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    1. Re: [DNA] Clarification on the new 23?
    2. Robert Paine via
    3. We will know in less than a week, speculation is of little use. Rpaine -----Original Message----- From: jlerch1 via Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2015 10:54 AM To: genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DNA] Clarification on the new 23? Ok, I'll believe that. But can someone point to a quote which says specifically that that's the use of the phrase that the coding team know they're supposed to be using? I mean they don't say Anonymous matches can't send or receive emails from those with whom they're still Anonymous. They say Anonymous Matches can't send or receive emails period. IOW the coding team may be using 1 setting from the profile when your definition seems to be from somewhere else (i.e. I'm not sure if I could recognize your definition from any of the queries in the Profile setting page.) On Thu, 05 Nov 2015 11:07:40 -0600 (CST), Jim Bartlett wrote: John, Once someone accepts an invite, they are no longer Anonymous to you, so they should remain on your RDNA list, and still be available in FI:A. Jim Bartlett On 11/05/15, jlerch1 via wrote: Can someone say definitively, what happens to matches of ours who have accepted our Invite but continue to be Anonymous to the rest of their matches. The way I read 23's description, they're going to be all reverted to Anonymous and deleted from our lists.  IOW are they 1) going to look at each person's DNA Relatives list and delete all non-Sharing Anonymous matches' listings or 2)are they going to look at each person's listing and see if he makes himself Anonymous to all non-Sharers and deletes him pr even 3) makes himself Anonymous some other way? If 2) or 3) is the case, my estimation is that I'm going to go from more than 700 Sharers to about 100. If 1) I'll stay at ~700. 23's language says I'm going to have only ~100 Sharers left. IOW all our letters we're sending to Anonymous listers is futile since they're not going to be looking at our individual list to see who's anonymous still. Evidence for that opinion is: They say Anonymous persons will no longer be able to send or receive emails; they DON'T say no longer be able to send or receive emails to/from non-Sharers. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    11/05/2015 04:27:31
    1. Re: [DNA] Clarification on the new 23?
    2. Jim Bartlett via
    3. I agree. And the programming is probably all done and tested. After the initial crash that usually accompanies these things, we'll just have to adjust. Jim - www.segmentology.org > On Nov 5, 2015, at 2:27 PM, Robert Paine via <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > We will know in less than a week, speculation is of little use. > > Rpaine > > -----Original Message----- > From: jlerch1 via > Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2015 10:54 AM > To: genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [DNA] Clarification on the new 23? > > Ok, I'll believe that. But can someone point to a quote which says > specifically that that's the use of the phrase that the coding team > know they're supposed to be using? I mean they don't say Anonymous > matches can't send or receive emails from those with whom they're still > Anonymous. They say Anonymous Matches can't send or receive emails > period. IOW the coding team may be using 1 setting from the profile > when your definition seems to be from somewhere else (i.e. I'm not sure > if I could recognize your definition from any of the queries in the > Profile setting page.) > > On Thu, 05 Nov 2015 11:07:40 -0600 (CST), Jim Bartlett wrote: > > John, > > Once someone accepts an invite, they are no longer Anonymous to you, so > they should remain on your RDNA list, and still be available in FI:A. > > > > Jim Bartlett > > On 11/05/15, jlerch1 via wrote: > Can someone say definitively, what happens to matches of ours who have > accepted our Invite but continue to be Anonymous to the rest of their > matches. The way I read 23's description, they're going to be all > reverted to Anonymous and deleted from our lists.  IOW are they > 1) going to look at each person's DNA Relatives list and delete all > non-Sharing Anonymous matches' listings or 2)are they going to look at > each person's listing and see if he makes himself Anonymous to all > non-Sharers and deletes him pr even 3) makes himself Anonymous some > other way? If 2) or 3) is the case, my estimation is that I'm going > to go from more than 700 Sharers to about 100. If 1) I'll stay at > ~700. 23's language says I'm going to have only ~100 Sharers > left. IOW all our letters we're sending to Anonymous listers is > futile since they're not going to be looking at our individual list to > see who's anonymous still. Evidence for that opinion is: They say > Anonymous persons will no longer be able to send or receive emails; > they DON'T say no longer be able to send or receive emails to/from > non-Sharers. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    11/05/2015 07:54:26
    1. Re: [DNA] Clarification on the new 23?
    2. jlerch1 via
    3. It's not a question of speculation.  It's a question of doing one's best to make sure the barn door was closed properly rather than chasing a loose horse for hours or days or weeks. On Thu, 5 Nov 2015 11:27:31 -0800, Robert Paine wrote: We will know in less than a week, speculation is of little use. Rpaine -----Original Message----- From: jlerch1 via Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2015 10:54 AM To: genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DNA] Clarification on the new 23? Ok, I'll believe that. But can someone point to a quote which says specifically that that's the use of the phrase that the coding team know they're supposed to be using? I mean they don't say Anonymous matches can't send or receive emails from those with whom they're still Anonymous. They say Anonymous Matches can't send or receive emails period. IOW the coding team may be using 1 setting from the profile when your definition seems to be from somewhere else (i.e. I'm not sure if I could recognize your definition from any of the queries in the Profile setting page.) On Thu, 05 Nov 2015 11:07:40 -0600 (CST), Jim Bartlett wrote: John, Once someone accepts an invite, they are no longer Anonymous to you, so they should remain on your RDNA list, and still be available in FI:A. Jim Bartlett On 11/05/15, jlerch1 via wrote: Can someone say definitively, what happens to matches of ours who have accepted our Invite but continue to be Anonymous to the rest of their matches. The way I read 23's description, they're going to be all reverted to Anonymous and deleted from our lists.  IOW are they 1) going to look at each person's DNA Relatives list and delete all non-Sharing Anonymous matches' listings or 2)are they going to look at each person's listing and see if he makes himself Anonymous to all non-Sharers and deletes him pr even 3) makes himself Anonymous some other way? If 2) or 3) is the case, my estimation is that I'm going to go from more than 700 Sharers to about 100. If 1) I'll stay at ~700. 23's language says I'm going to have only ~100 Sharers left. IOW all our letters we're sending to Anonymous listers is futile since they're not going to be looking at our individual list to see who's anonymous still. Evidence for that opinion is: They say Anonymous persons will no longer be able to send or receive emails; they DON'T say no longer be able to send or receive emails to/from non-Sharers. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    11/05/2015 10:23:35