- We had three ancient Northern J1 results: 1- Sarmatian J1, Beslan, North Ossetia (2/3 C. A.D.) Gennady Afanasiev. Khazar Confederates in the Don basin. Pure research methods and the paradigm of modern archeology. M. 2015. S.146-153. (Afanasiev:2015). 2 - Karelian J1 Eastern Hunther-Gatherer from Russia, Yuzhnyy Oleni Ostrov [I0211/UzOO 40], M, 5500-5000 BC. (Mathieson:2015). 3 - Satsurblia cave J1, Georgia, F4306+, 13000 YBP (Jones:2015). - We have discovered and confirmed our own 14000 years old branch SNP FGC6064 comparing my results FTDNA 73612-YFull YF01554 (I have 188 new SNPs to be tested FGC5987 to FGC6175) with the Big Y results from Kitching, England, 381875-YF03848. - FTDNA is still boycotting our J1-M365 SNP. M365 was discovered in 2004, the M365 SNP has been in ISOGG's list since 2006 and M365 is also present at the last Y Chromosome Consortium (YCC). I had M365 as my terminal SNP in FTDNA in 2007. People from my J-M365 Project paid and tested positive for M365. We have M365+ in our J1 report. We have several people now listed as J1-M267 and not J1-M365 as our terminal SNP. We have recurrent SNPs in the case of almost all SNPs and M365 is quite old, so it was found and listed in other branches, like R-M365 in FTDNA's haplotree. Our J1-M365 was discovered in 2004 and is extremely valid, useful and important. So we are only asking to our terminal J1-M365 SNP to be where it was in FTDNA haplotree in 2007 because we paid, tested positive and that's our J1 group. Please FTDNA, we need our J1-M365 downstream SNP of FGC6064 in the haplotree. - YFull tree, the best NGS public tree, now has J1-M365 as a node. Now we are waiting the analysis of another Portuguese Big Y BAM YF04781 results there. - Now it's obvious that J1 was born and emerged in the Northern Near Eastern regions around the Black Sea, Eastern Anatolia, the Caucasus, the Caspian Sea and Northern Iran where the ancient types of J1 and the basal branches were discovered and still can be found there nowadays. No research or article has ever investigated basal types and SNPs of J1 from the cradle areas. We depend on the private tests and the citizen scientists only. I need some Gilaki and Caspian or Northern Iranian J1 types matching our M365 cluster in terms of STR to be fully sequenced with NGS. I will pay and finance that research but I need the samples ! Let's wait 2016. A Ricardo Merry Christmas and Happy New Year !

Hi Ricardo, Merry Christmas & Happy New Year! Write to Mr. Greenspan , tell him your story and the J1-M365 results of testing and findings. I'm sure FTDNA will add your branch onto "Haplotree", You may have already done that though? Al On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 4:30 AM, Ricardo Costa de Oliveira via < genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > - We had three ancient Northern J1 results: > > 1- Sarmatian J1, Beslan, North Ossetia (2/3 C. A.D.) Gennady Afanasiev. > Khazar Confederates in the Don basin. Pure research methods and the > paradigm of modern archeology. M. 2015. S.146-153. (Afanasiev:2015). > > 2 - Karelian J1 Eastern Hunther-Gatherer from Russia, Yuzhnyy Oleni > Ostrov [I0211/UzOO 40], M, 5500-5000 BC. (Mathieson:2015). > > 3 - Satsurblia cave J1, Georgia, F4306+, 13000 YBP (Jones:2015). > > - We have discovered and confirmed our own 14000 years old branch SNP > FGC6064 comparing my results FTDNA 73612-YFull YF01554 (I have 188 new > SNPs to be tested FGC5987 to FGC6175) with the Big Y results from > Kitching, England, 381875-YF03848. > > - FTDNA is still boycotting our J1-M365 SNP. M365 was discovered in > 2004, the M365 SNP has been in ISOGG's list since 2006 and M365 is also > present at the last Y Chromosome Consortium (YCC). I had M365 as my > terminal SNP in FTDNA in 2007. People from my J-M365 Project paid and > tested positive for M365. We have M365+ in our J1 report. We have > several people now listed as J1-M267 and not J1-M365 as our terminal > SNP. We have recurrent SNPs in the case of almost all SNPs and M365 is > quite old, so it was found and listed in other branches, like R-M365 in > FTDNA's haplotree. Our J1-M365 was discovered in 2004 and is extremely > valid, useful and important. So we are only asking to our terminal > J1-M365 SNP to be where it was in FTDNA haplotree in 2007 because we > paid, tested positive and that's our J1 group. Please FTDNA, we need > our J1-M365 downstream SNP of FGC6064 in the haplotree. > > - YFull tree, the best NGS public tree, now has J1-M365 as a node. Now > we are waiting the analysis of another Portuguese Big Y BAM YF04781 > results there. > > - Now it's obvious that J1 was born and emerged in the Northern Near > Eastern regions around the Black Sea, Eastern Anatolia, the Caucasus, > the Caspian Sea and Northern Iran where the ancient types of J1 and the > basal branches were discovered and still can be found there nowadays. > No research or article has ever investigated basal types and SNPs of J1 > from the cradle areas. We depend on the private tests and the citizen > scientists only. I need some Gilaki and Caspian or Northern Iranian J1 > types matching our M365 cluster in terms of STR to be fully sequenced > with NGS. I will pay and finance that research but I need the samples ! > Let's wait 2016. > > A > > Ricardo > > Merry Christmas and Happy New Year ! > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >