Sorry. I would not support this change. Many people are afraid of identity theft. Many people will not upload to gedmatch.com because they fear their identity will be stolen. I have had people get very angry with me when I offer to give them a free DNA test even though I will be paying for it. I would rather have incomplete information than no information at all. Some day there will be a gigantic family tree and all of us will be on it. Sam Sloan On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 6:29 AM, Andreas West via < genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > I've posted my number before when we started this discussion, it was 6 or > 7% > if I remember correctly. Indeed, let's hope these people read it and change > their settings. > > If not, those emotionally not capable of coping with the disappointment > (like > me, who brought this idea up) might break down and cry endlessly > (attention, > irony was intended). > > Andreas (WEST) born BASSO > > My ancestors: [http://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/Basso-Family- > Tree-23](http://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/Basso-Family-Tree-23) > "Jim Bartlett via" <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > I have less than 1% of my GEDmatch Matches w/o an email. Is this a major > > issue for some? With the doubling of of test takers every 14 months, > I've got > > my hands full (and my TGs runneth over) with new Matches. I'm trying > hard to > > keep up communications - the genealogy part of this puzzle - but am > slipping > > behind. I won't miss the very few w/o emails - maybe this policy will > > convince a few to add their emails. > > > > Jim - www.segmentology.org > > > > > On Nov 13, 2015, at 1:17 AM, Brooks Family via < > genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > /"/ /*Effective December 1, 2015, kits with hidden (private) email > > > addresses// > > > //will no longer be shown in comparison results. If you have a hidden > > > email// > > > //address, you can make it visible by clicking on the EDIT link at the > > > bottom// > > > //of your DNA resources box. *// > > > //// > > > //"So will those who have hidden addresses still have access to our > > > data? It// > > > //sound like they will not be able to see the results but not sure if I > > am// > > > //reading this correctly"/ > > > > > > OMG. The way I read this, it instantly makes private all email-less > > > kits. It doesn't state that a match list /for that kit /will not be > > > generated, just that it will not be on any other kits' match lists. > > > > > > I can see how the change would cut the amount of griping to gedmatch, > > > but IMO it doesn't solve the problem. Even if the kit owner decided to > > > give the kit an email, there's no requirement to answer an email or > > > share info. I have those now, anyway. > > > > > > Small matches aren't useful if a kit owner is unresponsive - but large > > > matches /are/ even when the owner is unresponsive! They can be used for > > > comparisons. And sometimes I can figure out who they are on the site > > > that the kit came from. > > > > > > Good grief. > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENEALOGY-DNA- > > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the > > subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Including an email address is not the same thing as disclosing one's identity. The same person can have a raft of different email addresses for different purposes. On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Sam Sloan via <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Sorry. I would not support this change. > > Many people are afraid of identity theft. Many people will not upload to > gedmatch.com because they fear their identity will be stolen. I have had > people get very angry with me when I offer to give them a free DNA test > even though I will be paying for it. > > I would rather have incomplete information than no information at all. > > Some day there will be a gigantic family tree and all of us will be on it. > > Sam Sloan > > On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 6:29 AM, Andreas West via < > genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > I've posted my number before when we started this discussion, it was 6 or > > 7% > > if I remember correctly. Indeed, let's hope these people read it and > change > > their settings. > > > > If not, those emotionally not capable of coping with the disappointment > > (like > > me, who brought this idea up) might break down and cry endlessly > > (attention, > > irony was intended). > > > > Andreas (WEST) born BASSO > > > > My ancestors: [http://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/Basso-Family- > > Tree-23](http://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/Basso-Family-Tree-23) > > "Jim Bartlett via" <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > I have less than 1% of my GEDmatch Matches w/o an email. Is this a > major > > > issue for some? With the doubling of of test takers every 14 months, > > I've got > > > my hands full (and my TGs runneth over) with new Matches. I'm trying > > hard to > > > keep up communications - the genealogy part of this puzzle - but am > > slipping > > > behind. I won't miss the very few w/o emails - maybe this policy will > > > convince a few to add their emails. > > > > > > Jim - www.segmentology.org > > > > > > > On Nov 13, 2015, at 1:17 AM, Brooks Family via < > > genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > /"/ /*Effective December 1, 2015, kits with hidden (private) email > > > > addresses// > > > > //will no longer be shown in comparison results. If you have a hidden > > > > email// > > > > //address, you can make it visible by clicking on the EDIT link at > the > > > > bottom// > > > > //of your DNA resources box. *// > > > > //// > > > > //"So will those who have hidden addresses still have access to our > > > > data? It// > > > > //sound like they will not be able to see the results but not sure > if I > > > am// > > > > //reading this correctly"/ > > > > > > > > OMG. The way I read this, it instantly makes private all email-less > > > > kits. It doesn't state that a match list /for that kit /will not be > > > > generated, just that it will not be on any other kits' match lists. > > > > > > > > I can see how the change would cut the amount of griping to gedmatch, > > > > but IMO it doesn't solve the problem. Even if the kit owner decided > to > > > > give the kit an email, there's no requirement to answer an email or > > > > share info. I have those now, anyway. > > > > > > > > Small matches aren't useful if a kit owner is unresponsive - but > large > > > > matches /are/ even when the owner is unresponsive! They can be used > for > > > > comparisons. And sometimes I can figure out who they are on the site > > > > that the kit came from. > > > > > > > > Good grief. > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENEALOGY-DNA- > > > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > > the > > > subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Karla Huebner calypsospots AT gmail.com
You can't steal an identity with a name and email however It takes more than that -----Original Message----- From: Sam Sloan via <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> To: Andreas West <ahnen@awest.de>; genealogy-dna <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> Cc: Brooks Family <Coverly@xmission.com> Sent: Fri, Nov 13, 2015 7:31 am Subject: Re: [DNA] Would you support the suggestion to GEDmatch to makeemail addresses mandatory to contact? Sorry. I would not support this change. Many people are afraid of identity theft. Many people will not upload to gedmatch.com because they fear their identity will be stolen. I have had people get very angry with me when I offer to give them a free DNA test even though I will be paying for it. I would rather have incomplete information than no information at all. Some day there will be a gigantic family tree and all of us will be on it. Sam Sloan On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 6:29 AM, Andreas West via < genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > I've posted my number before when we started this discussion, it was 6 or > 7% > if I remember correctly. Indeed, let's hope these people read it and change > their settings. > > If not, those emotionally not capable of coping with the disappointment > (like > me, who brought this idea up) might break down and cry endlessly > (attention, > irony was intended). > > Andreas (WEST) born BASSO > > My ancestors: [http://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/Basso-Family- > Tree-23](http://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/Basso-Family-Tree-23) > "Jim Bartlett via" <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > I have less than 1% of my GEDmatch Matches w/o an email. Is this a major > > issue for some? With the doubling of of test takers every 14 months, > I've got > > my hands full (and my TGs runneth over) with new Matches. I'm trying > hard to > > keep up communications - the genealogy part of this puzzle - but am > slipping > > behind. I won't miss the very few w/o emails - maybe this policy will > > convince a few to add their emails. > > > > Jim - www.segmentology.org > > > > > On Nov 13, 2015, at 1:17 AM, Brooks Family via < > genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > /"/ /*Effective December 1, 2015, kits with hidden (private) email > > > addresses// > > > //will no longer be shown in comparison results. If you have a hidden > > > email// > > > //address, you can make it visible by clicking on the EDIT link at the > > > bottom// > > > //of your DNA resources box. *// > > > //// > > > //"So will those who have hidden addresses still have access to our > > > data? It// > > > //sound like they will not be able to see the results but not sure if I > > am// > > > //reading this correctly"/ > > > > > > OMG. The way I read this, it instantly makes private all email-less > > > kits. It doesn't state that a match list /for that kit /will not be > > > generated, just that it will not be on any other kits' match lists. > > > > > > I can see how the change would cut the amount of griping to gedmatch, > > > but IMO it doesn't solve the problem. Even if the kit owner decided to > > > give the kit an email, there's no requirement to answer an email or > > > share info. I have those now, anyway. > > > > > > Small matches aren't useful if a kit owner is unresponsive - but large > > > matches /are/ even when the owner is unresponsive! They can be used for > > > comparisons. And sometimes I can figure out who they are on the site > > > that the kit came from. > > > > > > Good grief. > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENEALOGY-DNA- > > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the > > subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message