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Hi Marilyn, Any genetic genealogist or adoptee on 23andMe should opt into Open Sharing as soon as possible. This will make for a far more efficient segment triangulation process, empowering customers to advance their genetic goals with greater ease than ever before. Failing to opt into Open Sharing is as gargantuan a mistake for genealogists as failing to exchange pedigree charts with one's matches. Very Respectfully, Mr. Shannon S. Christmas Sent from my iPhone On Nov 10, 2015, at 2:42 PM, Marilyn Bess via <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > I have read several favorable comments about the coming new open sharing on > 23andme, is any one considering not open sharing and why? Marilyn > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have read several favorable comments about the coming new open sharing on 23andme, is any one considering not open sharing and why? Marilyn

I agree with your analysis. If they both upload to GEDmatch, you can lower the threshold and confirm it. Jim Bartlett On 11/10/15, coverly via<genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: A new genetic cousin overlaps with two known cousins. Among the known cousins, one is Paternal (PatCuz), one is Maternal (MatCuz). Here are the segments: Mom vs. PatCuz 6 90000000 106000000 14.9 cM 3007 Mom vs. MatCuz 6 54000000 125000000 50.6 cM 12489 Mom vs. NewCuz 6 78000000 98000000 15.8 cM 3890 NewCuz does not match either PatCuz or MatCuz. I'm working on the idea that the new cousin must be a Paternal Cousin - his segment doesn't fully cover PatCuz's common segment, but his segment does fully cover MatCuz's segment. Thooughts? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to G[1]ENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message References 1. mailto:ENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com

PatCuz is already on gedmatch. Perhaps NewCuz will give it a whirl. MatCuz has never answered any messages except the invite - thank goodness he did that, and that he has an unusual name ;) His match confirmed a line back to ~1800 On 11/10/15 11:56 AM, Jim Bartlett wrote: > I agree with your analysis. If they both upload to GEDmatch, you can > lower the threshold and confirm it. > Jim Bartlett > On 11/10/15, coverly via<genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > A new genetic cousin overlaps with two known cousins. Among the known > cousins, one is Paternal (PatCuz), one is Maternal (MatCuz). Here are > the segments: > Mom vs. PatCuz 6 90000000 106000000 14.9 cM 3007 > Mom vs. MatCuz 6 54000000 125000000 50.6 cM 12489 > > Mom vs. NewCuz 6 78000000 98000000 15.8 cM 3890 > > NewCuz does not match either PatCuz or MatCuz. > > I'm working on the idea that the new cousin must be a Paternal Cousin > - his segment doesn't fully cover PatCuz's common segment, but his > segment does fully cover MatCuz's segment. > > Thooughts? > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com > <mailto:ENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

A new genetic cousin overlaps with two known cousins. Among the known cousins, one is Paternal (PatCuz), one is Maternal (MatCuz). Here are the segments: Mom vs. PatCuz 6 90000000 106000000 14.9 cM 3007 Mom vs. MatCuz 6 54000000 125000000 50.6 cM 12489 Mom vs. NewCuz 6 78000000 98000000 15.8 cM 3890 NewCuz does not match either PatCuz or MatCuz. I'm working on the idea that the new cousin must be a Paternal Cousin - his segment doesn't fully cover PatCuz's common segment, but his segment does fully cover MatCuz's segment. Thooughts?

To add to Karin's advice, the very large file many of us will get (one file with all the COA data, not multiple files) may be too large to open fully in Excel. My version of Excel gave an error message with advice on how to separate out the data into multiples using a text editor (Notepad or whatnot). Excel then opened the file except that the end of the alphabet was not included. So don't panic, the data is there, but you may need to take additional steps to see all of it. On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 5:11 AM, Karin Corbeil via < genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > If anyone is still have issues getting the CoA download at DNAGedcom, > please > send an email to support2@dnagedcom.com with your DNAGedcom user name. > > Some of the files are very large and need time to build. > > The other issue I am seeing is that once the download has completed, people > are trying to download the 23andMe folder in the View files area. This > will > cause an error. You need to click on the folder "23andMe" in the left hand > column and then the files will be in the right hand column. Right click on > the file in the right hand column and select download. > > Karin Corbeil > Support for DNAGedcom > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Karla Huebner calypsospots AT gmail.com

Robert, I would love to do that as well but I have very little matches above 12cM as I'm German and not American ;-) Andreas, who hopes more Europeans will take DNA tests > On 10 Nov 2015, at 07:16, Robert Paine via <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Kuba > Keep in mind that a large percentage of those small and tiny matches are > going to be false positives. I prefer to spend my time working with larger > matches (12cM and larger) which are less likely to be false positives. > > RPaine > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kuba Krchak via > Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 2:02 PM > To: G. Magoon ; genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [DNA] Have you invited all your CoA matches? Only less than > 48hleft > > Greg, > > you will still only have 2000 matches, 7cM up. CoA gives you random public > subset of 1000, but 5cM up, so there are definitely gonna be novel matches > you never gonna find elsewhere. > > Regards, > Kuba > > On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 7:12 PM, G. Magoon via <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> > wrote: > >> Andreas, >> I had been under the (perhaps mistaken) impression that those who had >> public names (and would be reported in the Countries of Ancestry download) >> would still be available to receive genome sharing invitations following >> the transformation. This is something I'd like to do eventually anyway, >> but >> is it necessary to do before the website changes? >> Thanks, >> Greg >> >> On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 12:25 PM, Andreas West via < >> genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> >>> This is crazy, got two more sharing requests accepted whilst writing the >>> email. I guess these are genealogists who're as crazy as us, writing >>> last >>> minute invites! >>> >>> Go and try it yourself, >>> >>> Andreas (WEST) born BASSO >>> >>> My ancestors: [http://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/Basso-Family- >>> Tree-23](http://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/Basso-Family-Tree-23) >>> "Andreas West via" <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> >>>> not sure if everyone has done that, better do it now as time is >>> expiring. I'm >>>> in the process of inviting all the known people in my CoA (also the >> same >>> for >>>> my mum), especially those that match into known triangulated groups. >>>> >>>> How can you do it you might ask? Well, let's hope the name isn't to >>> common (I >>>> had a Frank Carter and there were too many). You just click on the >> Loupe >>>> which >>>> is in the top right corner at 23andme and in the search window you >> enter >>> the >>>> name (first and surname) and then click search. You can limit to >> people. >>> If >>>> you have more than one result, check for the upper and lowercase >>> spelling or >>>> nicknames. If it's too many, don't invite, only invite one. >>>> >>>> I just send out 30 invites and got already two who immediately shared, >>> one is >>>> matching into a known TG, the other not yet (all in 2h). Great >>>> success, >>> no >>>> idea why they weren't in my match list as I always invited all of >>>> them. >>>> >>>> Anyway, good luck for your research, >>>> >>>> Andreas (WEST) born BASSO >>>> >>>> My ancestors: [http://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/Basso-Family- >>>> Tree-23](http://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/Basso-Family-Tree-23) >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENEALOGY-DNA- >>>> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >>> the >>>> subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

We all have different goals for doing DNA genealogy. Some can occasionally by hard work extract a small benefit from anonymous matches, so anonymous matches can have a benefit for some people. In my view, if some extract some benefit from anonymous matches, they are worth keeping in the system. Sometimes we have very little information to work with, and we have to grasp any small anonymous crumb we can find. John. Sent from my iPad > On 9/11/2015, at 5:09 pm, Andreas West via <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > It all depends why you're doing DNA genealogy. My goal is not only triangulation or corroborating of matches as IBD. I want to find the common ancestor as well and verify my family tree and correct/expand it. > > Is it 100% verified that you triangulate with a CoA match if you and another person (so all three of you) match on that same segment? > > But even then you can't communicate with that person. > > Andreas > >> On 9 Nov 2015, at 01:19, jlerch1@lighttube.net wrote: >> >> I guess I wasn't clear about the Anonymous persons with whom we match. The corroboration happens because on Countries of Ancestry as presently constructed I and my match who has no other corroboration BOTH MATCH the Anonymous person with supposed grandparent profile >> (Vanuatu, Israel, Latvia, Slovakia) >> ==>AT THE SAME SPOT my uncorroborated match and I match<==. As Jim B said, he (and I) on occassion even figured out who an anonymous person was. >> Bottom line: I probably won't mind the new 23&Me setup. It's just that 23's various pronouncements are sufficiently ambiguous that unless they're saving a backup to the present setup, there potentially could be a lot of unhappy people here on genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com. >> BTW the procedure above for corroborating my uncorroborated match worked better before 23 changed their protocol several months ago by increasing the weighting for grandparents with a profile of (4X Same Country) and (3X Same Country). >> >> >> On Sun, 8 Nov 2015 16:38:18 +0800, Andreas West <ahnen@awest.de> wrote: >> It has no value as you will never find out on which chromosome and segment you match. As he/she isn't interested in genealogy. >> >> We have to accept that there are lots of people on 23andme that took the test for health concerns only. >> >> Also, as much as I love our hobby I also accepted that it's wrong to evangelize everyone how wonderful it is. Some people just don't want and the solution by 23andme is the best IMO. Let them have their peace. >> >> Andreas >> >>> On 8 Nov 2015, at 03:15, Jim Bartlett via <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: >>> >>> John >>> >>> You got me. You win! >>> >>> Jim - www.segmentology.org >>> >>>> On Nov 7, 2015, at 2:09 PM, jlerch1 via <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Someone asked so what's not to like about losing all the ANONYMOUS Matches. Well: >>>> There have been multiple times when I got a match with someone and NO ONE with whom I was Sharing matched that person. So I went to COuntries of Ancestry and Lo and Behold, both of us had 1 or more Anonymous matches with grandparent profiles LIKE >>>> (Vanuatu, Israel, Latvia, Slovakia). >>>> Now for those of you not getting it, how likely is that 2 person were to have that profile? So I reported the good news to that person that yes our match was corroborated even though I had no idea with whom. >>>> Under the new system, those persons are just going to have to be uncorroborated and maybe that person will stop Sharing. And if Jim B is correct that persons might be Anonymous to everyone but those with whom they Share, that person might totally drop off my list and I'll NEVER be able to write to him on 23 again. >>>> John L >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If anyone is still have issues getting the CoA download at DNAGedcom, please send an email to support2@dnagedcom.com with your DNAGedcom user name. Some of the files are very large and need time to build. The other issue I am seeing is that once the download has completed, people are trying to download the 23andMe folder in the View files area. This will cause an error. You need to click on the folder "23andMe" in the left hand column and then the files will be in the right hand column. Right click on the file in the right hand column and select download. Karin Corbeil Support for DNAGedcom

Rob: I get this error when trying to retrieve the 23andme info even after following their instructions, closing down, restarting, and going to DNAgedcom first: Server Error in '/' Application. ------------------------------ *Object reference not set to an instance of an object.**Description: *An unhandled exception occurred during the execution of the current web request. Please review the stack trace for more information about the error and where it originated in the code. *Exception Details: *System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object. *Source Error:* Line 150: private void DoCOAWork(CancellationToken token, IProgress<int> progressReport) Line 151: {Line 152: mel.GatherCOA(token, progressReport);Line 153: return; Line 154: } *Source File: * f:\HostingSpaces\DNAGedcom\DNAGedcom.com\wwwroot\23andMe\OldLoad.aspx.cs* Line: *152 *Stack Trace:* [NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.] MeAnd23W.MeAnd23Loader.GatherCOA(CancellationToken token, IProgress`1 progressReport) in c:\Users\rwarthen\Source\Workspaces\DNAGedcom\DNAGedcom\MeAnd23W\MeAnd23Loader.cs:424 _23andMe_OldLoad.DoCOAWork(CancellationToken token, IProgress`1 progressReport) in f:\HostingSpaces\DNAGedcom\DNAGedcom.com\wwwroot\23andMe\OldLoad.aspx.cs:152 <>c__DisplayClass2.<btnGetData_Command>b__1() in f:\HostingSpaces\DNAGedcom\DNAGedcom.com\wwwroot\23andMe\OldLoad.aspx.cs:105 System.Threading.Tasks.Task.Execute() +109 System.Runtime.CompilerServices.TaskAwaiter.ThrowForNonSuccess(Task task) +144 System.Runtime.CompilerServices.TaskAwaiter.HandleNonSuccessAndDebuggerNotification(Task task) +84 <btnGetData_Command>d__4.MoveNext() in f:\HostingSpaces\DNAGedcom\DNAGedcom.com\wwwroot\23andMe\OldLoad.aspx.cs:105 System.Runtime.CompilerServices.AsyncMethodBuilderCore.<ThrowAsync>b__4(Object state) +5083556 System.Web.LegacyAspNetSynchronizationContext.CallCallbackPossiblyUnderLock(SendOrPostCallback callback, Object state) +82 ------------------------------ *Version Information:* Microsoft .NET Framework Version:4.0.30319; ASP.NET Version:4.0.30319.34248 Annoying. Steven > -- Steven C. Perkins SCPerkins@gmail.com http://stevencperkins.com/ Indigenous Peoples' Rights http://intelligent-internet.info/law/ipr2.html Indigenous & Ethnic Minority Legal News http://iemlnews.blogspot.com/ Online Journal of Genetics and Genealogy http://jgg-online.blogspot.com/ S.C. Perkins' Genealogy Page http://stevencperkins.com/genealogy.html S.C. Perkins' Genealogy Blog http://scpgen.blogspot.com/

Greg, you will still only have 2000 matches, 7cM up. CoA gives you random public subset of 1000, but 5cM up, so there are definitely gonna be novel matches you never gonna find elsewhere. Regards, Kuba On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 7:12 PM, G. Magoon via <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Andreas, > I had been under the (perhaps mistaken) impression that those who had > public names (and would be reported in the Countries of Ancestry download) > would still be available to receive genome sharing invitations following > the transformation. This is something I'd like to do eventually anyway, but > is it necessary to do before the website changes? > Thanks, > Greg > > On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 12:25 PM, Andreas West via < > genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > This is crazy, got two more sharing requests accepted whilst writing the > > email. I guess these are genealogists who're as crazy as us, writing last > > minute invites! > > > > Go and try it yourself, > > > > Andreas (WEST) born BASSO > > > > My ancestors: [http://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/Basso-Family- > > Tree-23](http://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/Basso-Family-Tree-23) > > "Andreas West via" <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > not sure if everyone has done that, better do it now as time is > > expiring. I'm > > > in the process of inviting all the known people in my CoA (also the > same > > for > > > my mum), especially those that match into known triangulated groups. > > > > > > How can you do it you might ask? Well, let's hope the name isn't to > > common (I > > > had a Frank Carter and there were too many). You just click on the > Loupe > > > which > > > is in the top right corner at 23andme and in the search window you > enter > > the > > > name (first and surname) and then click search. You can limit to > people. > > If > > > you have more than one result, check for the upper and lowercase > > spelling or > > > nicknames. If it's too many, don't invite, only invite one. > > > > > > I just send out 30 invites and got already two who immediately shared, > > one is > > > matching into a known TG, the other not yet (all in 2h). Great success, > > no > > > idea why they weren't in my match list as I always invited all of them. > > > > > > Anyway, good luck for your research, > > > > > > Andreas (WEST) born BASSO > > > > > > My ancestors: [http://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/Basso-Family- > > > Tree-23](http://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/Basso-Family-Tree-23) > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENEALOGY-DNA- > > > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > > the > > > subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks. I waited, just in case. I have gotten bounced out of 23andMe now and then when (I assume) my brother is coming in on the shared login. On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 6:50 PM, Rob Warthen <rob.warthen@dnagedcom.com> wrote: > It used to and I don’t recommend doing that, but I did test it out the > other day and 23andme didn’t log it out on me, which was surprising. Not > sure if they now allow to be logged in more than once or not now, but they > didn’t used to allow that. > > > > *From:* Karla Huebner [mailto:calypsospots@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Monday, November 09, 2015 6:27 PM > *To:* Rob Warthen <rob.warthen@dnagedcom.com>; genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > *Subject:* Re: [DNA] Errors attempting to download COA files from Dnaged > > > > Rob, will the download process get screwed up if we log in on 23andMe > while DNAGedcom is working? > > > > As you may guess, I'm running the download at this moment. > > > > Karla > > > > On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 6:19 PM, Rob Warthen via < > genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > You must be VERY patient with these files as it can continue to process in > the background even when your screen goes away. Try to come back in a > couple of hours and possibly run it again. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: genealogy-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:genealogy-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Marilyn Bess via > Sent: Monday, November 09, 2015 12:27 PM > To: genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Subject: [DNA] Errors attempting to download COA files from Dnaged > > I have been attempting to download COA files with the utility in Dnaged. > one of the messages that I am getting is this: > Server Error in '/' Application. > ------------------------------ > *The process cannot access the file > 'F:\HostingSpaces\DNAGedcom\DNAGedcom.com\wwwroot\App_Data\Members\M E > C\23AndMe\genealogy1_verizon.net_23andMe_COA.csv' because it is being used > by another process* > > > What am I doing wrong? Do I have to be a member to use the tool. I have > logged out of 23andme. I have re-booted my computer to make sure I was > completely out. Marilyn > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > > Karla Huebner > > calypsospots AT gmail.com > -- Karla Huebner calypsospots AT gmail.com

I'm still confused.  Who are CoA matches? When you look at your dna donor's CoA page, there is a drop down menu in the upper left-- Show results for:  These people seem to be the people who are your 'dna relatives' who you are also sharing genomes with? In the display of the chromosomes, there are colored blocks.  If you hover a mouse over a colored block, sometimes information about 'your relative' shows up.  Your relative is an anonymous match with whom you share this piece of dna on this chromosome?  Other times if you hover a mouse over a colored block, information about a specific person shows up.  The person does not show up in your dna donor's list of genetic relatives.  There is the option to invite this person to share genomes.  Are these the people you are inviting?  Are these CoA matches? Thank you,Alisonback to lurking

I've definitely had German-American matches. One was the only person in common with my mother's German relative (we are still solving that mystery but have been able to determine which family in the US and which villages in Germany. There are a lot more German-American matches on my father's side, but that's not saying loads of them, just that quite a few people are definitely on the German-from-Poland side. Since my earliest immigrants came around 1850 the DNA matches should be about equal for Europe and the New World, but of course they aren't. On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 8:16 PM, gretta gribble <ggribble@gmail.com> wrote: > have you even had german american matches? i have not had a single match > going back to my father's mother - but quite a few to his father's father > (cornwall). > > On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 7:07 PM, Karla Huebner via < > genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > >> Yes! More Germans testing, please! The Scandinavians have been very much >> inclined to test, but few Germans actually living in Germany have tested >> (many thanks to the one whose test revealed that my mother's grandfather >> was German-American). As for the French... well, I feel dubious as to >> whether my family will ever verify the rumor that we are part French! >> >> On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 7:51 PM, Andreas West via < >> genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com >> > wrote: >> >> > Robert, I would love to do that as well but I have very little matches >> > above 12cM as I'm German and not American ;-) >> > >> > Andreas, who hopes more Europeans will take DNA tests >> > >> > > On 10 Nov 2015, at 07:16, Robert Paine via < >> genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> >> > wrote: >> > > >> > > Kuba >> > > Keep in mind that a large percentage of those small and tiny matches >> are >> > > going to be false positives. I prefer to spend my time working with >> > larger >> > > matches (12cM and larger) which are less likely to be false positives. >> > > >> > > RPaine >> > > >> > > -----Original Message----- >> > > From: Kuba Krchak via >> > > Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 2:02 PM >> > > To: G. Magoon ; genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com >> > > Subject: Re: [DNA] Have you invited all your CoA matches? Only less >> than >> > > 48hleft >> > > >> > > Greg, >> > > >> > > you will still only have 2000 matches, 7cM up. CoA gives you random >> > public >> > > subset of 1000, but 5cM up, so there are definitely gonna be novel >> > matches >> > > you never gonna find elsewhere. >> > > >> > > Regards, >> > > Kuba >> > > >> > > On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 7:12 PM, G. Magoon via < >> > genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> >> > > wrote: >> > > >> > >> Andreas, >> > >> I had been under the (perhaps mistaken) impression that those who had >> > >> public names (and would be reported in the Countries of Ancestry >> > download) >> > >> would still be available to receive genome sharing invitations >> following >> > >> the transformation. This is something I'd like to do eventually >> anyway, >> > >> but >> > >> is it necessary to do before the website changes? >> > >> Thanks, >> > >> Greg >> > >> >> > >> On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 12:25 PM, Andreas West via < >> > >> genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> > >> >> > >>> This is crazy, got two more sharing requests accepted whilst writing >> > the >> > >>> email. I guess these are genealogists who're as crazy as us, writing >> > >>> last >> > >>> minute invites! >> > >>> >> > >>> Go and try it yourself, >> > >>> >> > >>> Andreas (WEST) born BASSO >> > >>> >> > >>> My ancestors: [http://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/Basso-Family- >> > >>> Tree-23](http://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/Basso-Family-Tree-23) >> > >>> "Andreas West via" <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> > >>>> Hi, >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> not sure if everyone has done that, better do it now as time is >> > >>> expiring. I'm >> > >>>> in the process of inviting all the known people in my CoA (also the >> > >> same >> > >>> for >> > >>>> my mum), especially those that match into known triangulated >> groups. >> > >>>> >> > >>>> How can you do it you might ask? Well, let's hope the name isn't to >> > >>> common (I >> > >>>> had a Frank Carter and there were too many). You just click on the >> > >> Loupe >> > >>>> which >> > >>>> is in the top right corner at 23andme and in the search window you >> > >> enter >> > >>> the >> > >>>> name (first and surname) and then click search. You can limit to >> > >> people. >> > >>> If >> > >>>> you have more than one result, check for the upper and lowercase >> > >>> spelling or >> > >>>> nicknames. If it's too many, don't invite, only invite one. >> > >>>> >> > >>>> I just send out 30 invites and got already two who immediately >> shared, >> > >>> one is >> > >>>> matching into a known TG, the other not yet (all in 2h). Great >> > >>>> success, >> > >>> no >> > >>>> idea why they weren't in my match list as I always invited all of >> > >>>> them. >> > >>>> >> > >>>> Anyway, good luck for your research, >> > >>>> >> > >>>> Andreas (WEST) born BASSO >> > >>>> >> > >>>> My ancestors: [http://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/Basso-Family- >> > >>>> Tree-23](http://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/Basso-Family-Tree-23) >> > >>>> >> > >>>> ------------------------------- >> > >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GENEALOGY-DNA- >> > >>>> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> > in >> > >>> the >> > >>>> subject and the body of the message >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> ------------------------------- >> > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > >>> GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> > >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >>> >> > >> >> > >> ------------------------------- >> > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > >> GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> > >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> > > >> > > ------------------------------- >> > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > > GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> > the >> > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > >> > > >> > > ------------------------------- >> > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Karla Huebner >> calypsospots AT gmail.com >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > -- Karla Huebner calypsospots AT gmail.com

Yes! More Germans testing, please! The Scandinavians have been very much inclined to test, but few Germans actually living in Germany have tested (many thanks to the one whose test revealed that my mother's grandfather was German-American). As for the French... well, I feel dubious as to whether my family will ever verify the rumor that we are part French! On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 7:51 PM, Andreas West via <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > wrote: > Robert, I would love to do that as well but I have very little matches > above 12cM as I'm German and not American ;-) > > Andreas, who hopes more Europeans will take DNA tests > > > On 10 Nov 2015, at 07:16, Robert Paine via <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> > wrote: > > > > Kuba > > Keep in mind that a large percentage of those small and tiny matches are > > going to be false positives. I prefer to spend my time working with > larger > > matches (12cM and larger) which are less likely to be false positives. > > > > RPaine > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Kuba Krchak via > > Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 2:02 PM > > To: G. Magoon ; genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [DNA] Have you invited all your CoA matches? Only less than > > 48hleft > > > > Greg, > > > > you will still only have 2000 matches, 7cM up. CoA gives you random > public > > subset of 1000, but 5cM up, so there are definitely gonna be novel > matches > > you never gonna find elsewhere. > > > > Regards, > > Kuba > > > > On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 7:12 PM, G. Magoon via < > genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> > > wrote: > > > >> Andreas, > >> I had been under the (perhaps mistaken) impression that those who had > >> public names (and would be reported in the Countries of Ancestry > download) > >> would still be available to receive genome sharing invitations following > >> the transformation. This is something I'd like to do eventually anyway, > >> but > >> is it necessary to do before the website changes? > >> Thanks, > >> Greg > >> > >> On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 12:25 PM, Andreas West via < > >> genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > >> > >>> This is crazy, got two more sharing requests accepted whilst writing > the > >>> email. I guess these are genealogists who're as crazy as us, writing > >>> last > >>> minute invites! > >>> > >>> Go and try it yourself, > >>> > >>> Andreas (WEST) born BASSO > >>> > >>> My ancestors: [http://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/Basso-Family- > >>> Tree-23](http://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/Basso-Family-Tree-23) > >>> "Andreas West via" <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > >>>> Hi, > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> not sure if everyone has done that, better do it now as time is > >>> expiring. I'm > >>>> in the process of inviting all the known people in my CoA (also the > >> same > >>> for > >>>> my mum), especially those that match into known triangulated groups. > >>>> > >>>> How can you do it you might ask? Well, let's hope the name isn't to > >>> common (I > >>>> had a Frank Carter and there were too many). You just click on the > >> Loupe > >>>> which > >>>> is in the top right corner at 23andme and in the search window you > >> enter > >>> the > >>>> name (first and surname) and then click search. You can limit to > >> people. > >>> If > >>>> you have more than one result, check for the upper and lowercase > >>> spelling or > >>>> nicknames. If it's too many, don't invite, only invite one. > >>>> > >>>> I just send out 30 invites and got already two who immediately shared, > >>> one is > >>>> matching into a known TG, the other not yet (all in 2h). Great > >>>> success, > >>> no > >>>> idea why they weren't in my match list as I always invited all of > >>>> them. > >>>> > >>>> Anyway, good luck for your research, > >>>> > >>>> Andreas (WEST) born BASSO > >>>> > >>>> My ancestors: [http://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/Basso-Family- > >>>> Tree-23](http://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/Basso-Family-Tree-23) > >>>> > >>>> ------------------------------- > >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENEALOGY-DNA- > >>>> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > >>> the > >>>> subject and the body of the message > >>> > >>> > >>> ------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>> GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >>> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Karla Huebner calypsospots AT gmail.com

have you even had german american matches? i have not had a single match going back to my father's mother - but quite a few to his father's father (cornwall). On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 7:07 PM, Karla Huebner via < genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Yes! More Germans testing, please! The Scandinavians have been very much > inclined to test, but few Germans actually living in Germany have tested > (many thanks to the one whose test revealed that my mother's grandfather > was German-American). As for the French... well, I feel dubious as to > whether my family will ever verify the rumor that we are part French! > > On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 7:51 PM, Andreas West via < > genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > > wrote: > > > Robert, I would love to do that as well but I have very little matches > > above 12cM as I'm German and not American ;-) > > > > Andreas, who hopes more Europeans will take DNA tests > > > > > On 10 Nov 2015, at 07:16, Robert Paine via <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Kuba > > > Keep in mind that a large percentage of those small and tiny matches > are > > > going to be false positives. I prefer to spend my time working with > > larger > > > matches (12cM and larger) which are less likely to be false positives. > > > > > > RPaine > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Kuba Krchak via > > > Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 2:02 PM > > > To: G. Magoon ; genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: Re: [DNA] Have you invited all your CoA matches? Only less > than > > > 48hleft > > > > > > Greg, > > > > > > you will still only have 2000 matches, 7cM up. CoA gives you random > > public > > > subset of 1000, but 5cM up, so there are definitely gonna be novel > > matches > > > you never gonna find elsewhere. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Kuba > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 7:12 PM, G. Magoon via < > > genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > >> Andreas, > > >> I had been under the (perhaps mistaken) impression that those who had > > >> public names (and would be reported in the Countries of Ancestry > > download) > > >> would still be available to receive genome sharing invitations > following > > >> the transformation. This is something I'd like to do eventually > anyway, > > >> but > > >> is it necessary to do before the website changes? > > >> Thanks, > > >> Greg > > >> > > >> On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 12:25 PM, Andreas West via < > > >> genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > >> > > >>> This is crazy, got two more sharing requests accepted whilst writing > > the > > >>> email. I guess these are genealogists who're as crazy as us, writing > > >>> last > > >>> minute invites! > > >>> > > >>> Go and try it yourself, > > >>> > > >>> Andreas (WEST) born BASSO > > >>> > > >>> My ancestors: [http://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/Basso-Family- > > >>> Tree-23](http://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/Basso-Family-Tree-23) > > >>> "Andreas West via" <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > >>>> Hi, > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> not sure if everyone has done that, better do it now as time is > > >>> expiring. I'm > > >>>> in the process of inviting all the known people in my CoA (also the > > >> same > > >>> for > > >>>> my mum), especially those that match into known triangulated groups. > > >>>> > > >>>> How can you do it you might ask? Well, let's hope the name isn't to > > >>> common (I > > >>>> had a Frank Carter and there were too many). You just click on the > > >> Loupe > > >>>> which > > >>>> is in the top right corner at 23andme and in the search window you > > >> enter > > >>> the > > >>>> name (first and surname) and then click search. You can limit to > > >> people. > > >>> If > > >>>> you have more than one result, check for the upper and lowercase > > >>> spelling or > > >>>> nicknames. If it's too many, don't invite, only invite one. > > >>>> > > >>>> I just send out 30 invites and got already two who immediately > shared, > > >>> one is > > >>>> matching into a known TG, the other not yet (all in 2h). Great > > >>>> success, > > >>> no > > >>>> idea why they weren't in my match list as I always invited all of > > >>>> them. > > >>>> > > >>>> Anyway, good luck for your research, > > >>>> > > >>>> Andreas (WEST) born BASSO > > >>>> > > >>>> My ancestors: [http://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/Basso-Family- > > >>>> Tree-23](http://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/Basso-Family-Tree-23) > > >>>> > > >>>> ------------------------------- > > >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENEALOGY-DNA- > > >>>> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in > > >>> the > > >>>> subject and the body of the message > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> ------------------------------- > > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > >>> GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > > >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >>> > > >> > > >> ------------------------------- > > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > >> GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > > >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >> > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > Karla Huebner > calypsospots AT gmail.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Just to follow up on my first question, I will share the reply I received from Christine on the 23andMe forums: > > "@GregRM, yes you will be able to view the messages you had exchanged with > anonymous matches who accepted an introduction." > On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 9:30 AM, G. Magoon <gregm4584@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks very much for this, Shannon. I had a couple of questions about the > changes that I hadn't seen addressed anywhere (my apologies if these are > already answered somewhere): > 1) "Soon, any anonymous matches with whom you are not sharing genomes will > be unreachable." Will we still have access to the old messages sent to/from > these anonymous matches? > 2) Will we retain the ability to do IBD cross-comparisons between people > we are sharing with? (i.e. if we are sharing with B and sharing with C, > will we still be able to see segments shared between B and C?) This is a > really nice feature of the current site (if somewhat cumbersome to use > extensively) as it can help with figuring out whether a particular match is > on the maternal or paternal side and figuring out who is included in a > group with a mutually shared IBD segment originating from the same ancestor. > > Thanks very much in advance, > Greg > > On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 9:38 AM, Shannon Christmas via < > genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > >> Get ready for the new 23andMe. Here's how: >> >> http://throughthetreesblog.tumblr.com/post/132772718132/prepare-for-the-new-23andme >> #genealogy >> <http://throughthetreesblog.tumblr.com/post/132772718132/prepare-for-the-new-23andme#genealogy> >> >> Very Respectfully, >> Shannon >> -- >> Mr. Shannon S. Christmas >> Chief Market Advisor | Design Strategist >> The Christmas Collective >> <http://christmascollective.wix.com/the-christmas-collective> >> Strategic Real Estate and Land Use Solutions >> New York, NY | Washington, DC >> P: 212.433.0586 | 202.618.1687 >> F: 1.888.788.5984 >> http://www.linkedin.com/in/shannonchristmas/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >

It used to and I don’t recommend doing that, but I did test it out the other day and 23andme didn’t log it out on me, which was surprising. Not sure if they now allow to be logged in more than once or not now, but they didn’t used to allow that. From: Karla Huebner [mailto:calypsospots@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, November 09, 2015 6:27 PM To: Rob Warthen <rob.warthen@dnagedcom.com>; genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DNA] Errors attempting to download COA files from Dnaged Rob, will the download process get screwed up if we log in on 23andMe while DNAGedcom is working? As you may guess, I'm running the download at this moment. Karla On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 6:19 PM, Rob Warthen via <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com <mailto:genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> > wrote: You must be VERY patient with these files as it can continue to process in the background even when your screen goes away. Try to come back in a couple of hours and possibly run it again. -----Original Message----- From: genealogy-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com <mailto:genealogy-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com> [mailto:genealogy-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com <mailto:genealogy-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com> ] On Behalf Of Marilyn Bess via Sent: Monday, November 09, 2015 12:27 PM To: genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com <mailto:genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> Subject: [DNA] Errors attempting to download COA files from Dnaged I have been attempting to download COA files with the utility in Dnaged. one of the messages that I am getting is this: Server Error in '/' Application. ------------------------------ *The process cannot access the file 'F:\HostingSpaces\DNAGedcom\DNAGedcom.com\wwwroot\App_Data\Members\M E C\23AndMe\genealogy1_verizon.net_23andMe_COA.csv' because it is being used by another process* What am I doing wrong? Do I have to be a member to use the tool. I have logged out of 23andme. I have re-booted my computer to make sure I was completely out. Marilyn ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com <mailto:GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com <mailto:GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Karla Huebner calypsospots AT gmail.com <http://gmail.com>