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    1. Re: [DNA] Clarification on the new 23?
    2. jlerch1 via
    3. It's not a question of speculation.  It's a question of doing one's best to make sure the barn door was closed properly rather than chasing a loose horse for hours or days or weeks. On Thu, 5 Nov 2015 11:27:31 -0800, Robert Paine wrote: We will know in less than a week, speculation is of little use. Rpaine -----Original Message----- From: jlerch1 via Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2015 10:54 AM To: genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DNA] Clarification on the new 23? Ok, I'll believe that. But can someone point to a quote which says specifically that that's the use of the phrase that the coding team know they're supposed to be using? I mean they don't say Anonymous matches can't send or receive emails from those with whom they're still Anonymous. They say Anonymous Matches can't send or receive emails period. IOW the coding team may be using 1 setting from the profile when your definition seems to be from somewhere else (i.e. I'm not sure if I could recognize your definition from any of the queries in the Profile setting page.) On Thu, 05 Nov 2015 11:07:40 -0600 (CST), Jim Bartlett wrote: John, Once someone accepts an invite, they are no longer Anonymous to you, so they should remain on your RDNA list, and still be available in FI:A. Jim Bartlett On 11/05/15, jlerch1 via wrote: Can someone say definitively, what happens to matches of ours who have accepted our Invite but continue to be Anonymous to the rest of their matches. The way I read 23's description, they're going to be all reverted to Anonymous and deleted from our lists.  IOW are they 1) going to look at each person's DNA Relatives list and delete all non-Sharing Anonymous matches' listings or 2)are they going to look at each person's listing and see if he makes himself Anonymous to all non-Sharers and deletes him pr even 3) makes himself Anonymous some other way? If 2) or 3) is the case, my estimation is that I'm going to go from more than 700 Sharers to about 100. If 1) I'll stay at ~700. 23's language says I'm going to have only ~100 Sharers left. IOW all our letters we're sending to Anonymous listers is futile since they're not going to be looking at our individual list to see who's anonymous still. Evidence for that opinion is: They say Anonymous persons will no longer be able to send or receive emails; they DON'T say no longer be able to send or receive emails to/from non-Sharers. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    11/05/2015 10:23:35
    1. Re: [DNA] Clarification on the new 23?
    2. Lisa Wilcox via
    3. > On Nov 5, 2015, at 4:00 PM, jlerch1 via <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > ...For being programmers, 23 sure seems to have people > whose flow charts in their verbal communication come up to a branch > point where one branch goes nowhere. Do you *know* any actual programmers? ;-) Lisa

    11/05/2015 09:36:34
    1. Re: [DNA] Clarification on the new 23?
    2. Jim Bartlett via
    3. I agree. And the programming is probably all done and tested. After the initial crash that usually accompanies these things, we'll just have to adjust. Jim - www.segmentology.org > On Nov 5, 2015, at 2:27 PM, Robert Paine via <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > We will know in less than a week, speculation is of little use. > > Rpaine > > -----Original Message----- > From: jlerch1 via > Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2015 10:54 AM > To: genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [DNA] Clarification on the new 23? > > Ok, I'll believe that. But can someone point to a quote which says > specifically that that's the use of the phrase that the coding team > know they're supposed to be using? I mean they don't say Anonymous > matches can't send or receive emails from those with whom they're still > Anonymous. They say Anonymous Matches can't send or receive emails > period. IOW the coding team may be using 1 setting from the profile > when your definition seems to be from somewhere else (i.e. I'm not sure > if I could recognize your definition from any of the queries in the > Profile setting page.) > > On Thu, 05 Nov 2015 11:07:40 -0600 (CST), Jim Bartlett wrote: > > John, > > Once someone accepts an invite, they are no longer Anonymous to you, so > they should remain on your RDNA list, and still be available in FI:A. > > > > Jim Bartlett > > On 11/05/15, jlerch1 via wrote: > Can someone say definitively, what happens to matches of ours who have > accepted our Invite but continue to be Anonymous to the rest of their > matches. The way I read 23's description, they're going to be all > reverted to Anonymous and deleted from our lists.  IOW are they > 1) going to look at each person's DNA Relatives list and delete all > non-Sharing Anonymous matches' listings or 2)are they going to look at > each person's listing and see if he makes himself Anonymous to all > non-Sharers and deletes him pr even 3) makes himself Anonymous some > other way? If 2) or 3) is the case, my estimation is that I'm going > to go from more than 700 Sharers to about 100. If 1) I'll stay at > ~700. 23's language says I'm going to have only ~100 Sharers > left. IOW all our letters we're sending to Anonymous listers is > futile since they're not going to be looking at our individual list to > see who's anonymous still. Evidence for that opinion is: They say > Anonymous persons will no longer be able to send or receive emails; > they DON'T say no longer be able to send or receive emails to/from > non-Sharers. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    11/05/2015 07:54:26
    1. Re: [DNA] Clarification on the new 23?
    2. Jim Bartlett via
    3. John Right now you can only send 1 message to Anonymous. You're stuck until they accept. In the new system you cannot send a message to Anonymous - that system is going away (I say good riddance). Soon you will only see Public Matches. And, as I understand it, you'll keep all old Shared Genomes, and any new ones will only be with folks who agree to share with any Match. So we will no longer need to beg (aka invite) Matches to Share Genomes (again good riddance). It should be like FTDNA, for those who opt in. I'm looking forward to it. I'm looking forward to one click on FI:A to get all my "IBD" segments. My hope is that they'll include a date in that spreadsheet so we can easily cull out the ones we already have. Their next big BINGO would be Triangulated Groups. I think 23andMe really is trying to cater to the genealogy side! I give them a BZ (Navy flags for well done). Jim - www.segmentology.org > On Nov 5, 2015, at 1:54 PM, jlerch1 via <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Ok, I'll believe that. But can someone point to a quote which says > specifically that that's the use of the phrase that the coding team > know they're supposed to be using? I mean they don't say Anonymous > matches can't send or receive emails from those with whom they're still > Anonymous. They say Anonymous Matches can't send or receive emails > period. IOW the coding team may be using 1 setting from the profile > when your definition seems to be from somewhere else (i.e. I'm not sure > if I could recognize your definition from any of the queries in the > Profile setting page.) > > On Thu, 05 Nov 2015 11:07:40 -0600 (CST), Jim Bartlett wrote: > > John, > > Once someone accepts an invite, they are no longer Anonymous to you, so > they should remain on your RDNA list, and still be available in FI:A. > > > > Jim Bartlett > > On 11/05/15, jlerch1 via wrote: > Can someone say definitively, what happens to matches of ours who have > accepted our Invite but continue to be Anonymous to the rest of their > matches. The way I read 23's description, they're going to be all > reverted to Anonymous and deleted from our lists.  IOW are they > 1) going to look at each person's DNA Relatives list and delete all > non-Sharing Anonymous matches' listings or 2)are they going to look at > each person's listing and see if he makes himself Anonymous to all > non-Sharers and deletes him pr even 3) makes himself Anonymous some > other way? If 2) or 3) is the case, my estimation is that I'm going > to go from more than 700 Sharers to about 100. If 1) I'll stay at > ~700. 23's language says I'm going to have only ~100 Sharers > left. IOW all our letters we're sending to Anonymous listers is > futile since they're not going to be looking at our individual list to > see who's anonymous still. Evidence for that opinion is: They say > Anonymous persons will no longer be able to send or receive emails; > they DON'T say no longer be able to send or receive emails to/from > non-Sharers. >

    11/05/2015 07:22:46
    1. Re: [DNA] Clarification on the new 23?
    2. jlerch1 via
    3. Ok, I'll believe that.  But can someone point to a quote which says specifically that that's the use of the phrase that the coding team know they're supposed to be using?  I mean they don't say Anonymous matches can't send or receive emails from those with whom they're still Anonymous.  They say Anonymous Matches can't send or receive emails period.  IOW the coding team may be using 1 setting from the profile when your definition seems to be from somewhere else (i.e. I'm not sure if I could recognize your definition from any of the queries in the Profile setting page.) On Thu, 05 Nov 2015 11:07:40 -0600 (CST), Jim Bartlett wrote: John,   Once someone accepts an invite, they are no longer Anonymous to you, so they should remain on your RDNA list, and still be available in FI:A.        Jim Bartlett    On 11/05/15, jlerch1 via wrote:  Can someone say definitively, what happens to matches of ours who have accepted our Invite but continue to be Anonymous to the rest of their matches.  The way I read 23's description, they're going to be all reverted to Anonymous and deleted from our lists.   IOW are they 1) going to look at each person's DNA Relatives list and delete all non-Sharing Anonymous matches' listings or 2)are they going to look at each person's listing and see if he makes himself Anonymous to all non-Sharers and deletes him pr even 3) makes himself Anonymous some other way?  If 2) or 3) is the case, my estimation is that I'm going to go from more than 700 Sharers to about 100.  If 1) I'll stay at ~700.  23's language says I'm going to have only ~100 Sharers left.  IOW all our letters we're sending to Anonymous listers is futile since they're not going to be looking at our individual list to see who's anonymous still.  Evidence for that opinion is: They say Anonymous persons will no longer be able to send or receive emails; they DON'T say no longer be able to send or receive emails to/from non-Sharers. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    11/05/2015 06:54:56
    1. [DNA] R-L21 plus project crosses over the 4000 mark
    2. Mike W via
    3. Congratulations to all L21ers, and in particular to Richard Stevens. We just crossed over the 4000 members mark. We are the largest R1b subclade haplogroup project by a long shot. Just a few years a go there was no L21 and as Richard started the project there were arguments if L21 would be that significant or not. I think everyone knows this, but L21 is well represented in the National Genographic Project's new Geno 2 Next Generation (NG) fixed SNP product. There are many SNPs in this new product that were discovered by the early bird Big Y testers. I count over 800 SNPs in Geno 2 NG that are in L21. We are going to get some surprises out of this. https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/r-l21/about/ Regards, Mike W

    11/05/2015 06:45:16
    1. Re: [DNA] Clarification on the new 23?
    2. Robert Paine via
    3. We will know in less than a week, speculation is of little use. Rpaine -----Original Message----- From: jlerch1 via Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2015 10:54 AM To: genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DNA] Clarification on the new 23? Ok, I'll believe that. But can someone point to a quote which says specifically that that's the use of the phrase that the coding team know they're supposed to be using? I mean they don't say Anonymous matches can't send or receive emails from those with whom they're still Anonymous. They say Anonymous Matches can't send or receive emails period. IOW the coding team may be using 1 setting from the profile when your definition seems to be from somewhere else (i.e. I'm not sure if I could recognize your definition from any of the queries in the Profile setting page.) On Thu, 05 Nov 2015 11:07:40 -0600 (CST), Jim Bartlett wrote: John, Once someone accepts an invite, they are no longer Anonymous to you, so they should remain on your RDNA list, and still be available in FI:A. Jim Bartlett On 11/05/15, jlerch1 via wrote: Can someone say definitively, what happens to matches of ours who have accepted our Invite but continue to be Anonymous to the rest of their matches. The way I read 23's description, they're going to be all reverted to Anonymous and deleted from our lists.  IOW are they 1) going to look at each person's DNA Relatives list and delete all non-Sharing Anonymous matches' listings or 2)are they going to look at each person's listing and see if he makes himself Anonymous to all non-Sharers and deletes him pr even 3) makes himself Anonymous some other way? If 2) or 3) is the case, my estimation is that I'm going to go from more than 700 Sharers to about 100. If 1) I'll stay at ~700. 23's language says I'm going to have only ~100 Sharers left. IOW all our letters we're sending to Anonymous listers is futile since they're not going to be looking at our individual list to see who's anonymous still. Evidence for that opinion is: They say Anonymous persons will no longer be able to send or receive emails; they DON'T say no longer be able to send or receive emails to/from non-Sharers. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    11/05/2015 04:27:31
    1. Re: [DNA] Clarification on the new 23?
    2. Jim Bartlett via
    3. John, Once someone accepts an invite, they are no longer Anonymous to you, so they should remain on your RDNA list, and still be available in FI:A. Jim Bartlett On 11/05/15, jlerch1 via<genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: Can someone say definitively, what happens to matches of ours who have accepted our Invite but continue to be Anonymous to the rest of their matches.Ã The way I read 23's description, they're going to be all reverted to Anonymous and deleted from our lists.Ã Ã IOW are they 1) going to look at each person's DNA Relatives list and delete all non-Sharing Anonymous matches' listings or 2)are they going to look at each person's listing and see if he makes himself Anonymous to all non-Sharers and deletes him pr even 3) makes himself Anonymous some other way?Ã If 2) or 3) is the case, my estimation is that I'm going to go from more than 700 Sharers to about 100.Ã If 1) I'll stay at ~700.Ã 23's language says I'm going to have only ~100 Sharers left.Ã IOW all our letters we're sending to Anonymous listers is futile since they're not going to be looking at our individual list to see who's anonymous still.Ã Evidence for that opinion is: They say Anonymous persons will no longer be able to send or receive emails; they DON'T say no longer be able to send or receive emails to/from non-Sharers. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to G[1]ENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message References 1. mailto:ENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com

    11/05/2015 04:07:40
    1. [DNA] Clarification on the new 23?
    2. jlerch1 via
    3. Can someone say definitively, what happens to matches of ours who have accepted our Invite but continue to be Anonymous to the rest of their matches.  The way I read 23's description, they're going to be all reverted to Anonymous and deleted from our lists.   IOW are they 1) going to look at each person's DNA Relatives list and delete all non-Sharing Anonymous matches' listings or 2)are they going to look at each person's listing and see if he makes himself Anonymous to all non-Sharers and deletes him pr even 3) makes himself Anonymous some other way?  If 2) or 3) is the case, my estimation is that I'm going to go from more than 700 Sharers to about 100.  If 1) I'll stay at ~700.  23's language says I'm going to have only ~100 Sharers left.  IOW all our letters we're sending to Anonymous listers is futile since they're not going to be looking at our individual list to see who's anonymous still.  Evidence for that opinion is: They say Anonymous persons will no longer ! be able to send or receive emails; they DON'T say no longer be able to send or receive emails to/from non-Sharers.

    11/05/2015 03:37:28
    1. Re: [DNA] GENEALOGY-DNA Digest, Vol 10, Issue 605
    2. Nigel Callen via
    3. In UK and US 2015-07-10 means 10 July 2015 In UK 07-10-2015 means 7 October 2015 In US 07-10-2015 means 10 July 2015 > On 5 Nov 2015, at 08:00, genealogy-dna-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. GEDmatch date format (Michael Fisher) > 2. Re: GEDmatch date format (Wjhonson) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2015 13:18:36 +0000 > From: Michael Fisher <m.j.fisher@btinternet.com> > Subject: [DNA] GEDmatch date format > To: genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <563A05AC.10201@btinternet.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > > Hi all > > What date system does GEDmatch use. > > Re the following dates in the UK are - > > 2015-07-10 12:11:45 = 7 October 2015 > 2015-07-06 12:51:45 = 7 June 2015 > 2015-03-09 21:13:01 = 9 March 2015. > > I have duplicate GEDCOMs uploaded and I think I should delete these two > 2015-07-06 12:51:45 = 7 June 2015 > 2015-03-09 21:13:01 = 9 March 2015. > > Mike in Droitwich, England > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2015 15:50:49 -0500 > From: Wjhonson <wjhonson@aol.com> > Subject: Re: [DNA] GEDmatch date format > To: m.j.Fisher@btinternet.com, genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <150d4442c3c-636d-1c2a0@webprd-m60.mail.aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > It uses Year-Month-Day > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Fisher via <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> > To: genealogy-dna <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wed, Nov 4, 2015 5:24 am > Subject: [DNA] GEDmatch date format > > > Hi all > > What date system does GEDmatch use. > > Re the following dates in the > UK are - > > 2015-07-10 12:11:45 = 7 October 2015 > 2015-07-06 12:51:45 = 7 June > 2015 > 2015-03-09 21:13:01 = 9 March 2015. > > I have duplicate GEDCOMs uploaded > and I think I should delete these two > 2015-07-06 12:51:45 = 7 June > 2015 > 2015-03-09 21:13:01 = 9 March 2015. > > Mike in Droitwich, England > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an > email to GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the GENEALOGY-DNA list administrator, send an email to > GENEALOGY-DNA-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the GENEALOGY-DNA mailing list, send an email to GENEALOGY-DNA@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of GENEALOGY-DNA Digest, Vol 10, Issue 605 > **********************************************

    11/05/2015 02:36:44
    1. Re: [DNA] GEDmatch date format
    2. Wjhonson via
    3. It uses Year-Month-Day -----Original Message----- From: Michael Fisher via <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> To: genealogy-dna <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, Nov 4, 2015 5:24 am Subject: [DNA] GEDmatch date format Hi all What date system does GEDmatch use. Re the following dates in the UK are - 2015-07-10 12:11:45 = 7 October 2015 2015-07-06 12:51:45 = 7 June 2015 2015-03-09 21:13:01 = 9 March 2015. I have duplicate GEDCOMs uploaded and I think I should delete these two 2015-07-06 12:51:45 = 7 June 2015 2015-03-09 21:13:01 = 9 March 2015. Mike in Droitwich, England ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    11/04/2015 08:50:49
    1. [DNA] GEDmatch date format
    2. Michael Fisher via
    3. Hi all What date system does GEDmatch use. Re the following dates in the UK are - 2015-07-10 12:11:45 = 7 October 2015 2015-07-06 12:51:45 = 7 June 2015 2015-03-09 21:13:01 = 9 March 2015. I have duplicate GEDCOMs uploaded and I think I should delete these two 2015-07-06 12:51:45 = 7 June 2015 2015-03-09 21:13:01 = 9 March 2015. Mike in Droitwich, England

    11/04/2015 06:18:36
    1. Re: [DNA] The axe has fallen
    2. Andreas West via
    3. Becky, Can you share what text you have on display as a notice to those soon to be deleted anonymous accounts? TIA, Andreas > On 3 Nov 2015, at 00:46, Becky Pacey via <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > I added the information to my profile, so if some of these folks see it, > they might consider making their account visible to us. I do not know if > it will help, but the three accounts I administer now have a notice about > them being deleted. > > > On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 10:34 AM, jlerch1 via <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> > wrote: > >> The axe has fallen. There's a banner across (at least some of the >> accounts) the announcement that Anonymous and nicknamed accounts will >> be deleted from DNA Relatives list as of 11/11. >> I wrote on my wife's account: Why delete the Invites? Just add an >> addendum to the Invites "In order to accept this Invite, you will need >> to make your profile visible to All [whatever the actual name is]. >> Hmm what are they doing for the people who are Anonymous who have >> accepted some Invites but not others. I cannot imagine any rationale >> which would explain deleting Anonymous matches from some but not all >> DNA Relatives (and I've read through the explanation.) >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    11/02/2015 06:35:04
    1. Re: [DNA] GR38 and GR37 primary reference assemblies vs alternate assemblies at GenBank
    2. Obed W Odom via
    3. I didn't find a specific answer to my question about alternate sequences, but info at NCBI did indicate that alternate sequences are sometimes given if there is something particularly interesting about them, such as several SNPs being completely linked to each other over a considerable distance. That appears to be the case in the example I gave for the PRDM2 gene on chromosome 1. Over a span of 4066 bases, beginning at GRCH37 location 14105049 and ending at location 14109114, there are 6 SNPS with an allele frequency of 0.0319489, indicating that they always occur together and are thus completely linked. In addition there are 3 more SNPs with just a little higher frequency and 2 more with a considerably higher frequency. These higher frequencies probably reflect that these SNPs occur to a variable extent on the chromosome without the linkage in addition to the one with the linkage. The alternate Chr 1 assembly includes all of these SNPs and my DNA also apparently has all of them on 1 of my Chr 1 copies. Interestingly, of these 11 linked SNPs, only 4 of them cause an amino acid change and the other 7 are synonymous. On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 10:36 PM, Obed W Odom <owodom@utexas.edu> wrote: > Does anyone know the history and origin of the so-called alternate > sequences at NCBI's GenBank? Over a 2551-nt region on chromosome 1 from > location 14104950 thru 14107500, encompassing most of the coding region of > gene PRDM2, I see that the GR37 and GR38 sequences differ from the "Homo > sapiens chromosome 1, alternate assembly CHM1_1.1" by 9 point mutations and > 2 triplet insertions (the latter being in the alternate assembly). > > From my whole-genome sequence reads, it appears that 1 of my two > chromosome 1's matches the alternate sequence exactly over the above > region, while my other chromosome 1 matches the GR37 or GR38 sequence > except for 2 point mutations and 1 triplet insertion. I have heard that > the GR37 and GR 38 sequences are some sort of composite sequence derived > from 13 individuals from Buffalo, NY, but I have no idea what the origin of > the alternate sequence is. In any event, it seems that in the region > mentioned above one of my chromosomes (not sure whether it is maternal or > paternal) is identical to the alternate sequence and the other is much more > similar to the GR37 or GR38 sequence. > > Would appreciate any feedback, > > Obed > > >

    11/02/2015 04:04:19
    1. Re: [DNA] [Norton AntiSpam]Re: New Contract
    2. Deborah Callicott via
    3. Thanks Ann .......Good to know that Rootweb's spam filter is working ......my spam filter also pushed it to the junk mail folder but I knew the genealogy-dna address was valid but Norton must have picked up on an suspect addy somewhere ....... Thought a long lost cousin had found me ...... :-( Deborah |-----Original Message----- |From: genealogy-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:genealogy-dna- |bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ann Turner via |Sent: Monday, November 02, 2015 1:46 PM |To: DNA Genealogy Mailing List |Subject: [Norton AntiSpam]Re: [DNA] New Contract | |That's good news. RootsWeb mailing lists do not accept attachments, which in |this case was highly suspect. MaryFern's address is undoubtedly being used |without her knowledge. | |Ann Turner | |On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 10:39 AM, Deborah Callicott via < genealogy- |dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: | |> Mary, |> |> Nothing came through beyond what appears below ....... |> |> Kind Regards, |> Deborah |> |> |-----Original Message----- |> |From: genealogy-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:genealogy-dna- |> |bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of MaryFernS via |> |Sent: Monday, November 02, 2015 8:12 AM |> |To: genealogy-dna-l@rootsweb.com |> |Subject: [Norton AntiSpam][DNA] New Contract |> | |> | - This mail is in HTML. Some elements may be ommited in plain text. |> | - |> | |> |Hi Good Morning |> |, |> |I tried sending you this document earlier but noticed the failure |> |delivery |> so I |> |had to re-send via Google Doc attachment. |> |Click Here to view the file |> |document. |> |Have a nice day |> |Love, |> |Mary Fern |> | |> |------------------------------- |> |To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENEALOGY-DNA- |> |request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes |> |in the subject and the body of the message |> |> |> |> ------------------------------- |> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to |> GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' |without |> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message |> | |------------------------------- |To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENEALOGY-DNA- |request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in |the subject and the body of the message

    11/02/2015 08:24:13
    1. [DNA] New Contract
    2. MaryFernS via
    3. - This mail is in HTML. Some elements may be ommited in plain text. - Hi Good Morning , I tried sending you this document earlier but noticed the failure delivery so I had to re-send via Google Doc attachment. Click Here to view the file document. Have a nice day Love, Mary Fern

    11/02/2015 07:12:06
    1. [DNA] New Contract
    2. MaryFernS via
    3. - This mail is in HTML. Some elements may be ommited in plain text. - Hi Good Morning , I tried sending you this document earlier but noticed the failure delivery so I had to re-send via Google Doc attachment. Click Here to view the file document. Have a nice day Love, Mary Fern

    11/02/2015 07:12:05
    1. Re: [DNA] New Contract
    2. Wjhonson via
    3. I'm pretty sure this is just spam. They get you to click on a link in order to install malicious software on your computer -----Original Message----- From: Deborah Callicott via <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> To: 'MaryFernS' <MaryFernS@aol.com>; genealogy-dna <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, Nov 2, 2015 10:43 am Subject: [DNA] New Contract Mary, Nothing came through beyond what appears below ....... Kind Regards, Deborah |-----Original Message----- |From: genealogy-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:genealogy-dna- |bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of MaryFernS via |Sent: Monday, November 02, 2015 8:12 AM |To: genealogy-dna-l@rootsweb.com |Subject: [Norton AntiSpam][DNA] New Contract | | - This mail is in HTML. Some elements may be ommited in plain text. - | |Hi Good Morning |, |I tried sending you this document earlier but noticed the failure delivery so I |had to re-send via Google Doc attachment. |Click Here to view the file |document. |Have a nice day |Love, |Mary Fern | |------------------------------- |To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENEALOGY-DNA- |request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in |the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    11/02/2015 06:45:25
    1. [DNA] New Contract
    2. Deborah Callicott via
    3. Mary, Nothing came through beyond what appears below ....... Kind Regards, Deborah |-----Original Message----- |From: genealogy-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:genealogy-dna- |bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of MaryFernS via |Sent: Monday, November 02, 2015 8:12 AM |To: genealogy-dna-l@rootsweb.com |Subject: [Norton AntiSpam][DNA] New Contract | | - This mail is in HTML. Some elements may be ommited in plain text. - | |Hi Good Morning |, |I tried sending you this document earlier but noticed the failure delivery so I |had to re-send via Google Doc attachment. |Click Here to view the file |document. |Have a nice day |Love, |Mary Fern | |------------------------------- |To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENEALOGY-DNA- |request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in |the subject and the body of the message

    11/02/2015 06:39:25
    1. Re: [DNA] New Contract
    2. Marleen Van Horne via
    3. I don't think this was spam. Mary Fern wrote to me because the link did not post. I also got messages saying her message was in html, not plain text. That apparently was why the link did not post. If it was spam, that might explain the html. Marleen

    11/02/2015 05:12:52