It's not just you. Ann Turner On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 6:41 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I presume it is not just I; but to verify--has everyone else encountered > more than 12 hours of "Update in Progress" at 23&amp;Me?&nbsp; It's > annoying since I missed 1/2 of Tuesday and Wed morning because of surgery. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Don't overlook the importance of FTDNA's extensive Y-DNA and full mtDNA testing, unmatched by 23andMe or Ancestry. Doris On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 4:30 AM, Eric S Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > This new Wirecutter comparison of the atDNA-testing companies … > > > http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-dna-ancestry-testing-kit/ > > … says AncestryDNA’s database’s now (claimed to be) 5M, whereas 23andMe’ > s only 2M, and FTDNA’s 1.5M. > > Does this comport with what y’all think? > > > > 5M seems like “a lot,” but I do find a lot more new “DNA cousins” > popping in to my kits’ matchlists on AncestryDNA than on 23andMe, so, maybe > so … > > … although it “feels to me” (again based on new matches > popping in) like FTDNA’s much smaller than 23andMe … > > > > Best, > > Eric > > OpenPGP > <https://keyserver.pgp.com/vkd/DownloadKey.event?keyid=0xE0F58E0F1AF7E6F2> > : > 0x1AF7E6F2 ● Skype: oneota ● XMPP/OTR: [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> ● Silent Circle: +1 312 614-0159 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

FTDNA's number seems to include about 900,000 Y + mtDNA tests. Ann Turner On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 1:30 AM, Eric S Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > This new Wirecutter comparison of the atDNA-testing companies … > > > http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-dna-ancestry-testing-kit/ > > … says AncestryDNA’s database’s now (claimed to be) 5M, whereas 23andMe’ > s only 2M, and FTDNA’s 1.5M. > > Does this comport with what y’all think? > > > > 5M seems like “a lot,” but I do find a lot more new “DNA cousins” > popping in to my kits’ matchlists on AncestryDNA than on 23andMe, so, maybe > so … > > … although it “feels to me” (again based on new matches > popping in) like FTDNA’s much smaller than 23andMe … > > > > Best, > > Eric > > OpenPGP > <https://keyserver.pgp.com/vkd/DownloadKey.event?keyid=0xE0F58E0F1AF7E6F2> > : > 0x1AF7E6F2 ● Skype: oneota ● XMPP/OTR: [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> ● Silent Circle: +1 312 614-0159 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

If every living person were Autosomal-DNA-tested, would it be possible to confirm genealogical lines into the medieval period? That's the question.

Hi I found a 4th cousin 3 times removed (Brian) through a DNA match with Ancestry. This is through my paternal grandfather's maternal grandmother and her brother who is Brian's ancestor (hope that makes sense). When I looked at the shared ancestry of Brian we only share two matches who are closely related to him. Why did other matches I have on my paternal grandfather's side not show up as matches with Brian? Does this mean that I have my great great grandmother's DNA which I share with Brian but my other cousins on my grandfather's side do not have this DNA? Hope this question makes sense but it is something that is puzzling me. Many thanks Kerrie

Once a week I log in to my MyHeritage account and take a look at each of my nine senior/primary kits. For each, I just scan through the matches (leaving the default "sort by shared cM," even though it seems likely much of what MyHeritage identifies as (smaller) shared HIRs are either non-existent or IBS) up to the point where MyHeritage says "DNA Matches listed below are lower quality matches that should be viewed with skepticism" (this cutoff appears to be at "40 cM shared DNA"). Every time I reach out to someone for the first time, I put a note on the match using the note-making feature in the upper-right-hand corner of the match (in this matchlist); that way, when I make my weekly matchlist visit, I can scan through looking for the new ones to contact. When I find a new match to contact (one where the "note" corner tab is grey, indicating "no saved note"), I hold down the ctrl key on my keyboard (so that my clicks open new browser tabs) and mouse-click two of the match's buttons: "review match" and "contact." The new "pedigree view" of my match's MyHeritage tree is available under "review match," as is the new ICW list Lorna mentioned. (The "family view" (Ancestry's term) is accessible from the "review match" but it's so hard to read that I rarely visit it.) > -----Original Message----- > From: GENEALOGY-DNA [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Jim Bartlett > Sent: August 29, 2017 09.31 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [DNA] MyHeritage > > Lorna > > Thanks - how do we access the pedigree view?

Jim >>Trees of any size are difficult to scan for Common Ancestors).<< You probably know this, but some other readers may not. Admittedly it's not a quick scan, but at least if you "view match" MyHeritage shows you side by side the surnames you and they share with more detail, and gives you a pedigree view of their tree - if they have more than one person in it anyway And now also an ICW list with details on how each of you match the ICW - totals only of course, not segment data The pedigree view and chromosome browser were both promised at RootsTech in Feb. The pedigree view only just arrived recently, and they are still saying a cb is coming, so one day...... Don't think they've ever promised a download match list option, or a sort by most recent, although they are both on their request list from me - hope more of you also have requested both! I do find that I can sometimes pick up tree data from there that is missing on the other sites. Lorna Henderson http://LornaHen.com On 29/08/17 09:45, Jim Bartlett wrote: > Thanks, Tim, > > I've found a few "H" kits at GEDmatch; and I've recognized a few MH Matches that are also DNA Matches at 22andMe or FTDNA. But it's slim pickins. I'm getting some good genealogy info at MH; but virtually zero help on the genetic side. > At AncestryDNA, I press for upload to GEDmatch - I now have 468 AncestryDNA Matches linked to GEDmatch kits - and 200 of them have Common Ancestors. I have over 2,000 other "A" kits from GEDmatch in my spreadsheet (over 7.0cM), that I cannot link to AncestryDNA kits - I'm working hard on those because they often have valuable Hints, Trees, Circles or Shared Matches. So much data, so little time... > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 28, 2017, at 4:46 PM, Tim Janzen <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Dear Jim, >> I have been encouraging all of my family's matches who have tested >> only at MyHeritage to upload to GEDmatch so that I can see the matching >> segment data. MyHeritage has promised that they will be providing a >> chromosome browser, but that hasn't happened yet. We won't be able to put >> people who have tested only at MyHeritage into triangulated groups until >> MyHeritage provides a chromosome browser, people upload to GEDmatch or >> people test at 23andMe or Family Finder. >> Sincerely, >> Tim Janzen >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: GENEALOGY-DNA [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >> Jim Bartlett >> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 12:53 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [DNA] MyHeritage >> >> Speaking of MyHeritage - I DNA tested there and uploaded my robust Tree >> there. I have a list of DNA Matches (most with no or very small Trees; Trees >> of any size are difficult to scan for Common Ancestors). I have lists of >> many people who share one of my ancestors. Is there anything that links >> these? A DNA match with Common Ancestry; or people who share a Common >> Ancestor with some clue as to whether they DNA tested - and/or match. It's >> like needles in two different haystacks. Help? >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I haven't sent a spit kit in to MyHeritage; all nine of my MyHeritage kits are copied there from other platforms' spit kits. So. It's pretty consistent, for me, that MyHeritage reports segments which none of the other four see. But, that's why I ask. Maybe MyHeritage is reporting to me small yet triangulated segments. (The math doesn't add up, but that's just my math; maybe I'm wrong.) In MyHeritage's early DNA days, I would get matches which literally didn't exist on any of the other platforms. Now, the other platforms agree there's a match, and usually the "largest HIR" corresponds--but the other platforms simply don't see anything else (whatever else MyHeritage is seeing). Sometimes MyHeritage reports only one HIR (thus agreeing with the other platforms). But often it reports 3, 4, 5, HIRs. Hmmm. Best, Eric > -----Original Message----- > From: GENEALOGY-DNA [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Andreas West > Sent: August 28, 2017 20.32 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [DNA] MyHeritage > > Hi Eric, > > Well, you have to look what is compared, in all fairness. > > If it's a v2 23andMe you compare with an Ancestry or ftdna test at Gedmatch > you won't get all matching segments due to the little overlapping markers. > > If MyHeritage compares two tests from their own testing chip then they > should indeed have no problem identifying correct segments. > > But you are not the first one reporting such fishy results from MyHeritage.

Jim, to see a match's pedigree chart at MyHeritage, go to your match list, find a match with a tree, click "Review Match," and scroll down. The pedigree chart will be near the end. This is MyHeritage's blog/announcement about it and other features they've added to the "Review Match" pages: https://blog.myheritage.com/2017/08/new-review-match-page-discover-how-you-are-related-to-your-dna-matches/ -Paula On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 7:31 PM, Jim Bartlett <[email protected]> wrote: > Lorna > > Thanks - how do we access the pedigree view? > > Jim > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Aug 28, 2017, at 6:12 PM, LornaMoa <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Jim > > >>Trees of any size are difficult to scan for Common Ancestors).<< > > > > You probably know this, but some other readers may not. > > > > Admittedly it's not a quick scan, but at least if you "view match" > MyHeritage shows you side by side the surnames you and they share with more > detail, and gives you a pedigree view of their tree - if they have more > than one person in it anyway > > And now also an ICW list with details on how each of you match the ICW - > totals only of course, not segment data > > > > > > The pedigree view and chromosome browser were both promised at RootsTech > in Feb. The pedigree view only just arrived recently, and they are still > saying a cb is coming, so one day...... > > Don't think they've ever promised a download match list option, or a > sort by most recent, although they are both on their request list from me - > hope more of you also have requested both! > > > > I do find that I can sometimes pick up tree data from there that is > missing on the other sites. > > > > Lorna Henderson > > http://LornaHen.com > > > >> On 29/08/17 09:45, Jim Bartlett wrote: > >> Thanks, Tim, > >> > >> I've found a few "H" kits at GEDmatch; and I've recognized a few MH > Matches that are also DNA Matches at 22andMe or FTDNA. But it's slim > pickins. I'm getting some good genealogy info at MH; but virtually zero > help on the genetic side. > >> At AncestryDNA, I press for upload to GEDmatch - I now have 468 > AncestryDNA Matches linked to GEDmatch kits - and 200 of them have Common > Ancestors. I have over 2,000 other "A" kits from GEDmatch in my spreadsheet > (over 7.0cM), that I cannot link to AncestryDNA kits - I'm working hard on > those because they often have valuable Hints, Trees, Circles or Shared > Matches. So much data, so little time... > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >>> On Aug 28, 2017, at 4:46 PM, Tim Janzen <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>> Dear Jim, > >>> I have been encouraging all of my family's matches who have tested > >>> only at MyHeritage to upload to GEDmatch so that I can see the matching > >>> segment data. MyHeritage has promised that they will be providing a > >>> chromosome browser, but that hasn't happened yet. We won't be able to > put > >>> people who have tested only at MyHeritage into triangulated groups > until > >>> MyHeritage provides a chromosome browser, people upload to GEDmatch or > >>> people test at 23andMe or Family Finder. > >>> Sincerely, > >>> Tim Janzen > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: GENEALOGY-DNA [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of > >>> Jim Bartlett > >>> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 12:53 PM > >>> To: [email protected] > >>> Subject: Re: [DNA] MyHeritage > >>> > >>> Speaking of MyHeritage - I DNA tested there and uploaded my robust Tree > >>> there. I have a list of DNA Matches (most with no or very small Trees; > Trees > >>> of any size are difficult to scan for Common Ancestors). I have lists > of > >>> many people who share one of my ancestors. Is there anything that links > >>> these? A DNA match with Common Ancestry; or people who share a Common > >>> Ancestor with some clue as to whether they DNA tested - and/or match. > It's > >>> like needles in two different haystacks. Help? > >>> > >>> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dear Kerrie, Ancestry.com only displays the matches who share DNA with people like Brian if they share more than 20 cMs. Your other relatives may not be sharing more than 20 cMs with Brian. A 4th cousin 3 times removed relationship is distant enough that the descendents on that ancestral line may not all share DNA with each other. I suggest you have Brian and your other relatives upload to GEDmatch where you can run the comparisons that you need to run. Sincerely, Tim Janzen -----Original Message----- From: GENEALOGY-DNA [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kerrie Alexander Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 8:37 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [DNA] Question on shared matches I found a 4th cousin 3 times removed (Brian) through a DNA match with Ancestry. This is through my paternal grandfather's maternal grandmother and her brother who is Brian's ancestor (hope that makes sense). When I looked at the shared ancestry of Brian we only share two matches who are closely related to him. Why did other matches I have on my paternal grandfather's side not show up as matches with Brian? Does this mean that I have my great great grandmother's DNA which I share with Brian but my other cousins on my grandfather's side do not have this DNA? Many thanks Kerrie

I get automatic weekly updates, one email for all my kits. I *think* I set it up with the drop-down list under my name: site settings, then "My preferences" with a check in the box for weekly updates. I just examine ones with over 1.0% sharing. Ann Turner On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 5:55 PM, Eric S Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > Once a week I log in to my MyHeritage account and take a look at each of my > nine senior/primary kits. >

Lorna Thanks - how do we access the pedigree view? Jim Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 28, 2017, at 6:12 PM, LornaMoa <[email protected]> wrote: > > Jim > >>Trees of any size are difficult to scan for Common Ancestors).<< > > You probably know this, but some other readers may not. > > Admittedly it's not a quick scan, but at least if you "view match" MyHeritage shows you side by side the surnames you and they share with more detail, and gives you a pedigree view of their tree - if they have more than one person in it anyway > And now also an ICW list with details on how each of you match the ICW - totals only of course, not segment data > > > The pedigree view and chromosome browser were both promised at RootsTech in Feb. The pedigree view only just arrived recently, and they are still saying a cb is coming, so one day...... > Don't think they've ever promised a download match list option, or a sort by most recent, although they are both on their request list from me - hope more of you also have requested both! > > I do find that I can sometimes pick up tree data from there that is missing on the other sites. > > Lorna Henderson > http://LornaHen.com > >> On 29/08/17 09:45, Jim Bartlett wrote: >> Thanks, Tim, >> >> I've found a few "H" kits at GEDmatch; and I've recognized a few MH Matches that are also DNA Matches at 22andMe or FTDNA. But it's slim pickins. I'm getting some good genealogy info at MH; but virtually zero help on the genetic side. >> At AncestryDNA, I press for upload to GEDmatch - I now have 468 AncestryDNA Matches linked to GEDmatch kits - and 200 of them have Common Ancestors. I have over 2,000 other "A" kits from GEDmatch in my spreadsheet (over 7.0cM), that I cannot link to AncestryDNA kits - I'm working hard on those because they often have valuable Hints, Trees, Circles or Shared Matches. So much data, so little time... >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Aug 28, 2017, at 4:46 PM, Tim Janzen <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Dear Jim, >>> I have been encouraging all of my family's matches who have tested >>> only at MyHeritage to upload to GEDmatch so that I can see the matching >>> segment data. MyHeritage has promised that they will be providing a >>> chromosome browser, but that hasn't happened yet. We won't be able to put >>> people who have tested only at MyHeritage into triangulated groups until >>> MyHeritage provides a chromosome browser, people upload to GEDmatch or >>> people test at 23andMe or Family Finder. >>> Sincerely, >>> Tim Janzen >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: GENEALOGY-DNA [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >>> Jim Bartlett >>> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 12:53 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [DNA] MyHeritage >>> >>> Speaking of MyHeritage - I DNA tested there and uploaded my robust Tree >>> there. I have a list of DNA Matches (most with no or very small Trees; Trees >>> of any size are difficult to scan for Common Ancestors). I have lists of >>> many people who share one of my ancestors. Is there anything that links >>> these? A DNA match with Common Ancestry; or people who share a Common >>> Ancestor with some clue as to whether they DNA tested - and/or match. It's >>> like needles in two different haystacks. Help? >>> >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Eric, Well, you have to look what is compared, in all fairness. If it's a v2 23andMe you compare with an Ancestry or ftdna test at Gedmatch you won't get all matching segments due to the little overlapping markers. If MyHeritage compares two tests from their own testing chip then they should indeed have no problem identifying correct segments. But you are not the first one reporting such fishy results from MyHeritage. Andreas > On 28 Aug 2017, at 15:35, Eric S Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > MyHeritage tells me a “DNA cousin” shares with me, say, 3 HIRs totaling 54 > cM, and it tells me the longest one is, say, 29 cM. > > > > I think “ooh, great! That’s a (moderately) substantive match!” > > > > But then this DNA cousin copies to GEDmatch, and the only HIR which shows up > at a >5cM threshold is the one, for 29 cM. Okay, I’m not going to discard > this match, but it’s not a 54cM/3HIR match. > > Does anyone know what formula/threshold/algorithm is being > used to come up with these “3 HIRs / 54 cM”? > > > > Yes, I know MyHeritage has had problems with false positives, but … this is > a little ridiculous … > > > > Best, > > Eric > > <https://keyserver.pgp.com/vkd/DownloadKey.event?keyid=0xE0F58E0F1AF7E6F2> > OpenPGP: 0x1AF7E6F2 ● Skype: oneota ● XMPP/OTR: > <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] ● Silent Circle: +1 > 312 614-0159 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks, Tim, I've found a few "H" kits at GEDmatch; and I've recognized a few MH Matches that are also DNA Matches at 22andMe or FTDNA. But it's slim pickins. I'm getting some good genealogy info at MH; but virtually zero help on the genetic side. At AncestryDNA, I press for upload to GEDmatch - I now have 468 AncestryDNA Matches linked to GEDmatch kits - and 200 of them have Common Ancestors. I have over 2,000 other "A" kits from GEDmatch in my spreadsheet (over 7.0cM), that I cannot link to AncestryDNA kits - I'm working hard on those because they often have valuable Hints, Trees, Circles or Shared Matches. So much data, so little time... Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 28, 2017, at 4:46 PM, Tim Janzen <[email protected]> wrote: > > Dear Jim, > I have been encouraging all of my family's matches who have tested > only at MyHeritage to upload to GEDmatch so that I can see the matching > segment data. MyHeritage has promised that they will be providing a > chromosome browser, but that hasn't happened yet. We won't be able to put > people who have tested only at MyHeritage into triangulated groups until > MyHeritage provides a chromosome browser, people upload to GEDmatch or > people test at 23andMe or Family Finder. > Sincerely, > Tim Janzen > > -----Original Message----- > From: GENEALOGY-DNA [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Jim Bartlett > Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 12:53 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [DNA] MyHeritage > > Speaking of MyHeritage - I DNA tested there and uploaded my robust Tree > there. I have a list of DNA Matches (most with no or very small Trees; Trees > of any size are difficult to scan for Common Ancestors). I have lists of > many people who share one of my ancestors. Is there anything that links > these? A DNA match with Common Ancestry; or people who share a Common > Ancestor with some clue as to whether they DNA tested - and/or match. It's > like needles in two different haystacks. Help? > >

MyHeritage tells me a “DNA cousin” shares with me, say, 3 HIRs totaling 54 cM, and it tells me the longest one is, say, 29 cM. I think “ooh, great! That’s a (moderately) substantive match!” But then this DNA cousin copies to GEDmatch, and the only HIR which shows up at a >5cM threshold is the one, for 29 cM. Okay, I’m not going to discard this match, but it’s not a 54cM/3HIR match. Does anyone know what formula/threshold/algorithm is being used to come up with these “3 HIRs / 54 cM”? Yes, I know MyHeritage has had problems with false positives, but … this is a little ridiculous … Best, Eric <https://keyserver.pgp.com/vkd/DownloadKey.event?keyid=0xE0F58E0F1AF7E6F2> OpenPGP: 0x1AF7E6F2 ● Skype: oneota ● XMPP/OTR: <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] ● Silent Circle: +1 312 614-0159

Speaking of MyHeritage - I DNA tested there and uploaded my robust Tree there. I have a list of DNA Matches (most with no or very small Trees; Trees of any size are difficult to scan for Common Ancestors). I have lists of many people who share one of my ancestors. Is there anything that links these? A DNA match with Common Ancestry; or people who share a Common Ancestor with some clue as to whether they DNA tested - and/or match. It's like needles in two different haystacks. Help? Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 28, 2017, at 9:42 AM, Jim Bartlett <[email protected]> wrote: > > Eric, > I think MH imputes data, and it appears their algorithm needs some tweaking. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 28, 2017, at 7:41 AM, Eric S Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I haven't sent a spit kit in to MyHeritage; all nine of my MyHeritage kits are copied there from other platforms' spit kits. >> So. >> >> It's pretty consistent, for me, that MyHeritage reports segments which none of the other four see. >> >> But, that's why I ask. >> Maybe MyHeritage is reporting to me small yet triangulated segments. (The math doesn't add up, but that's just my math; maybe I'm wrong.) >> >> In MyHeritage's early DNA days, I would get matches which literally didn't exist on any of the other platforms. >> Now, the other platforms agree there's a match, and usually the "largest HIR" corresponds--but the other platforms simply don't see anything else (whatever else MyHeritage is seeing). >> Sometimes MyHeritage reports only one HIR (thus agreeing with the other platforms). But often it reports 3, 4, 5, HIRs. >> Hmmm. >> >> Best, >> Eric

Dear Jim, I have been encouraging all of my family's matches who have tested only at MyHeritage to upload to GEDmatch so that I can see the matching segment data. MyHeritage has promised that they will be providing a chromosome browser, but that hasn't happened yet. We won't be able to put people who have tested only at MyHeritage into triangulated groups until MyHeritage provides a chromosome browser, people upload to GEDmatch or people test at 23andMe or Family Finder. Sincerely, Tim Janzen -----Original Message----- From: GENEALOGY-DNA [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim Bartlett Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 12:53 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DNA] MyHeritage Speaking of MyHeritage - I DNA tested there and uploaded my robust Tree there. I have a list of DNA Matches (most with no or very small Trees; Trees of any size are difficult to scan for Common Ancestors). I have lists of many people who share one of my ancestors. Is there anything that links these? A DNA match with Common Ancestry; or people who share a Common Ancestor with some clue as to whether they DNA tested - and/or match. It's like needles in two different haystacks. Help?

Eric, I think MH imputes data, and it appears their algorithm needs some tweaking. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 28, 2017, at 7:41 AM, Eric S Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > I haven't sent a spit kit in to MyHeritage; all nine of my MyHeritage kits are copied there from other platforms' spit kits. > So. > > It's pretty consistent, for me, that MyHeritage reports segments which none of the other four see. > > But, that's why I ask. > Maybe MyHeritage is reporting to me small yet triangulated segments. (The math doesn't add up, but that's just my math; maybe I'm wrong.) > > In MyHeritage's early DNA days, I would get matches which literally didn't exist on any of the other platforms. > Now, the other platforms agree there's a match, and usually the "largest HIR" corresponds--but the other platforms simply don't see anything else (whatever else MyHeritage is seeing). > Sometimes MyHeritage reports only one HIR (thus agreeing with the other platforms). But often it reports 3, 4, 5, HIRs. > Hmmm. > > Best, > Eric > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: GENEALOGY-DNA [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of Andreas West >> Sent: August 28, 2017 20.32 >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [DNA] MyHeritage >> >> Hi Eric, >> >> Well, you have to look what is compared, in all fairness. >> >> If it's a v2 23andMe you compare with an Ancestry or ftdna test at Gedmatch >> you won't get all matching segments due to the little overlapping markers. >> >> If MyHeritage compares two tests from their own testing chip then they >> should indeed have no problem identifying correct segments. >> >> But you are not the first one reporting such fishy results from MyHeritage. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is not my solution but I found it on the internet because I had the same problem. The credit goes to someone else but it worked for me. I highlighted the solution. Loin Date: May 2017 Location: Brisbane Posts: 13 For those of you unable to upload Ancestry raw dna data to FTDNA. The latest I got from FTDNA Customer Support asserted that "reads for specific SNPs are in the wrong locations in the files". This turns out to be rubbish. I imported into Excel a file that would upload and a file that would not. I then got Excel to identify differences between the files. The differences are NOT associated with SNP locations. The differences are purely related to the pre-amble text in the Ancestry raw dna data files. By changing the preamble text, the files will upload. The following preamble is from a file that will not upload: #AncestryDNA raw data download #This file was generated by AncestryDNA at: 05/15/2017 03:51:26 UTC #Data was collected using AncestryDNA array version: V1.0 #Data is formatted using AncestryDNA converter version: V1.0 #Below is a text version of your DNA file from Ancestry.com DNA, LLC. THIS #INFORMATION IS FOR YOUR PERSONAL USE AND IS INTENDED FOR GENEALOGICAL RESEARCH #ONLY. IT IS NOT INTENDED FOR MEDICAL OR HEALTH PURPOSES. THE EXPORTED DATA IS However, this text will upload: #AncestryDNA raw data download #This file was generated by AncestryDNA at: 05/28/2017 23:32:38 UTC #Data was collected using AncestryDNA array version: V2.0 #Data is formatted using AncestryDNA converter version: V1.0 #Below is a text version of your DNA file from Ancestry.com DNA, LLC. THIS #INFORMATION IS FOR YOUR PERSONAL USE AND IS INTENDED FOR GENEALOGICAL RESEARCH #ONLY. IT IS NOT INTENDED FOR MEDICAL, DIAGNOSTIC, OR HEALTH PURPOSES. THE EXPORTED DATA IS Ignoring the different times in line 2, the key changes are: Line 3: "V2.0" instead of "V1.0" Line beginning "#ONLY": add ", DIAGNOSTIC," When I changed the text as above, two Ancestry files that previously failed (many times) to upload, then uploaded at the first attempt. Heaven knows why the FTDNA upload converter concerns itself with the preamble. Clearly GEDMATCH does not because as I and others discovered our unaltered files would readily upload to GEDMATCH. And shame on you FTDNA to assert the problem was related to SNPs being in the wrong location. FTDNA: get your house in order! There is, of course, another issue related to why Ancestry changed the collection version and other text. Ancestry DNA extractions in Feb and 28 May had "V2.0" text, while extractions on 15 May had "V1.0". I am tackling Ancestry on that point. G ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Janzen" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2017 2:17 PM Subject: Re: [DNA] Uploading AncestryDNA results to ftDNA >I haven't heard any problems with people uploading AncestryDNA data from >the current chip. Uploading the zipped file should work ok. If there are >problems, I would open the raw data file and make sure that it looks >complete. The zipped file should be about 5.7 MB in size. > Tim Janzen > > -----Original Message----- > From: GENEALOGY-DNA [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > Of Brooks Family > Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2017 11:12 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [DNA] Uploading AncestryDNA results to ftDNA > > My (new!) cousin is trying to upload her AncestryDNA results to ftDNA, > and running into errors. Two questions: > > * Is ftDNA accepting AncestryDNA's results from its most current chip? > > * Does she upload the zipped or unzipped file? > > Really, I looked on ftDNA and DNAADOPTION.com. Not finding an answer to > the latter question. > > Thanks! > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You might consider the possibility that, if she downloaded in the last couple of days, the file may be corrupted. FTDNA is in Houston and hurricane conditions could be affecting communication. She might just try waiting a few days and downloading a new file. The file should be zipped when uploaded to Gedmatch. On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 2:12 PM, Brooks Family <[email protected]> wrote: > My (new!) cousin is trying to upload her AncestryDNA results to ftDNA, and > running into errors. Two questions: > > * Is ftDNA accepting AncestryDNA's results from its most current chip? > > * Does she upload the zipped or unzipped file? > > Really, I looked on ftDNA and DNAADOPTION.com. Not finding an answer to > the latter question. > > Thanks! > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message