes that she cannot join FTDNA yDNA groups. >> >> >> After checking all this out we found that the lady paid almost $200.00 to >> ySEQ for yDNA testing with the expectations of being able to join the FTDNA >> yDNA groups. >> >> Well, needless to say for all those who are well versed in how this process >> all works, the lady was not able to join yDNA groups at FTDNA. Period. >> End of story as far as I know. >> >> >> Linda McKee >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    12/06/2015 10:06:30