Is the approach different for segments less than 7cm when the relationship (for example 4th cousin once removed or 5th cousin once removed) and common ancestors are already known? Lindsey
In Pakistan, 80% of the population is married to their first cousin. How does that affect their DNA? Sam Sloan On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Jim Bartlett via < genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > I just published a blogpost about endogamy - shared DNA > at http://segmentology.org/2015/12/02/endogamy-i/ > The bottom line is that endogamy only affects the shared DNA when you > and/or your Match have your Common Ancestor in you Tree(s) more than > once. > For each time the Common Ancestor is repeated in a Tree, the nominal > shared DNA is multiplied by that factor: E3 is 3 CAs in a Tree and the > nominal total shared DNA will be multiplied by 3. > In general endogamy does not increase the size of shared segments, just > the total amount. > In general, we don't have close endogamy, it's usually back in our > ancestry somewhere. The multiplying effect of endogamy is offset by the > small amounts of shared DNA with distant cousins. > However, between endogamy and wide tails on cM distribution curves, we > get enough shared DNA so that most of our Matches appear to be in the > 6-8th cousinship range. > > > Jim Bartlett www.segmentology.org > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Hi Margo Do they have online trees of all ancestor lines going back to a time where the match may have occurred? How would a DNA browser help if there is no records of the matches ancestry. I have " I have more ancestor matches than on or two!" on FTDNA and GEDMatch with no ancestor trees and don't respond to my contacts and if they do they have only researched limited lines. Mike. On 02/12/2015 15:11, Margo Lurvey via wrote: > I have found several trees on Ancestry DNA where I have more ancestor matches than on or two! I have absolutely no idea where my DNA Matches this person! We definitely need a CM browser on Ancestry!! >
I have found several trees on Ancestry DNA where I have more ancestor matches than on or two! I have absolutely no idea where my DNA Matches this person! We definitely need a CM browser on Ancestry!! ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Andreas West via <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> To: Eric S Johnson <crates@oneotaslopes.org>, genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DNA] counting databases Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2015 13:27:42 +0700 Besides the point that you might be connected through another branch you forget that you might not be connected at all. The chances are pretty good obviously if you find a common ancestor in a tree but it might still be an IBS segment and/or a NPE along the way. That's what I hate about Ancestry, not giving us proper tools as this could easily be sorted out with a triangulation tool. As they have more trees per match then anyone else it would give them the edge over their competition. Andreas On 2 Dec 2015, at 07:46, Eric S Johnson via <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> I've not and wont test at ancestry. > > > > Iâve found AncestryDNA testing rewarding for a particular reason: Ancestryâs ability to automatically compare trees between me and someone with whom I share DNA. Then, even if my âDNA cousinâ doesnât respond, still I can go into my tree and add in the path from our (alleged) common ancestor down to the DNA cousin ⦠and because I did that, Ancestryâs auto-comparison between me and thousands of âDNA cousinsâ finds another tree with which I share a common ancestor ⦠etc. > > > > Of course thereâs no guarantee the person whoâs in both our trees is the source of our shared DNA. But itâs a way to expand my tree âoutâ toward people with whom thereâs at least a circumstantial connection. With enough of this, patterns become visibleâbasically, âcross-platform DNA circlesâ (via triangulation). > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ____________________________________________________________ 4 Common Foods 'Destroying' Your Digestive Health ... Hattaka K et al, "Effect of long term consumption of probiotic milk on ... http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/565f0a51e47e0a514727st02duc
I just published a blogpost about endogamy - shared DNA at http://segmentology.org/2015/12/02/endogamy-i/ The bottom line is that endogamy only affects the shared DNA when you and/or your Match have your Common Ancestor in you Tree(s) more than once. For each time the Common Ancestor is repeated in a Tree, the nominal shared DNA is multiplied by that factor: E3 is 3 CAs in a Tree and the nominal total shared DNA will be multiplied by 3. In general endogamy does not increase the size of shared segments, just the total amount. In general, we don't have close endogamy, it's usually back in our ancestry somewhere. The multiplying effect of endogamy is offset by the small amounts of shared DNA with distant cousins. However, between endogamy and wide tails on cM distribution curves, we get enough shared DNA so that most of our Matches appear to be in the 6-8th cousinship range. Jim Bartlett www.segmentology.org
Hello Mike, > Last Saturday in the UK I took up both the AncestryDNA & FTDNA Family Finder (black Friday) discount offers (same price with UK postage) My AncestryDNA kit arrived today, I will let you know when the FTDNA > Family Finder kit arrives. If you are in the UK my expectation (and experience) is that Ancestry will be quicker (they do their testing in Ireland whilst FTDNA are based in Houston, Texas) but once the tests are done the resources available to you are different and potentially each is useful in its own right. Regards Peter
Hi Last Saturday in the UK I took up both the AncestryDNA & FTDNA Family Finder (black Friday) discount offers (same price with UK postage) My AncestryDNA kit arrived today, I will let you know when the FTDNA Family Finder kit arrives. Mike
Besides the point that you might be connected through another branch you forget that you might not be connected at all. The chances are pretty good obviously if you find a common ancestor in a tree but it might still be an IBS segment and/or a NPE along the way. That's what I hate about Ancestry, not giving us proper tools as this could easily be sorted out with a triangulation tool. As they have more trees per match then anyone else it would give them the edge over their competition. Andreas On 2 Dec 2015, at 07:46, Eric S Johnson via <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> I've not and wont test at ancestry. > > > > I’ve found AncestryDNA testing rewarding for a particular reason: Ancestry’s ability to automatically compare trees between me and someone with whom I share DNA. Then, even if my “DNA cousin” doesn’t respond, still I can go into my tree and add in the path from our (alleged) common ancestor down to the DNA cousin … and because I did that, Ancestry’s auto-comparison between me and thousands of “DNA cousins” finds another tree with which I share a common ancestor … etc. > > > > Of course there’s no guarantee the person who’s in both our trees is the source of our shared DNA. But it’s a way to expand my tree “out” toward people with whom there’s at least a circumstantial connection. With enough of this, patterns become visible—basically, “cross-platform DNA circles” (via triangulation). > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi All I tend to agree with Eric S Johnson I live in the UK & have been researching my family tree since the late 1980's, all ancestor lines and all descendant lines. But with a lot of common surnames have not been able to find out who the descendants, particularly female descendants married. Late 2014 I started down the DNA path, having FTDNA Y-DNA 67 & mtDNA test. Having found no matches that made any sense AncestryDNA came up with an introductory offer in the UK. I asked on this list if it was worth doing and some people said it was rubbish but some explained it was an atDNA test which I had never heard of and also how you could upload the "raw data" to FTDNA for a small fee and GEDMatch for free. I did all that and they all came up with matches but I have still, half a year later, not found a new march with a common ancestor on Family Finder or GEDMatch. (I have proved some AncestryDNA matches with people prepared to use GEDMatch) The matches I have are all through AncestryDNA, and they track on paper, and are cousins that are descendants of my ancestors who moved to other parts of the UK or left for foreign parts (USA, Canada, Australia & New Zealand so far) It has revitalised my family research and I am still adding paper cousins on Ancestry in the hope of even more "shared matches" I check all the links myself and have had to suggest corrections to a number of my "cousins" online Ancestry Trees. But AncestryDNA has found the primary paper connection. Mike Fisher in Droitwich
Article is cute but fails to make the connection to “aliens”, as in from another world or another planet. The possibility exists, however, that WE are all aliens…. if living organisms on earth was initiated by bombardment of life producing material carried in from outer space. Just think of it. We might be the aliens. Bob Cushman cushmandna@aol.com
The technical paper is here: http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v524/n7564/pdf/nature14668.pdf Marianne Manley Granoff Albuquerque, NM At 08:10 AM 12/2/2015 +0000, you wrote: >Marianne Lovely story - but nothing really to >back it up. For example the mtDNA is 'as >expected' for a earth-animal. See perhaps: >Mitochondrial DNA. 2015 Nov 5:1-2. "The complete >mitochondrial genome of Octopus bimaculatus >Verrill, 1883 from the Gulf of California" >DomÃnguez-Contreras JF, et al. Abstract The >complete mitochondrial genome of Octopus >bimaculatus is 16 085âbp in length and >includes 13 protein-codes genes, 2 ribosomal RNA >genes, 22 transfers RNA genes, and a control >region. The composition of genome is A (40.9%), >T (34.7%), C (16.9%), and G (7.5%). The control >region of O. bimaculatus contains a VNTR locus >not present in the genomes from other octopus >species. A phylogenetic analysis shows a closer >relationship between the mitogenomes from O. >bimaculatus and O. vulgaris. And the actual >mtDNA sequence for the Octopus bimaculatus can >be found on: >http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/nuccore/KT581981 >Sorry Ian -------------------- On 02/12/2015 >03:40, Marianne Granoff via wrote: > I thought >this was interesting. > > >http://www.irishexaminer.com/examviral/science-world/dont-freak-out-but-scientists-think-octopuses-might-be-aliens-after-dna-study-347880.html > > > Anyone want to comment? > > Marianne Manley >Granoff > Albuquerque, NM >------------------------------- To unsubscribe >from the list, please send an email to >GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word >'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >----- >No virus found in this message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 2016.0.7227 / Virus Database: 4477/11099 - Release Date: 12/01/15
> I've not and wont test at ancestry. I’ve found AncestryDNA testing rewarding for a particular reason: Ancestry’s ability to automatically compare trees between me and someone with whom I share DNA. Then, even if my “DNA cousin” doesn’t respond, still I can go into my tree and add in the path from our (alleged) common ancestor down to the DNA cousin … and because I did that, Ancestry’s auto-comparison between me and thousands of “DNA cousins” finds another tree with which I share a common ancestor … etc. Of course there’s no guarantee the person who’s in both our trees is the source of our shared DNA. But it’s a way to expand my tree “out” toward people with whom there’s at least a circumstantial connection. With enough of this, patterns become visible—basically, “cross-platform DNA circles” (via triangulation).
Mike I agree with you and Eric. AncestryDNA is a good tool as long as the Match uploads to FTDNA and GEDmatch. A high proportion of the GEDmatch uploads are from AncestryDNA tests. Ancestry has a high percentage of Trees, coupled with a high percentage of copied and garbage Trees. However, it's no worse than asking a Match at FTDNA or 23andMe about their ancestry - those Matches are also humans who have a wide variety of genealogy skills (from zero to expert). There are two points here: 1. Any Match's version of their ancestry can be anywhere on the quality/correctness scale. 2. Even if the Common Ancestors are rock solid, we still need to reach consensus with other Matches on the same segments to determine the correct CA for that segment. Jim - www.segmentology.org > On Dec 2, 2015, at 7:19 AM, Michael Fisher via <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Hi All > > I tend to agree with Eric S Johnson > > I live in the UK & have been researching my family tree since the late > 1980's, all ancestor lines and all descendant lines. > But with a lot of common surnames have not been able to find out who the > descendants, particularly female descendants married. > > Late 2014 I started down the DNA path, having FTDNA Y-DNA 67 & mtDNA > test. Having found no matches that made any sense AncestryDNA came up > with an introductory offer in the UK. I asked on this list if it was > worth doing and some people said it was rubbish but some explained it > was an atDNA test which I had never heard of and also how you could > upload the "raw data" to FTDNA for a small fee and GEDMatch for free. > > I did all that and they all came up with matches but I have still, half > a year later, not found a new march with a common ancestor on Family > Finder or GEDMatch. (I have proved some AncestryDNA matches with people > prepared to use GEDMatch) > > The matches I have are all through AncestryDNA, and they track on paper, > and are cousins that are descendants of my ancestors who moved to other > parts of the UK or left for foreign parts (USA, Canada, Australia & New > Zealand so far) > > It has revitalised my family research and I am still adding paper > cousins on Ancestry in the hope of even more "shared matches" > > I check all the links myself and have had to suggest corrections to a > number of my "cousins" online Ancestry Trees. > > But AncestryDNA has found the primary paper connection. > > Mike Fisher in Droitwich >
Marianne Lovely story - but nothing really to back it up. For example the mtDNA is 'as expected' for a earth-animal. See perhaps: Mitochondrial DNA. 2015 Nov 5:1-2. "The complete mitochondrial genome of Octopus bimaculatus Verrill, 1883 from the Gulf of California" Domínguez-Contreras JF, et al. Abstract The complete mitochondrial genome of Octopus bimaculatus is 16 085 bp in length and includes 13 protein-codes genes, 2 ribosomal RNA genes, 22 transfers RNA genes, and a control region. The composition of genome is A (40.9%), T (34.7%), C (16.9%), and G (7.5%). The control region of O. bimaculatus contains a VNTR locus not present in the genomes from other octopus species. A phylogenetic analysis shows a closer relationship between the mitogenomes from O. bimaculatus and O. vulgaris. And the actual mtDNA sequence for the Octopus bimaculatus can be found on: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/nuccore/KT581981 Sorry Ian -------------------- On 02/12/2015 03:40, Marianne Granoff via wrote: > I thought this was interesting. > > http://www.irishexaminer.com/examviral/science-world/dont-freak-out-but-scientists-think-octopuses-might-be-aliens-after-dna-study-347880.html > > Anyone want to comment? > > Marianne Manley Granoff > Albuquerque, NM
Try this: https://sites.google.com/site/wheatonsurname/beginners-guide-to-genetic-genealogy On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 7:43 AM, Louis Loccisano via < genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hi List, > > > > I am looking for a good website that can explain really basic DNA to a > beginner, including very basic stuff such as the fact that there are 4 > letters (chemicals) that make up our DNA, and that the alteration of one of > these "letters" is a mutation. I also want to explain basic Y DNA > testing > to this person. Any suggestions on a websites that would explain this > stuff would be appreciated. Thank you. > > > > > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
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My little contribution to the "how many matches" counting game: I've sent spit kits from each of the three PGSs to all of my kids' grandparents and one sibling each (and in one case, two siblings). When I go through them all and count up "everyone who shares more than 30 cM with us, collectively," I get (aggregated over these 27 exomes) . 160 "public" matches on 23andMe (of which >80% have "shared") 112 matches on AncestryDNA 36 matches on FTDNA. I find the chances of "solving" them (identifying a paper-trail genealogical relationship) is pretty decent for anything over 60 cM: of the 39 matches who meet this criterion (out of ~300 mentioned above (some of the matches are on more than one platform)), 23 are solved (mostly all 4th cousins or closer). Of the 16 remaining >60cM ones, the main problem is "non-responsive + private tree" rather than "we can't figure it out no matter how hard we try" (of which "adopted match" is a subset). Of the <60cM matches, my solve rate peters out quickly as of yet. I don't see the solve rate among these 39 >60cM "high matches" differing much between the three PGSs. Best, Eric
So much about 23andme being useless. Thanks for sharing those impressive stats, Eric! I just wish I would have any match over 30cM, let along 60cM Andreas > On 1 Dec 2015, at 20:48, Eric S Johnson via <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > My little contribution to the "how many matches" counting game: I've sent > spit kits from each of the three PGSs to all of my kids' grandparents and > one sibling each (and in one case, two siblings). When I go through them all > and count up "everyone who shares more than 30 cM with us, collectively," I > get (aggregated over these 27 exomes) . > > 160 "public" matches on 23andMe (of which >80% have "shared") > > 112 matches on AncestryDNA > > 36 matches on FTDNA. > > I find the chances of "solving" them (identifying a paper-trail genealogical > relationship) is pretty decent for anything over 60 cM: of the 39 matches > who meet this criterion (out of ~300 mentioned above (some of the matches > are on more than one platform)), 23 are solved (mostly all 4th cousins or > closer). Of the 16 remaining >60cM ones, the main problem is "non-responsive > + private tree" rather than "we can't figure it out no matter how hard we > try" (of which "adopted match" is a subset). Of the <60cM matches, my solve > rate peters out quickly as of yet. I don't see the solve rate among these 39 >> 60cM "high matches" differing much between the three PGSs. > > > > Best, > > Eric > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENEALOGY-DNA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I thought this was interesting. http://www.irishexaminer.com/examviral/science-world/dont-freak-out-but-scientists-think-octopuses-might-be-aliens-after-dna-study-347880.html Anyone want to comment? Marianne Manley Granoff Albuquerque, NM
I compared one of my matches and it says 0 in Half IBD and 0 Segments! If that is the case why is she showing as a match? ---------- Original Message ---------- From: max via <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> To: "Franklin Genetics" <franklingenetics@gmail.com>, genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com, "Ann Turner" <dnacousins@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [DNA] 23andme members removing permission to use medical data Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2015 10:47:04 -0700 The wrote me: Thank you for contacting the 23andMe Team. The functionality of Family Inheritance: Advanced is now located in the DNA View of DNA Relatives. You can use the DNA view of DNA Relatives to learn about the genetic relationship between yourself and your shared connections. To see the segments you have in common, select your name and your relative's name, then click Compare. You can locate the DNA view of DNA Relatives here: [1]https://you.23andme.com/tools/relatives/dna/ My profiles have also not changed yet so I cannot see this. -- Web sites I manage - Personal home page, After Hours Band (I play keyboards), Greater Houston Jewish Genealogical Society, Woodside Civic Club, Skala, Ukraine Shtetlink, Joniskelis, Lithuania Shtetlink, and pet volunteer project - Yizkor book project: [2]www.texsys.com/websites.html -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [DNA] 23andme members removing permission to use medical data From: Franklin Genetics via <[3]genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> Date: Tue, December 01, 2015 6:15 am To: Ann Turner <[4]dnacousins@gmail.com>, "[5]genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com" <[6]genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> Whew! That WILL be an improvement Ann--I was constantly posting under the wrong one depending on who I'd happened to click last--so confusing! LOL Glad that is going away! Are you hearing of many who are finding they don't have the Family Inheritance Advanced tool yet with the new transition? The 23andMe you tube vidoes they released pre switch show it being on the DNA Relatives page but as none of mine have transitioned yet (I'm sure I'm in group 4-complex accounts) I don't have a clue, just what I'm seeing and I'm not sure if the posters are folks who knew about the tool to start with. Thx! Lisa On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 5:57 AM, Ann Turner via <[7]genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Good to hear! Just in case others are wondering about the original > statement of one profile per e-mail address, that applies only to the new > community forums, where you can have only one community nickname per > account. I actually like that, since it will save myself from accidentally > posting under a different profile (like I used to do all the time in the > old forums). 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