So when looking at the X-any way to determine WHOSE X it might be???? Its the one from mom or the one from dad ?? In a male or in a female...very confusing. Teddi On Oct 14, 2015, at 12:41 PM, Paul Rakow via wrote: > > Will, > > For all practical purposes, the X a woman inherits from > her father will be intact, while the X from her mother might > be recombined. > > Fine print: there is a little bit near one end where the > X and Y chromosomes are similar, and it is possible for DNA to > cross over. But we don't normally worry about that. > > Paul Rakow > > On Wed, October 14, 2015 20:23, Wjhonson wrote: >> I understand this just now. >> >> >> Does this work the same for females and their fathers? >> I mean do the X and Y recombine into a new X >> Or do females inherit their X strictly intact from their fathers >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Paul Rakow via <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> >> To: genealogy-dna <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Wed, Oct 14, 2015 12:16 pm >> Subject: Re: [DNA] X-inheritence >> >> >> >> W, >> >> >> Your mother, being a woman, has two X chromosomes, you (male) >> have just one. All of your X chromosome will match your mother, but >> quite >> possibly, parts of it will match her on one of the Xs, and parts on >> the >> other. But any place on your X chromosome only matches to one of >> your >> mother's two X chromosomes. >> >> The match between your mother and her cousin must be on >> >> >> the X chromosome that you don't match, at that region. >> >> I don't think >> you can be sure that you have an intact chromosome from your mother >> - one >> end of your X chromosome might match to the X chromosome your mother >> inherited from her mother, and the other end might match to the X >> chromosome your mother inherited from her father, and you would still > show a >> perfect match to your mother over the whole length of your X >> chromosome. >> >> Paul >> Rakow >> >> >> Wjhonson wrote: >> >> >>> >>> >>> That doesnt change that her X came to me >>> >> intact. >>> >>> >>> So her X matches, should match me in the exact same >>> >> way. >>> >> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Karla Huebner >>> >> <calypsospots@gmail.com> >> >>> To: Wjhonson <wjhonson@aol.com>; genealogy-dna >>> >>> >> <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> >> >>> Sent: Wed, Oct 14, 2015 10:08 am >>> Subject: Re: >>> >> [DNA] X-inheritence >> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Do you know for a fact that there was no >>> >> recombination? Your mother got >>> one X from her mother, one from her father. >> Chances are your X has some of >> >>> each unless you can show otherwise. >>> >>> >>> >> On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Wjhonson via >> >>> >> <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> >> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> My mother and her female first >>> >> cousin share 52 cms on the X >>> >>> >>> My mother passed to me (a male) her entire >>> >> X intact >> >>> >>> >>> Should not I also share exactly 52cms on the X with this same >>> >> female >>> first cousin? >>> >>> If not, why not? >>> >>> >>> >>> Will >>> > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Yes both my mother's and my own X have been sequenced. In addition, I have paid to sequence the X of three cousins who match in various degrees to the X also -----Original Message----- From: UQAM via <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> To: Karla Huebner <calypsospots@gmail.com>; genealogy-dna <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, Oct 14, 2015 10:44 am Subject: Re: [DNA] X-inheritence By intact you mean that you tested your X and compared it (to find IBDs) to that of your mother? Jacques ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karla Huebner via" <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> To: "Wjhonson" <wjhonson@aol.com>; <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 1:08 PM Subject: Re: [DNA] X-inheritence > Do you know for a fact that there was no recombination? Your mother got > one > X from her mother, one from her father. Chances are your X has some of > each > unless you can show otherwise. > > On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Wjhonson via > <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> > wrote: > >> My mother and her female first cousin share 52 cms on the X >> >> My mother passed to me (a male) her entire X intact >> >> Should not I also share exactly 52cms on the X with this same female >> first >> cousin? >> >> If not, why not? >> >> Will >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > -- > Karla Huebner > calypsospots AT gmail.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > --- L'absence de virus dans ce courrier électronique a été vérifiée par le logiciel antivirus Avast. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

By intact you mean that you tested your X and compared it (to find IBDs) to that of your mother? Jacques ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karla Huebner via" <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> To: "Wjhonson" <wjhonson@aol.com>; <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 1:08 PM Subject: Re: [DNA] X-inheritence > Do you know for a fact that there was no recombination? Your mother got > one > X from her mother, one from her father. Chances are your X has some of > each > unless you can show otherwise. > > On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Wjhonson via > <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> > wrote: > >> My mother and her female first cousin share 52 cms on the X >> >> My mother passed to me (a male) her entire X intact >> >> Should not I also share exactly 52cms on the X with this same female >> first >> cousin? >> >> If not, why not? >> >> Will >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > -- > Karla Huebner > calypsospots AT gmail.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > --- L'absence de virus dans ce courrier électronique a été vérifiée par le logiciel antivirus Avast. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Will, your mother shuffled, recombined and divided by two her X DNA to form ovulas. One of the resultant X was given to you. You thus received half of her X DNA but the X you have received is not exactly one of her original ones. A woman received the X of her father integrally. His X does not recombine Jacques ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wjhonson via" <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> To: <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 12:50 PM Subject: [DNA] X-inheritence > My mother and her female first cousin share 52 cms on the X > > My mother passed to me (a male) her entire X intact > > Should not I also share exactly 52cms on the X with this same female first > cousin? > > If not, why not? > > Will > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > --- L'absence de virus dans ce courrier électronique a été vérifiée par le logiciel antivirus Avast. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

That doesnt change that her X came to me intact. So her X matches, should match me in the exact same way. -----Original Message----- From: Karla Huebner <calypsospots@gmail.com> To: Wjhonson <wjhonson@aol.com>; genealogy-dna <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, Oct 14, 2015 10:08 am Subject: Re: [DNA] X-inheritence Do you know for a fact that there was no recombination? Your mother got one X from her mother, one from her father. Chances are your X has some of each unless you can show otherwise. On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Wjhonson via <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: My mother and her female first cousin share 52 cms on the X My mother passed to me (a male) her entire X intact Should not I also share exactly 52cms on the X with this same female first cousin? If not, why not? Will ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Karla Huebner calypsospots AT gmail.com

I see that SNP rs78738981 at Build 37 location 12919574 (Build 38 location 12859719) of chr 1 is also artifactual for the same reason as for rs79698223. Both of these purportedly T to A mutations should really be mapped to Build 38 location 13030073 of chr 1, where A is the reference allele in an intergenic region. I wonder how long it will take dbSNP to realize this. On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 11:25 AM, Obed W Odom <owodom@utexas.edu> wrote: > My whole-genome sequence shows me to be heterozygous for the T to A SNP > at location 12854090 of chromosome 1, known in dbSNP as rs79698223. This > SNP purports to cause a change of codon from TTG (coding for leucine) to > TAG (a stop codon) in exon 3 of the PRAMEF1 gene. > > This would be a potentially serious mutation in that the new stop codon > would disrupt synthesis of the PRAMEF1 protein. However, looking at my > pile-up reads I see that this apparent SNP is accompanied by 4 other SNPs > in the same immediate vicinity, and a given read either has all of these or > none of them. Also, the ExAC database shows that almost everyone is > heterozygous for this SNP, which would not be expected. > > Blasting the short sequence containing the 5 SNPs against the NCBI > database shows that it is a perfect match for a sequence from 13030016 to > 13030089 of the Build 38 human sequence. This would correspond > approximately to 13062773-13062846 of the Build 37 human sequence. The > problem is that this part of the Build 37 sequence shows only N's for the > reference sequence. > > Thus, my whole-genome data, as well as the ExAC data, which are being > compared with the Build 37 sequence instead of Build 38, cannot be mapped > to the proper location since Build 37 does not show this region. The data > is instead being mapped to the closest region shown in Build 37, which is > incorrect. rs79698223 is therefore, as I see it, no longer "operable". > > Obed >

Do you know for a fact that there was no recombination? Your mother got one X from her mother, one from her father. Chances are your X has some of each unless you can show otherwise. On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Wjhonson via <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > My mother and her female first cousin share 52 cms on the X > > My mother passed to me (a male) her entire X intact > > Should not I also share exactly 52cms on the X with this same female first > cousin? > > If not, why not? > > Will > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Karla Huebner calypsospots AT gmail.com

My mother and her female first cousin share 52 cms on the X My mother passed to me (a male) her entire X intact Should not I also share exactly 52cms on the X with this same female first cousin? If not, why not? Will

A female receives an exact copy of her father's X-chromosome, she will match any paternal sisters and her paternal grandmother. RPaine -----Original Message----- From: Wjhonson via Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 12:23 PM To: paul.rakow@cantab.net ; genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DNA] X-inheritence I understand this just now. Does this work the same for females and their fathers? I mean do the X and Y recombine into a new X Or do females inherit their X strictly intact from their fathers -----Original Message----- From: Paul Rakow via <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> To: genealogy-dna <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, Oct 14, 2015 12:16 pm Subject: Re: [DNA] X-inheritence W, Your mother, being a woman, has two X chromosomes, you (male) have just one. All of your X chromosome will match your mother, but quite possibly, parts of it will match her on one of the Xs, and parts on the other. But any place on your X chromosome only matches to one of your mother's two X chromosomes. The match between your mother and her cousin must be on the X chromosome that you don't match, at that region. I don't think you can be sure that you have an intact chromosome from your mother - one end of your X chromosome might match to the X chromosome your mother inherited from her mother, and the other end might match to the X chromosome your mother inherited from her father, and you would still show a perfect match to your mother over the whole length of your X chromosome. Paul Rakow Wjhonson wrote: > > > That doesnt change that her X came to me intact. > > > So her X matches, should match me in the exact same way. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Karla Huebner <calypsospots@gmail.com> > To: Wjhonson <wjhonson@aol.com>; genealogy-dna > <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wed, Oct 14, 2015 10:08 am > Subject: Re: [DNA] X-inheritence > > > > > Do you know for a fact that there was no recombination? Your mother got > one X from her mother, one from her father. Chances are your X has some of > each unless you can show otherwise. > > > On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Wjhonson via > <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> > wrote: > > > My mother and her female first cousin share 52 cms on the X > > > My mother passed to me (a male) her entire X intact > > > Should not I also share exactly 52cms on the X with this same female > first cousin? > > If not, why not? > > > Will > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Will, Great question. Your mother had 2 X's, one from each parent. She matched her female first cousin at 52cM, which could come from either of your mother's two X's (maternal and/or paternal). When it comes to you, you only received one X from your mother. In the case you explain, if you got all of your mothers maternal X unchanged, you still might not match this cousin as part of the match your mom and she share could be from parts of both X's each girl held. But your mother most likely passed you one X which was completely recombined from the two she got. You just did not get all the matching chunks to your mothers cousin. Perhaps you are confusing mtDNA and X? They are not the same thing. mtDNA is passed down unchanged, but stored in a different location outside the cell nucleus, unlike the 23 pairs of chromosomes including X stored inside. I hope that makes sense. Good luck, Patti -----Original Message----- From: genealogy-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:genealogy-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Wjhonson via Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 11:26 AM To: calypsospots@gmail.com; genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DNA] X-inheritence That doesnt change that her X came to me intact. So her X matches, should match me in the exact same way. -----Original Message----- From: Karla Huebner <calypsospots@gmail.com> To: Wjhonson <wjhonson@aol.com>; genealogy-dna <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, Oct 14, 2015 10:08 am Subject: Re: [DNA] X-inheritence Do you know for a fact that there was no recombination? Your mother got one X from her mother, one from her father. Chances are your X has some of each unless you can show otherwise. On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Wjhonson via <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: My mother and her female first cousin share 52 cms on the X My mother passed to me (a male) her entire X intact Should not I also share exactly 52cms on the X with this same female first cousin? If not, why not? Will ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Karla Huebner calypsospots AT gmail.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In order to know if you received your X chromosome intact from your mother, you would need to compare yourself to one of her parents. RPaine -----Original Message----- From: Wjhonson via Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 10:46 AM To: Beaugrand.Jacques@uqam.ca ; genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com ; calypsospots@gmail.com Subject: Re: [DNA] X-inheritence Yes both my mother's and my own X have been sequenced. In addition, I have paid to sequence the X of three cousins who match in various degrees to the X also -----Original Message----- From: UQAM via <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> To: Karla Huebner <calypsospots@gmail.com>; genealogy-dna <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, Oct 14, 2015 10:44 am Subject: Re: [DNA] X-inheritence By intact you mean that you tested your X and compared it (to find IBDs) to that of your mother? Jacques ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karla Huebner via" <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> To: "Wjhonson" <wjhonson@aol.com>; <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 1:08 PM Subject: Re: [DNA] X-inheritence > Do you know for a fact that there was no recombination? Your mother got > one > X from her mother, one from her father. Chances are your X has some of > each > unless you can show otherwise. > > On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Wjhonson via > <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> > wrote: > >> My mother and her female first cousin share 52 cms on the X >> >> My mother passed to me (a male) her entire X intact >> >> Should not I also share exactly 52cms on the X with this same female >> first >> cousin? >> >> If not, why not? >> >> Will >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > -- > Karla Huebner > calypsospots AT gmail.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > --- L'absence de virus dans ce courrier électronique a été vérifiée par le logiciel antivirus Avast. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Not for "Geno 2.0 NG" ... haven't seen any results yet ... Al On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 11:41 AM, Mike W via <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Does anyone have a list of SNPs that are included? > > On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 10:27 PM, Al Aburto via < > genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> > wrote: > > > I think it is useful because they test about 15000 Y-SNPs , about 3000 > more > > than the original Geno 2.0 ... > > Al > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 2:47 PM, Doris Wheeler via < > > genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > > > What is this new test? I see that it transfers to FF, so is it > autosomal? > > > Is it different from FF, Ancestry, 23andMe? Is there any "added value" > > for > > > someone who has already done Y-DNA, mtDNA and atDNA... and maybe the > > > original National Geographic Y test? > > > > > > Thank you for any insight. > > > > > > Doris > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

The first yDNA H2 in Europe is in the Starčevo culture in Hungary 5710-5550 BC, then spread in Central Europe with LBK culture. yDNA H2 is also found in Neolithic Turkey 6500-6200 BC. So probably yDNA H2 spread in Europe with the first Neolithic farmers. Bernard Le 13/10/2015 17:17, John Ozment via a écrit : > Is there any theory of when and how yDNA hg H-P96 (aka H2) established itself in > France, Germany, Netherlands, Switzerland in small numbers? > Given F-M89 > L901 > P96, why is FTDNA still placing it in F rather than in H? > Is it considered Dravidian or something else? > Thank you. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

John L., I haven't received such a email recently; I did receive it three or four months ago for a non-GEDmatch associated email. I will say that many of the spam or phishing emails usually find their way to me because my contacts' email address book has been compromised. A recent such occurrence involved my dad's niece; her account had been hacked. The message (sent to several people in her address book) purported to be from her, but the email displayed wasn't hers nor would she have addressed me by the front portion of my email address. She was have used my childhood nickname. I'm careful about opening email from unfamiliar senders. My email accounts are setup to never download attachments and links are disabled. I have a dedicated email that I use for signing up for things that require a verified email; I don't care if that inbox is filled with junk. I'd check with my provider to see what spam protection they offer. Yolanda On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 10:46 AM, jlerch1 via <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > I have a much smaller internet footprint than my wife except I just added stuff onto Gedmatch. And I just got some kind of mal-email ostensibly from FedEx about a non-deliverable package--my first true spam/scam in months (years?)--and my wife did not. I'm wondering did anyone else here who is on Gedmatch get a mal-email ostensibly from FedEx? (I know some of you have got an automatic filter that might shunt it away; but if you would, I'd appreciate your checking for it. I didn't handle the email very well.) > John L > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have a much smaller internet footprint than my wife except I just added stuff onto Gedmatch.  And I just got some kind of mal-email ostensibly from FedEx about a non-deliverable package--my first true spam/scam in months (years?)--and my wife did not.  I'm wondering did anyone else here who is on Gedmatch get a mal-email ostensibly from FedEx?  (I know some of you have got an automatic filter that might shunt it away; but if you would, I'd appreciate your checking for it.  I didn't handle the email very well.) John L

My whole-genome sequence shows me to be heterozygous for the T to A SNP at location 12854090 of chromosome 1, known in dbSNP as rs79698223. This SNP purports to cause a change of codon from TTG (coding for leucine) to TAG (a stop codon) in exon 3 of the PRAMEF1 gene. This would be a potentially serious mutation in that the new stop codon would disrupt synthesis of the PRAMEF1 protein. However, looking at my pile-up reads I see that this apparent SNP is accompanied by 4 other SNPs in the same immediate vicinity, and a given read either has all of these or none of them. Also, the ExAC database shows that almost everyone is heterozygous for this SNP, which would not be expected. Blasting the short sequence containing the 5 SNPs against the NCBI database shows that it is a perfect match for a sequence from 13030016 to 13030089 of the Build 38 human sequence. This would correspond approximately to 13062773-13062846 of the Build 37 human sequence. The problem is that this part of the Build 37 sequence shows only N's for the reference sequence. Thus, my whole-genome data, as well as the ExAC data, which are being compared with the Build 37 sequence instead of Build 38, cannot be mapped to the proper location since Build 37 does not show this region. The data is instead being mapped to the closest region shown in Build 37, which is incorrect. rs79698223 is therefore, as I see it, no longer "operable". Obed

John, I just checked my spam folder, and I did get FedEx Spam (FedEx #00347139). It was addressed to me as Admin of the BARTLETT-DNA email group at rootsweb. I can assure you that GEDmatch does not have that email in their files. So it appears some spammer is picking up emails from all over. I did send an email to my BARTLETT-DNA group (the first one in several months), but the email was from me personally, not as the admin. Jim Bartlett On 10/13/15, jlerch1 via<genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: I have a much smaller internet footprint than my wife except I just added stuff onto Gedmatch.Ã And I just got some kind of mal-email ostensibly from FedEx about a non-deliverable package--my first true spam/scam in months (years?)--and my wife did not.Ã I'm wondering did anyone else here who is on Gedmatch get a mal-email ostensibly from FedEx?Ã (I know some of you have got an automatic filter that might shunt it away; but if you would, I'd appreciate your checking for it.Ã I didn't handle the email very well.) John L

List A single mtDNA sequence has appeared on the GenBank database and associated with the paper (unpublished so far): Coia,V. 'Whole mtDNA sequencing in Alpine populations and the genetic history of the Neolithic Tyrolean Iceman' The sequence appears to belong to Haplogroup K1a-T195C As usual I have added the sequence to my 'Checker' program to ensure accuracy of transcription. For reference I also include the original 'Otzi' sequence from 2008. Ian www.ianlogan.co.uk ------------------- KT749775(Italy) Coia Haplogroup K1a-T195C 10-OCT-2015 A73G T195C A263G 315.1C C497T 523.1C 523.2A A750G T1189C A1438G T1452C A1811G A2706G A3480G A4769G C7028T A8860G G9055A T9698C A10398G A10550G T11299C A11467G G11719A A12308G G12372A C14167T C14766T T14798C A15326G T16224C T16311C G16390A T16519C EU810403(Otzi) Ermini Haplogroup K1f 17-NOV-2008 A73G A263G 309.1C 315.1C 523.1C 523.2A 523.3C 523.4A 523.5C 523.6A A750G T1189C A1438G A1811G A2706G A3480G C3513T A4769G C7028T C8137T A8860G G9055A T9698C A10398G A10550G T11299C A11467G G11719A A12308G G12372A C14167T C14766T T14798C A15326G T16224C T16311C T16362C T16519C

Is there any theory of when and how yDNA hg H-P96 (aka H2) established itself in France, Germany, Netherlands, Switzerland in small numbers? Given F-M89 > L901 > P96, why is FTDNA still placing it in F rather than in H? Is it considered Dravidian or something else? Thank you.

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