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    1. Re: [DNA] counting databases
    2. Karla Huebner via
    3. I too have had a decent response rate at 23andMe, but it has been nowhere near what Eric describes. Perhaps he has a better invitation than mine! Or perhaps it is a matter of sharing more than 30 cM. Very few of my family's matches fall into that category, and some who do are unresponsive. Karla On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Franklin Genetics via < genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Nice to know I'm not the only one with such positive responsiveness and > results using 23andMe Eric. My share/response rate is similar to yours. > I've not and wont test at ancestry. I seldom get replies for anything at > FTDNA and have few close enough matches to hash out. :( > > On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 7:48 AM, Eric S Johnson via < > genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > When I go through them > > all > > and count up "everyone who shares more than 30 cM with us, > collectively," I > > get (aggregated over these 27 exomes) . > > > > 160 "public" matches on 23andMe (of which >80% have "shared") > > > >

    12/01/2015 05:59:04
    1. Re: [DNA] counting databases
    2. Franklin Genetics via
    3. Nice to know I'm not the only one with such positive responsiveness and results using 23andMe Eric. My share/response rate is similar to yours. I've not and wont test at ancestry. I seldom get replies for anything at FTDNA and have few close enough matches to hash out. :( On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 7:48 AM, Eric S Johnson via < genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > My little contribution to the "how many matches" counting game: I've sent > spit kits from each of the three PGSs to all of my kids' grandparents and > one sibling each (and in one case, two siblings). When I go through them > all > and count up "everyone who shares more than 30 cM with us, collectively," I > get (aggregated over these 27 exomes) . > > 160 "public" matches on 23andMe (of which >80% have "shared") > > 112 matches on AncestryDNA > > 36 matches on FTDNA. > > I find the chances of "solving" them (identifying a paper-trail > genealogical > relationship) is pretty decent for anything over 60 cM: of the 39 matches > who meet this criterion (out of ~300 mentioned above (some of the matches > are on more than one platform)), 23 are solved (mostly all 4th cousins or > closer). Of the 16 remaining >60cM ones, the main problem is > "non-responsive > + private tree" rather than "we can't figure it out no matter how hard we > try" (of which "adopted match" is a subset). Of the <60cM matches, my solve > rate peters out quickly as of yet. I don't see the solve rate among these > 39 > >60cM "high matches" differing much between the three PGSs. > > > > Best, > > Eric > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Lisa R Franklin RN,BSN Admin, Franklin Y DNA Project http://trackingyourroots.com/FranklinGenetics/ FranklinGenetics@gmail.com http://trackingyourroots.com/DNA (How To presentation (23andme), tips, & helps. *2**3**&**m**e**: **The World's Largest database & coincidentally the ONLY one with all the tools you need for genealogy and DNA!--* http://refer.23andme.com/v2/share/6158544791499756901/4672616e6b6c696e47656e657469637340676d61696c2e636f6d BEST GENETIC GENEALOGY BOOK! http://www.amazon.com/Genetic-Genealogy-Emily-D-Aulicino-ebook/dp/B00HJJWBU2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1391174801&sr=8-1&keywords=Genetic+Genealogy

    12/01/2015 04:30:35
    1. Re: [DNA] 23andme members removing permission to use medical data
    2. McKee via
    3. Good morning Robert, Thanks for the feedback. Another challenge but seems actually welcome right now as I am just awake again and looking at this from this side of yesterday. Like having a hangover I imagine. I did not know what you've just shared with me and I guess I will feel the ramifications as the days go by. Believe it or not I don't recall ever seeing any discussion about changing email addresses at 23andme or I perhaps would have been more wary. I have only posted on 23's forums a couple of times until recently and joined several of those in the last couple of weeks to try and keep up with this new 23andme coming down the tracks like a runaway train seemingly from all I had heard before joining the forums and more so since joining same. However, with the index card system I have maintained with all my 23andme matches from day one, I have built a really good system for knowing who my matches are with and what grandparent line they fit into on many segments. I no longer worry about where they actually fit on the browser once I have recorded the details seen the initial match and recorded same. They fit into a zone. Those that are not so easy to ID are still narrowed down to where they WILL go. Plus I usually cc'd myself on most lengthy messages I shared with matches along the way. I hope these are a help in the future 23andme. I enjoy this work a great deal and I think this is why I felt so distressed with my issues yesterday. Must baby 23andme! Thanks to everyone on all the message boards for tolerating my public outcry even though most had no choice I do very much value the freedom of expression granted to all of us no matter what our issue may be. A very valuable freedom. ;-) Linda On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 10:05 AM, Robert Paine <rpaine@vom.com> wrote: > Linda > I do not know if you have noticed yet but when you change the email > address you break the existing sharing links for the profile that you > changed the email address for. The computer will show that that person to > be sharing but will not allow the comparison. (I had to cancel some > existing sharing and send new sharing requests for the transferred profile) > > RPaine > > -----Original Message----- From: McKee via > Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2015 3:34 AM > To: genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [DNA] 23andme members removing permission to use medical data > > As an update to my post, I am very relieved that I appear to have my two > missing 23andme accounts restored. > > Thanks very much to Christine, 23andme moderator, and Customer Service for > the assistance. > > Good Lord Willing, I will not be changing email addresses at 23andme ever > again! > > Linda > > On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 3:44 AM, McKee <ldm.127187@gmail.com> wrote: > > I believe I have created a personal vendetta by 23andme Customer Service >> towards me after I mistakenly tried to change my son's email address to >> remove his account from my account. >> >> After reading the 23andme moderator comment that only one account would be >> allowed per email address on the "New Experience" I tried to make that >> change on my account while I am still a part of the old 23andme and once I >> changed the email address from my son's account both my account and his >> vanished. >> >> All day yesterday I attempted to correct this with 23andme Customer >> Service and back and forth with two different women in customer service >> who >> eventually became hostile because I was talking to them from the third >> account I manage-------my deceased husband's account that I have always >> managed and he never the first time signed in with-----the second customer >> service rep basically shutting me off because I was contacting customer >> service on the only account I have left to contact them with. >> >> I have never been so frustrated in my entire life. >> >> All this just from trying to change an email address. >> >> >> Linda Stanfill McKee >> >> >> >> > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    12/01/2015 03:47:11
    1. Re: [DNA] 23andme members removing permission to use medical data
    2. max via
    3. The wrote me: Thank you for contacting the 23andMe Team. The functionality of Family Inheritance: Advanced is now located in the DNA View of DNA Relatives. You can use the DNA view of DNA Relatives to learn about the genetic relationship between yourself and your shared connections. To see the segments you have in common, select your name and your relative's name, then click Compare. You can locate the DNA view of DNA Relatives here: [1]https://you.23andme.com/tools/relatives/dna/ My profiles have also not changed yet so I cannot see this. -- Web sites I manage - Personal home page, After Hours Band (I play keyboards), Greater Houston Jewish Genealogical Society, Woodside Civic Club, Skala, Ukraine Shtetlink, Joniskelis, Lithuania Shtetlink, and pet volunteer project - Yizkor book project: [2]www.texsys.com/websites.html -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [DNA] 23andme members removing permission to use medical data From: Franklin Genetics via <[3]genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> Date: Tue, December 01, 2015 6:15 am To: Ann Turner <[4]dnacousins@gmail.com>, "[5]genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com" <[6]genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> Whew! That WILL be an improvement Ann--I was constantly posting under the wrong one depending on who I'd happened to click last--so confusing! LOL Glad that is going away! Are you hearing of many who are finding they don't have the Family Inheritance Advanced tool yet with the new transition? The 23andMe you tube vidoes they released pre switch show it being on the DNA Relatives page but as none of mine have transitioned yet (I'm sure I'm in group 4-complex accounts) I don't have a clue, just what I'm seeing and I'm not sure if the posters are folks who knew about the tool to start with. Thx! Lisa On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 5:57 AM, Ann Turner via <[7]genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Good to hear! Just in case others are wondering about the original > statement of one profile per e-mail address, that applies only to the new > community forums, where you can have only one community nickname per > account. I actually like that, since it will save myself from accidentally > posting under a different profile (like I used to do all the time in the > old forums). If you have more than one profile who would like to post, I > suppose you could pick a broad nickname like McKee_Family and sign each > post with your given name. > > Ann Turner > > On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 3:34 AM, McKee via <[8]genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> > wrote: > > > As an update to my post, I am very relieved that I appear to have my > two > > missing 23andme accounts restored. > > > > Thanks very much to Christine, 23andme moderator, and Customer Service > for > > the assistance. > > > > Good Lord Willing, I will not be changing email addresses at 23andme > ever > > again! > > > > Linda > > > > On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 3:44 AM, McKee <[9]ldm.127187@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > I believe I have created a personal vendetta by 23andme Customer > Service > > > towards me after I mistakenly tried to change my son's email address to > > > remove his account from my account. > > > > > > After reading the 23andme moderator comment that only one account would > > be > > > allowed per email address on the "New Experience" I tried to make that > > > change on my account while I am still a part of the old 23andme and > once > > I > > > changed the email address from my son's account both my account and his > > > vanished. > > > > > > All day yesterday I attempted to correct this with 23andme Customer > > > Service and back and forth with two different women in customer service > > who > > > eventually became hostile because I was talking to them from the third > > > account I manage-------my deceased husband's account that I have always > > > managed and he never the first time signed in with-----the second > > customer > > > service rep basically shutting me off because I was contacting customer > > > service on the only account I have left to contact them with. > > > > > > I have never been so frustrated in my entire life. > > > > > > All this just from trying to change an email address. > > > > > > > > > Linda Stanfill McKee > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [10]GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [11]GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Lisa R Franklin RN,BSN Admin, Franklin Y DNA Project [12]http://trackingyourroots.com/FranklinGenetics/ [13]FranklinGenetics@gmail.com [14]http://trackingyourroots.com/DNA (How To presentation (23andme), tips, & helps. *2**3**&**m**e**: **The World's Largest database & coincidentally the ONLY one with all the tools you need for genealogy and DNA!--* [15]http://refer.23andme.com/v2/share/6158544791499756901/4672616e6b6c6 96e47656e657469637340676d61696c2e636f6d BEST GENETIC GENEALOGY BOOK! [16]http://www.amazon.com/Genetic-Genealogy-Emily-D-Aulicino-ebook/dp/B 00HJJWBU2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1391174801&sr=8-1&keywords=Genetic+Gen ealogy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [17]GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message References 1. https://you.23andme.com/tools/relatives/dna/ 2. http://www.texsys.com/websites.html 3. mailto:genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com 4. mailto:dnacousins@gmail.com 5. mailto:genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com 6. mailto:genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com 7. mailto:genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com 8. mailto:genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com 9. mailto:ldm.127187@gmail.com 10. mailto:GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com 11. mailto:GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com 12. http://trackingyourroots.com/FranklinGenetics 13. mailto:FranklinGenetics@gmail.com 14. http://trackingyourroots.com/DNA 15. http://refer.23andme.com/v2/share/6158544791499756901/4672616e6b6c696e47656e657469637340676d61696c2e636f6d 16. http://www.amazon.com/Genetic-Genealogy-Emily-D-Aulicino-ebook/dp/B00HJJWBU2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1391174801&sr=8-1&keywords=Genetic+Genealogy 17. mailto:GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com

    12/01/2015 03:47:04
    1. Re: [DNA] 23andme members removing permission to use medical data
    2. Robert Paine via
    3. Linda I do not know if you have noticed yet but when you change the email address you break the existing sharing links for the profile that you changed the email address for. The computer will show that that person to be sharing but will not allow the comparison. (I had to cancel some existing sharing and send new sharing requests for the transferred profile) RPaine -----Original Message----- From: McKee via Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2015 3:34 AM To: genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DNA] 23andme members removing permission to use medical data As an update to my post, I am very relieved that I appear to have my two missing 23andme accounts restored. Thanks very much to Christine, 23andme moderator, and Customer Service for the assistance. Good Lord Willing, I will not be changing email addresses at 23andme ever again! Linda On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 3:44 AM, McKee <ldm.127187@gmail.com> wrote: > I believe I have created a personal vendetta by 23andme Customer Service > towards me after I mistakenly tried to change my son's email address to > remove his account from my account. > > After reading the 23andme moderator comment that only one account would be > allowed per email address on the "New Experience" I tried to make that > change on my account while I am still a part of the old 23andme and once I > changed the email address from my son's account both my account and his > vanished. > > All day yesterday I attempted to correct this with 23andme Customer > Service and back and forth with two different women in customer service > who > eventually became hostile because I was talking to them from the third > account I manage-------my deceased husband's account that I have always > managed and he never the first time signed in with-----the second customer > service rep basically shutting me off because I was contacting customer > service on the only account I have left to contact them with. > > I have never been so frustrated in my entire life. > > All this just from trying to change an email address. > > > Linda Stanfill McKee > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    12/01/2015 01:05:31
    1. Re: [DNA] 23andme members removing permission to use medical data
    2. Franklin Genetics via
    3. Whew! That WILL be an improvement Ann--I was constantly posting under the wrong one depending on who I'd happened to click last--so confusing! LOL Glad that is going away! Are you hearing of many who are finding they don't have the Family Inheritance Advanced tool yet with the new transition? The 23andMe you tube vidoes they released pre switch show it being on the DNA Relatives page but as none of mine have transitioned yet (I'm sure I'm in group 4-complex accounts) I don't have a clue, just what I'm seeing and I'm not sure if the posters are folks who knew about the tool to start with. Thx! Lisa On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 5:57 AM, Ann Turner via <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Good to hear! Just in case others are wondering about the original > statement of one profile per e-mail address, that applies only to the new > community forums, where you can have only one community nickname per > account. I actually like that, since it will save myself from accidentally > posting under a different profile (like I used to do all the time in the > old forums). If you have more than one profile who would like to post, I > suppose you could pick a broad nickname like McKee_Family and sign each > post with your given name. > > Ann Turner > > On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 3:34 AM, McKee via <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> > wrote: > > > As an update to my post, I am very relieved that I appear to have my > two > > missing 23andme accounts restored. > > > > Thanks very much to Christine, 23andme moderator, and Customer Service > for > > the assistance. > > > > Good Lord Willing, I will not be changing email addresses at 23andme > ever > > again! > > > > Linda > > > > On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 3:44 AM, McKee <ldm.127187@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > I believe I have created a personal vendetta by 23andme Customer > Service > > > towards me after I mistakenly tried to change my son's email address to > > > remove his account from my account. > > > > > > After reading the 23andme moderator comment that only one account would > > be > > > allowed per email address on the "New Experience" I tried to make that > > > change on my account while I am still a part of the old 23andme and > once > > I > > > changed the email address from my son's account both my account and his > > > vanished. > > > > > > All day yesterday I attempted to correct this with 23andme Customer > > > Service and back and forth with two different women in customer service > > who > > > eventually became hostile because I was talking to them from the third > > > account I manage-------my deceased husband's account that I have always > > > managed and he never the first time signed in with-----the second > > customer > > > service rep basically shutting me off because I was contacting customer > > > service on the only account I have left to contact them with. > > > > > > I have never been so frustrated in my entire life. > > > > > > All this just from trying to change an email address. > > > > > > > > > Linda Stanfill McKee > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Lisa R Franklin RN,BSN Admin, Franklin Y DNA Project http://trackingyourroots.com/FranklinGenetics/ FranklinGenetics@gmail.com http://trackingyourroots.com/DNA (How To presentation (23andme), tips, & helps. *2**3**&**m**e**: **The World's Largest database & coincidentally the ONLY one with all the tools you need for genealogy and DNA!--* http://refer.23andme.com/v2/share/6158544791499756901/4672616e6b6c696e47656e657469637340676d61696c2e636f6d BEST GENETIC GENEALOGY BOOK! http://www.amazon.com/Genetic-Genealogy-Emily-D-Aulicino-ebook/dp/B00HJJWBU2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1391174801&sr=8-1&keywords=Genetic+Genealogy

    11/30/2015 11:15:17
    1. Re: [DNA] 23andme members removing permission to use medical data
    2. McKee via
    3. As an update to my post, I am very relieved that I appear to have my two missing 23andme accounts restored. Thanks very much to Christine, 23andme moderator, and Customer Service for the assistance. Good Lord Willing, I will not be changing email addresses at 23andme ever again! Linda On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 3:44 AM, McKee <ldm.127187@gmail.com> wrote: > I believe I have created a personal vendetta by 23andme Customer Service > towards me after I mistakenly tried to change my son's email address to > remove his account from my account. > > After reading the 23andme moderator comment that only one account would be > allowed per email address on the "New Experience" I tried to make that > change on my account while I am still a part of the old 23andme and once I > changed the email address from my son's account both my account and his > vanished. > > All day yesterday I attempted to correct this with 23andme Customer > Service and back and forth with two different women in customer service who > eventually became hostile because I was talking to them from the third > account I manage-------my deceased husband's account that I have always > managed and he never the first time signed in with-----the second customer > service rep basically shutting me off because I was contacting customer > service on the only account I have left to contact them with. > > I have never been so frustrated in my entire life. > > All this just from trying to change an email address. > > > Linda Stanfill McKee > > >

    11/30/2015 10:34:23
    1. Re: [DNA] 23andme members removing permission to use medical data
    2. Ann Turner via
    3. Good to hear! Just in case others are wondering about the original statement of one profile per e-mail address, that applies only to the new community forums, where you can have only one community nickname per account. I actually like that, since it will save myself from accidentally posting under a different profile (like I used to do all the time in the old forums). If you have more than one profile who would like to post, I suppose you could pick a broad nickname like McKee_Family and sign each post with your given name. Ann Turner On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 3:34 AM, McKee via <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > As an update to my post, I am very relieved that I appear to have my two > missing 23andme accounts restored. > > Thanks very much to Christine, 23andme moderator, and Customer Service for > the assistance. > > Good Lord Willing, I will not be changing email addresses at 23andme ever > again! > > Linda > > On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 3:44 AM, McKee <ldm.127187@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I believe I have created a personal vendetta by 23andme Customer Service > > towards me after I mistakenly tried to change my son's email address to > > remove his account from my account. > > > > After reading the 23andme moderator comment that only one account would > be > > allowed per email address on the "New Experience" I tried to make that > > change on my account while I am still a part of the old 23andme and once > I > > changed the email address from my son's account both my account and his > > vanished. > > > > All day yesterday I attempted to correct this with 23andme Customer > > Service and back and forth with two different women in customer service > who > > eventually became hostile because I was talking to them from the third > > account I manage-------my deceased husband's account that I have always > > managed and he never the first time signed in with-----the second > customer > > service rep basically shutting me off because I was contacting customer > > service on the only account I have left to contact them with. > > > > I have never been so frustrated in my entire life. > > > > All this just from trying to change an email address. > > > > > > Linda Stanfill McKee > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    11/30/2015 08:57:51
    1. Re: [DNA] 23andme members removing permission to use medical data
    2. McKee via
    3. I believe I have created a personal vendetta by 23andme Customer Service towards me after I mistakenly tried to change my son's email address to remove his account from my account. After reading the 23andme moderator comment that only one account would be allowed per email address on the "New Experience" I tried to make that change on my account while I am still a part of the old 23andme and once I changed the email address from my son's account both my account and his vanished. All day yesterday I attempted to correct this with 23andme Customer Service and back and forth with two different women in customer service who eventually became hostile because I was talking to them from the third account I manage-------my deceased husband's account that I have always managed and he never the first time signed in with-----the second customer service rep basically shutting me off because I was contacting customer service on the only account I have left to contact them with. I have never been so frustrated in my entire life. All this just from trying to change an email address. Linda Stanfill McKee

    11/30/2015 08:44:46
    1. [DNA] Genetic Distance query
    2. Michael via
    3. I've had my and my cousins DNA results back. Now I have to admit that at this point I haven't got a clue what it all means. But one thing strikes me as odd. On my results his Genetic Distance is 0 On his results my Genetic Distance is 2 Could somebody explain please. Many thanks Michael

    11/30/2015 11:49:06
    1. Re: [DNA] Genetic Distance query
    2. Rebekah Adele Canada via
    3. Hello, What type of test is this? Y-DNA STR, BIG Y, or mtDNA? --- Regards, Rebekah A. Canada "And they wonder why the maples Can't be happy in their shade." Trees (Neil Peart from Rush) On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 12:49 PM, Michael via <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > I've had my and my cousins DNA results back. > > Now I have to admit that at this point I haven't got a clue what it all > means. But one thing strikes me as odd. > > On my results his Genetic Distance is 0 > On his results my Genetic Distance is 2 > > Could somebody explain please. > > Many thanks > > Michael > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    11/30/2015 06:39:10
    1. Re: [DNA] Nomenclature
    2. Wjhonson via
    3. How could your full relative have half-descended descendants? -----Original Message----- From: Michael Fisher <m.j.fisher@btinternet.com> To: Wjhonson <wjhonson@aol.com>; genealogy-dna <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sat, Nov 28, 2015 9:47 am Subject: Re: [DNA] Nomenclature In that case the first part is half followed the by the second great nephew ? If it was your full sister and her descendants half descendant ? Mike On 28/11/2015 17:11, Wjhonson via wrote: > It was an odd case where I was thinking that my half-sister was going to take the test, and she did the test of her own *grandson* > > Not as much help for *ME* as it would be if she did the test. > But I suppose it confirms four generations in one swipe > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    11/30/2015 06:37:58
    1. Re: [DNA] 23andme members removing permission to use medical data
    2. Franklin Genetics via
    3. Ditto.I'm holding off until after the first of the year at least...and I too manage MANY accounts at 23 and have only done health info on a couple - sat down with family who answered questions for that part. 99% I have skipped the health info and opted out. On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 9:24 AM, G. Magoon via <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Personally, I'm adopting a wait-and-see approach. My understanding is that > the changes will take time to become effective, with the website updates > rolling out over the coming months. There are both positive and negative > aspects to the changes, and until now, we have only experienced the > negative changes (with the removal of COA, etc. around Nov. 11th). > >From my perspective, the 23andMe management and R&D team have historically > been a great aid and catalyst for the field. In particular, 23andMe has > been pioneering with their approach to relative finding with these > autosomal results, with an approach that was eventually adopted by other > companies. They also will be continuing to offer triangulation capabilities > not available at any other vendor and the forthcoming group messaging > system should be a great boon to those capabilities. > But I'm also glad that many in the community, including yourself and the > ancestry / genetic genealogy ambassadors like Shannon, are making their > views known and providing feedback to the 23andMe management. > > Greg > > On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 4:40 AM, McKee via <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> > wrote: > > > Dear List, > > > > The apparent debacle of the new experience at 23andme has created an > early > > movement of 23andme members removing permission to use their test results > > for 23andme's medical research plans. > > > > What thoughts from this List as to any meaning this removal of permission > > might have to 23andme management? > > > > Will this help the membership in general to regain the usefulness of the > > genetic genealogy side of 23andme? > > > > > > This genealogy-dna list membership has been very quiet about the entire > > 23andme situation and I am wondering why collectively this list is not > > interested in the plight of those members at 23andme who are apparently > > powerless and are not represented by any strong voices in the usual > > community leadership. The forums and message boards in general seem > to > > be giving little commentary to what 23andme is doing to the genetic > > genealogy side of their membership. > > > > It is a surprise to me to witness this lack of interest and leadership by > > this forum. > > > > Of course, the genetic genealogy trail is ground breaking so perhaps this > > just another crevasse of big business using customers in whatever willy > > nilly manner desired to achieve their avarice but I would be very > > interested to see some commentary as to what is going on at 23andme. > > > > Linda McKee > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Lisa R Franklin RN,BSN Admin, Franklin Y DNA Project http://trackingyourroots.com/FranklinGenetics/ FranklinGenetics@gmail.com http://trackingyourroots.com/DNA (How To presentation (23andme), tips, & helps. *2**3**&**m**e**: **The World's Largest database & coincidentally the ONLY one with all the tools you need for genealogy and DNA!--* http://refer.23andme.com/v2/share/6158544791499756901/4672616e6b6c696e47656e657469637340676d61696c2e636f6d BEST GENETIC GENEALOGY BOOK! http://www.amazon.com/Genetic-Genealogy-Emily-D-Aulicino-ebook/dp/B00HJJWBU2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1391174801&sr=8-1&keywords=Genetic+Genealogy

    11/30/2015 05:45:33
    1. [DNA] New FTDNA customer mtDNA sequences on GenBank (25-NOV-2015)
    2. Ian Logan via
    3. List 16 new mtDNA sequences from FTDNA customers who have chosen to make their own submissions to the GenBank database. The sequences belong to Haplogroups: H-G16192A, H1a7, H1c1, H3af, H5a1j, H6a1b3a, H7, H10e1, H16, I1a1a, I1c1a, I2a1, K1c1b, U5a1, W1-T119C, W1c1 As usual I have added the sequences to my 'Checker' program to ensure accuracy of transcription. Ian ----------------- KT981895(Germany) FTDNA Haplogroup H3af 25-NOV-2015 C198T A263G 315.1C A750G A1438G A4769G T6776C A8470G A8860G T14180C A15326G G16129A T16519C KT981896 FTDNA Haplogroup H5a1j 25-NOV-2015 A263G 309.1C 315.1C C456T C522- A523- T593C A750G A1438G T4336C A4769G A8860G A15326G C15833T T16209C T16304C T16519C KT981923 FTDNA Haplogroup H16 25-NOV-2015 A263G 315.1C A750G A1438G A4769G A8860G C10394T A15326G A16183- T16189C 16193.1C T16519C KT984276 FTDNA Haplogroup H7 25-NOV-2015 T131C A263G 315.1C A750G A1438G A2581G A4769G A4793G G8251A A8860G A9629G C12603T A15326G T16519C KT984277 FTDNA Haplogroup H6a1b3a 25-NOV-2015 T204C T239C A263G 309.1C 309.2C 315.1C A750G A1438G G3915A A4727G A4769G A8860G G9380A T10463C G10589A T13768C A15326G C16193T A16219G T16362C A16482G KT989367(Ireland) FTDNA Haplogroup I2a1 25-NOV-2015 A73G T152C T199C T204C G207A T250C A263G 309.1C 315.1C A533G 573.1C 573.2C A750G A1438G G1719A A2706G T3398C A4529T A4769G C7028T G8251A A8860G T10034C T10238C A10398G A11065G G11719A T12134C G12501A C12705T A13780G G14226A C14766T G15043A A15326G A15758G A15924G G16129A G16145A C16223T G16391A T16519C KT997962(Poland) FTDNA Haplogroup I1a1a 25-NOV-2015 A73G T199C G203A T204C T250C A263G 309.1C 315.1C 455.1T C481T 573.1C 573.2C A750G A1438G G1719A A2706G A3447G C3513T C3990T C4033A A4529T A4769G G6734A C7028T G8251A G8616T A8860G G9053A G9947A T10034C T10238C A10398G T10915C G11719A G12501A C12705T A13780G C14766T G15043A A15326G A15924G G16129A T16172C C16223T T16311C G16391A T16519C KT997963 FTDNA Haplogroup H-G16192A 25-NOV-2015 G185A A189G A263G 309.1C 309.2C 315.1C G709A A750G A1438G A4769G G8334A A8860G A9980G T11854C A13269G G14040A A15326G C15381T G16129A A16183- T16189C 16193.1C T16519C KU052787(Lithuania) FTDNA Haplogroup I1c1a 25-NOV-2015 A73G T199C T204C T250C A263G 309.1C 315.1C 455.1T 573.1C 573.2C A750G A1438G G1719A A2706G A4529T A4769G G6267A A6359G G6734A C7028T G8251A G8573A A8860G T9386C G9966A T10034C T10238C A10398G G11719A G12501A C12705T A13780G C14766T G15043A A15326G A15924G G16129A C16223T C16264T C16270T T16311C G16319A T16362C G16390A G16391A T16519C KU057167(NOrway) FTDNA Haplogroup U5a1 25-NOV-2015 A73G A263G 315.1C A750G A1438G A2706G T3197C A4769G C4796T C7028T A8860G G9477A A11467G G11719A C12103A A12308G G12372A T13617C C14003T C14766T A14793G A14893G T14971C A15218G A15326G C16192T C16256T C16270T A16399G KU057168 FTDNA Haplogroup H10e1 25-NOV-2015 A263G 315.1C A750G 960.1C A1438G A4769G A8860G T13830C T14470A A15326G T16093Y T16362C T16519C KU159394 FTDNA Haplogroup K1c1b 25-NOV-2015 A73G T146C T152C A263G 315.1C C498- A750G T1189C A1438G A1811G A2706G A3480G A4769G C7028T A8860G G9055A A9093G T9698C A10398G A10550G T11299C G11377A A11467G G11719A C11728T A12308G G12372A C14167T C14766T T14798C A15326G T15900C A15936T T16224C T16311C T16519C KU159417 FTDNA Haplogroup W1-T119C 25-NOV-2015 A73G G103R G118C T119C T152C A189G T195C C198T T204C G207A A263G 315.1C G709A A750G T1243C A1438G A2706G A3505G A4769G G5046A G5460A C7028T C7864T G8251A A8860G G8994A C11674T G11719A A11947G T12414C C12705T C14766T A15326G G15884C C16223T C16278T C16292T C16295Y T16519C KU159418(Poland) FTDNA Haplogroup H1a7 25-NOV-2015 A73G A263G 309.1C 315.1C A750G A1438G G3010A A4769G A5747G A8860G C9593T A13933G G15314A A15326G A16162G A16220C T16519C KU159420(British) FTDNA Haplogroup W1c1 25-NOV-2015 A73G T119C A189G T195C T204C G207A A214R A263G 315.1C G709A A750G T1243C A1438G A2706G A3505G A4769G G5046A G5460A C7028T C7864T A8170G G8251A A8860G G8994A T11204C C11674T G11719A A11947G T12414C A12648G C12705T A13611G A14148G C14766T A15326G G15884C C16184T C16223T C16292T T16519C KU159430 FTDNA Haplogroup H1c1 25-NOV-2015 A263G 315.1C T477C A750G A1438G G3010A A4769G A8860G A9150G A15326G C16167Y T16263C T16519C

    11/30/2015 03:37:48
    1. Re: [DNA] ySearch "Contact this user"
    2. AJ Marsh via
    3. Greg, I had 2 failed attempts yesterday to send an email to a YSearch user. They also appear in a DNA project with a low kit number, I wondered if their email address might have changed since they entered information on YSearch, causing the failed contact attempt. I don't understand computers, and computers don't understand me. I don't know what various error messages mean. As to work arounds, if I can't contact someone via YSearch, I put together all the known information about the person from YSearch, FTDNA Projects etc, and see if I can find out any more information from Rootsweb trees, phone directories, Facebook, surname message boards, googling, etc. I do often have success from these alternative directions. As I know the marker scores for the missing YSearch users, I have a look through 3 projects I administer for any participants who are 12 marker exact matches, and if I find one, I am able to look for their matches in the FTDNA customer database, and if the missing person turns up as a FTDNA customer database match, then sometimes that gives me a means of directly contacting them. If the missing person is listed in a surname or geographic or haplogroup project, sometimes I have emailed the project administrator, and appealed to their good nature, and asked if they would forward on a message to them. I know project administrators are busy people, so I always try easy alternatives before contacting them, I always look at a failed attempt to contact someone via YSearch as a challenge! It is more fun trying to find an alternative way to contact someone or their family, than doing crossword puzzles. As long as I am trying to find alternative means, I don't have time to feel frustrated. I use my iPad a lot, and many FTDNA web site functions don't work on iPads. Just try ordering a test, or opening a FTDNA sale coupon by an iPad, and you will learn the definition of "frustrating". If I have a failure at interacting with FTDNA systems from my iPad, I usually climb my stairs, blow the dust off of my desk top computer, and have another try. FTDNA should have a large public health warning on the top of all of their web pages stating that using iPads to interact with FTDNA web sites may cause damage to a persons mental health. Some functions do work on iPads, so when individual features don't work on iPads, you do not always immediately realise that the cause of the problem is FTDNA incompatibility with iPads. John. Sent from my iPad > On 29/11/2015, at 8:55 am, G. Magoon via <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > It has been awhile since I've used ySearch, but I've just noticed that when > I try to send a message using "Contact this user", I am getting "500 - > Internal server error". Have others noticed this, and if so, do you know if > there are any workarounds? Thanks in advance, > Greg > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    11/29/2015 04:27:49
    1. Re: [DNA] ySearch "Contact this user"
    2. I tried just now and it worked fine. Doug McDonald. ________________________________________ From: genealogy-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com [genealogy-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com] on behalf of AJ Marsh via [genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com] Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 4:27 PM To: G. Magoon; genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DNA] ySearch "Contact this user" Greg, I had 2 failed attempts yesterday to send an email to a YSearch user.

    11/28/2015 04:20:52
    1. Re: [DNA] Nomenclature
    2. Michael Fisher via
    3. In that case the first part is half followed the by the second great nephew ? If it was your full sister and her descendants half descendant ? Mike On 28/11/2015 17:11, Wjhonson via wrote: > It was an odd case where I was thinking that my half-sister was going to take the test, and she did the test of her own *grandson* > > Not as much help for *ME* as it would be if she did the test. > But I suppose it confirms four generations in one swipe > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    11/28/2015 10:47:08
    1. Re: [DNA] Nomenclature
    2. Michael Fisher via
    3. It depends where the half occurs ? Mike On 28/11/2015 16:47, Wjhonson via wrote: > Which is correct? > > Half-Great-Nephew or > Great-Half-Nephew? > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    11/28/2015 10:00:21
    1. [DNA] ySearch "Contact this user"
    2. G. Magoon via
    3. It has been awhile since I've used ySearch, but I've just noticed that when I try to send a message using "Contact this user", I am getting "500 - Internal server error". Have others noticed this, and if so, do you know if there are any workarounds? Thanks in advance, Greg

    11/28/2015 07:55:03
    1. Re: [DNA] Nomenclature
    2. Loretta Layman via
    3. My mother had a half sister whom I called, tongue-in-cheek, my half-great aunt. Sorry that's not at all definitive, but I could resist. Loretta -----Original Message----- From: genealogy-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:genealogy-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Wjhonson via Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 11:47 AM To: GENEALOGY-DNA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [DNA] Nomenclature Which is correct? Half-Great-Nephew or Great-Half-Nephew? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    11/28/2015 05:12:49