This however (not including their own email address in each kit they manage) would be a major mistake related to those kit managers not understanding well how Autosomal DNA works. Also it seems very rude to the people who supplied their DNA that they don't even get a chance to know that they have found a missing cousin. As a multiple-kit-manager myself, if I don't have time to deal with a cousin who clearly doesn't match my kit, I would always forward them to that cousin to *choose* if they wanted to speak to each other or not. -----Original Message----- From: Franklin Genetics via <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> To: Andreas West <ahnen@awest.de> Cc: Curtis Rogers <GEDmatch@gmail.com>; genealogy-dna <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, Sep 23, 2015 9:04 am Subject: [DNA] Would you support the suggestion to GEDmatch to make email addresses mandatory to contact? I'm sorry but you're not understanding. the kits probably are all under under one manager, but for some people managing a very large number of kits, trying to do your own research, and have a life, they just don't have time to deal with all matches for every kit on their account. By doing it with no email address shown the kit is available for the person managing it to use in the way they need to for their research which no doubt that is the reason it was uploaded to begin with. I'm sorry if you can't understand this it probably means that you don't manage very many kits or you're retired and don't have a job or family obligations. I fully understand why some people might would have to do this and I respect that choice. On Wednesday, September 23, 2015, Andreas West <ahnen@awest.de> wrote: > I have kits from my family members as well who authorized me to use their DNA test results. But all of them are under my email address as main point of contact. > Yes, they don't want to be contacted directly either but that's not a problem as I'm the main contact person. > So I don't understand what your point is. > Andreas > > > > On 23 Sep 2015, at 18:46, Franklin Genetics <franklingenetics@gmail.com> wrote: > > No, that is a privacy issue. And I'm sure Curtis and crew are aware of that. My understanding is some are uploaded and are family who've agreed to participate for a set purpose, but not to be involved and are therefore not willing to have their email divulged but are instead managed by a family member who is utilizing the data for a specific line and cannot assist general matches. I known it's frustrating, but such is life. > > > On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 2:25 AM, Andreas West via < genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> >> Hi everyone, >> >> >> I'm growing more and more frustrated with what seems a growing number of >> people that submit their DNA result to GEDmatch (that's good) but without >> giving their email address to contact them (that's bad). >> >> I just did some calculations and I have 5.99% of my matches in GEDmatch that >> have given any email address (they have given an email as part of the >> registration process but opted to not show it to matches). >> >> This is not only very frustrating for our research (as we can't contact them >> and some of them are very large matching segments) but they are controlling >> whom they want to contact (as we do provide our email addresses → very one >> sided behavior). >> >> As many others have pointed out, it's perfectly ok to setup a separate email >> address just for GEDmatch if anyone is concerned with privacy. So I don't >> think this is something that should be allowed, especially with GEDmatch now >> having over 200k DNA kits uploaded (that means 12000 of them haven't provided >> a method to contact them). >> >> Would you support that we ask GEDmatch to make publishing the users email >> address mandatory from now on? Maybe even go so far to send out an email of >> their policy change to all who have hidden it so far and enable displaying the >> email to matches in the future (with maybe a blackout period of 30 days so >> they have a chance to delete their DNA kit if they don't accept this policy >> change)? >> >> That would make all our research a lot more fruitful instead of frustrated. >> Looking forward to your comments. >> >> FYI - I've copied Curtis Rogers from GEDmatch in this email. >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Andreas (WEST) born BASSO >> >> My ancestors: [http://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/Basso-Family- >> Tree-23](http://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/Basso-Family-Tree-23) >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > Lisa R Franklin RN,BSN > Admin, Franklin Y DNA Project > http://trackingyourroots.com/FranklinGenetics/ > FranklinGenetics@gmail.com > http://trackingyourroots.com/DNA (How To presentation (23andme), tips, & helps. > > 23&me: The World's Largest database & coincidentally the ONLY one with all the tools you need for genealogy and DNA!-- > http://refer.23andme.com/v2/share/6158544791499756901/4672616e6b6c696e47656e657469637340676d61696c2e636f6d > > BEST GENETIC GENEALOGY BOOK! > http://www.amazon.com/Genetic-Genealogy-Emily-D-Aulicino-ebook/dp/B00HJJWBU2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1391174801&sr=8-1&keywords=Genetic+Genealogy > > -- Lisa R Franklin RN,BSN Admin, Franklin Y DNA Project http://trackingyourroots.com/FranklinGenetics/ FranklinGenetics@gmail.com http://trackingyourroots.com/DNA (How To presentation (23andme), tips, & helps. *2**3**&**m**e**: **The World's Largest database & coincidentally the ONLY one with all the tools you need for genealogy and DNA!--* http://refer.23andme.com/v2/share/6158544791499756901/4672616e6b6c696e47656e657469637340676d61696c2e636f6d BEST GENETIC GENEALOGY BOOK! http://www.amazon.com/Genetic-Genealogy-Emily-D-Aulicino-ebook/dp/B00HJJWBU2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1391174801&sr=8-1&keywords=Genetic+Genealogy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
*Effective December 1, 2015, kits with hidden (private) email addresses will no longer be shown in comparison results. If you have a hidden email address, you can make it visible by clicking on the EDIT link at the bottom of your DNA resources box. * So will those who have hidden addresses still have access to our data? It sound like they will not be able to see the results but not sure if I am reading this correctly On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 8:38 AM, Wjhonson via <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > This however (not including their own email address in each kit they > manage) would be a major mistake related to those kit managers not > understanding well how Autosomal DNA works. > > Also it seems very rude to the people who supplied their DNA that they > don't even get a chance to know that they have found a missing cousin. As > a multiple-kit-manager myself, if I don't have time to deal with a cousin > who clearly doesn't match my kit, I would always forward them to that > cousin to *choose* if they wanted to speak to each other or not. > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Franklin Genetics via <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> > To: Andreas West <ahnen@awest.de> > Cc: Curtis Rogers <GEDmatch@gmail.com>; genealogy-dna < > genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wed, Sep 23, 2015 9:04 am > Subject: [DNA] Would you support the suggestion to GEDmatch to make email > addresses mandatory to contact? > > > I'm sorry but you're not understanding. the kits probably are all > under > under one manager, but for some people managing a very large number > of > kits, trying to do your own research, and have a life, they just don't > have > time to deal with all matches for every kit on their account. By > doing it with > no email address shown the kit is available for the person > managing it to use in > the way they need to for their research which no > doubt that is the reason it was > uploaded to begin with. I'm sorry if you > can't understand this it probably means > that you don't manage very many > kits or you're retired and don't have a job or > family obligations. I fully > understand why some people might would have to do > this and I respect that > choice. > > On Wednesday, September 23, 2015, Andreas West > <ahnen@awest.de> wrote: > > I have kits from my family members as well who > authorized me to use their > DNA test results. But all of them are under my email > address as main point > of contact. > > Yes, they don't want to be contacted > directly either but that's not a > problem as I'm the main contact person. > > So I > don't understand what your point is. > > Andreas > > > > > > > > On 23 Sep 2015, at 18:46, > Franklin Genetics <franklingenetics@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > No, that is a privacy > issue. And I'm sure Curtis and crew are aware of > that. My understanding is some > are uploaded and are family who've agreed to > participate for a set purpose, but > not to be involved and are therefore not > willing to have their email divulged > but are instead managed by a family > member who is utilizing the data for a > specific line and cannot assist > general matches. I known it's frustrating, but > such is life. > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 2:25 AM, Andreas West via > < > genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > >> > >> Hi everyone, > >> > >> > >> I'm growing > more and more frustrated with what seems a growing number of > >> people that > submit their DNA result to GEDmatch (that's good) but without > >> giving their > email address to contact them (that's bad). > >> > >> I just did some calculations > and I have 5.99% of my matches in GEDmatch > that > >> have given any email address > (they have given an email as part of the > >> registration process but opted to > not show it to matches). > >> > >> This is not only very frustrating for our > research (as we can't contact > them > >> and some of them are very large matching > segments) but they are > controlling > >> whom they want to contact (as we do > provide our email addresses → very > one > >> sided behavior). > >> > >> As many others > have pointed out, it's perfectly ok to setup a separate > email > >> address just > for GEDmatch if anyone is concerned with privacy. So I don't > >> think this is > something that should be allowed, especially with GEDmatch > now > >> having over > 200k DNA kits uploaded (that means 12000 of them haven't > provided > >> a method to > contact them). > >> > >> Would you support that we ask GEDmatch to make publishing > the users email > >> address mandatory from now on? Maybe even go so far to send > out an email > of > >> their policy change to all who have hidden it so far and > enable > displaying the > >> email to matches in the future (with maybe a blackout > period of 30 days > so > >> they have a chance to delete their DNA kit if they don't > accept this > policy > >> change)? > >> > >> That would make all our research a lot more > fruitful instead of > frustrated. > >> Looking forward to your comments. > >> > >> FYI - > I've copied Curtis Rogers from GEDmatch in this email. > >> > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> > Andreas (WEST) born BASSO > >> > >> My ancestors: > [http://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/Basso-Family- > >> > Tree-23](http://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/Basso-Family-Tree-23) > >> > >> > ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an > email to > GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > > Lisa R Franklin > RN,BSN > > Admin, Franklin Y DNA Project > > > http://trackingyourroots.com/FranklinGenetics/ > > FranklinGenetics@gmail.com > > > http://trackingyourroots.com/DNA (How To presentation (23andme), tips, > & > helps. > > > > 23&me: The World's Largest database & coincidentally the ONLY one > with > all the tools you need for genealogy and > DNA!-- > > > > http://refer.23andme.com/v2/share/6158544791499756901/4672616e6b6c696e47656e657469637340676d61696c2e636f6d > > > > > BEST GENETIC GENEALOGY > BOOK! > > > > http://www.amazon.com/Genetic-Genealogy-Emily-D-Aulicino-ebook/dp/B00HJJWBU2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1391174801&sr=8-1&keywords=Genetic+Genealogy > > > > > > -- > > Lisa R Franklin RN,BSN > Admin, Franklin Y DNA > Project > http://trackingyourroots.com/FranklinGenetics/ > FranklinGenetics@gmail.com > http://trackingyourroots.com/DNA > (How To presentation (23andme), tips, & > helps. > > *2**3**&**m**e**: **The World's > Largest database & coincidentally the ONLY > one with all the tools you need for > genealogy and > DNA!--* > > http://refer.23andme.com/v2/share/6158544791499756901/4672616e6b6c696e47656e657469637340676d61696c2e636f6d > > BEST > GENETIC GENEALOGY > BOOK! > > http://www.amazon.com/Genetic-Genealogy-Emily-D-Aulicino-ebook/dp/B00HJJWBU2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1391174801&sr=8-1&keywords=Genetic+Genealogy > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an > email to GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >