Several NEW BigY results arrived at the Clan Donald today. Results are not encouraging. Inportant SNPs, new to their list, like S744, have appeared. But other ones, like YP275 or YP507, are not. And worse ... two of my named markers including CLD57 HAVE appeared ... CLD57 is not a SNP, or even an ordinary indel! No download button appeared (to me, a GAP admin). Previously the button was there, just did not work. Spiffy looking new tools are there ... but will they work correctly with the missing SNPs? Doug McDonald -----Original Message----- Dear All, Earlier today I received an e-mail from FTDNA that they will be moving from Build 37 to Build 38 for the BigY. This should lead to more accurate Y SNPs being reported for the BigY. The update will be rolled out on Oct. 10 and then BigY matches will be recalculated over the following 5 to 7 days. I wonder if they will be moving Family Finder SNPs to Build 38 eventually as well. I would welcome that. Sincerely, Tim Janzen ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

List 12 new mtDNA sequences have appeared on the GenBank database. The first sequence comes from Argentina and is in Haplogroup D4h3a5. Note the definer for this subgroup is presently the 'absence of C16301T'; But this is likely to be changed in the future to the 'presence of T9770C' which appears more appropriate. Also note '3108.1T' is probably spurious. The other 11 sequences all come from FTDNA customers who have chosen to make their own submissions to GenBank. These sequences belong to Haplogroups: H1b1b, H1e, H10e, I4a1, K2a5, L2a1a1, L3f1b-C16292T, T2b, T2b-T16362C (T2b16), U5b2a1b & X2b10a As usual I have added all the sequences to my 'Checker' program to ensure accuracy of transcription. Ian www.ianlogan.co.uk ----------------------- MF348241(Argentina) Motti Haplogroup D4h3a5 07-OCT-2017 A73G    T152C   A263G   T489C   A750G   A1438G  A2706G  G3010A 3108.1T  T3336C T3396C  T3644C  C4025T  A4769G  C4883T  T5048C  C5178A  G6285A C7028T  C8414T A8701G  A8860G  A8946G  A9299G  C9458T  T9540C  T9770C  A9821G A10398G C10400T T10873C G11719A G12528A C12705T G13135A C14668T C14766T T14783C G15043A G15301A A15326G A16051G C16223T A16241G C16301T T16342C T16362C MF997504 FTDNA Haplogroup L2a1a1 07-OCT-2017 A73G T146C T152C T195C A263G 309.1C 315.1C 523.1C 523.2A 523.3C 523.4A 523.5C 523.6A 523.7C 523.8A A750G G769A G1018A A1438G T2416C A2706G C2789T C3594T G3918A A4104G A4769G A5285G T6152C C7028T T7175C C7256T C7274T G7521A G7598A A7771G G8020A G8206A A8701G A8860G A9221G T9540C T10115C A10398G T10873C G11719A G11914A T11944C A12693G C12705T T13376Y G13590A C13650T A13803G A14566G C14766T A15244G G15301A A15326G C15391T T15629C T15784C C16223T C16278T C16290T C16294T A16309G T16368C G16390A T16519C MF997533 FTDNA Haplogroup L3f1b-C16292T 07-OCT-2017 A73G A189G A200G A263G 309.1C 315.1C A750G A1438G T1822C A2706G T3396C T4218C A4769G C5601T C7028T C7819A A8527G T8632C A8701G A8860G C8932T G9287A T9540C T9950C A10398G T10873C G11440A G11719A C12705T C14766T A14769G G15301A A15326G T15514C T15944- T16209C C16223T C16292T T16311C T16519C MG008493(Sweden) FTDNA Haplogroup T2b-T16362C 07-OCT-2017 A73G A263G 309.1C 315.1C G709A A750G G930A A1438G G1888A A2706G T4216C A4769G A4917G G5147A C7028T G7419R G8697A A8860G T10463C A11251G G11719A A11812G G13368A A14233G C14766T G14905A A15326G C15452A A15607G G15928A T16126C C16294T C16296T T16304C T16362C T16519C MG009576(Sweden) FTDNA Haplogroup K2a5 07-OCT-2017 A73G T146C T152C A263G 315.1C C324T A551G G709A A750G A1438G A1811G A2706G A3480G T4561C A4769G A6663G C7028T A8860G G9055A T9698C T9716C A10550G T11299C A11467G G11719A A12308G G12372A C14167T C14766T T14798C A15326G T16189C T16224C T16311C T16519C MG009577(English) FTDNA Haplogroup H10e 07-OCT-2017 A263G 309.1C 309.2C 315.1C A750G A1438G A4769G A8860G T14470A A15326G T16093Y C16221T T16519C MG011474(Sweden) FTDNA Haplogroup H1b1b 07-OCT-2017 A263G 309.1C 309.2C 315.1C C522- A523- A750G A1438G G3010A A3796G A4769G A8860G C13536T A15326G G16129A T16189C C16355T T16356C T16362C T16519C MG011475(Germany) FTDNA Haplogroup U5b2a1b 07-OCT-2017 A73G C150T T152C A263G 315.1C A750G A1438G C1721T A2706G T3197C A4732G A4769G T5918C C7028T A7768G A8860G G9477A A11467G G11719A A12308G G12372A T13617C A13637G T14182C G14323A C14766T A15326G T16189C T16325C T16362C MG011476(Sweden) FTDNA Haplogroup T2b 07-OCT-2017 A73G A263G 315.1C C522- A523- G709A A750G G930A A1438G G1888A A2706G T4216C A4769G A4917G G5147A C7028T G8697A A8860G T10463C A11251G G11719A A11812G G13368A A14233G C14766T G14905A A15326G C15452A A15607G G15928A T16126C C16294T C16296T T16304C T16519C MG011477(Sweden) FTDNA Haplogroup H1e 07-OCT-2017 A93G A263G 315.1C A750G A1438G G3010A A4769G G5460A G6150A A8860G A12358G A14233G A15326G T16519C MG015876 FTDNA Haplogroup X2b10a 07-OCT-2017 A73G T146C A153G T195C G225A T226C A263G 309.1C 315.1C A750G A1438G G1719A A2706G A4769G T6221C C6371T C7028T C8393T A8425G A8860G G11719A C12705T G13708A A13966G T14470C C14766T A15326G G15466A G15927A A16183- T16189C 16193.1C C16223T G16274A C16278T C16355T C16365T T16519C MG015877(Swedish) FTDNA Haplogroup I4a1 07-OCT-2017 A73G T199C T204C T250C A263G 315.1C 573.1C 573.2C 573.3C 573.4C A750G A1438G G1719A A2706G C3528T C4025T A4529T A4769G C7028T G8251A G8519A A8860G T10034C T10238C A10398G A10819G T11050C T11253C G11719A G12501A C12705T A13780G C14766T G15043A A15326G A15924G G16129A C16223T T16304C G16391A T16519C

Yes, while his timings might have been out, Dirk from Ancestry did confirm to me that the files are smaller. They also already have V2.0 in the header, so that isn’t the problem, although of course I appreciate the attempt to help! I am of course a little irritated but quite willing to accept that firms offering a free upload service or one at minimal cost to unlock all facilities may not be able to keep up with all the changes. However it should be flagged up more clearly that some raw data files are not compatible so that folks like me do not spend inordinate amounts of time trying to upload a file which, for the foreseeable future, is not in a format accepted by the firm. Sent from my iPhone > On 11 Oct 2017, at 03:36, Ann Turner <[email protected]> wrote: > > That worked for files downloaded from AncestryDNA during a certain time > frame, but this appears to be a new problem where the file size has > changed. > > Ann Turner > >> On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 5:42 PM, Kb <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> There is a work around on this. It is fairly simple, and I found it after >> I had the same problem. >> >> You need to edit the txt file in the zipped file, so unzip the file and >> load the AncestryDNA.txt file into a text editor-Notepad on Windows is is >> deal. >> >> You need to make edits to lines 3 and 4: >> >> #Data was collected using AncestryDNA array version: V1.0 >> # etc >> >> Change to V2.0 >> Save as txt file. >> Rezip with same file name >> It should load into FTDNA. >> >> Cheers >> Kevin Brewer >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There is a work around on this. It is fairly simple, and I found it after I had the same problem. You need to edit the txt file in the zipped file, so unzip the file and load the AncestryDNA.txt file into a text editor-Notepad on Windows is is deal. You need to make edits to lines 3 and 4: #Data was collected using AncestryDNA array version: V1.0 # etc Change to V2.0 Save as txt file. Rezip with same file name It should load into FTDNA. Cheers Kevin Brewer

Hi Ann, At your suggestion I had another look at the LiftOver function of Genome Browser, https://genome.ucsc.edu/cgi-bin/hgLiftOver and Yes, it works too, and is possibly simpler than my earlier method. Method:- 1.    Start with your list of hg19 SNP positions in any order and place in a spreadsheet starting at cell A1. 2.    Alongside, use the formula =CONCATENATE("chrY:",A1,"-",A1) and copy down the list of SNP positions. 3.    Copy this text list and paste into the input window in the Genome Browser, https://genome.ucsc.edu/cgi-bin/hgLiftOver 4.    Make sure the "Original Assembly" is set to hg19 and "New Assembly" is set to hg38 and press "Submit" 5.    Under 'Results' is a link "View Conversions', click this link. 6.    A file is downloaded to your computer named in the form:- "hglift_genome_70f0-d4f300.bed" 7.    Your results are returned in the same order as submitted in the format "chrY:xxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxx" 8.    Use the formula =ABS(RIGHT(A1,8) to return the hg38 position Hope this helps* * *Dennis Wright* On 10/10/2017 11:14 PM, Ann Turner wrote: > I received a note off-list reminding me about the LiftOver tool at the UCSC > Genome Browser website: > > https://genome.ucsc.edu/cgi-bin/hgLiftOver > > There has been some discussion on the mailing list for the ISOGG tree about > whether there are some "gotchas" in that method, though. Dennis, could you > review that method and see if it comes up with the same results? > > Ann Turner > > On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 4:06 AM, Ann Turner <[email protected]> wrote: > >> For step 3, do you mean that you (as a human being) are scanning the >> adjustment table and doing a copy-and-paste? It seems like there could be >> some formulas to automate that. >> >> Ann Turner >> >> On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 12:55 AM, Dennis Wright <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> For those that have a spreadsheet with a large number of SNPs presently >>> showing hg19 positions, you are probably wondering what is involved in >>> producing hg38 positions. Here is how I went about it. >>> >>> I have been able to organise my SNP positions with the help of the >>> mutation page produced by Alex Williamson, http://www.ytree.net/hg19tohg3 >>> 8.html. >>> >>> 1. I took the list of my 695 SNPs and pasted the hg19 positions into >>> column A of a new spreadsheet. >>> >>> 2. Copy this list into Column D >>> >>> 2. Sort Column D from smallest to largest >>> >>> 3. In column E insert the adjustment specified in Alex's listing. As >>> these are ranges, copying in the adjustments is quite quick, and this is >>> the worst part of the whole procedure. >>> >>> 4. Calculate the new position in column F with a formula that adds or >>> subtracts column E from column D as appropriate. >>> >>> 5. In column B, Cell B1, insert the formula =VLOOKUP(A1,D:F, 3,FALSE) >>> and copy this formula to the bottom of your list of positions. >>> >>> 6. Column B now holds the hg38 positions of your SNPs in the order of >>> your original list. Copy this Column, >>> >>> 7. 'Paste Special' choosing 'Values' to your original SNP listing >>> spreadsheet and job is done! >>> >>> I hope this helps others do their conversions (Thanks Alex) >>> >>> Kind regards all! >>> >>> *Dennis Wright* >>> Donnchadh Mac an tSaoir >>> Irish Type III R-L226 > FGC12290 >>> /"We are merely the present-day custodians of our Ancestors genes." >>> >>> >>> / >>> >>> On 10/10/2017 9:09 AM, McDonald, J Douglas wrote: >>> >>>> I got a reply to a question about this. Its pretty clear. >>>> >>>> It says: >>>> >>>> >>>> "Remapped vcf and BED files will be generated from the remapped BAM >>>> files, though it may take a few days after the re-run is complete for them >>>> to be available. >>>> >>>> A remapped downloadable BAM file will be available on request at some >>>> point after the re-run. We do not yet know when that will be. >>>> Those who have a hg19 BAM file will have to request a hg38 BAM file. We >>>> won't automatically replace them. " >>>> >>>> That means that all the raw data, if you re-download all of it, will be >>>> coherent. This is very good news >>>> if its accurate. >>>> >>>> Doug McDonald >>>> ________________________________________ >>>> From: GENEALOGY-DNA >>>> Dear All, >>>> >>>> Earlier today I received an e-mail from FTDNA that they will be moving >>>> from >>>> Build 37 to Build 38 for the BigY. >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Maybe there is an ‘if-then’ formula for that step, however it took perhaps five minutes for my list of nearly 700 SNPs to read the table and enter the adjustments into the spreadsheet. Dennis Wright Irish Type III > On 10 Oct 2017, at 10:06 pm, Ann Turner <[email protected]> wrote: > > For step 3, do you mean that you (as a human being) are scanning the > adjustment table and doing a copy-and-paste? It seems like there could be > some formulas to automate that. > > Ann Turner > > On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 12:55 AM, Dennis Wright <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> For those that have a spreadsheet with a large number of SNPs presently >> showing hg19 positions, you are probably wondering what is involved in >> producing hg38 positions. Here is how I went about it. >> >> I have been able to organise my SNP positions with the help of the >> mutation page produced by Alex Williamson, http://www.ytree.net/hg19tohg3 >> 8.html. >> >> 1. I took the list of my 695 SNPs and pasted the hg19 positions into >> column A of a new spreadsheet. >> >> 2. Copy this list into Column D >> >> 2. Sort Column D from smallest to largest >> >> 3. In column E insert the adjustment specified in Alex's listing. As >> these are ranges, copying in the adjustments is quite quick, and this is >> the worst part of the whole procedure. >> >> 4. Calculate the new position in column F with a formula that adds or >> subtracts column E from column D as appropriate. >> >> 5. In column B, Cell B1, insert the formula =VLOOKUP(A1,D:F, 3,FALSE) >> and copy this formula to the bottom of your list of positions. >> >> 6. Column B now holds the hg38 positions of your SNPs in the order of >> your original list. Copy this Column, >> >> 7. 'Paste Special' choosing 'Values' to your original SNP listing >> spreadsheet and job is done! >> >> I hope this helps others do their conversions (Thanks Alex) >> >> Kind regards all! >> >> *Dennis Wright* >> Donnchadh Mac an tSaoir >> Irish Type III R-L226 > FGC12290 >> /"We are merely the present-day custodians of our Ancestors genes." >> >> >> / >> >>> On 10/10/2017 9:09 AM, McDonald, J Douglas wrote: >>> >>> I got a reply to a question about this. Its pretty clear. >>> >>> It says: >>> >>> >>> "Remapped vcf and BED files will be generated from the remapped BAM >>> files, though it may take a few days after the re-run is complete for them >>> to be available. >>> >>> A remapped downloadable BAM file will be available on request at some >>> point after the re-run. We do not yet know when that will be. >>> Those who have a hg19 BAM file will have to request a hg38 BAM file. We >>> won't automatically replace them. " >>> >>> That means that all the raw data, if you re-download all of it, will be >>> coherent. This is very good news >>> if its accurate. >>> >>> Doug McDonald >>> ________________________________________ >>> From: GENEALOGY-DNA >>> Dear All, >>> >>> Earlier today I received an e-mail from FTDNA that they will be moving >>> from >>> Build 37 to Build 38 for the BigY. >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for all your responses. I have just come off a live chat with Dirk on Ancestry. He says the change to the raw data files was announced on 5/12/2016. http://ancstry.me/2wMAsLO "As far as what we're told the download is the same. I have gotten other cases of other members having the same problem you are having ... Okay, I'm [now] being told that there was a change made to the markers that we test for ... It is due to certain snps being removed as they don't pertain to what we are testing for... Not necessarily a fault, but that there have been changes made and we can't determine what they [FTDNA] do on their end ... Yes, as far as I have been told the kits tested since the update described in the blog will be smaller as snps were refined so there will be less text or lines of data." It is FTDNA which says it accepts Ancestry raw data, so it does look as if the ball is in FTDNA's court. As my file uploaded ok on Gedmatch and My Heritage, there does seem to be a strong possibility it's about FTDNA not accepting 17,184 kb smaller Ancestry files. However there does remain a question mark whether there the two different types of raw data were both being generated after December 5 2016 or just one. However with FTDNA saying that it accepts Ancestry raw data files and not specifying which, it's still to do with FTDNA rather Ancestry. So at the moment I'm no further, but this does seem the most likely explanation. On the basis of this, if anyone has any suggestions, I and maybe some others on the list would like to know them. Alice PS Just to clarify - I realize the header I posted previously was a txt file and I did try to post a text file a couple of times because I had changed the header. But I also tried to post many times the zip file and got the same message except for a zip file. I think posting the message with the text file did natuarally confuse the thread and we were sometimes talking at cross purposes! -----Original Message----- From: GENEALOGY-DNA [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Genealice Sent: 10 October 2017 19:27 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DNA] GENEALOGY-DNA Digest, Vol 12, Issue 678 Hi David, Nice to hear from you. Obviously I started from the assumption I was doing something wrong, although after numerous upload attempts, checking that my two browsers do not automatically unzip the files (they're all set on "ask to unzip" and always were), getting the same message again and again and then finding a 14-page thread on FamilyTreeDna on just this subject http://bit.ly/2yDvTbn , I'm beginning to think it's not just me! I've given a link to the last page of the thread so that people don't have to trawl through 14 pages! I'm careful to add a proviso that just because people are coming up with theories, it doesn't mean that is the answer. However the difference in size between the files that can be uploaded 17,686KB and those that can't be uploaded 17,184KB could be significant. My file is 17,184KB. As you will see from a number of the postings, some people have a number of Ancestry raw data kits, some of which can upload to Family Tree DNA and others which do not and they can compare. They are finding that the files that do not upload are the smaller size. I may have confused folks by starting off this thread with the header from an unzipped file - this was only because I had found a posting which suggested changing the header. But I only tried to do this after the zipped file did not upload after several attempts. I hope this is clearer! :) Kind Regards, Alice -----Original Message----- From: GENEALOGY-DNA [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Hamill Sent: 10 October 2017 20:42 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DNA] GENEALOGY-DNA Digest, Vol 12, Issue 678 Looking briefly at these perplexing problems… one thought is that depending on your computer and how it is set up, you may not actually see the suffix on the file name. Mentioning this just in case. You could save a file named Data.zip thinking it is a zip file, when the computer is actually adding .txt to the end so that the name is actually Data.zip.txt … Probably not what is going on but I did not notice this possibility being mentioned…. > On Oct 10, 2017, at 11:08 AM, [email protected] wrote: > > Send GENEALOGY-DNA mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists3.rootsweb.ancestry.com/mailman/listinfo/genealogy-dna > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of GENEALOGY-DNA digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem (Genealice) > 2. Re: Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem (Wjhonson) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2017 18:04:39 +0100 > From: Genealice <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [DNA] Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi, > > Thanks again for your interest. I've already done it several times so > I can give the answer straightaway: > > "The specified file 'Ancestry dna.txt' could not be uploaded. The file > is an unsupported version or in a corrupt/malformed format. Please > place an order for Family Finder > <https://www.familytreedna.com/products/family-finder> or download the file and try again." > > Unless the following thread on Family Tree DNA is misleading, there > does seem to be a problem with the Ancestry file. The size of the file > I am trying to upload is also 17,184 kb. I have downloaded it several > times and it is always the same size. According to this thread, the > file should be bigger. > http://66.249.108.88/showthread.php?t=41783&highlight=problem+Ancestry > +autos > omal+transfer&page=14 > > -----Original Message----- > From: GENEALOGY-DNA [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Wjhonson > Sent: 10 October 2017 17:32 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [DNA] Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem > > Try the upload again, use the file that ends in .zip and report what > error it gives you > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Genealice <[email protected]> > To: genealogy-dna <[email protected]> > Sent: Tue, Oct 10, 2017 9:24 am > Subject: Re: [DNA] Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem > > Hi, > > > That's what I've been uploading ... I do have both - a zip file and a > text file from a separate zip file which I download. I've tried both > the zip and the text, downloading again from Ancestry. And I've just > checked in my Mozilla browser which I usually use and it is set on ask to unzip. > > Kind Regards, > Alice > > -----Original Message----- > From: GENEALOGY-DNA [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Wjhonson > Sent: 10 October 2017 16:58 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [DNA] Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem > > You should have a version of the same file name on your computer > somewhere without the ".txt" ending. > > It should have the ".zip" ending > > Have you tried a search on your computer? > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Genealice <[email protected]> > To: genealogy-dna <[email protected]> > Sent: Tue, Oct 10, 2017 8:55 am > Subject: Re: [DNA] Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem > > > Hi, > > Thanks for the response. I've tried it in both Mozilla and Internet > Explorer. How do I stop the browser unzipping it as text if that's > what it > is|? I did manage to upload it to My Heritage without a problem. I > is|have to > say this does seem to be a problem for plenty of others as another > participant in this thread has indicated, but if there is a simpler > explanation which can be fixed, that would of course work for me! > > Kind Regards, > Alice > > -----Original Message----- > From: GENEALOGY-DNA [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Wjhonson > Sent: 10 October 2017 16:47 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [DNA] Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem > > It is likely that your browser or some software addin is *unzipping* > the file for you When you go to do the upload, look carefully at the > file name that it is attempting to upload It should *not* be the file > that ends in ".txt" that is not the file you want > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Genealice <[email protected]> > To: genealogy-dna <[email protected]> > Sent: Tue, Oct 10, 2017 6:06 am > Subject: Re: [DNA] Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem > > I don't seem to have cracked this one. Just to make clear, I have > downloaded the zip file from Ancestry and left it untouched. It won't > upload and I get the same error message. > > > > 'Ancestry dna.txt' could not be uploaded. The file is an unsupported > version or in a corrupt/malformed format. Please place an order for > <https://www.familytreedna.com/products/family-finder> Family Finder > or download the file and try again." > > > > I unzip and upload the file. I get the same error message. I have > changed the headers I still get the same message. I think it would be > logical to deduce, since other people have the same problem and others > have not, that there might be something wrong with the particular > Ancestry file as regards Family Tree DNA? I upload to Gedmatch and My Heritage without a problem. > > > > Can anyone can shed light on the matter? > > > > Kind Regards, > > Alice > > > > > > From: Genealice [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 08 October 2017 21:02 > To: '[email protected]' > Subject: Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem > > > > Hi, > > > > OK, I fully admit I joined this list because a problem has cropped up > and I'm posting straightaway. But I hope it will be of interest to the > mailing list and thank you for having me! > > > > I am trying to do an autosomal transfer, uploading an Ancestry.com raw > data file to Family Tree DNA. However I keep on getting the following > message > > > > "The specified file 'Ancestry dna.txt' could not be uploaded. The file > is an unsupported version or in a corrupt/malformed format. Please > place an order for Family Finder > <https://www.familytreedna.com/products/family-finder> or download the file and try again." > > > > Looking on the FTDNA message boards this seems to be a common problem. > There seem to a number of different theories over this: that is on FTDNA's side. > That it is Ancestry.com and the files are smaller than they should be. > That it is to do with the header. I have tried replacing the header > with that suggested on the message board but it made no difference. > > > > I have posted it on Gedmatch with no problem at all but I understand > it allows for more variations in the raw data. > > > > The header on the Ancestry data I have is as follows: > > > > #AncestryDNA raw data download > > #This file was generated by AncestryDNA at: 10/07/2017 01:20:13 UTC > > #Data was collected using AncestryDNA array version: V2.0 > > #Data is formatted using AncestryDNA converter version: V1.0 > > #Below is a text version of your DNA file from Ancestry.com DNA, LLC. > THIS > > #INFORMATION IS FOR YOUR PERSONAL USE AND IS INTENDED FOR GENEALOGICAL > RESEARCH > > #ONLY. IT IS NOT INTENDED FOR MEDICAL, DIAGNOSTIC, OR HEALTH > PURPOSES. THE EXPORTED DATA IS > > #SUBJECT TO THE AncestryDNA TERMS AND CONDITIONS, BUT PLEASE BE AWARE > THAT THE > > #DOWNLOADED DATA WILL NO LONGER BE PROTECTED BY OUR SECURITY MEASURES. > > #WHEN YOU DOWNLOAD YOUR RAW DNA DATA, YOU ASSUME ALL RISK OF STORING, > > #SECURING AND PROTECTING YOUR DATA. FOR MORE INFORMATION, SEE > ANCESTRYDNA FAQS. > > # > > #Genetic data is provided below as five TAB delimited columns. Each > line > > #corresponds to a SNP. Column one provides the SNP identifier (rsID > where > > #possible). Columns two and three contain the chromosome and basepair > position > > #of the SNP using human reference build 37.1 coordinates. Columns > four and five > > #contain the two alleles observed at this SNP (genotype). The > genotype is reported > > #on the forward (+) strand with respect to the human reference. > > rsid chromosome position allele1 allele2 > > > > I am not a tekkie and just want to get on Family Tree DNA. Can anyone > help me with this? > > > > Thank you so much! > > > > Alice > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2017 13:08:13 -0400 > From: Wjhonson <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [DNA] Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Instead of giving the answer straight away, try it again. > Verify that the file you are actually uploading actually ends with > .zip Don't assume you've been doing it right all this time Assume > you've been doing it wrong > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Genealice <[email protected]> > To: genealogy-dna <[email protected]> > Sent: Tue, Oct 10, 2017 10:05 am > Subject: Re: [DNA] Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem > > Hi, > > Thanks again for your interest. I've already done it several times so > I can give the answer straightaway: > > "The specified file 'Ancestry dna.txt' could not be uploaded. The file > is an unsupported version or in a corrupt/malformed format. Please > place an order for Family Finder > <https://www.familytreedna.com/products/family-finder> or download the file and try again." > > Unless the following thread on Family Tree DNA is misleading, there > does seem to be a problem with the Ancestry file. The size of the file > I am trying to upload is also 17,184 kb. I have downloaded it several > times and it is always the same size. According to this thread, the > file should be bigger. > http://66.249.108.88/showthread.php?t=41783&highlight=problem+Ancestry > +autos > omal+transfer&page=14 > > -----Original Message----- > From: GENEALOGY-DNA [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Wjhonson > Sent: 10 October 2017 17:32 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [DNA] Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem > > Try the upload again, use the file that ends in .zip and report what > error it gives you > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Genealice <[email protected]> > To: genealogy-dna <[email protected]> > Sent: Tue, Oct 10, 2017 9:24 am > Subject: Re: [DNA] Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem > > Hi, > > > That's what I've been uploading ... I do have both - a zip file and a > text file from a separate zip file which I download. I've tried both > the zip and the text, downloading again from Ancestry. And I've just > checked in my Mozilla browser which I usually use and it is set on ask to unzip. > > Kind Regards, > Alice > > -----Original Message----- > From: GENEALOGY-DNA [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Wjhonson > Sent: 10 October 2017 16:58 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [DNA] Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem > > You should have a version of the same file name on your computer > somewhere without the ".txt" ending. > > It should have the ".zip" ending > > Have you tried a search on your computer? > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Genealice <[email protected]> > To: genealogy-dna <[email protected]> > Sent: Tue, Oct 10, 2017 8:55 am > Subject: Re: [DNA] Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem > > > Hi, > > Thanks for the response. I've tried it in both Mozilla and Internet > Explorer. How do I stop the browser unzipping it as text if that's > what it > is|? I did manage to upload it to My Heritage without a problem. I > is|have to > say this does seem to be a problem for plenty of others as another > participant in this thread has indicated, but if there is a simpler > explanation which can be fixed, that would of course work for me! > > Kind Regards, > Alice > > -----Original Message----- > From: GENEALOGY-DNA [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Wjhonson > Sent: 10 October 2017 16:47 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [DNA] Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem > > It is likely that your browser or some software addin is *unzipping* > the file for you When you go to do the upload, look carefully at the > file name that it is attempting to upload It should *not* be the file > that ends in ".txt" that is not the file you want > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Genealice <[email protected]> > To: genealogy-dna <[email protected]> > Sent: Tue, Oct 10, 2017 6:06 am > Subject: Re: [DNA] Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem > > I don't seem to have cracked this one. Just to make clear, I have > downloaded the zip file from Ancestry and left it untouched. It won't > upload and I get the same error message. > > > > 'Ancestry dna.txt' could not be uploaded. The file is an unsupported > version or in a corrupt/malformed format. Please place an order for > <https://www.familytreedna.com/products/family-finder> Family Finder > or download the file and try again." > > > > I unzip and upload the file. I get the same error message. I have > changed the headers I still get the same message. I think it would be > logical to deduce, since other people have the same problem and others > have not, that there might be something wrong with the particular > Ancestry file as regards Family Tree DNA? I upload to Gedmatch and My Heritage without a problem. > > > > Can anyone can shed light on the matter? > > > > Kind Regards, > > Alice > > > > > > From: Genealice [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 08 October 2017 21:02 > To: '[email protected]' > Subject: Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem > > > > Hi, > > > > OK, I fully admit I joined this list because a problem has cropped up > and I'm posting straightaway. But I hope it will be of interest to the > mailing list and thank you for having me! > > > > I am trying to do an autosomal transfer, uploading an Ancestry.com raw > data file to Family Tree DNA. However I keep on getting the following > message > > > > "The specified file 'Ancestry dna.txt' could not be uploaded. The file > is an unsupported version or in a corrupt/malformed format. Please > place an order for Family Finder > <https://www.familytreedna.com/products/family-finder> or download the file and try again." > > > > Looking on the FTDNA message boards this seems to be a common problem. > There seem to a number of different theories over this: that is on FTDNA's side. > That it is Ancestry.com and the files are smaller than they should be. > That it is to do with the header. I have tried replacing the header > with that suggested on the message board but it made no difference. > > > > I have posted it on Gedmatch with no problem at all but I understand > it allows for more variations in the raw data. > > > > The header on the Ancestry data I have is as follows: > > > > #AncestryDNA raw data download > > #This file was generated by AncestryDNA at: 10/07/2017 01:20:13 UTC > > #Data was collected using AncestryDNA array version: V2.0 > > #Data is formatted using AncestryDNA converter version: V1.0 > > #Below is a text version of your DNA file from Ancestry.com DNA, LLC. > THIS > > #INFORMATION IS FOR YOUR PERSONAL USE AND IS INTENDED FOR GENEALOGICAL > RESEARCH > > #ONLY. IT IS NOT INTENDED FOR MEDICAL, DIAGNOSTIC, OR HEALTH > PURPOSES. THE EXPORTED DATA IS > > #SUBJECT TO THE AncestryDNA TERMS AND CONDITIONS, BUT PLEASE BE AWARE > THAT THE > > #DOWNLOADED DATA WILL NO LONGER BE PROTECTED BY OUR SECURITY MEASURES. > > #WHEN YOU DOWNLOAD YOUR RAW DNA DATA, YOU ASSUME ALL RISK OF STORING, > > #SECURING AND PROTECTING YOUR DATA. FOR MORE INFORMATION, SEE > ANCESTRYDNA FAQS. > > # > > #Genetic data is provided below as five TAB delimited columns. Each > line > > #corresponds to a SNP. Column one provides the SNP identifier (rsID > where > > #possible). Columns two and three contain the chromosome and basepair > position > > #of the SNP using human reference build 37.1 coordinates. Columns > four and five > > #contain the two alleles observed at this SNP (genotype). The > genotype is reported > > #on the forward (+) strand with respect to the human reference. > > rsid chromosome position allele1 allele2 > > > > I am not a tekkie and just want to get on Family Tree DNA. 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I'm glad to hear that worked. I gather the results were consistent with your other method? Ann Turner On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 5:13 PM, Dennis Wright <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Ann, > > At your suggestion I had another look at the LiftOver function of Genome > Browser, https://genome.ucsc.edu/cgi-bin/hgLiftOver and Yes, it works > too, and is possibly simpler than my earlier method. > > Method:- > > 1. Start with your list of hg19 SNP positions in any order and place in > a spreadsheet starting at cell A1. > > 2. Alongside, use the formula =CONCATENATE("chrY:",A1,"-",A1) and copy > down the list of SNP positions. > > 3. Copy this text list and paste into the input window in the Genome > Browser, https://genome.ucsc.edu/cgi-bin/hgLiftOver > > 4. Make sure the "Original Assembly" is set to hg19 and "New Assembly" > is set to hg38 and press "Submit" > > 5. Under 'Results' is a link "View Conversions', click this link. > > 6. A file is downloaded to your computer named in the form:- > "hglift_genome_70f0-d4f300.bed" > > 7. Your results are returned in the same order as submitted in the > format "chrY:xxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxx" > > > > 8. Use the formula =ABS(RIGHT(A1,8) to return the hg38 position > > Hope this helps* > * > > *Dennis Wright* > > > > > > On 10/10/2017 11:14 PM, Ann Turner wrote: > >> I received a note off-list reminding me about the LiftOver tool at the >> UCSC >> Genome Browser website: >> >> https://genome.ucsc.edu/cgi-bin/hgLiftOver >> >> There has been some discussion on the mailing list for the ISOGG tree >> about >> whether there are some "gotchas" in that method, though. Dennis, could you >> review that method and see if it comes up with the same results? >> >

That worked for files downloaded from AncestryDNA during a certain time frame, but this appears to be a new problem where the file size has changed. Ann Turner On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 5:42 PM, Kb <[email protected]> wrote: > There is a work around on this. It is fairly simple, and I found it after > I had the same problem. > > You need to edit the txt file in the zipped file, so unzip the file and > load the AncestryDNA.txt file into a text editor-Notepad on Windows is is > deal. > > You need to make edits to lines 3 and 4: > > #Data was collected using AncestryDNA array version: V1.0 > # etc > > Change to V2.0 > Save as txt file. > Rezip with same file name > It should load into FTDNA. > > Cheers > Kevin Brewer > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi David, Nice to hear from you. Obviously I started from the assumption I was doing something wrong, although after numerous upload attempts, checking that my two browsers do not automatically unzip the files (they're all set on "ask to unzip" and always were), getting the same message again and again and then finding a 14-page thread on FamilyTreeDna on just this subject http://bit.ly/2yDvTbn , I'm beginning to think it's not just me! I've given a link to the last page of the thread so that people don't have to trawl through 14 pages! I'm careful to add a proviso that just because people are coming up with theories, it doesn't mean that is the answer. However the difference in size between the files that can be uploaded 17,686KB and those that can't be uploaded 17,184KB could be significant. My file is 17,184KB. As you will see from a number of the postings, some people have a number of Ancestry raw data kits, some of which can upload to Family Tree DNA and others which do not and they can compare. They are finding that the files that do not upload are the smaller size. I may have confused folks by starting off this thread with the header from an unzipped file - this was only because I had found a posting which suggested changing the header. But I only tried to do this after the zipped file did not upload after several attempts. I hope this is clearer! :) Kind Regards, Alice -----Original Message----- From: GENEALOGY-DNA [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Hamill Sent: 10 October 2017 20:42 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DNA] GENEALOGY-DNA Digest, Vol 12, Issue 678 Looking briefly at these perplexing problems… one thought is that depending on your computer and how it is set up, you may not actually see the suffix on the file name. Mentioning this just in case. You could save a file named Data.zip thinking it is a zip file, when the computer is actually adding .txt to the end so that the name is actually Data.zip.txt … Probably not what is going on but I did not notice this possibility being mentioned…. > On Oct 10, 2017, at 11:08 AM, [email protected] wrote: > > Send GENEALOGY-DNA mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists3.rootsweb.ancestry.com/mailman/listinfo/genealogy-dna > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of GENEALOGY-DNA digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem (Genealice) > 2. Re: Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem (Wjhonson) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2017 18:04:39 +0100 > From: Genealice <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [DNA] Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi, > > Thanks again for your interest. I've already done it several times so > I can give the answer straightaway: > > "The specified file 'Ancestry dna.txt' could not be uploaded. The file > is an unsupported version or in a corrupt/malformed format. Please > place an order for Family Finder > <https://www.familytreedna.com/products/family-finder> or download the file and try again." > > Unless the following thread on Family Tree DNA is misleading, there > does seem to be a problem with the Ancestry file. The size of the file > I am trying to upload is also 17,184 kb. I have downloaded it several > times and it is always the same size. According to this thread, the > file should be bigger. > http://66.249.108.88/showthread.php?t=41783&highlight=problem+Ancestry > +autos > omal+transfer&page=14 > > -----Original Message----- > From: GENEALOGY-DNA [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Wjhonson > Sent: 10 October 2017 17:32 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [DNA] Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem > > Try the upload again, use the file that ends in .zip and report what > error it gives you > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Genealice <[email protected]> > To: genealogy-dna <[email protected]> > Sent: Tue, Oct 10, 2017 9:24 am > Subject: Re: [DNA] Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem > > Hi, > > > That's what I've been uploading ... I do have both - a zip file and a > text file from a separate zip file which I download. I've tried both > the zip and the text, downloading again from Ancestry. And I've just > checked in my Mozilla browser which I usually use and it is set on ask to unzip. > > Kind Regards, > Alice > > -----Original Message----- > From: GENEALOGY-DNA [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Wjhonson > Sent: 10 October 2017 16:58 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [DNA] Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem > > You should have a version of the same file name on your computer > somewhere without the ".txt" ending. > > It should have the ".zip" ending > > Have you tried a search on your computer? > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Genealice <[email protected]> > To: genealogy-dna <[email protected]> > Sent: Tue, Oct 10, 2017 8:55 am > Subject: Re: [DNA] Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem > > > Hi, > > Thanks for the response. I've tried it in both Mozilla and Internet > Explorer. How do I stop the browser unzipping it as text if that's > what it > is|? I did manage to upload it to My Heritage without a problem. I > is|have to > say this does seem to be a problem for plenty of others as another > participant in this thread has indicated, but if there is a simpler > explanation which can be fixed, that would of course work for me! > > Kind Regards, > Alice > > -----Original Message----- > From: GENEALOGY-DNA [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Wjhonson > Sent: 10 October 2017 16:47 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [DNA] Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem > > It is likely that your browser or some software addin is *unzipping* > the file for you When you go to do the upload, look carefully at the > file name that it is attempting to upload It should *not* be the file > that ends in ".txt" that is not the file you want > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Genealice <[email protected]> > To: genealogy-dna <[email protected]> > Sent: Tue, Oct 10, 2017 6:06 am > Subject: Re: [DNA] Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem > > I don't seem to have cracked this one. Just to make clear, I have > downloaded the zip file from Ancestry and left it untouched. It won't > upload and I get the same error message. > > > > 'Ancestry dna.txt' could not be uploaded. The file is an unsupported > version or in a corrupt/malformed format. Please place an order for > <https://www.familytreedna.com/products/family-finder> Family Finder > or download the file and try again." > > > > I unzip and upload the file. I get the same error message. I have > changed the headers I still get the same message. I think it would be > logical to deduce, since other people have the same problem and others > have not, that there might be something wrong with the particular > Ancestry file as regards Family Tree DNA? I upload to Gedmatch and My Heritage without a problem. > > > > Can anyone can shed light on the matter? > > > > Kind Regards, > > Alice > > > > > > From: Genealice [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 08 October 2017 21:02 > To: '[email protected]' > Subject: Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem > > > > Hi, > > > > OK, I fully admit I joined this list because a problem has cropped up > and I'm posting straightaway. But I hope it will be of interest to the > mailing list and thank you for having me! > > > > I am trying to do an autosomal transfer, uploading an Ancestry.com raw > data file to Family Tree DNA. However I keep on getting the following > message > > > > "The specified file 'Ancestry dna.txt' could not be uploaded. The file > is an unsupported version or in a corrupt/malformed format. Please > place an order for Family Finder > <https://www.familytreedna.com/products/family-finder> or download the file and try again." > > > > Looking on the FTDNA message boards this seems to be a common problem. > There seem to a number of different theories over this: that is on FTDNA's side. > That it is Ancestry.com and the files are smaller than they should be. > That it is to do with the header. I have tried replacing the header > with that suggested on the message board but it made no difference. > > > > I have posted it on Gedmatch with no problem at all but I understand > it allows for more variations in the raw data. > > > > The header on the Ancestry data I have is as follows: > > > > #AncestryDNA raw data download > > #This file was generated by AncestryDNA at: 10/07/2017 01:20:13 UTC > > #Data was collected using AncestryDNA array version: V2.0 > > #Data is formatted using AncestryDNA converter version: V1.0 > > #Below is a text version of your DNA file from Ancestry.com DNA, LLC. > THIS > > #INFORMATION IS FOR YOUR PERSONAL USE AND IS INTENDED FOR GENEALOGICAL > RESEARCH > > #ONLY. IT IS NOT INTENDED FOR MEDICAL, DIAGNOSTIC, OR HEALTH > PURPOSES. THE EXPORTED DATA IS > > #SUBJECT TO THE AncestryDNA TERMS AND CONDITIONS, BUT PLEASE BE AWARE > THAT THE > > #DOWNLOADED DATA WILL NO LONGER BE PROTECTED BY OUR SECURITY MEASURES. > > #WHEN YOU DOWNLOAD YOUR RAW DNA DATA, YOU ASSUME ALL RISK OF STORING, > > #SECURING AND PROTECTING YOUR DATA. FOR MORE INFORMATION, SEE > ANCESTRYDNA FAQS. > > # > > #Genetic data is provided below as five TAB delimited columns. Each > line > > #corresponds to a SNP. Column one provides the SNP identifier (rsID > where > > #possible). Columns two and three contain the chromosome and basepair > position > > #of the SNP using human reference build 37.1 coordinates. Columns > four and five > > #contain the two alleles observed at this SNP (genotype). The > genotype is reported > > #on the forward (+) strand with respect to the human reference. > > rsid chromosome position allele1 allele2 > > > > I am not a tekkie and just want to get on Family Tree DNA. Can anyone > help me with this? > > > > Thank you so much! > > > > Alice > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2017 13:08:13 -0400 > From: Wjhonson <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [DNA] Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Instead of giving the answer straight away, try it again. > Verify that the file you are actually uploading actually ends with > .zip Don't assume you've been doing it right all this time Assume > you've been doing it wrong > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Genealice <[email protected]> > To: genealogy-dna <[email protected]> > Sent: Tue, Oct 10, 2017 10:05 am > Subject: Re: [DNA] Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem > > Hi, > > Thanks again for your interest. I've already done it several times so > I can give the answer straightaway: > > "The specified file 'Ancestry dna.txt' could not be uploaded. The file > is an unsupported version or in a corrupt/malformed format. Please > place an order for Family Finder > <https://www.familytreedna.com/products/family-finder> or download the file and try again." > > Unless the following thread on Family Tree DNA is misleading, there > does seem to be a problem with the Ancestry file. The size of the file > I am trying to upload is also 17,184 kb. I have downloaded it several > times and it is always the same size. According to this thread, the > file should be bigger. > http://66.249.108.88/showthread.php?t=41783&highlight=problem+Ancestry > +autos > omal+transfer&page=14 > > -----Original Message----- > From: GENEALOGY-DNA [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Wjhonson > Sent: 10 October 2017 17:32 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [DNA] Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem > > Try the upload again, use the file that ends in .zip and report what > error it gives you > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Genealice <[email protected]> > To: genealogy-dna <[email protected]> > Sent: Tue, Oct 10, 2017 9:24 am > Subject: Re: [DNA] Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem > > Hi, > > > That's what I've been uploading ... I do have both - a zip file and a > text file from a separate zip file which I download. I've tried both > the zip and the text, downloading again from Ancestry. And I've just > checked in my Mozilla browser which I usually use and it is set on ask to unzip. > > Kind Regards, > Alice > > -----Original Message----- > From: GENEALOGY-DNA [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Wjhonson > Sent: 10 October 2017 16:58 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [DNA] Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem > > You should have a version of the same file name on your computer > somewhere without the ".txt" ending. > > It should have the ".zip" ending > > Have you tried a search on your computer? > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Genealice <[email protected]> > To: genealogy-dna <[email protected]> > Sent: Tue, Oct 10, 2017 8:55 am > Subject: Re: [DNA] Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem > > > Hi, > > Thanks for the response. I've tried it in both Mozilla and Internet > Explorer. How do I stop the browser unzipping it as text if that's > what it > is|? I did manage to upload it to My Heritage without a problem. I > is|have to > say this does seem to be a problem for plenty of others as another > participant in this thread has indicated, but if there is a simpler > explanation which can be fixed, that would of course work for me! > > Kind Regards, > Alice > > -----Original Message----- > From: GENEALOGY-DNA [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Wjhonson > Sent: 10 October 2017 16:47 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [DNA] Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem > > It is likely that your browser or some software addin is *unzipping* > the file for you When you go to do the upload, look carefully at the > file name that it is attempting to upload It should *not* be the file > that ends in ".txt" that is not the file you want > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Genealice <[email protected]> > To: genealogy-dna <[email protected]> > Sent: Tue, Oct 10, 2017 6:06 am > Subject: Re: [DNA] Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem > > I don't seem to have cracked this one. Just to make clear, I have > downloaded the zip file from Ancestry and left it untouched. It won't > upload and I get the same error message. > > > > 'Ancestry dna.txt' could not be uploaded. The file is an unsupported > version or in a corrupt/malformed format. Please place an order for > <https://www.familytreedna.com/products/family-finder> Family Finder > or download the file and try again." > > > > I unzip and upload the file. I get the same error message. I have > changed the headers I still get the same message. I think it would be > logical to deduce, since other people have the same problem and others > have not, that there might be something wrong with the particular > Ancestry file as regards Family Tree DNA? I upload to Gedmatch and My Heritage without a problem. > > > > Can anyone can shed light on the matter? > > > > Kind Regards, > > Alice > > > > > > From: Genealice [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 08 October 2017 21:02 > To: '[email protected]' > Subject: Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem > > > > Hi, > > > > OK, I fully admit I joined this list because a problem has cropped up > and I'm posting straightaway. But I hope it will be of interest to the > mailing list and thank you for having me! > > > > I am trying to do an autosomal transfer, uploading an Ancestry.com raw > data file to Family Tree DNA. However I keep on getting the following > message > > > > "The specified file 'Ancestry dna.txt' could not be uploaded. The file > is an unsupported version or in a corrupt/malformed format. Please > place an order for Family Finder > <https://www.familytreedna.com/products/family-finder> or download the file and try again." > > > > Looking on the FTDNA message boards this seems to be a common problem. > There seem to a number of different theories over this: that is on FTDNA's side. > That it is Ancestry.com and the files are smaller than they should be. > That it is to do with the header. I have tried replacing the header > with that suggested on the message board but it made no difference. > > > > I have posted it on Gedmatch with no problem at all but I understand > it allows for more variations in the raw data. > > > > The header on the Ancestry data I have is as follows: > > > > #AncestryDNA raw data download > > #This file was generated by AncestryDNA at: 10/07/2017 01:20:13 UTC > > #Data was collected using AncestryDNA array version: V2.0 > > #Data is formatted using AncestryDNA converter version: V1.0 > > #Below is a text version of your DNA file from Ancestry.com DNA, LLC. > THIS > > #INFORMATION IS FOR YOUR PERSONAL USE AND IS INTENDED FOR GENEALOGICAL > RESEARCH > > #ONLY. IT IS NOT INTENDED FOR MEDICAL, DIAGNOSTIC, OR HEALTH > PURPOSES. THE EXPORTED DATA IS > > #SUBJECT TO THE AncestryDNA TERMS AND CONDITIONS, BUT PLEASE BE AWARE > THAT THE > > #DOWNLOADED DATA WILL NO LONGER BE PROTECTED BY OUR SECURITY MEASURES. > > #WHEN YOU DOWNLOAD YOUR RAW DNA DATA, YOU ASSUME ALL RISK OF STORING, > > #SECURING AND PROTECTING YOUR DATA. FOR MORE INFORMATION, SEE > ANCESTRYDNA FAQS. > > # > > #Genetic data is provided below as five TAB delimited columns. Each > line > > #corresponds to a SNP. Column one provides the SNP identifier (rsID > where > > #possible). Columns two and three contain the chromosome and basepair > position > > #of the SNP using human reference build 37.1 coordinates. Columns > four and five > > #contain the two alleles observed at this SNP (genotype). The > genotype is reported > > #on the forward (+) strand with respect to the human reference. > > rsid chromosome position allele1 allele2 > > > > I am not a tekkie and just want to get on Family Tree DNA. Can anyone > help me with this? > > > > Thank you so much! > > > > Alice > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > To contact the GENEALOGY-DNA list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the GENEALOGY-DNA mailing list, send an email to [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the > body of the email with no additional text. > > > ------------------------------ > > End of GENEALOGY-DNA Digest, Vol 12, Issue 678 > ********************************************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

For those that have a spreadsheet with a large number of SNPs presently showing hg19 positions, you are probably wondering what is involved in producing hg38 positions.  Here is how I went about it. I have been able to organise my SNP positions with the help of the mutation page produced by Alex Williamson, http://www.ytree.net/hg19tohg38.html. 1.    I took the list of my 695 SNPs and pasted the hg19 positions into column A of a new spreadsheet. 2.    Copy this list into Column D 2.    Sort Column D from smallest to largest 3.    In column E insert the adjustment specified in Alex's listing.  As these are ranges, copying in the adjustments is quite quick, and this is the worst part of the whole procedure. 4.    Calculate the new position in column F with a formula that adds or subtracts column E from column D as appropriate. 5.    In column B, Cell B1, insert the formula =VLOOKUP(A1,D:F, 3,FALSE) and copy this formula to the bottom of your list of positions. 6.    Column B now holds the hg38 positions of your SNPs in the order of your original list. Copy this Column, 7.    'Paste Special' choosing 'Values' to your original SNP listing spreadsheet and job is done! I hope this helps others do their conversions (Thanks Alex) Kind regards all! *Dennis Wright* Donnchadh Mac an tSaoir Irish Type III R-L226 > FGC12290 /"We are merely the present-day custodians of our Ancestors genes." / On 10/10/2017 9:09 AM, McDonald, J Douglas wrote: > I got a reply to a question about this. Its pretty clear. > > It says: > > > "Remapped vcf and BED files will be generated from the remapped BAM files, though it may take a few days after the re-run is complete for them to be available. > > A remapped downloadable BAM file will be available on request at some point after the re-run. We do not yet know when that will be. > Those who have a hg19 BAM file will have to request a hg38 BAM file. We won't automatically replace them. " > > That means that all the raw data, if you re-download all of it, will be coherent. This is very good news > if its accurate. > > Doug McDonald > ________________________________________ > From: GENEALOGY-DNA > Dear All, > > Earlier today I received an e-mail from FTDNA that they will be moving from > Build 37 to Build 38 for the BigY. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

ancestry.com data files seem to be 6008 KB. Doug McDonald

Hi, Thanks again for your interest. I've already done it several times so I can give the answer straightaway: "The specified file 'Ancestry dna.txt' could not be uploaded. The file is an unsupported version or in a corrupt/malformed format. Please place an order for Family Finder <https://www.familytreedna.com/products/family-finder> or download the file and try again." Unless the following thread on Family Tree DNA is misleading, there does seem to be a problem with the Ancestry file. The size of the file I am trying to upload is also 17,184 kb. I have downloaded it several times and it is always the same size. According to this thread, the file should be bigger. http://66.249.108.88/showthread.php?t=41783&highlight=problem+Ancestry+autos omal+transfer&page=14 -----Original Message----- From: GENEALOGY-DNA [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: 10 October 2017 17:32 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DNA] Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem Try the upload again, use the file that ends in .zip and report what error it gives you -----Original Message----- From: Genealice <[email protected]> To: genealogy-dna <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, Oct 10, 2017 9:24 am Subject: Re: [DNA] Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem Hi, That's what I've been uploading ... I do have both - a zip file and a text file from a separate zip file which I download. I've tried both the zip and the text, downloading again from Ancestry. And I've just checked in my Mozilla browser which I usually use and it is set on ask to unzip. Kind Regards, Alice -----Original Message----- From: GENEALOGY-DNA [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: 10 October 2017 16:58 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DNA] Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem You should have a version of the same file name on your computer somewhere without the ".txt" ending. It should have the ".zip" ending Have you tried a search on your computer? -----Original Message----- From: Genealice <[email protected]> To: genealogy-dna <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, Oct 10, 2017 8:55 am Subject: Re: [DNA] Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem Hi, Thanks for the response. I've tried it in both Mozilla and Internet Explorer. How do I stop the browser unzipping it as text if that's what it is|? I did manage to upload it to My Heritage without a problem. I have is|to say this does seem to be a problem for plenty of others as another participant in this thread has indicated, but if there is a simpler explanation which can be fixed, that would of course work for me! Kind Regards, Alice -----Original Message----- From: GENEALOGY-DNA [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: 10 October 2017 16:47 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DNA] Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem It is likely that your browser or some software addin is *unzipping* the file for you When you go to do the upload, look carefully at the file name that it is attempting to upload It should *not* be the file that ends in ".txt" that is not the file you want -----Original Message----- From: Genealice <[email protected]> To: genealogy-dna <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, Oct 10, 2017 6:06 am Subject: Re: [DNA] Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem I don't seem to have cracked this one. Just to make clear, I have downloaded the zip file from Ancestry and left it untouched. It won't upload and I get the same error message. 'Ancestry dna.txt' could not be uploaded. The file is an unsupported version or in a corrupt/malformed format. Please place an order for <https://www.familytreedna.com/products/family-finder> Family Finder or download the file and try again." I unzip and upload the file. I get the same error message. I have changed the headers I still get the same message. I think it would be logical to deduce, since other people have the same problem and others have not, that there might be something wrong with the particular Ancestry file as regards Family Tree DNA? I upload to Gedmatch and My Heritage without a problem. Can anyone can shed light on the matter? Kind Regards, Alice From: Genealice [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 08 October 2017 21:02 To: '[email protected]' Subject: Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem Hi, OK, I fully admit I joined this list because a problem has cropped up and I'm posting straightaway. But I hope it will be of interest to the mailing list and thank you for having me! I am trying to do an autosomal transfer, uploading an Ancestry.com raw data file to Family Tree DNA. However I keep on getting the following message "The specified file 'Ancestry dna.txt' could not be uploaded. The file is an unsupported version or in a corrupt/malformed format. Please place an order for Family Finder <https://www.familytreedna.com/products/family-finder> or download the file and try again." Looking on the FTDNA message boards this seems to be a common problem. There seem to a number of different theories over this: that is on FTDNA's side. That it is Ancestry.com and the files are smaller than they should be. That it is to do with the header. I have tried replacing the header with that suggested on the message board but it made no difference. I have posted it on Gedmatch with no problem at all but I understand it allows for more variations in the raw data. The header on the Ancestry data I have is as follows: #AncestryDNA raw data download #This file was generated by AncestryDNA at: 10/07/2017 01:20:13 UTC #Data was collected using AncestryDNA array version: V2.0 #Data is formatted using AncestryDNA converter version: V1.0 #Below is a text version of your DNA file from Ancestry.com DNA, LLC. THIS #INFORMATION IS FOR YOUR PERSONAL USE AND IS INTENDED FOR GENEALOGICAL RESEARCH #ONLY. IT IS NOT INTENDED FOR MEDICAL, DIAGNOSTIC, OR HEALTH PURPOSES. THE EXPORTED DATA IS #SUBJECT TO THE AncestryDNA TERMS AND CONDITIONS, BUT PLEASE BE AWARE THAT THE #DOWNLOADED DATA WILL NO LONGER BE PROTECTED BY OUR SECURITY MEASURES. #WHEN YOU DOWNLOAD YOUR RAW DNA DATA, YOU ASSUME ALL RISK OF STORING, #SECURING AND PROTECTING YOUR DATA. FOR MORE INFORMATION, SEE ANCESTRYDNA FAQS. # #Genetic data is provided below as five TAB delimited columns. Each line #corresponds to a SNP. Column one provides the SNP identifier (rsID where #possible). Columns two and three contain the chromosome and basepair position #of the SNP using human reference build 37.1 coordinates. Columns four and five #contain the two alleles observed at this SNP (genotype). The genotype is reported #on the forward (+) strand with respect to the human reference. rsid chromosome position allele1 allele2 I am not a tekkie and just want to get on Family Tree DNA. Can anyone help me with this? Thank you so much! Alice ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, That's what I've been uploading ... I do have both - a zip file and a text file from a separate zip file which I download. I've tried both the zip and the text, downloading again from Ancestry. And I've just checked in my Mozilla browser which I usually use and it is set on ask to unzip. Kind Regards, Alice -----Original Message----- From: GENEALOGY-DNA [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: 10 October 2017 16:58 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DNA] Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem You should have a version of the same file name on your computer somewhere without the ".txt" ending. It should have the ".zip" ending Have you tried a search on your computer? -----Original Message----- From: Genealice <[email protected]> To: genealogy-dna <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, Oct 10, 2017 8:55 am Subject: Re: [DNA] Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem Hi, Thanks for the response. I've tried it in both Mozilla and Internet Explorer. How do I stop the browser unzipping it as text if that's what it is|? I did manage to upload it to My Heritage without a problem. I have is|to say this does seem to be a problem for plenty of others as another participant in this thread has indicated, but if there is a simpler explanation which can be fixed, that would of course work for me! Kind Regards, Alice -----Original Message----- From: GENEALOGY-DNA [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: 10 October 2017 16:47 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DNA] Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem It is likely that your browser or some software addin is *unzipping* the file for you When you go to do the upload, look carefully at the file name that it is attempting to upload It should *not* be the file that ends in ".txt" that is not the file you want -----Original Message----- From: Genealice <[email protected]> To: genealogy-dna <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, Oct 10, 2017 6:06 am Subject: Re: [DNA] Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem I don't seem to have cracked this one. Just to make clear, I have downloaded the zip file from Ancestry and left it untouched. It won't upload and I get the same error message. 'Ancestry dna.txt' could not be uploaded. The file is an unsupported version or in a corrupt/malformed format. Please place an order for <https://www.familytreedna.com/products/family-finder> Family Finder or download the file and try again." I unzip and upload the file. I get the same error message. I have changed the headers I still get the same message. I think it would be logical to deduce, since other people have the same problem and others have not, that there might be something wrong with the particular Ancestry file as regards Family Tree DNA? I upload to Gedmatch and My Heritage without a problem. Can anyone can shed light on the matter? Kind Regards, Alice From: Genealice [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 08 October 2017 21:02 To: '[email protected]' Subject: Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem Hi, OK, I fully admit I joined this list because a problem has cropped up and I'm posting straightaway. But I hope it will be of interest to the mailing list and thank you for having me! I am trying to do an autosomal transfer, uploading an Ancestry.com raw data file to Family Tree DNA. However I keep on getting the following message "The specified file 'Ancestry dna.txt' could not be uploaded. The file is an unsupported version or in a corrupt/malformed format. Please place an order for Family Finder <https://www.familytreedna.com/products/family-finder> or download the file and try again." Looking on the FTDNA message boards this seems to be a common problem. There seem to a number of different theories over this: that is on FTDNA's side. That it is Ancestry.com and the files are smaller than they should be. That it is to do with the header. I have tried replacing the header with that suggested on the message board but it made no difference. I have posted it on Gedmatch with no problem at all but I understand it allows for more variations in the raw data. The header on the Ancestry data I have is as follows: #AncestryDNA raw data download #This file was generated by AncestryDNA at: 10/07/2017 01:20:13 UTC #Data was collected using AncestryDNA array version: V2.0 #Data is formatted using AncestryDNA converter version: V1.0 #Below is a text version of your DNA file from Ancestry.com DNA, LLC. THIS #INFORMATION IS FOR YOUR PERSONAL USE AND IS INTENDED FOR GENEALOGICAL RESEARCH #ONLY. IT IS NOT INTENDED FOR MEDICAL, DIAGNOSTIC, OR HEALTH PURPOSES. THE EXPORTED DATA IS #SUBJECT TO THE AncestryDNA TERMS AND CONDITIONS, BUT PLEASE BE AWARE THAT THE #DOWNLOADED DATA WILL NO LONGER BE PROTECTED BY OUR SECURITY MEASURES. #WHEN YOU DOWNLOAD YOUR RAW DNA DATA, YOU ASSUME ALL RISK OF STORING, #SECURING AND PROTECTING YOUR DATA. FOR MORE INFORMATION, SEE ANCESTRYDNA FAQS. # #Genetic data is provided below as five TAB delimited columns. Each line #corresponds to a SNP. Column one provides the SNP identifier (rsID where #possible). Columns two and three contain the chromosome and basepair position #of the SNP using human reference build 37.1 coordinates. Columns four and five #contain the two alleles observed at this SNP (genotype). The genotype is reported #on the forward (+) strand with respect to the human reference. rsid chromosome position allele1 allele2 I am not a tekkie and just want to get on Family Tree DNA. Can anyone help me with this? Thank you so much! Alice ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Thanks for the response. I've tried it in both Mozilla and Internet Explorer. How do I stop the browser unzipping it as text if that's what it is|? I did manage to upload it to My Heritage without a problem. I have to say this does seem to be a problem for plenty of others as another participant in this thread has indicated, but if there is a simpler explanation which can be fixed, that would of course work for me! Kind Regards, Alice -----Original Message----- From: GENEALOGY-DNA [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: 10 October 2017 16:47 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DNA] Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem It is likely that your browser or some software addin is *unzipping* the file for you When you go to do the upload, look carefully at the file name that it is attempting to upload It should *not* be the file that ends in ".txt" that is not the file you want -----Original Message----- From: Genealice <[email protected]> To: genealogy-dna <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, Oct 10, 2017 6:06 am Subject: Re: [DNA] Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem I don't seem to have cracked this one. Just to make clear, I have downloaded the zip file from Ancestry and left it untouched. It won't upload and I get the same error message. 'Ancestry dna.txt' could not be uploaded. The file is an unsupported version or in a corrupt/malformed format. Please place an order for <https://www.familytreedna.com/products/family-finder> Family Finder or download the file and try again." I unzip and upload the file. I get the same error message. I have changed the headers I still get the same message. I think it would be logical to deduce, since other people have the same problem and others have not, that there might be something wrong with the particular Ancestry file as regards Family Tree DNA? I upload to Gedmatch and My Heritage without a problem. Can anyone can shed light on the matter? Kind Regards, Alice From: Genealice [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 08 October 2017 21:02 To: '[email protected]' Subject: Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem Hi, OK, I fully admit I joined this list because a problem has cropped up and I'm posting straightaway. But I hope it will be of interest to the mailing list and thank you for having me! I am trying to do an autosomal transfer, uploading an Ancestry.com raw data file to Family Tree DNA. However I keep on getting the following message "The specified file 'Ancestry dna.txt' could not be uploaded. The file is an unsupported version or in a corrupt/malformed format. Please place an order for Family Finder <https://www.familytreedna.com/products/family-finder> or download the file and try again." Looking on the FTDNA message boards this seems to be a common problem. There seem to a number of different theories over this: that is on FTDNA's side. That it is Ancestry.com and the files are smaller than they should be. That it is to do with the header. I have tried replacing the header with that suggested on the message board but it made no difference. I have posted it on Gedmatch with no problem at all but I understand it allows for more variations in the raw data. The header on the Ancestry data I have is as follows: #AncestryDNA raw data download #This file was generated by AncestryDNA at: 10/07/2017 01:20:13 UTC #Data was collected using AncestryDNA array version: V2.0 #Data is formatted using AncestryDNA converter version: V1.0 #Below is a text version of your DNA file from Ancestry.com DNA, LLC. THIS #INFORMATION IS FOR YOUR PERSONAL USE AND IS INTENDED FOR GENEALOGICAL RESEARCH #ONLY. IT IS NOT INTENDED FOR MEDICAL, DIAGNOSTIC, OR HEALTH PURPOSES. THE EXPORTED DATA IS #SUBJECT TO THE AncestryDNA TERMS AND CONDITIONS, BUT PLEASE BE AWARE THAT THE #DOWNLOADED DATA WILL NO LONGER BE PROTECTED BY OUR SECURITY MEASURES. #WHEN YOU DOWNLOAD YOUR RAW DNA DATA, YOU ASSUME ALL RISK OF STORING, #SECURING AND PROTECTING YOUR DATA. FOR MORE INFORMATION, SEE ANCESTRYDNA FAQS. # #Genetic data is provided below as five TAB delimited columns. Each line #corresponds to a SNP. Column one provides the SNP identifier (rsID where #possible). Columns two and three contain the chromosome and basepair position #of the SNP using human reference build 37.1 coordinates. Columns four and five #contain the two alleles observed at this SNP (genotype). The genotype is reported #on the forward (+) strand with respect to the human reference. rsid chromosome position allele1 allele2 I am not a tekkie and just want to get on Family Tree DNA. Can anyone help me with this? Thank you so much! Alice ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Jim, Thanks for your response. I have a Windows laptop. I downloaded the Ancestry file and did absolutely nothing to it and tried to upload it. Still the same message. The same file uploads fine into My Heritage. Kind Regards, Alice -----Original Message----- From: GENEALOGY-DNA [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim Bartlett Sent: 10 October 2017 14:39 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DNA] Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem Alice, The ".txt" extension means the file is unzipped. Do you have a Mac? There are special instructions for that - or borrow a PC. Jim Bartlett - atDNA blog: www.segmentology.org > On Oct 10, 2017, at 9:06 AM, Genealice <[email protected]> wrote: > > I don't seem to have cracked this one. Just to make clear, I have > downloaded the zip file from Ancestry and left it untouched. It won't > upload and I get the same error message. > > > > 'Ancestry dna.txt' could not be uploaded. The file is an unsupported > version or in a corrupt/malformed format. Please place an order for > <https://www.familytreedna.com/products/family-finder> Family Finder > or download the file and try again." > > > > I unzip and upload the file. I get the same error message. I have > changed the headers I still get the same message. I think it would be > logical to deduce, since other people have the same problem and others > have not, that there might be something wrong with the particular > Ancestry file as regards Family Tree DNA? I upload to Gedmatch and My Heritage without a problem. > > > > Can anyone can shed light on the matter? > > > > Kind Regards, > > Alice > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There are for sure gotchas in Liftover. For one, there are regions that are inverted between 19 and 38! If you lift over a region it may not tell you that! I found it out by breaking them up in pieces and discovering that the pieces came back in inverted order! I tried lifting over individual SNPs in that area and checking in both 19 and 38 BAM files, and all was well. I suggest lifting over only individual SNPs. As best I can tell BigY does not however assign SNPs there. I'm going to try to get new 38 VCF/BED/BAM files from all my BigY participants. If I fail for some people, old SNPs can, of course, still be assigned by name. NEW SNPs may appear on the FTDNA new web page, or can be assigned by phylogeny. Finally, as last resort, I will use a lift utility and check for proglems, which can be corrected by hand. NIGHTMARE. BUT ... there ARE things in the changed regions that MAY become reliable in 38. I know of several. Doug McDonald -----Original Message----- From: GENEALOGY-DNA [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ann Turner Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 7:15 AM To: DNA Genealogy Mailing List Subject: Re: [DNA] Family Tree DNA moves to Build 38 for the BigY I received a note off-list reminding me about the LiftOver tool at the UCSC Genome Browser website: https://genome.ucsc.edu/cgi-bin/hgLiftOver There has been some discussion on the mailing list for the ISOGG tree about whether there are some "gotchas" in that method, though. Dennis, could you review that method and see if it comes up with the same results? Ann Turner On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 4:06 AM, Ann Turner <[email protected]> wrote: > For step 3, do you mean that you (as a human being) are scanning the > adjustment table and doing a copy-and-paste? It seems like there could be > some formulas to automate that. > > Ann Turner > > On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 12:55 AM, Dennis Wright <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> For those that have a spreadsheet with a large number of SNPs presently >> showing hg19 positions, you are probably wondering what is involved in >> producing hg38 positions. Here is how I went about it. >> >> I have been able to organise my SNP positions with the help of the >> mutation page produced by Alex Williamson, http://www.ytree.net/hg19tohg3 >> 8.html. >> >> 1. I took the list of my 695 SNPs and pasted the hg19 positions into >> column A of a new spreadsheet. >> >> 2. Copy this list into Column D >> >> 2. Sort Column D from smallest to largest >> >> 3. In column E insert the adjustment specified in Alex's listing. As >> these are ranges, copying in the adjustments is quite quick, and this is >> the worst part of the whole procedure. >> >> 4. Calculate the new position in column F with a formula that adds or >> subtracts column E from column D as appropriate. >> >> 5. In column B, Cell B1, insert the formula =VLOOKUP(A1,D:F, 3,FALSE) >> and copy this formula to the bottom of your list of positions. >> >> 6. Column B now holds the hg38 positions of your SNPs in the order of >> your original list. Copy this Column, >> >> 7. 'Paste Special' choosing 'Values' to your original SNP listing >> spreadsheet and job is done! >> >> I hope this helps others do their conversions (Thanks Alex) >> >> Kind regards all! >> >> *Dennis Wright* >> Donnchadh Mac an tSaoir >> Irish Type III R-L226 > FGC12290 >> /"We are merely the present-day custodians of our Ancestors genes." >> >> >> / >> >> On 10/10/2017 9:09 AM, McDonald, J Douglas wrote: >> >>> I got a reply to a question about this. Its pretty clear. >>> >>> It says: >>> >>> >>> "Remapped vcf and BED files will be generated from the remapped BAM >>> files, though it may take a few days after the re-run is complete for them >>> to be available. >>> >>> A remapped downloadable BAM file will be available on request at some >>> point after the re-run. We do not yet know when that will be. >>> Those who have a hg19 BAM file will have to request a hg38 BAM file. We >>> won't automatically replace them. " >>> >>> That means that all the raw data, if you re-download all of it, will be >>> coherent. This is very good news >>> if its accurate. >>> >>> Doug McDonald >>> ________________________________________ >>> From: GENEALOGY-DNA >>> Dear All, >>> >>> Earlier today I received an e-mail from FTDNA that they will be moving >>> from >>> Build 37 to Build 38 for the BigY. >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I don't seem to have cracked this one. Just to make clear, I have downloaded the zip file from Ancestry and left it untouched. It won't upload and I get the same error message. 'Ancestry dna.txt' could not be uploaded. The file is an unsupported version or in a corrupt/malformed format. Please place an order for <https://www.familytreedna.com/products/family-finder> Family Finder or download the file and try again." I unzip and upload the file. I get the same error message. I have changed the headers I still get the same message. I think it would be logical to deduce, since other people have the same problem and others have not, that there might be something wrong with the particular Ancestry file as regards Family Tree DNA? I upload to Gedmatch and My Heritage without a problem. Can anyone can shed light on the matter? Kind Regards, Alice From: Genealice [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 08 October 2017 21:02 To: '[email protected]' Subject: Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem Hi, OK, I fully admit I joined this list because a problem has cropped up and I'm posting straightaway. But I hope it will be of interest to the mailing list and thank you for having me! I am trying to do an autosomal transfer, uploading an Ancestry.com raw data file to Family Tree DNA. However I keep on getting the following message "The specified file 'Ancestry dna.txt' could not be uploaded. The file is an unsupported version or in a corrupt/malformed format. Please place an order for Family Finder <https://www.familytreedna.com/products/family-finder> or download the file and try again." Looking on the FTDNA message boards this seems to be a common problem. There seem to a number of different theories over this: that is on FTDNA's side. That it is Ancestry.com and the files are smaller than they should be. That it is to do with the header. I have tried replacing the header with that suggested on the message board but it made no difference. I have posted it on Gedmatch with no problem at all but I understand it allows for more variations in the raw data. The header on the Ancestry data I have is as follows: #AncestryDNA raw data download #This file was generated by AncestryDNA at: 10/07/2017 01:20:13 UTC #Data was collected using AncestryDNA array version: V2.0 #Data is formatted using AncestryDNA converter version: V1.0 #Below is a text version of your DNA file from Ancestry.com DNA, LLC. THIS #INFORMATION IS FOR YOUR PERSONAL USE AND IS INTENDED FOR GENEALOGICAL RESEARCH #ONLY. IT IS NOT INTENDED FOR MEDICAL, DIAGNOSTIC, OR HEALTH PURPOSES. THE EXPORTED DATA IS #SUBJECT TO THE AncestryDNA TERMS AND CONDITIONS, BUT PLEASE BE AWARE THAT THE #DOWNLOADED DATA WILL NO LONGER BE PROTECTED BY OUR SECURITY MEASURES. #WHEN YOU DOWNLOAD YOUR RAW DNA DATA, YOU ASSUME ALL RISK OF STORING, #SECURING AND PROTECTING YOUR DATA. FOR MORE INFORMATION, SEE ANCESTRYDNA FAQS. # #Genetic data is provided below as five TAB delimited columns. Each line #corresponds to a SNP. Column one provides the SNP identifier (rsID where #possible). Columns two and three contain the chromosome and basepair position #of the SNP using human reference build 37.1 coordinates. Columns four and five #contain the two alleles observed at this SNP (genotype). The genotype is reported #on the forward (+) strand with respect to the human reference. rsid chromosome position allele1 allele2 I am not a tekkie and just want to get on Family Tree DNA. Can anyone help me with this? Thank you so much! Alice

Looking briefly at these perplexing problems… one thought is that depending on your computer and how it is set up, you may not actually see the suffix on the file name. Mentioning this just in case. You could save a file named Data.zip thinking it is a zip file, when the computer is actually adding .txt to the end so that the name is actually Data.zip.txt … Probably not what is going on but I did not notice this possibility being mentioned…. > On Oct 10, 2017, at 11:08 AM, [email protected] wrote: > > Send GENEALOGY-DNA mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists3.rootsweb.ancestry.com/mailman/listinfo/genealogy-dna > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of GENEALOGY-DNA digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem (Genealice) > 2. Re: Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem (Wjhonson) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2017 18:04:39 +0100 > From: Genealice <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [DNA] Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi, > > Thanks again for your interest. I've already done it several times so I can > give the answer straightaway: > > "The specified file 'Ancestry dna.txt' could not be uploaded. The file is an > unsupported version or in a corrupt/malformed format. Please place an order > for Family Finder <https://www.familytreedna.com/products/family-finder> or > download the file and try again." > > Unless the following thread on Family Tree DNA is misleading, there does > seem to be a problem with the Ancestry file. The size of the file I am > trying to upload is also 17,184 kb. I have downloaded it several times and > it is always the same size. According to this thread, the file should be > bigger. > http://66.249.108.88/showthread.php?t=41783&highlight=problem+Ancestry+autos > omal+transfer&page=14 > > -----Original Message----- > From: GENEALOGY-DNA [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Wjhonson > Sent: 10 October 2017 17:32 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [DNA] Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem > > Try the upload again, use the file that ends in .zip and report what error > it gives you > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Genealice <[email protected]> > To: genealogy-dna <[email protected]> > Sent: Tue, Oct 10, 2017 9:24 am > Subject: Re: [DNA] Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem > > Hi, > > > That's what I've been uploading ... I do have both - a zip file and a text > file from a separate zip file which I download. I've tried both the zip and > the text, downloading again from Ancestry. And I've just checked in my > Mozilla browser which I usually use and it is set on ask to unzip. > > Kind Regards, > Alice > > -----Original Message----- > From: GENEALOGY-DNA [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Wjhonson > Sent: 10 October 2017 16:58 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [DNA] Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem > > You should have a version of the same file name on your computer somewhere > without the ".txt" ending. > > It should have the ".zip" ending > > Have you tried a search on your computer? > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Genealice <[email protected]> > To: genealogy-dna <[email protected]> > Sent: Tue, Oct 10, 2017 8:55 am > Subject: Re: [DNA] Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem > > > Hi, > > Thanks for the response. I've tried it in both Mozilla and Internet > Explorer. How do I stop the browser unzipping it as text if that's what it > is|? I did manage to upload it to My Heritage without a problem. I have > is|to > say this does seem to be a problem for plenty of others as another > participant in this thread has indicated, but if there is a simpler > explanation which can be fixed, that would of course work for me! > > Kind Regards, > Alice > > -----Original Message----- > From: GENEALOGY-DNA [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Wjhonson > Sent: 10 October 2017 16:47 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [DNA] Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem > > It is likely that your browser or some software addin is *unzipping* the > file for you When you go to do the upload, look carefully at the file name > that it is attempting to upload It should *not* be the file that ends in > ".txt" that is not the file you want > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Genealice <[email protected]> > To: genealogy-dna <[email protected]> > Sent: Tue, Oct 10, 2017 6:06 am > Subject: Re: [DNA] Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem > > I don't seem to have cracked this one. Just to make clear, I have downloaded > the zip file from Ancestry and left it untouched. It won't upload and I get > the same error message. > > > > 'Ancestry dna.txt' could not be uploaded. The file is an unsupported version > or in a corrupt/malformed format. Please place an order for > <https://www.familytreedna.com/products/family-finder> Family Finder or > download the file and try again." > > > > I unzip and upload the file. I get the same error message. I have changed > the headers I still get the same message. I think it would be logical to > deduce, since other people have the same problem and others have not, that > there might be something wrong with the particular Ancestry file as regards > Family Tree DNA? I upload to Gedmatch and My Heritage without a problem. > > > > Can anyone can shed light on the matter? > > > > Kind Regards, > > Alice > > > > > > From: Genealice [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 08 October 2017 21:02 > To: '[email protected]' > Subject: Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem > > > > Hi, > > > > OK, I fully admit I joined this list because a problem has cropped up and > I'm posting straightaway. But I hope it will be of interest to the mailing > list and thank you for having me! > > > > I am trying to do an autosomal transfer, uploading an Ancestry.com raw data > file to Family Tree DNA. However I keep on getting the following message > > > > "The specified file 'Ancestry dna.txt' could not be uploaded. The file is an > unsupported version or in a corrupt/malformed format. Please place an order > for Family Finder <https://www.familytreedna.com/products/family-finder> or > download the file and try again." > > > > Looking on the FTDNA message boards this seems to be a common problem. There > seem to a number of different theories over this: that is on FTDNA's side. > That it is Ancestry.com and the files are smaller than they should be. That > it is to do with the header. I have tried replacing the header with that > suggested on the message board but it made no difference. > > > > I have posted it on Gedmatch with no problem at all but I understand it > allows for more variations in the raw data. > > > > The header on the Ancestry data I have is as follows: > > > > #AncestryDNA raw data download > > #This file was generated by AncestryDNA at: 10/07/2017 01:20:13 UTC > > #Data was collected using AncestryDNA array version: V2.0 > > #Data is formatted using AncestryDNA converter version: V1.0 > > #Below is a text version of your DNA file from Ancestry.com DNA, LLC. THIS > > #INFORMATION IS FOR YOUR PERSONAL USE AND IS INTENDED FOR GENEALOGICAL > RESEARCH > > #ONLY. IT IS NOT INTENDED FOR MEDICAL, DIAGNOSTIC, OR HEALTH PURPOSES. THE > EXPORTED DATA IS > > #SUBJECT TO THE AncestryDNA TERMS AND CONDITIONS, BUT PLEASE BE AWARE THAT > THE > > #DOWNLOADED DATA WILL NO LONGER BE PROTECTED BY OUR SECURITY MEASURES. > > #WHEN YOU DOWNLOAD YOUR RAW DNA DATA, YOU ASSUME ALL RISK OF STORING, > > #SECURING AND PROTECTING YOUR DATA. FOR MORE INFORMATION, SEE ANCESTRYDNA > FAQS. > > # > > #Genetic data is provided below as five TAB delimited columns. Each line > > #corresponds to a SNP. Column one provides the SNP identifier (rsID where > > #possible). Columns two and three contain the chromosome and basepair > position > > #of the SNP using human reference build 37.1 coordinates. Columns four and > five > > #contain the two alleles observed at this SNP (genotype). The genotype is > reported > > #on the forward (+) strand with respect to the human reference. > > rsid chromosome position allele1 allele2 > > > > I am not a tekkie and just want to get on Family Tree DNA. Can anyone help > me with this? > > > > Thank you so much! > > > > Alice > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2017 13:08:13 -0400 > From: Wjhonson <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [DNA] Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Instead of giving the answer straight away, try it again. > Verify that the file you are actually uploading actually ends with .zip > Don't assume you've been doing it right all this time > Assume you've been doing it wrong > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Genealice <[email protected]> > To: genealogy-dna <[email protected]> > Sent: Tue, Oct 10, 2017 10:05 am > Subject: Re: [DNA] Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem > > Hi, > > Thanks again for your interest. I've already done it several times so I can > give the answer straightaway: > > "The specified file 'Ancestry dna.txt' could not be uploaded. The file is an > unsupported version or in a corrupt/malformed format. Please place an order > for Family Finder <https://www.familytreedna.com/products/family-finder> or > download the file and try again." > > Unless the following thread on Family Tree DNA is misleading, there does > seem to be a problem with the Ancestry file. The size of the file I am > trying to upload is also 17,184 kb. I have downloaded it several times and > it is always the same size. According to this thread, the file should be > bigger. > http://66.249.108.88/showthread.php?t=41783&highlight=problem+Ancestry+autos > omal+transfer&page=14 > > -----Original Message----- > From: GENEALOGY-DNA [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Wjhonson > Sent: 10 October 2017 17:32 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [DNA] Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem > > Try the upload again, use the file that ends in .zip and report what error > it gives you > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Genealice <[email protected]> > To: genealogy-dna <[email protected]> > Sent: Tue, Oct 10, 2017 9:24 am > Subject: Re: [DNA] Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem > > Hi, > > > That's what I've been uploading ... I do have both - a zip file and a text > file from a separate zip file which I download. I've tried both the zip and > the text, downloading again from Ancestry. And I've just checked in my > Mozilla browser which I usually use and it is set on ask to unzip. > > Kind Regards, > Alice > > -----Original Message----- > From: GENEALOGY-DNA [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Wjhonson > Sent: 10 October 2017 16:58 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [DNA] Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem > > You should have a version of the same file name on your computer somewhere > without the ".txt" ending. > > It should have the ".zip" ending > > Have you tried a search on your computer? > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Genealice <[email protected]> > To: genealogy-dna <[email protected]> > Sent: Tue, Oct 10, 2017 8:55 am > Subject: Re: [DNA] Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem > > > Hi, > > Thanks for the response. I've tried it in both Mozilla and Internet > Explorer. How do I stop the browser unzipping it as text if that's what it > is|? I did manage to upload it to My Heritage without a problem. I have > is|to > say this does seem to be a problem for plenty of others as another > participant in this thread has indicated, but if there is a simpler > explanation which can be fixed, that would of course work for me! > > Kind Regards, > Alice > > -----Original Message----- > From: GENEALOGY-DNA [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Wjhonson > Sent: 10 October 2017 16:47 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [DNA] Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem > > It is likely that your browser or some software addin is *unzipping* the > file for you When you go to do the upload, look carefully at the file name > that it is attempting to upload It should *not* be the file that ends in > ".txt" that is not the file you want > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Genealice <[email protected]> > To: genealogy-dna <[email protected]> > Sent: Tue, Oct 10, 2017 6:06 am > Subject: Re: [DNA] Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem > > I don't seem to have cracked this one. Just to make clear, I have downloaded > the zip file from Ancestry and left it untouched. It won't upload and I get > the same error message. > > > > 'Ancestry dna.txt' could not be uploaded. The file is an unsupported version > or in a corrupt/malformed format. Please place an order for > <https://www.familytreedna.com/products/family-finder> Family Finder or > download the file and try again." > > > > I unzip and upload the file. I get the same error message. I have changed > the headers I still get the same message. I think it would be logical to > deduce, since other people have the same problem and others have not, that > there might be something wrong with the particular Ancestry file as regards > Family Tree DNA? I upload to Gedmatch and My Heritage without a problem. > > > > Can anyone can shed light on the matter? > > > > Kind Regards, > > Alice > > > > > > From: Genealice [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 08 October 2017 21:02 > To: '[email protected]' > Subject: Ancestry upload to Family Tree DNA - problem > > > > Hi, > > > > OK, I fully admit I joined this list because a problem has cropped up and > I'm posting straightaway. But I hope it will be of interest to the mailing > list and thank you for having me! > > > > I am trying to do an autosomal transfer, uploading an Ancestry.com raw data > file to Family Tree DNA. However I keep on getting the following message > > > > "The specified file 'Ancestry dna.txt' could not be uploaded. The file is an > unsupported version or in a corrupt/malformed format. Please place an order > for Family Finder <https://www.familytreedna.com/products/family-finder> or > download the file and try again." > > > > Looking on the FTDNA message boards this seems to be a common problem. There > seem to a number of different theories over this: that is on FTDNA's side. > That it is Ancestry.com and the files are smaller than they should be. That > it is to do with the header. I have tried replacing the header with that > suggested on the message board but it made no difference. > > > > I have posted it on Gedmatch with no problem at all but I understand it > allows for more variations in the raw data. > > > > The header on the Ancestry data I have is as follows: > > > > #AncestryDNA raw data download > > #This file was generated by AncestryDNA at: 10/07/2017 01:20:13 UTC > > #Data was collected using AncestryDNA array version: V2.0 > > #Data is formatted using AncestryDNA converter version: V1.0 > > #Below is a text version of your DNA file from Ancestry.com DNA, LLC. THIS > > #INFORMATION IS FOR YOUR PERSONAL USE AND IS INTENDED FOR GENEALOGICAL > RESEARCH > > #ONLY. IT IS NOT INTENDED FOR MEDICAL, DIAGNOSTIC, OR HEALTH PURPOSES. THE > EXPORTED DATA IS > > #SUBJECT TO THE AncestryDNA TERMS AND CONDITIONS, BUT PLEASE BE AWARE THAT > THE > > #DOWNLOADED DATA WILL NO LONGER BE PROTECTED BY OUR SECURITY MEASURES. > > #WHEN YOU DOWNLOAD YOUR RAW DNA DATA, YOU ASSUME ALL RISK OF STORING, > > #SECURING AND PROTECTING YOUR DATA. FOR MORE INFORMATION, SEE ANCESTRYDNA > FAQS. > > # > > #Genetic data is provided below as five TAB delimited columns. Each line > > #corresponds to a SNP. Column one provides the SNP identifier (rsID where > > #possible). Columns two and three contain the chromosome and basepair > position > > #of the SNP using human reference build 37.1 coordinates. Columns four and > five > > #contain the two alleles observed at this SNP (genotype). The genotype is > reported > > #on the forward (+) strand with respect to the human reference. > > rsid chromosome position allele1 allele2 > > > > I am not a tekkie and just want to get on Family Tree DNA. Can anyone help > me with this? > > > > Thank you so much! > > > > Alice > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > To contact the GENEALOGY-DNA list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the GENEALOGY-DNA mailing list, send an email to [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > ------------------------------ > > End of GENEALOGY-DNA Digest, Vol 12, Issue 678 > **********************************************

I have a 30cm segment that could only have come from an ancestor who died in 1747 -----Original Message----- From: Kitty Cooper <[email protected]> To: genealogy-dna <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, Oct 10, 2017 10:35 am Subject: Re: [DNA] Uncombined segments Nope, not even close, pretty normal in fact Angie Bush's daughter has an entire Chromosome 7 from a great grandparent, See http://blog.kittycooper.com/2014/09/using-the-chromosome-mapper-to-make-a-four-generation-inheritance-picture/ And I have many segments larger than 10 from ancestors in the 1600s, as I am sure others do On Oct 10, 2017 9:42 AM, "John Fletcher" <[email protected]> wrote: > I have a 10cM segment passed down through 4 generations (father of subject > to gdaughter of subject) unchanged. Is that a record? > John Fletcher > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message