You seem to have discovered facts that I did not know. My mother, Dr. Helen Marjorie Jacobson Sloan, called their mother "Aunt Charlotte". Aunt Charlotte who was Charlotte Bishop had one child who died the same day she was born so apparently she felt that she could not have more children. The reason I know they were adopted was they told me so. I spoke to one of them, I believe it was Jim O. Augustine, born January 1, 1947, when I was building my family tree in about 1997. Unfortunately, I did not keep notes on the conversation, a bad mistake. He told me that he and Jack had been adopted. He said his original mother was Tome. Later after he died his wife Vicki called me and asked me to remove his social security number from my website. I had gotten the number from the Social Security Death Index. I have not corresponded with these people in a long time. My mother is buried in the cemetery you mention in Spaulding, Iowa near Creston. When I went there for my mothers funeral in 2002 I got to know them again. They were living in Orient, Iowa near our family farm. One is still alive. He is David Lee Graham born on 3 July 1971. He is my second cousin and is on 23andme and he matches with me on 23andme so I will try to contact him and ask him. Last I checked his parents Kenneth and Rosalie Graham were still living in Creston, Iowa. Sam Sloan On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 6:34 AM, Loretta Layman <lynneage@h-o-l.com> wrote: > Hi Sam. The Augustine boys may well have been from Creston or nearby. > There is a findagrave memorial for one Clarence Augustine buried in > Creston, > but he died reportedly (no gravestone) in 1909. In 1940, however, there > was > one Augustine family in Spaulding, which as you know is just five miles > away. The family then consisted of 44-year-old Ben Augustine, his > 39-year-old wife Grace, his 5-year-old daughter Janet, and his 10-year-old > son Frank. The 1950 census, when it comes out, may tell the rest of the > story. For now ... > > According to his gravestone, Frank in fact was born in 1929, was married to > the wife buried with him in 1951, and died in 2005. Unfortunately, there > is > no memorial for Ben, but two possible scenarios are suggested: > > (1) Ben and Grace were the parents of John and Jack, and your family > adopted > the boys after the deaths of Ben and Grace; or, less likely, > > (2) Frank, who would have been 18 in 1947, was married twice, had John and > Jack, was widowed, and gave up the boys after their mother died or when > Frank remarried. > > In the same cemetery with Frank is a Grace A. Augustine, but her year of > death (again no gravestone) is listed as 1908. I wonder if it should be > 1948 because there's an extract of a 1927 marriage in Creston of Benjamin > Alvin Augustine and Grace Anna Hanson. Surnames of their respective > mothers > were transcribed as Luers and Hoakison. > > Loretta > > -----Original Message----- > From: genealogy-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:genealogy-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sam Sloan via > Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 2:43 AM > To: DNAAdoption@yahoogroups.com; genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com; > DNA-NEWBIE@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [DNA] Orphan Train > > I have two second cousins who were adopted by our farming family in > Southwest Iowa. I do not know how my family got them but my family is from > Creston, Iowa which is on the railroad line so it seems possible that they > came on the orphan train. > They are Jim O. Augustine born 1 January 1947 died 2003 and Jack G. > Augustine born 2 January 1948 died 2005. I just put them on my ancestry > family tree. > These dates of birth, 1 January and 2 January, are fake. They did not know > when or where they were born. > Sam Sloan > >