one statement hardly constitutes several occassions (I can't help it is repeated in every reply to the same thread-yet it's still only one comment) and I'm sorry if you are offended by my statement but I stand behind my input. And have no worries as it won't affect me personally either way. Thank you for your input too Gregory. I won't get into any petty back and forth with you on semantics. I've said my peace and this had no relevance to the topic. On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Gregory Morley <glmorley@me.com> wrote: > Franklin Genetics: > > You have referred to genetic genealogists who support the identity of DNA > participants as “whiners” on several occasions. Are you not able to > appreciate the opinions of others while still disagreeing with them, or do > you enjoy insulting others, belittling them, and invalidating their > perspectives? > > Hypothetical: What if we refer to your opinions as contemptible, narrow > minded, biased, incompetent, selfish, arrogant and ignorant How would that > make you feel? And because you're so contemptible what if we delete every > one of your posts because there is no way you could ever articulate any > point with any breadth or depth and without insulting others? > > Here’s a suggestion: apologize to the List for your limited and prejudice > views, and start demonstrating appreciation for the offerings of others. > > gm > > > > On Nov 13, 2015, at 10:29 AM, Franklin Genetics via < > genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > > I'm sorry Karla, but I agree with Sam. I have a lady in our Jones group > > sending me questions about DNA testing as her test participant is her son > > at FTDNA and my kits she wants to compare to in order to prove my Jones > > ancestor is hers too, are all at 23andMe. Her son is a police officer > and > > absolutely refused to use gedmatch. So making things harder to privatize > > will only keep more folks scared and confused and have them not joining. > > The only way she might convince him to let her post is if she can assure > > some privacy and the more we are forced to do things that expose personal > > information (your email can usually be found all over the web by a simple > > google to identify you) the less likely the weary will be to participate > at > > all. > > > > Those who wanted folks forced to have an email want to be able to contact > > folks on their list in particular that they currently cannot, however, > > ultimately those kits will simply be removed altogether or folks will use > > an email address that they don't monitor so the whiners likely still will > > not be happy as they still won't get responses. DUH! > > > > Personally I hope the site doesn't lose it's usefulness because of this > and > > I think folks who don't have an email should still be able to use those > > kits to find matches especially if they are gedmatch contributors. To > > boot--this entire force folks to show an email topic was likely started > by > > someone who's never contributed a dime! :( As a webmaster of 20 years > > myself, I can attest that those who have fussed about things on my own > > site, were not contributing in any way to the site's continuation, > support > > or growth. I'd hate to see gedmatch dwindle in use or someone recreate > > it's functionality on another site that allows privacy because this topic > > was every brought up to start with. :( > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Karla Huebner via < > > genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > >> Including an email address is not the same thing as disclosing one's > >> identity. The same person can have a raft of different email addresses > for > >> different purposes. > >> > >> On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Sam Sloan via < > >> genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Sorry. I would not support this change. > >>> > >>> Many people are afraid of identity theft. Many people will not upload > to > >>> gedmatch.com because they fear their identity will be stolen. I have > had > >>> people get very angry with me when I offer to give them a free DNA test > >>> even though I will be paying for it. > >>> > >>> I would rather have incomplete information than no information at all. > >>> > >>> Some day there will be a gigantic family tree and all of us will be on > >> it. > >>> > >>> Sam Sloan > >>> > >>> On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 6:29 AM, Andreas West via < > >>> genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> I've posted my number before when we started this discussion, it was 6 > >> or > >>>> 7% > >>>> if I remember correctly. Indeed, let's hope these people read it and > >>> change > >>>> their settings. > >>>> > >>>> If not, those emotionally not capable of coping with the > disappointment > >>>> (like > >>>> me, who brought this idea up) might break down and cry endlessly > >>>> (attention, > >>>> irony was intended). > >>>> > >>>> Andreas (WEST) born BASSO > >>>> > >>>> My ancestors: [http://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/Basso-Family- > >>>> Tree-23](http://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/Basso-Family-Tree-23) > >>>> "Jim Bartlett via" <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > >>>>> I have less than 1% of my GEDmatch Matches w/o an email. Is this a > >>> major > >>>>> issue for some? With the doubling of of test takers every 14 months, > >>>> I've got > >>>>> my hands full (and my TGs runneth over) with new Matches. I'm trying > >>>> hard to > >>>>> keep up communications - the genealogy part of this puzzle - but am > >>>> slipping > >>>>> behind. I won't miss the very few w/o emails - maybe this policy will > >>>>> convince a few to add their emails. > >>>>> > >>>>> Jim - www.segmentology.org > >>>>> > >>>>>> On Nov 13, 2015, at 1:17 AM, Brooks Family via < > >>>> genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> /"/ /*Effective December 1, 2015, kits with hidden (private) email > >>>>>> addresses// > >>>>>> //will no longer be shown in comparison results. If you have a > >> hidden > >>>>>> email// > >>>>>> //address, you can make it visible by clicking on the EDIT link at > >>> the > >>>>>> bottom// > >>>>>> //of your DNA resources box. *// > >>>>>> //// > >>>>>> //"So will those who have hidden addresses still have access to our > >>>>>> data? It// > >>>>>> //sound like they will not be able to see the results but not sure > >>> if I > >>>>> am// > >>>>>> //reading this correctly"/ > >>>>>> > >>>>>> OMG. The way I read this, it instantly makes private all > >> email-less > >>>>>> kits. It doesn't state that a match list /for that kit /will not > >> be > >>>>>> generated, just that it will not be on any other kits' match lists. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I can see how the change would cut the amount of griping to > >> gedmatch, > >>>>>> but IMO it doesn't solve the problem. Even if the kit owner > >> decided > >>> to > >>>>>> give the kit an email, there's no requirement to answer an email or > >>>>>> share info. I have those now, anyway. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Small matches aren't useful if a kit owner is unresponsive - but > >>> large > >>>>>> matches /are/ even when the owner is unresponsive! They can be used > >>> for > >>>>>> comparisons. And sometimes I can figure out who they are on the > >> site > >>>>>> that the kit came from. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Good grief. > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> ------------------------------- > >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENEALOGY-DNA- > >>>>> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > >> in > >>>> the > >>>>> subject and the body of the message > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ------------------------------- > >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>>> GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > >>>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >>>> > >>> > >>> ------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>> GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Karla Huebner > >> calypsospots AT gmail.com > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Lisa R Franklin RN,BSN > > Admin, Franklin Y DNA Project > > http://trackingyourroots.com/FranklinGenetics/ > > FranklinGenetics@gmail.com > > http://trackingyourroots.com/DNA (How To presentation (23andme), tips, & > > helps. > > > > *2**3**&**m**e**: **The World's Largest database & coincidentally the > ONLY > > one with all the tools you need for genealogy and DNA!--* > > > http://refer.23andme.com/v2/share/6158544791499756901/4672616e6b6c696e47656e657469637340676d61696c2e636f6d > > > > BEST GENETIC GENEALOGY BOOK! > > > http://www.amazon.com/Genetic-Genealogy-Emily-D-Aulicino-ebook/dp/B00HJJWBU2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1391174801&sr=8-1&keywords=Genetic+Genealogy > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- Lisa R Franklin RN,BSN Admin, Franklin Y DNA Project http://trackingyourroots.com/FranklinGenetics/ FranklinGenetics@gmail.com http://trackingyourroots.com/DNA (How To presentation (23andme), tips, & helps. *2**3**&**m**e**: **The World's Largest database & coincidentally the ONLY one with all the tools you need for genealogy and DNA!--* http://refer.23andme.com/v2/share/6158544791499756901/4672616e6b6c696e47656e657469637340676d61696c2e636f6d BEST GENETIC GENEALOGY BOOK! http://www.amazon.com/Genetic-Genealogy-Emily-D-Aulicino-ebook/dp/B00HJJWBU2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1391174801&sr=8-1&keywords=Genetic+Genealogy