I think we have something that is helpful newbie R1b folks.I've revamped the big, old Kerchner R1b project a couple of times. You can read more about the project and its goals here: https://www.familytreedna.com/public/r1b ( https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/r-1b/about/background ) and on the accompanying discussion group here: https://groups.yahoo.com/groups/R1b-YDNA I've got a help tool, a spreadsheet, that can help evaluate testing options leveraging 67 (or 111) STR haplotypes of folks that have done advanced SNP testing. You can see example screenshots here in this brief .pdf file. http://tinyurl.com/R1b-Haplotypes-Help Essentially, this is like having the Y Classic, Y Colorized and Y SNP project pages all combined into one, with the ability to select subgroups of your own criteria on the fly. Genetic Distances, Variances, Modes, Means, etc. are calculated for any selected group. Please invite any R1b predicted people in your projects to the R1b project. They should stay in their current projects. This is just to help them further define their more youthful haplogroups. Eligible testers are those that are 1) R1b confirmed or predicted haplogroup from FTDNA, 2) at 67 STRs or willing to upgrade (111 STRs is preferable), and 3) that join the R1b project. Regards, Mike W

We've crossed over the 6,900 mark for members in the R1b project. This is good because as people upgrade to 67 STRs and do SNP testing we help place them in the right major "home" haplogroup project. Even after finding "home", by staying in the group they become good models for others and get included in the R1b_Haplotypes 67 STR comparison file where we can look at genetic distances and STR signatures on the same report with SNP results. This should help people find you and your haplogroup, even if the match does not show up on the FTDNA matching screen (due to GD limits). The "big picture" tree is on the "About" page. https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/r-1b/about The "Background" tab from the About pages shows how the project operates: https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/r-1b/about/background The "Results" tab from the About pages shows how to find the key reports and has descriptions and links to a variety of sources including scientific papers about R1b. https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/r-1b/about/results Note: R1b is marked by M343+, but this includes the M269+ or P25+ people and all of the downstream SNPs like P312, L21, U106, etc, .etc. Regards, Mike W P.S. the strange "-" hyphen (R-1b rather than R1b) was inserted by the switch to Groups but I'm told that will go away soon. On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 4:47 PM, Mike W <mwwdna@gmail.com> wrote: > I think we have something that is helpful newbie R1b folks.I've revamped > the big, old Kerchner R1b project a couple of times. > > You can read more about the project and its goals here: > https://www.familytreedna.com/public/r1b ( > https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/r-1b/about/background ) > > and on the accompanying discussion group here: > https://groups.yahoo.com/groups/R1b-YDNA > > I've got a help tool, a spreadsheet, that can help evaluate testing > options leveraging 67 (or 111) STR haplotypes of folks that have done > advanced SNP testing. You can see example screenshots here in this brief > .pdf file. > http://tinyurl.com/R1b-Haplotypes-Help > > Essentially, this is like having the Y Classic, Y Colorized and Y SNP > project pages all combined into one, with the ability to select subgroups > of your own criteria on the fly. > > Genetic Distances, Variances, Modes, Means, etc. are calculated for any > selected group. > > Please invite any R1b predicted people in your projects to the R1b > project. They should stay in their current projects. This is just to help > them further define their more youthful haplogroups. > > Eligible testers are those that are > 1) R1b confirmed or predicted haplogroup from FTDNA, > 2) at 67 STRs or willing to upgrade (111 STRs is preferable), and > 3) that join the R1b project. > > Regards, > Mike W >

Great news! We just hit the 7000 mark. We now have 7000 members in the R1b project. This just makes the 67 STR GD sorting/matching, Signature marker with side by side SNP analysis more valuable. https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/r-1b/about/background Better news yet, we have an extremely diligent and professional co-administrator on board, Gail Riddell. Welcome, Gail. Mike W ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Mike W <mwwdna@gmail.com> Date: Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 4:47 PM Subject: R1b "Gateway" Project update and request To: DNA Rootsweb <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> I think we have something that is helpful newbie R1b folks.I've revamped the big, old Kerchner R1b project a couple of times. You can read more about the project and its goals here: https://www.familytreedna.com/public/r1b ( https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/r-1b/about/background ) and on the accompanying discussion group here: https://groups.yahoo.com/groups/R1b-YDNA I've got a help tool, a spreadsheet, that can help evaluate testing options leveraging 67 (or 111) STR haplotypes of folks that have done advanced SNP testing. You can see example screenshots here in this brief .pdf file. http://tinyurl.com/R1b-Haplotypes-Help Essentially, this is like having the Y Classic, Y Colorized and Y SNP project pages all combined into one, with the ability to select subgroups of your own criteria on the fly. Genetic Distances, Variances, Modes, Means, etc. are calculated for any selected group. Please invite any R1b predicted people in your projects to the R1b project. They should stay in their current projects. This is just to help them further define their more youthful haplogroups. Eligible testers are those that are 1) R1b confirmed or predicted haplogroup from FTDNA, 2) at 67 STRs or willing to upgrade (111 STRs is preferable), and 3) that join the R1b project. Regards, Mike W

Mike, How many of the 7000 members have taken the BigY test? John R On 2015-05-31, at 8:23 AM, Mike W via <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Great news! We just hit the 7000 mark. We now have 7000 members in the R1b > project. This just makes the 67 STR GD sorting/matching, Signature marker > with side by side SNP analysis more valuable. > > https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/r-1b/about/background > > Better news yet, we have an extremely diligent and professional > co-administrator on board, Gail Riddell. Welcome, Gail. > > Mike W > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Mike W <mwwdna@gmail.com> > Date: Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 4:47 PM > Subject: R1b "Gateway" Project update and request > To: DNA Rootsweb <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> > > > I think we have something that is helpful newbie R1b folks.I've revamped > the big, old Kerchner R1b project a couple of times. > > You can read more about the project and its goals here: > https://www.familytreedna.com/public/r1b ( > https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/r-1b/about/background ) > > and on the accompanying discussion group here: > https://groups.yahoo.com/groups/R1b-YDNA > > I've got a help tool, a spreadsheet, that can help evaluate testing options > leveraging 67 (or 111) STR haplotypes of folks that have done advanced SNP > testing. You can see example screenshots here in this brief .pdf file. > http://tinyurl.com/R1b-Haplotypes-Help > > Essentially, this is like having the Y Classic, Y Colorized and Y SNP > project pages all combined into one, with the ability to select subgroups > of your own criteria on the fly. > > Genetic Distances, Variances, Modes, Means, etc. are calculated for any > selected group. > > Please invite any R1b predicted people in your projects to the R1b project. > They should stay in their current projects. This is just to help them > further define their more youthful haplogroups. > > Eligible testers are those that are > 1) R1b confirmed or predicted haplogroup from FTDNA, > 2) at 67 STRs or willing to upgrade (111 STRs is preferable), and > 3) that join the R1b project. > > Regards, > Mike W > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There are many more people in R1b subclade projects than are in the big R1b project. There are probably close to 40 R1b subclade projects so I don't know what the aggregate totals would be. The R1b project, itself, has about 750 people with Big Y results. As an example of a subclade project, the R-L21 project has over 900 people with Big Y results. There is overlap in those two counts between the two projects and I expect that the subclade projects have higher propensity for deep testing. Many or the R1b project members are people just trying to figure out what to do next. Regards, Mike W On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 8:01 AM, John M Rhodes <johnmrhodes409@gmail.com> wrote: > Mike, > > How many of the 7000 members have taken the BigY test? > > John R > > On 2015-05-31, at 8:23 AM, Mike W via <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > Great news! We just hit the 7000 mark. We now have 7000 members in the > R1b > > project. This just makes the 67 STR GD sorting/matching, Signature marker > > with side by side SNP analysis more valuable. > > > > https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/r-1b/about/background > > > > Better news yet, we have an extremely diligent and professional > > co-administrator on board, Gail Riddell. Welcome, Gail. > > > > Mike W > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > From: Mike W <mwwdna@gmail.com> > > Date: Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 4:47 PM > > Subject: R1b "Gateway" Project update and request > > To: DNA Rootsweb <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> > > > > > > I think we have something that is helpful newbie R1b folks.I've revamped > > the big, old Kerchner R1b project a couple of times. > > > > You can read more about the project and its goals here: > > https://www.familytreedna.com/public/r1b ( > > https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/r-1b/about/background ) > > > > and on the accompanying discussion group here: > > https://groups.yahoo.com/groups/R1b-YDNA > > > > I've got a help tool, a spreadsheet, that can help evaluate testing > options > > leveraging 67 (or 111) STR haplotypes of folks that have done advanced > SNP > > testing. You can see example screenshots here in this brief .pdf file. > > http://tinyurl.com/R1b-Haplotypes-Help > > > > Essentially, this is like having the Y Classic, Y Colorized and Y SNP > > project pages all combined into one, with the ability to select subgroups > > of your own criteria on the fly. > > > > Genetic Distances, Variances, Modes, Means, etc. are calculated for any > > selected group. > > > > Please invite any R1b predicted people in your projects to the R1b > project. > > They should stay in their current projects. This is just to help them > > further define their more youthful haplogroups. > > > > Eligible testers are those that are > > 1) R1b confirmed or predicted haplogroup from FTDNA, > > 2) at 67 STRs or willing to upgrade (111 STRs is preferable), and > > 3) that join the R1b project. > > > > Regards, > > Mike W > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Mike, Very impressive. Regards, Larry From: Mike W via <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> To: DNA Rootsweb <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 8:23 AM Subject: [DNA] Fwd: R1b "Gateway" Project update and request Great news!  We just hit the 7000 mark. We now have 7000 members in the R1b project. This just makes the 67 STR GD sorting/matching, Signature marker with side by side SNP analysis more valuable. https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/r-1b/about/background Better news yet, we have an extremely diligent and professional co-administrator on board, Gail Riddell. Welcome, Gail. Mike W

We are expecting a new batch of completed R1b-M343 Backbone SNP Pack results in. There have been a large number of people who have ordered this. Results started coming in last week so it can be turned around fairly quickly. Congratulations to all. *The project now has over 7,400 member*s. This will only help the R1b_Haplotypes comparison spreadsheet tool. We've had 500 new members since May. I try to post some of general updates from time to time on the project news page. https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/r-1b/about/news Anyone who is R1b anything is welcome to join. That includes R-M343, R-P25, R-M269 and any downstream subclade. Regards, Mike W On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 3:47 PM, Mike W <mwwdna@gmail.com> wrote: > I think we have something that is helpful newbie R1b folks.I've revamped > the big, old Kerchner R1b project a couple of times. > > You can read more about the project and its goals here: > https://www.familytreedna.com/public/r1b ( > https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/r-1b/about/background ) > > and on the accompanying discussion group here: > https://groups.yahoo.com/groups/R1b-YDNA > > I've got a help tool, a spreadsheet, that can help evaluate testing > options leveraging 67 (or 111) STR haplotypes of folks that have done > advanced SNP testing. You can see example screenshots here in this brief > .pdf file. > http://tinyurl.com/R1b-Haplotypes-Help > > Essentially, this is like having the Y Classic, Y Colorized and Y SNP > project pages all combined into one, with the ability to select subgroups > of your own criteria on the fly. > > Genetic Distances, Variances, Modes, Means, etc. are calculated for any > selected group. > > Please invite any R1b predicted people in your projects to the R1b > project. They should stay in their current projects. This is just to help > them further define their more youthful haplogroups. > > Eligible testers are those that are > 1) R1b confirmed or predicted haplogroup from FTDNA, > 2) at 67 STRs or willing to upgrade (111 STRs is preferable), and > 3) that join the R1b project. > > Regards, > Mike W >

I'm confused about the terms used. I am the manager for two of my older brothers Ydna. One I paid ancestry.com to do a 67 test for, and the other I paid Familytree to do a 111 test for . One test comes back R1b and the other says R-M269. They are both very elderly (I'm no spring chicken myself, but the youngest of the group), and so they have designated me to handle all research and they will simply give me their DNA to help in the cause. They are full brothers so why is there haplo group different? I am not sure what research groups I should join on their behalf. I appreciate your help in understanding this. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 27, 2015, at 08:20, Mike W via <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > We are expecting a new batch of completed R1b-M343 Backbone SNP Pack > results in. There have been a large number of people who have ordered this. > Results started coming in last week so it can be turned around fairly > quickly. > > Congratulations to all. *The project now has over 7,400 member*s. This will > only help the R1b_Haplotypes comparison spreadsheet tool. > > We've had 500 new members since May. I try to post some of general updates > from time to time on the project news page. > https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/r-1b/about/news > > Anyone who is R1b anything is welcome to join. That includes R-M343, R-P25, > R-M269 and any downstream subclade. > > Regards, > Mike W > >> On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 3:47 PM, Mike W <mwwdna@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I think we have something that is helpful newbie R1b folks.I've revamped >> the big, old Kerchner R1b project a couple of times. >> >> You can read more about the project and its goals here: >> https://www.familytreedna.com/public/r1b ( >> https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/r-1b/about/background ) >> >> and on the accompanying discussion group here: >> https://groups.yahoo.com/groups/R1b-YDNA >> >> I've got a help tool, a spreadsheet, that can help evaluate testing >> options leveraging 67 (or 111) STR haplotypes of folks that have done >> advanced SNP testing. You can see example screenshots here in this brief >> .pdf file. >> http://tinyurl.com/R1b-Haplotypes-Help >> >> Essentially, this is like having the Y Classic, Y Colorized and Y SNP >> project pages all combined into one, with the ability to select subgroups >> of your own criteria on the fly. >> >> Genetic Distances, Variances, Modes, Means, etc. are calculated for any >> selected group. >> >> Please invite any R1b predicted people in your projects to the R1b >> project. They should stay in their current projects. This is just to help >> them further define their more youthful haplogroups. >> >> Eligible testers are those that are >> 1) R1b confirmed or predicted haplogroup from FTDNA, >> 2) at 67 STRs or willing to upgrade (111 STRs is preferable), and >> 3) that join the R1b project. >> >> Regards, >> Mike W > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

We've had an acceleration in growth recently in the R1b project. This is a chart from the project statistics taken this morning. We are over 8,500 people in the project. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/17907527/R1b_Project_Growth.pdf I'm encouraging people to upgrade to 111 Y STRs while they are on sale. Here is more background on the project; and the haplotype and gateway services provided. https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/r1b/about/background Co-admin Gail R has been fantastic in supporting the project! Thanks to her we have some order. Regards, Mike W On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 4:47 PM, Mike W <mwwdna@gmail.com> wrote: > I think we have something that is helpful newbie R1b folks.I've revamped > the big, old Kerchner R1b project a couple of times. > > You can read more about the project and its goals here: > https://www.familytreedna.com/public/r1b ( > https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/r-1b/about/background ) > > and on the accompanying discussion group here: > https://groups.yahoo.com/groups/R1b-YDNA > > I've got a help tool, a spreadsheet, that can help evaluate testing > options leveraging 67 (or 111) STR haplotypes of folks that have done > advanced SNP testing. You can see example screenshots here in this brief > .pdf file. > http://tinyurl.com/R1b-Haplotypes-Help > > Essentially, this is like having the Y Classic, Y Colorized and Y SNP > project pages all combined into one, with the ability to select subgroups > of your own criteria on the fly. > > Genetic Distances, Variances, Modes, Means, etc. are calculated for any > selected group. > > Please invite any R1b predicted people in your projects to the R1b > project. They should stay in their current projects. This is just to help > them further define their more youthful haplogroups. > > Eligible testers are those that are > 1) R1b confirmed or predicted haplogroup from FTDNA, > 2) at 67 STRs or willing to upgrade (111 STRs is preferable), and > 3) that join the R1b project. > > Regards, > Mike W >