Ethnicity predictions ARE most certainly science. I wrote the original FTDNA "Pop finder" and have descendants of that as well as several other different methods of doing it. Its not an "art". What clearly IS "art", however, is EXPLAINING what the science means! Apparently lots of people don;t understand error bars and, more important but vastly harder to explain, the nature of "instability" in assignments. I used to offer a service that explained results to all comers. I had to stop doing it, as I kew all along I would have to some day, when the price dropped to $100. I now only do it for Native Americans, certain specific adoption questions, Clan Donald people, and referrals from people I know on this mailing list. Doug McDonald -----Original Message----- From: genealogy-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:genealogy-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mary E Hall via (And, yes, last week the SBCGS DNA Interest Group discussed "ethnicity" ESTIMATES from all the companies and why they are presently more art than science).