Hi Bonnie, I am not aware of the R1b (xM269) SNPs status wrt ISOGG but I am responsible for submitting R1b-M269 (P312-, U106-) SNPs to ISOGG and I do submit all SNPs for which we have enough Sanger sequencing data. Submitting SNPs with NGS data as a proof has been problematic since I don't have the BAM files from FTDNA and FGC users and because of the tight requirements. -- Best regards, Atanas Kumbarov http://dna.kumbarov.com/ On 2016-01-03 20:54, Bonnie Schrack wrote: > Great, Atanas, thanks! Sergey's tree is impressive. Do you have any > idea why so much of it is not included in the ISOGG tree? Has anyone > tried submitting the new branches? > > I've created a transposed tree based on Sergey's which I hope will be > helpful to Thomas and others. There is some ambiguity due to the fact > that not everyone is working together. Yfull doesn't include all the > 1K Genomes samples that Sergey does, among other things. He has been > able to split the tree in some new ways, which is great! > > It should be easy for Thomas to pick a SNP for you at the V88 level, > as there look to be about 70 already recognized. > > Bonnie > > On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 9:42 AM, Atanas Kumbarov > <social@dna.kumbarov.com <mailto:social@dna.kumbarov.com>> wrote: > > I increased my pledge by $20. I think that sample 3064 (at least) > is R1b-V88. You can test him for any SNP on the V88 level > according to Sergey's tree: > http://www.kumbarov.com/ht35/R1b-M343xM269%20Y-DNA%20tree_02_11_25_2015.pdf > > I had a hard time determining which of these SNPs you have primers > for. > > -- > Best regards, > Atanas Kumbarov > > http://dna.kumbarov.com/ > > > > > On 2016-01-02 22:46, Thomas Krahn via wrote: > > New Year Challenge: R1b in Cameroon > > Among our samples collected by Mathew on his last field trips > we have > found the following two haplotypes: > > http://www.yseq.net/R1bCameroonChallenge.html > > Note that Y-GATA-H4 is in the NIST standard. If you want to > compare them > to FTDNA you need to subtract 1. The haplogroup predictors > clearly claim > 100% R1b. > > Now the question is: How did those two Y chromosomes find > their way to > Sub-Saharan Africa? Could it be that some Europeans have left > their > traces during colonization times? > > Well, if you're familiar with R1b in Europe, the haplotypes > still look a > little bit strange. > > Also we keep finding R1b distribution maps that highlight an R1b > hot-spot in Northern Cameroon: > http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_R1b_Y-DNA.shtml > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_R1b > > Wikipedia characterizes the hotspot in Northern Cameroon as > R1b-V88. > However V88 is in a region of the Y chromosome that is 97.9% > identical > to ChrX, so it wouldn't qualify for a stable marker according > to the > newest ISOGG guidelines. I'd rather prefer to test stable > known SNPs > that independently proof the association with the North > African and > Arabic regions. > > I'd like to involve you, the R1b experts to use your knowledge and > experience to solve this mystery in a group effort. At the > same time I'd > like to give the A00 Cameroon Research Project another push > for donations. > > So here are the rules of the game: > > YSEQ will do free SNP tests on those 2 samples if you donate > an equal > amount ($17.50 per SNP) to Bonnie Schrack's A00 Cameroon > Research project. > > http://experiment.com/a00west > > When you make the donation, send Bonnie and myself an email > thomas@yseq.net <mailto:thomas@yseq.net>, > bonnieschrack@gmail.com <mailto:bonnieschrack@gmail.com> with > the marker you want to > sponsor and the YSEQ ID it should be tested for. The marker > must be > available in the YSEQ catalog: > > https://www.yseq.net/ > > or at least we must have the primers in stock so that we can > quickly > test them. Ask us for a distinct SNP if you're unsure. > > We will process the SNPs in the very next batch and release > the results > to the public. You can keep sponsoring the next round when the > results > come in. But note that the A00 Cameroon project deadline at > experiment.com <http://experiment.com> is on January 6th! So > there are only 5 days left to > submit your suggested SNP and the associated sample ID. > > The Prize: > > The researcher who submits the most downstream positive SNP > first will > win a free Haplogroup Panel at YSEQ which he can use for a > person of his > choice. Since there are two samples, there are two Haplogroup > Panels > that you can win! > > Good luck and Happy New Year! > > Thomas > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com > <mailto:GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com> with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the message > > >