Had to giggle at that one at the same time I grimaced Sam! OUCH! On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 11:41 AM, Sam Sloan <samhsloan@gmail.com> wrote: > I am having a big fight right now. I have a friend who is 87 years old. I > know for a fact that he had intercourse with nearly a thousand women > especially in Japan where he spent 40 years arriving there in 1945 in the > US Army Occupation Forces. He never used protection. He has five children > that we know about and I am sure he has many more that we do not know about. > I got him to take the Family Tree DNA test to see if any of these > children pop up. Now his family his wife and his son are threatening me. > They think I am trying to use this DNA test to steal money from him. (By > the way he is also a millionaire.) The DNA test results are back and it > just shows the usual 1500 matches on gedmatch, no relatives closer than 4th > cousin. > > Sam Sloan > > On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 9:29 AM, ahnen@awest.de via < > genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > >> Just shows that police officers aren't smarter than the average Joe. Some >> people will never understand and we won't convince them. Move on, spend >> your time on other DNA kits were you have people willing to work with you >> on finding the common ancestors. >> >> Andreas >> >> > On Nov 14, 2015, at 00:29, Franklin Genetics via < >> genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> > >> > I'm sorry Karla, but I agree with Sam. I have a lady in our Jones group >> > sending me questions about DNA testing as her test participant is her >> son >> > at FTDNA and my kits she wants to compare to in order to prove my Jones >> > ancestor is hers too, are all at 23andMe. Her son is a police officer >> and >> > absolutely refused to use gedmatch. So making things harder to privatize >> > will only keep more folks scared and confused and have them not joining. >> > The only way she might convince him to let her post is if she can assure >> > some privacy and the more we are forced to do things that expose >> personal >> > information (your email can usually be found all over the web by a >> simple >> > google to identify you) the less likely the weary will be to >> participate at >> > all. >> > >> > Those who wanted folks forced to have an email want to be able to >> contact >> > folks on their list in particular that they currently cannot, however, >> > ultimately those kits will simply be removed altogether or folks will >> use >> > an email address that they don't monitor so the whiners likely still >> will >> > not be happy as they still won't get responses. DUH! >> > >> > Personally I hope the site doesn't lose it's usefulness because of this >> and >> > I think folks who don't have an email should still be able to use those >> > kits to find matches especially if they are gedmatch contributors. To >> > boot--this entire force folks to show an email topic was likely started >> by >> > someone who's never contributed a dime! :( As a webmaster of 20 years >> > myself, I can attest that those who have fussed about things on my own >> > site, were not contributing in any way to the site's continuation, >> support >> > or growth. I'd hate to see gedmatch dwindle in use or someone recreate >> > it's functionality on another site that allows privacy because this >> topic >> > was every brought up to start with. :( >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Karla Huebner via < >> > genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> > >> >> Including an email address is not the same thing as disclosing one's >> >> identity. The same person can have a raft of different email addresses >> for >> >> different purposes. >> >> >> >> On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Sam Sloan via < >> >> genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Sorry. I would not support this change. >> >>> >> >>> Many people are afraid of identity theft. Many people will not upload >> to >> >>> gedmatch.com because they fear their identity will be stolen. I have >> had >> >>> people get very angry with me when I offer to give them a free DNA >> test >> >>> even though I will be paying for it. >> >>> >> >>> I would rather have incomplete information than no information at all. >> >>> >> >>> Some day there will be a gigantic family tree and all of us will be on >> >> it. >> >>> >> >>> Sam Sloan >> >>> >> >>> On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 6:29 AM, Andreas West via < >> >>> genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> I've posted my number before when we started this discussion, it was >> 6 >> >> or >> >>>> 7% >> >>>> if I remember correctly. Indeed, let's hope these people read it and >> >>> change >> >>>> their settings. >> >>>> >> >>>> If not, those emotionally not capable of coping with the >> disappointment >> >>>> (like >> >>>> me, who brought this idea up) might break down and cry endlessly >> >>>> (attention, >> >>>> irony was intended). >> >>>> >> >>>> Andreas (WEST) born BASSO >> >>>> >> >>>> My ancestors: [http://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/Basso-Family- >> >>>> Tree-23](http://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/Basso-Family-Tree-23) >> >>>> "Jim Bartlett via" <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> >>>>> I have less than 1% of my GEDmatch Matches w/o an email. Is this a >> >>> major >> >>>>> issue for some? With the doubling of of test takers every 14 months, >> >>>> I've got >> >>>>> my hands full (and my TGs runneth over) with new Matches. I'm trying >> >>>> hard to >> >>>>> keep up communications - the genealogy part of this puzzle - but am >> >>>> slipping >> >>>>> behind. I won't miss the very few w/o emails - maybe this policy >> will >> >>>>> convince a few to add their emails. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Jim - www.segmentology.org >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> On Nov 13, 2015, at 1:17 AM, Brooks Family via < >> >>>> genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> >> >>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> /"/ /*Effective December 1, 2015, kits with hidden (private) email >> >>>>>> addresses// >> >>>>>> //will no longer be shown in comparison results. If you have a >> >> hidden >> >>>>>> email// >> >>>>>> //address, you can make it visible by clicking on the EDIT link at >> >>> the >> >>>>>> bottom// >> >>>>>> //of your DNA resources box. *// >> >>>>>> //// >> >>>>>> //"So will those who have hidden addresses still have access to our >> >>>>>> data? It// >> >>>>>> //sound like they will not be able to see the results but not sure >> >>> if I >> >>>>> am// >> >>>>>> //reading this correctly"/ >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> OMG. The way I read this, it instantly makes private all >> >> email-less >> >>>>>> kits. It doesn't state that a match list /for that kit /will not >> >> be >> >>>>>> generated, just that it will not be on any other kits' match lists. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> I can see how the change would cut the amount of griping to >> >> gedmatch, >> >>>>>> but IMO it doesn't solve the problem. Even if the kit owner >> >> decided >> >>> to >> >>>>>> give the kit an email, there's no requirement to answer an email or >> >>>>>> share info. I have those now, anyway. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Small matches aren't useful if a kit owner is unresponsive - but >> >>> large >> >>>>>> matches /are/ even when the owner is unresponsive! They can be used >> >>> for >> >>>>>> comparisons. And sometimes I can figure out who they are on the >> >> site >> >>>>>> that the kit came from. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Good grief. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> ------------------------------- >> >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENEALOGY-DNA- >> >>>>> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> >> in >> >>>> the >> >>>>> subject and the body of the message >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> ------------------------------- >> >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >>>> GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> >>>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >>> >> >>> ------------------------------- >> >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >>> GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Karla Huebner >> >> calypsospots AT gmail.com >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Lisa R Franklin RN,BSN >> > Admin, Franklin Y DNA Project >> > http://trackingyourroots.com/FranklinGenetics/ >> > FranklinGenetics@gmail.com >> > http://trackingyourroots.com/DNA (How To presentation (23andme), tips, >> & >> > helps. >> > >> > *2**3**&**m**e**: **The World's Largest database & coincidentally the >> ONLY >> > one with all the tools you need for genealogy and DNA!--* >> > >> http://refer.23andme.com/v2/share/6158544791499756901/4672616e6b6c696e47656e657469637340676d61696c2e636f6d >> > >> > BEST GENETIC GENEALOGY BOOK! >> > >> http://www.amazon.com/Genetic-Genealogy-Emily-D-Aulicino-ebook/dp/B00HJJWBU2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1391174801&sr=8-1&keywords=Genetic+Genealogy >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > -- Lisa R Franklin RN,BSN Admin, Franklin Y DNA Project http://trackingyourroots.com/FranklinGenetics/ FranklinGenetics@gmail.com http://trackingyourroots.com/DNA (How To presentation (23andme), tips, & helps. *2**3**&**m**e**: **The World's Largest database & coincidentally the ONLY one with all the tools you need for genealogy and DNA!--* http://refer.23andme.com/v2/share/6158544791499756901/4672616e6b6c696e47656e657469637340676d61696c2e636f6d BEST GENETIC GENEALOGY BOOK! http://www.amazon.com/Genetic-Genealogy-Emily-D-Aulicino-ebook/dp/B00HJJWBU2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1391174801&sr=8-1&keywords=Genetic+Genealogy