List And the 2nd. page of 40 sequences. Ian www.ianlogan.co.uk ------------------------------------- //2 MF522881(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup K1a4i 21-OCT-2017 A73G A153G A263G 309.1C 315.1C C497T A750G T1189C A1438G A1811G A1926T A2706G A3480G A4769G C7028T A8860G G9055A T9698C A10398G A10550G T11299C A11467G T11485C G11719A A12308G G12372A T13830C C14167T C14766T T14798C A15326G T16093C T16224C T16311C T16519C MF522882(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup M7b1a2a 21-OCT-2017 A73G T199C A263G 309.1C 315.1C T489C A750G A1438G G1664A A2706G G4048A C4071T A4136G A4164G A4769G A5351G G5460A T6351C C6455T T6680C C7028T T7684C G7853A A8701G A8860G A9468G T9540C T9824C A10398G C10400T C10497T T10873C C11471T G11719A T12121C C12405T C12705T C14115T A14181G C14766T T14783C G15043A G15301A A15326G T16086C T16297C T16324C A16399G MF522883(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup K1a4i 21-OCT-2017 A73G A153G A263G 309.1C 315.1C C497T A750G T1189C A1438G A1811G A1926T A2706G A3480G A4769G C7028T A8860G G9055A T9698C A10398G A10550G T11299C A11467G T11485C G11719A A12308G G12372A T13830C C14167T C14766T T14798C A15326G T16093C T16224C T16311C T16519C MF522884(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup N9a1 21-OCT-2017 A73G C150T A263G 309.1C 315.1C A750G A1438G A2706G T3777C T4386C A4769G G5231A G5417A C7028T A8706G A8860G G11719A G12007A A12172G A12358G G12372A C12705T T14502W C14766T A15326G C16111T G16129A C16223T C16257A C16261T MF522885(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup I4b 21-OCT-2017 A73G T199C T204C T250C A263G 309.1C 315.1C 573.1C A750G A1438G G1719A A2308G A2706G A4021G G4113A A4529T A4769G C7028T G8251A C8468T G8519A A8860G T10034C T10238C A10398G G11719A G12501A C12705T C13662T A13780G C14766T G15043A A15326G A15924G G16129A C16223T T16271C G16391A T16519C MF522886(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup K1a4i 21-OCT-2017 A73G A153G A263G 309.1C 315.1C C497T A750G T1189C A1438G A1811G A1926T A2706G A3480G A4769G C7028T A8860G G9055A T9698C A10398G A10550G T11299C A11467G T11485C G11719A A12308G G12372A T13830C C14167T C14766T T14798C A15326G T16093C T16224C T16311C T16519C MF522887(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup D4j 21-OCT-2017 A73G A263G 309.1C 315.1C T489C A750G A1438G A2706G G3010A A4769G C4883T C5178A C7028T C8414T A8701G A8860G T9540C A10398G C10400T T10873C T10915C G11696A G11719A C12705T C14668T C14766T T14783C G15043A G15301A A15326G C16223T C16286T T16362C MF522888(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup C4b1 21-OCT-2017 A73G T146C A249- A263G 309.1C 315.1C T489C A750G A1438G 2232.1A A2706G T3552A A3816G A4715G A4769G G6026A C7028T C7196A G8251A G8584A A8701G A8860G T9540C A9545G A10398G C10400T T10873C G11719A G11914A G11969A C12705T A13263G T14318C C14766T T14783C G15043A T15204C G15301A A15326G A15487T C16223T T16298C C16327T T16519C MF522889(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup HV 21-OCT-2017 G103A A235G A263G 309.1C 315.1C A750G A1438G A2706G A3397G A4769G C7028T A8860G A14750G A15326G C16223T MF522890(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup D4c1a1 21-OCT-2017 A73G 191.1A C194T T199C G207A A263G 309.1C 315.1C T489C A750G A1438G G1719A A2706G C2766T G3010A G3391A A4769G C4883T C5178A C7028T C8414T A8701G A8860G G9477A T9540C G9755A A10398G C10400T T10873C G11719A C12705T C14668T C14766T T14783C G15043A G15301A A15326G C16245T T16362C MF522891(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup U5a1g 21-OCT-2017 A73G A263G 309.1C 315.1C A750G A1438G A2706G T3197C A4769G C7028T C7792T A8860G G9477A A10398G A11467G G11719A A12308G G12372A T13617C C14766T A14793G A15218G A15326G C16256T C16270T A16399G MF522892(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup T2g 21-OCT-2017 A73G A263G 309.1C 315.1C G709A A750G A1438G G1888A A2706G T4216C A4769G A4917G T5250C T5277C C7028T G8697A T8802C A8860G T9148C T10463C A11251G T11386C G11719A A11812G G13368A A14233G C14766T T14798C G14905A A15326G C15452A A15607G G15928A T16126C G16213A C16294T C16296T T16519C MF522893(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup C4a1 21-OCT-2017 A73G A249- A263G 309.1C 315.1C T489C A750G A1438G 2232.1A A2706G T3552A A4715G A4769G G6026A C7028T C7196A T7999C G8584A A8701G A8860G T9540C A9545G A10398G C10400T T10873C A11179G G11719A G11914A G11969A A12672G A13263G C13420Y T14318C C14766T T14783C G15043A T15204C G15301A A15326G A15487T G15734A G16129A C16223T T16298C C16327T T16519C MF522894(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup I4b 21-OCT-2017 A73G T199C T204C T250C A263G 309.1C 315.1C 573.1C A750G A1438G G1719A A2308G A2706G A4021G G4113A A4529T A4769G C7028T G8251A C8468T G8519A A8860G T10034C T10238C A10398G G11719A G12501A C12705T C13662T A13780G C14766T G15043A A15326G A15924G G16129A C16223T T16271C G16391A T16519C MF522895(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup D4h4a 21-OCT-2017 A73G C151T T152C A153R A263G 309.1C 315.1C T489C A644G A750G A1438G A2706G G3010A T3336C A3558G T3644C A4769G C4883T T5048C C5178A A5186G C5363T C7028T C8414T A8701G A8860G T9540C G10373A A10398G C10400T T10873C G11719A C12705T C14668T C14766T T14783C C15022T G15043A G15301A A15326G T16093C C16223T T16311C T16362C T16519C MF522896(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup T1a1b1 21-OCT-2017 A73G T152C T195C A263G 309.1C 315.1C G709A A750G A1438G G1888A A2706G T4216C A4769G A4917G C7028T C7715T G8697A A8860G G9548A T9899C G10143A T10463C A10682G A11251G G11719A T12028C C12633A G13368A C14281T C14766T G14905A A15326G C15452A A15607G G15928A T16126C A16163G C16186Y T16189C C16294T T16519C MF522897(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup U2b2 21-OCT-2017 A73G T146C A234G A263G 309.1C 315.1C A750G A1438G A1811G G1888A A4129G A4769G T5105C A5186T G5237A C7028T T8110C A8860G C9094T A11467G G11719A C12106T A12308G G12372A A12507G G13194A C14766T C15049T T15283C A15326G T15944- A16051G T16086C G16129A C16353T T16519C MF522898(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup K1a12a 21-OCT-2017 A73G T204C G207A A263G 309.1C 315.1C C497T A750G T1189C A1438G A1811G A2220G A2706G A3480G A4769G G5460A C7028T C7229T A8860G G9055A T9698C A10398G A10550G T11299C A11467G G11719A A11923G A12308G G12372A C12813T C14167T C14766T T14798C A15326G C15391G A15799G T16172C T16224C C16301T T16311C T16519C MF522899(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup M7b1a2a 21-OCT-2017 A73G T199C A263G 309.1C 315.1C T489C A750G A1438G G1664A A2706G G4048A C4071T A4136G A4164G A4769G A5351G G5460A T6351C C6455T T6680C C7028T T7684C G7853A A8701G A8860G A9468G T9540C T9824C A10398G C10400T C10497T T10873C C11471T G11719A T12121C C12405T C12705T C14115T A14181G C14766T T14783C G15043A G15301A A15326G T16086C T16297C T16324C A16399G MF522900(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup J1c1b1a 21-OCT-2017 A73G G185A G228A A263G C295T 309.1C 315.1C C462T T482C T489C A750G A1438G A2706G G3010A T3394C T4216C A4769G G5773A C7028T A7184G A8860G A10398G T10463C A11251G G11719A A12612G G13708A C14766T T14798C A15326G C15452A C16069T T16126C MF522901(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup D4j 21-OCT-2017 A73G A263G 309.1C 315.1C T489C A750G A1438G A2706G G3010A A4769G C4883T C5178A C7028T C8414T A8701G A8860G T9540C A10398G C10400T T10873C T10915C G11696A G11719A C12705T C14668T C14766T T14783C G15043A G15301A A15326G C16223T C16286T T16362C MF522902(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup T1a1b1 21-OCT-2017 A73G T152C T195C A263G 309.1C 315.1C G709A A750G A1438G G1888A A2706G T4216C A4769G A4917G C7028T C7715T G8697A A8860G G9548A T9899C G10143A T10463C A10682G A11251G G11719A T12028C C12633A G13368A C14281T C14766T G14905A A15326G C15452A A15607G G15928A T16126C A16163G C16186T T16189C C16294T T16519C MF522903(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup U4a1 21-OCT-2017 A73G T152C T195C A263G 309.1C 315.1C G499A A750G A1438G A1811G A2706G A3441G A4340G T4646C A4769G T5081C T5999C A6047G C7028T C8818T A8860G C11332T A11467G G11719A A12308G G12372A A12937G C14620T C14766T C15031T A15326G T15693C C16134T T16172C T16356C T16519C MF522904(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup K1a4i 21-OCT-2017 A73G A153G A263G 309.1C 315.1C C497T A750G T1189C A1438G A1811G A1926T A2706G A3480G A4769G C7028T A8860G G9055A T9698C A10398G A10550G T11299C A11467G T11485C G11719A A12308G G12372A T13830C C14167T C14766T T14798C A15326G T16093C T16224C T16311C T16519C MF522905(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup HV9 21-OCT-2017 A263G 309.1C 315.1C A750G A1438G A2706G A4769G A5009G C7028T A8860G G8994A A15326G T16311C MF522906(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup K1a12a 21-OCT-2017 A73G T204C G207A A263G 309.1C 315.1C C497T A750G T1189C A1438G A1811G A2220G A2706G A3480G A4769G G5460A C7028T C7229T A8860G G9055A T9698C A10398G A10550G T11299C A11467G G11719A A11923G A12308G G12372A C12813T C14167T C14766T T14798C A15326G C15391G A15799G A15859C T16172C T16224C C16301T T16311C T16519C MF522907(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup H6a1b 21-OCT-2017 T239C A263G 309.1C 315.1C A750G A1438G G3915A A4727G A4769G A8860G G9380A G10589A T15055C A15326G C16111T T16362C A16482G MF522908(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup N9a3 21-OCT-2017 A73G C150T A263G 309.1C 315.1C C522- A523- A750G A1438G A2706G A4129G A4769G A4913G G5231A G5417A C7028T A8860G G11719A T12354C A12358G G12372A A12612G C12636T C12705T C14766T A15326G G16129A A16183- T16189C 16193.1C C16223T C16257A C16261T T16311C MF522909(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup H 21-OCT-2017 T146C A263G 309.1C 315.1C A750G A1438G T4502C A4769G A8860G A12662G T14299C A15326G T16172C T16519C MF522910(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup U5a2a1 21-OCT-2017 A73G A263G 309.1C 315.1C C573T T593C A750G A1438G A2706G T3197C A4769G C7028T A8860G G9477A A11467G G11719A A12308G G12372A T13617C A13827G G13928C C14275T C14766T A14793G A15326G A15844G C16114A C16192T C16256T C16270T C16294T G16526A MF522911(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup B5b 21-OCT-2017 A73G G103A T146C T204C G228A A263G 309.1C 315.1C C522- A523- G709A A750G A1438G G1598A A2706G T4703C A4769G C6340T C7028T C7170T C8281- C8282- C8283- C8284- C8285- T8286- C8287- T8288- A8289- C8349T G8584A C8829T A8860G T9950C A10398G G11719A A12361G C14766T C15223T A15326G C15508T A15662G A15851G G15927A T16140C A16182- A16183- T16189C 16193.1C 16193.2C T16243C T16519C MF522912(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup R1a1 21-OCT-2017 A73G A263G C295A 309.1C 315.1C A750G T1391C A1438G A2706G G3736A A4026G A4769G A4917G C5586T A5823G C6557T T6671C C7028T A7424G T7547C G8027A T8388C C8562T A8860G A8887G A10658G A10825G G11719A C13948T C14632T C14766T A15326G T15721C T16311C T16519C MF522913(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup J1b1b1 21-OCT-2017 A73G A263G C295T 309.1C 315.1C C462T T489C C522- A523- A750G A1438G A2706G G3010A A3349G C3403T T4216C A4769G G5460A C5646T G6249R C7028T G8269A A8860G A10398G T10410A A11251G G11719A A12612G G13708A T13879C T14727C C14766T G15301A A15326G C15452A G15773A C16069T T16126C G16145A C16261T T16519C MF522914(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup T1a1b 21-OCT-2017 A73G T152C T195C A263G 309.1C 315.1C G709A A750G A1438G G1888A A2706G T4216C A4732G A4769G A4917G C7028T G8697A A8860G T9899C G10143A T10463C A11251G G11719A C12633A G13368A C14281T C14766T G14905A A15244T A15326G C15452A A15607G G15928A T16126C A16163G C16186T T16189C C16294T T16311C T16519C MF522915(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup D4j8 21-OCT-2017 A73G A263G 309.1C 315.1C T489C A750G A1438G A2706G G3010A A4769G C4883T C5178A C7028T C8414T A8701G A8860G T9540C T9661C A10398G C10400T T10873C G11696A G11719A C12705T C14668T C14766T T14783C G15043A G15301A A15326G C16174T C16223T T16362C MF522916(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup M7b1a1b 21-OCT-2017 A73G C150T T199C T204C T239C A263G 309.1C 315.1C T489C A750G A1438G A2706G G3483A G4048A C4071T A4164G A4769G A5351G G5460A C6455T T6680C C7028T T7684C G7853A A8701G A8860G T9540C T9824C A10398G C10400T T10873C G11719A C12405T C12705T T12811C C14766T T14783C G15043A G15301A A15326G C16223T C16256T A16272G T16297C MF522917(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup J1b2 21-OCT-2017 A73G A188G A234G C295T 309.1C 315.1C C462T T489C A750G A1438G C1733T A2706G G3010A T4216C A4769G G4991A C7028T G8269A A8860G A10398G A11251G G11719A C12585T A12612G G13708A C14766T A15326G C15452A C15978T C16069T T16126C G16145A C16222T C16261T MF522918(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup B4c1a2a 21-OCT-2017 A73G A263G 309.1C 315.1C G709A A750G T1119C A1438G A2706G C3497T A4769G C7028T C8281- C8282- C8283- C8284- C8285- T8286- C8287- T8288- A8289- A8860G G10310A G11719A A12373G C14766T A15326G G15346A T16092C A16182- A16183- T16189C 16193.1C 16193.2C T16217C T16519C C16527T MF522919(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup B4c1a2a 21-OCT-2017 A73G A263G 309.1C 315.1C G709A A750G T1119C A1438G A2706G C3497T A4769G C7028T C8281- C8282- C8283- C8284- C8285- T8286- C8287- T8288- A8289- A8860G G10310A G11719A A12373G C14766T A15326G G15346A T16092C A16182- A16183- T16189C 16193.1C 16193.2C T16217C T16519C C16527T MF522920(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup U1a1-G16129A 21-OCT-2017 A73G T146C A263G C285T 309.1C 315.1C A750G A1438G C2218T A2706G G3834A A4769G G4991A G6026A C7028T T7581C A8860G T8875C T10274C A11172G A11467G G11719A A12308G G12372A T12879C A12909G A13104G A14070G G14364A C14766T G15148A A15326G G15355A A15954C G16129A T16189C T16249C

It appears to be about 30. Check boxes until it stops. However, that may tax the FTDNA servers. Jim Bartlett - atDNA blog: www.segmentology.org > On Oct 26, 2017, at 11:25 AM, Michael Fisher <[email protected]> wrote: > > What is the limit on the number of matches in the FTDNA Triangulator ? > > I haven't reached it yet. > > Mike Fisher > > >> On 26/10/2017 16:05, Neil Story wrote: >> I’m not clear on whether the FTDNA Triangulator does more, less, or something different than Louis Kessler’s Double Match Triangulator (http://doublematchtriangulator.com). I have used and like the latter, and know that it doesn’t have a limit on the number of matches, and that it works with GEDmatch and 23andMe as well. Does anyone have insight on the relative merits of the two? Thank you. >> >> Neil Story >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I’m not clear on whether the FTDNA Triangulator does more, less, or something different than Louis Kessler’s Double Match Triangulator (http://doublematchtriangulator.com). I have used and like the latter, and know that it doesn’t have a limit on the number of matches, and that it works with GEDmatch and 23andMe as well. Does anyone have insight on the relative merits of the two? Thank you. Neil Story

wjhonson For those that show 1 message, have you received a reply to your message? Seems to be the pattern for me. I don't know why Ancestry seems incapable of linking sent messages to that display only the received Basically, I note when I've sent my intro in the notes rather than having to rely on the display, or having to search my Sent messages. Lorna Henderson http://LornaHen.com On 26/10/17 05:49, Wjhonson wrote: > I have done the Ancestry atDNA test. > Every day I look at my new matches and send them email. > > In looking back again, at people I've sent mail to, some of them show "1 message sent" and some of them show nothing in that spot. > > If I look at my Sent messages, I do see that I sent a message > > I wonder if people who don't subscribe, don't get mail? > > Or what? > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

List A very impressive set of 382 mtDNA sequences from the Pamiris mountain area has appeared on the GenBank database. The sequences are to accompany the paper (unpublished so far): 'Mitochondrial Genomes Uncover the Maternal History of the Pamir Populations' Peng,M.-S., Song,J.-J. and Zhang,Y.-P. The sequences appear to come from European, Eurasian and East Asian populations; so it will be interesting to see what the paper says. As usual I have added the sequences to my 'Checker' program to show the sequences are correctly transcribed. (After deleting a spurious 3107N mutation in each FASTA file.) Ian www.ianlogan.co.uk -------------------- MF522841(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup H8b 21-OCT-2017 C114T T146C T195C T252Y A263G 309.1C 315.1C C456Y G709A A750G A1438G A4769G A7765G A8860G A12490G A13101C G15301A A15326G T16288C T16362C MF522842(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup C4a1 21-OCT-2017 A73G A249- A263G 309.1C 315.1C T489C A750G A1438G 2232.1A A2706G T3552A A4715G A4769G G6026A C7028T C7196A T7999C G8584A A8701G A8860G T9540C A9545G A10398G C10400T T10873C A11179G G11719A G11914A G11969A A12672G A13263G T14318C C14766T T14783C G15043A T15204C G15301A A15326G A15487T G15734A G16129A C16223T T16298C C16327T T16519C MF522843(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup N9a3 21-OCT-2017 A73G C150T A263G 309.1C 315.1C C522- A523- A750G A1438G A2706G A4129G A4769G A4913G G5231A G5417A C7028T A8860G G11719A T12354C A12358G G12372A A12612G C12636T C12705T C14766T A15326G G16129A T16189C C16223T C16257A C16261T T16311C MF522844(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup U5b2 21-OCT-2017 A73G C150T T152C A263G C264T 309.1C 315.1C A547G A750G A1438G C1721T A2706G T3197C T4080C A4158G A4769G C7028T A7768G A8860G G9139A G9477A A11084G A11467G G11719A A12308G G12372A T13617C A13637G T14182C T14199C A14409G C14766T A15326G T15862C C16192T C16270T MF522845(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup J1d 21-OCT-2017 44.1C A73G T146C T152C A263G C295T 309.1C 315.1C C462T T489C A750G A1438G A2706G G3010A T4216C A4769G C7028T G7789A A7963G A8101G T8143C A8860G A10398G C11089T A11251G G11719A A12612G G13708A C14766T A15326G C15452A C16069T T16126C C16193T T16519C MF522846(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup N9a3 21-OCT-2017 A73G C150T A263G 309.1C 315.1C A750G A1438G A2706G A4129G A4769G A4913G G5231A G5417A C7028T A8860G G11719A T12354C A12358G G12372A A12612G C12636T C12705T C14766T A15326G G16129A C16223T C16257A C16261T MF522847(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup N9a1 21-OCT-2017 A73G C150T A263G 309.1C 315.1C A750G A1438G A2706G T3777C T4386C A4769G G5231A G5417A C7028T A8706G A8860G G11719A G12007A A12172G A12358G G12372A C12705T C14766T A15326G C16111T G16129A C16223T C16257A C16261T MF522848(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup T2g 21-OCT-2017 C64Y A73G A263G 309.1C 315.1C G709A A750G A1438G G1888A A2706G T4216C A4769G A4917G T5250C T5277C C7028T G8697A T8802C A8860G T9148C T10463C A11251G T11386C G11719A A11812G G13368A A14233G C14766T T14798C G14905A A15326G C15452A A15607G G15928A T16126C G16213A C16294T C16296T T16519C MF522849(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup C4b1 21-OCT-2017 A73G T146C A249- A263G 309.1C 315.1C T489C A750G A1438G 2232.1A A2706G T3552A A3816G A4715G A4769G G6026A C7028T C7196A G8251A G8584A A8701G A8860G T9540C A9545G A10398G C10400T T10873C G11719A G11914A G11969A C12705T A13263G T14318C C14766T T14783C G15043A T15204C G15301A A15326G A15487T C16223T T16298C C16327T T16519C MF522850(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup C4b1 21-OCT-2017 A73G T146C A249- A263G 309.1C 315.1C T489C A750G A1438G 2232.1A A2706G T3552A A3816G A4715G A4769G G6026A C7028T C7196A G8251A G8584A A8701G A8860G T9540C A9545G A10398G C10400T T10873C G11719A G11914A G11969A C12705T A13263G T14318C T14502W C14766T T14783C G15043A T15204C G15301A A15326G A15487T C16223T T16298C C16327T T16519C MF522851(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup H41 21-OCT-2017 C262T A263G 309.1C 315.1C A750G A1438G C3208T A4769G G5460A T6392C A8860G T10124C G12630A A15326G G15617A MF522852(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup M30 21-OCT-2017 A73G T195A A263G 309.1C 315.1C T489C C522- A523- A750G A1438G A2706G C4394T G4491A A4769G C7028T A8701G A8860G T9540C A10398G C10400T T10873C G11719A G12007A A12451G C12705T C14766T T14783C G15043A G15301A A15326G G15431A T16093C C16223T T16519C MF522853(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup D4s 21-OCT-2017 A73G T199C A263G 309.1C 315.1C T489C A750G A813G A1438G A2706G G3010A A4769G C4883T C5178A C7028T C8414T A8701G A8860G T9540C A10398G C10400T T10873C G11719A C12705T C14668T C14766T T14783C G15043A G15301A A15326G G15734A G16145A C16223T C16295T T16362C T16519C MF522854(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup D4n2 21-OCT-2017 A73G T195C A263G 309.1C 315.1C T489C A750G A1438G A2706G G3010A G3421A A4769G C4883T C5178A A6704G C7028T C8414T A8701G A8860G T9540C A10398G C10400T T10873C G11719A C12705T C14668T C14766T T14783C G15043A G15301A A15326G A16171T C16223T C16355A T16362C MF522855(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup F3a1 21-OCT-2017 A73G T204C G207A A249- A263G 309.1C 315.1C G709A A750G A1438G A2706G A3434G C3970T A4769G G5585A A5894G G5913A A5978G T6392C C7028T A8860G T9854C G10310A G10320A A10499G A11065G G11719A C12621T G13928C C14766T T14971C A15326G T15943C C16260T T16298C C16355T T16362C MF522856(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup Z3c 21-OCT-2017 A73G T152C A214G A249- A263G 309.1C 315.1C T489C G709A A750G A1438G A2706G G3745A A4715G A4769G G4853A A6752G C7028T C7196A G8584A A8701G A8860G T9090C T9540C T10208C A10398G C10400T T10873C G11719A C12705T C14766T T14783C G15043A T15300C G15301A A15326G A15487T T15784C C16185T C16223T C16260T T16298C MF522857(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup H2a1a 21-OCT-2017 A263G 309.1C 315.1C A750G G951A C6173T A8860G T13095C A15326G C16354T MF522858(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup U5a2a1 21-OCT-2017 A73G A263G 309.1C 315.1C C573T A750G A1438G A2706G T3197C A4769G C7028T A8860G G9477A A11467G G11719A A12308G G12372A T13617C A13827G G13928C C14275T C14766T A14793G A15326G A15844G C16114A C16192T C16256T C16270T C16294T G16526A MF522859(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup D4j1b 21-OCT-2017 A73G A263G 309.1C 315.1C T489C A750G A1438G C1734T A2706G G3010A A4769G C4883T C5178A G5262A C7028T A7055G C8414T A8701G A8860G T9540C A10398G C10400T T10873C T11009C G11696A G11719A C12705T C14668T C14766T T14783C G15043A G15301A A15326G C16223T T16311C T16362C MF522860(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup HV6 21-OCT-2017 A263G 309.1C 315.1C T711C A750G A1438G A2706G A3360G A4769G G6755A C7028T A8860G A15326G T16172C T16311C MF522861(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup 4b1 21-OCT-2017 A73G T146C A249- A263G 309.1C 315.1C T489C A750G A1438G 2232.1A A2706G T3552A A3816G A4715G A4769G G6026A C7028T C7196A G8251A G8584A A8701G A8860G T9540C A9545G A10398G C10400T T10873C G11719A G11914A G11969A C12705T A13263G T14318C C14766T T14783C G15043A T15204C G15301A A15326G A15487T C16223T T16298C C16327T T16519C MF522862(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup J1c1b1a 21-OCT-2017 A73G G185A G228A A263G C295T 309.1C 315.1C C462T T482C T489C A750G A1438G A2706G G3010A T3394C T4216C A4769G G5773A C7028T A7184G A8860G A10398G T10463C A11251G G11719A A12612G G13708A C14766T T14798C A15326G C15452A C16069T T16126C MF522863(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup K1a4i 21-OCT-2017 A73G A153G A263G 309.1C 315.1C C497T A750G T1189C A1438G A1811G A1926T A2706G A3480G A4769G C7028T A8860G G9055A T9698C A10398G A10550G T11299C A11467G T11485C G11719A A12308G G12372A T13830C C14167T C14766T T14798C A15326G T16093C T16224C T16311C T16519C MF522864(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup H8b 21-OCT-2017 C114T T146C T195C T252Y A263G 309.1C 315.1C G709A A750G A1438G A4769G A7765G A8860G A12490G A13101C G15301A A15326G T16288C T16362C MF522865(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup G2a2 21-OCT-2017 A73G T152C A263G 309.1C 315.1C T489C C522- A523- G709A T711C A750G A1438G A2706G A4769G A4833G T5108C C5601T C7028T G7600A A8701G A8860G C8943T A9377G T9540C G9575A A10398G C10400T T10873C G11719A C12705T A13563G G14569A C14766T T14783C G15043A G15110A G15301A A15326G C16223T A16227G C16278T T16362C T16519C MF522866(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup M5a 21-OCT-2017 A73G T152C A200G A263G 309.1C 315.1C T489C G709A A750G A1438G G1888A A2706G C3921T A4769G C7028T A8701G A8860G A9468G T9540C A10398G C10400T T10873C G11719A T12477C C12705T G14323A C14766T T14783C G15043A G15301A A15326G G16129A C16223T T16356C T16519C MF522867(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup U5a1b 21-OCT-2017 A73G A263G 309.1C 315.1C A750G A1438G A2706G T3197C A4769G C7028T A8860G G9477A A9667G A11467G G11719A A12308G G12372A T13617C C14766T A14793G A15218G A15326G C16192T C16256T C16270T A16399G MF522868(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup C5b1a1 21-OCT-2017 A73G A249- A263G 309.1C 315.1C T489C 595.1C A750G A1438G 1718.1A A2706G A3397G T3552A A4715G A4769G C7028T C7196A G8584A A8701G A8860G T9233C T9540C A9545G A10398G C10400T T10873C G11719A G11914A C12705T A13263G T14318C C14766T T14783C G15043A G15301A A15326G A15487T C16148T C16223T T16288C T16298C C16327T T16519C MF522869(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup D4h4a 21-OCT-2017 A73G C151T T152C A153G A263G 309.1C 315.1C T489C A644G A750G A1438G A2706G G3010A T3336C A3558G T3644C A4769G C4883T T5048C C5178A A5186G C5363T C7028T C8414T A8701G A8860G T9540C G10373A A10398G C10400T T10873C G11719A C12705T C14668T C14766T T14783C C15022T G15043A G15301A A15326G T16093C C16223T T16311C T16362C T16519C MF522870(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup HV9 21-OCT-2017 A263G 309.1C 315.1C A750G A1438G A2706G A4769G A5009G C7028T A8860G G8994A A15326G T16311C MF522871(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup F1g 21-OCT-2017 A73G A249- A263G 309.1C 315.1C A750G A1438G C2389T A2706G T3398C G3421A C3970T A4769G T6392C G6962A C7028T A8860G G10310A T10609C G11719A G12406A C12882T G13928C C14766T A15326G T16189C T16304C T16519C MF522872(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup G2b2 21-OCT-2017 A73G A263G 309.1C 315.1C T489C G709A A750G A1438G A2706G A4769G A4833G T5108C C5601T T5641C A6932G C7028T A8701G A8860G T8877C T9540C A10398G C10400T T10873C G11719A T11809C T11984C C12705T A13563G G14569A C14766T T14783C G15043A G15301A A15326G C16223T T16362C T16519C MF522873(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup H16-T152C 21-OCT-2017 T152C A263G 309.1C 315.1C A750G A1438G A4769G A8860G C10394T A15326G T16519C MF522874(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup A17 21-OCT-2017 A73G C151T T152C A235G A263G 309.1C 315.1C C522- A523- A663G A750G A1438G A1736G C1833T A2706G G4113A T4248C A4769G A4824G A5514G C7028T C8794T A8860G T9126C G11719A C12705T T13965C A14251G C14766T G15217A A15326G C16223T A16235G C16290T T16311C G16319A T16362C T16519C MF522875(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup F3a1 21-OCT-2017 A73G T204C G207A A249- A263G 309.1C 315.1C G709A A750G A1438G A2706G A3434G C3970T A4769G G5585A A5894G G5913A A5978G T6392C C7028T A8860G T9854C G10310A G10320A A10499G A11065G G11719A C12621T G13928C C14766T T14971C A15326G T15943C C16260T T16298C C16355T T16362C MF522876(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup D1j1 21-OCT-2017 A73G A263G 309.1C 315.1C T489C A750G A1438G C1734T A2706G G3010A A4769G C4883T C5178A G5262A C7028T A7055G C8414T A8701G A8860G T9540C A10398G C10400T T10873C T11009C G11696A G11719A C12705T C14668T C14766T T14783C G15043A G15301A A15326G C16223T T16311C T16362C MF522877(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup M30 21-OCT-2017 A73G T195A A263G 309.1C 315.1C T489C C522- A523- A750G A1438G A2706G C4394T G4491A A4769G C7028T A8701G A8860G T9540C A10398G C10400T T10873C G11719A G12007A A12451G C12705T C14766T T14783C G15043A G15301A A15326G G15431A T16093C C16223T T16519C MF522878(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup J1b1a1 21-OCT-2017 A73G T146C C242T A263G C295T 309.1C 315.1C T333C C462T T489C A750G A1438G T2158C A2706G G3010A T4216C A4769G G5460A C7028T G8269A G8557A A8860G A10398G A11251G G11719A G12007A A12612G G13708A T13879C C14766T A15326G C15452A C16069T T16126C G16145A T16172C C16222T C16261T MF522879(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup HV9 21-OCT-2017 A263G 309.1C 315.1C A750G A1438G A2706G A4769G A5009G C7028T A8860G G8994A A15326G T16311C MF522880(Pamir) Peng Haplogroup F1e2 21-OCT-2017 A73G A189G T195C A249- A263G 309.1C 315.1C C522- A523- A750G A1438G A2706G C3970T A4769G T5587C T6392C G6962A C7028T A8860G T9078C G10310A T10609C G10653A C11326T G11719A G12406A C12882T G13928C T14218C C14766T G15024A A15326G A16182- A16183- T16189C 16193.1C 16193.2C C16234T C16242T T16304C T16311C T16519C

Thank you! Doris On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 5:09 PM, Marleen Van Horne <[email protected]> wrote: > Doris, > > I selected a person, selected ICW, then clicked the Triangulator button > and ran the Triangulator. I did not make any selections for the chromosome > browser. > > > Marleen Van Horne > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Here is the response from Goran Runstrom: "Hi Ann & Marleen! I'll be brief here, as my current Internet connection is not the best. My email address is in the About tab of the triangulator, in case Marleen wants to email me directly. I will have a look at the problem with the tool not working when doing ICW without selecting any matches. My intention was to limit the number of triangulated matches to 31 (The main person plus the limit of 30 matches on a page). Perhaps it somehow allows more users to be triangulated, which is unintentional and not tested properly. The number of FTDNA server requests per number of triangulated matches is not square but n(n-1)/2, so 31 users would mean 465 requests. In order to not hammer the FTDNA servers all request parallelism is disabled and there is a 1 second delay between requests, so a triangulation run of 31 users should take around 10 minutes. You can triangulate a set of more than 5 matches by running the triangulator tool once, which will unlock the FTDNA selection limit of 5 users. You can then close the tool window and select up to 30 matches and run the triangulator again. Will post an update when I've had the time to do some testing myself." The reference to "square" is in response to a comment in my post. What I meant to say was that if a run with 30 kits takes 10 minutes, then a run with 60 kits would take 40 minutes (not 20 minutes). Ann Turner On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 11:28 AM, Ann Turner <[email protected]> wrote: > I can post your message on the ISOGG Facebook page. The programmer can > probably add a graceful way to stop at 30 and retain what has been analyzed > to that point. However, it may not be practical to triangulate such large > groups, and the programmer might want to throttle the number to an even > lower number. The number of pairwise comparisons required grows > exponentially, and the FTDNA servers would get hammered fetching all that > data. > > Ann Turner > > On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 10:02 AM, Marleen Van Horne <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> As a retired systems analyst who specialized in designing, building and >> analyzing the results of test systems for computer software, I think I have >> found a defect in the FTDNA Triangulator. >> >> Since I have 2895 Family Finder matches, I chose not to use the >> chromosome browser for triangulation, instead, I chose to use the IN COMMON >> WITH tool and run the Triangulation tool on the entire ICW group. This >> works without any problems, if your ICW group has 30 members or less. This >> is the number of matches displayed on the FTDNA page. >> >> If, however, your ICW group has more than 30 sets of test results, the >> Triangulation tool stops working, it hangs up, you cannot close the tool, >> the only way to gain control of your screen is to back out of the page >> completely. You can then go back into Family Finder, but you have no >> results for the triangulation run. >> >> The Triangulation tool knows how many records have been selected, but >> under "Matches to triangulate" the most it lists is 31. It stops with the >> 30th record, even though you have 80 records in the ICW group. There is no >> way to triangulate part of an ICW group, so that you can copy the parts to >> Excel and sort them. >> >> This is not a lack of understanding on how to use the tool, the tool just >> stops running when you get to the31st record. I do not use Facebook, so I >> do not know where to report the problem. >> >> Marleen Van Horne >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >

I took the survey; thank you for the heads-up... very important issue! On Wednesday, October 25, 2017, Doris Wheeler <[email protected]> wrote: > I don't either, Stephanie, but I do try to Google keywords if it's > something that interests me. > > I am sorry about your phone. We live in a dangerous world. > > Doris > > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 12:42 PM, Stephanie Ray <[email protected] > <javascript:;>> > wrote: > > > I'm sorry, but I do not trust links from unsolicited email. I just > > clicked on a link in a text message claiming to be from PETA, and it > > wiped out my phone. Now it will not start up. > > > > Stephanie > > > > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 6:36 AM, Doris Wheeler <[email protected] > <javascript:;>> wrote: > > > I hope all genealogists will support the effort to fight the new rules > > > being proposed by New York City to suppress birth and death records for > > an > > > unconscionable time. > > > > > > Today is the deadline! > > > > > > Please add your comments. There were only 69 comments recorded on the > NYC > > > site when I submitted mine just now. Reclaim the Records has now joined > > > this effort: > > > http://mailchi.mp/reclaimtherecords/bfvk8vew84-1591025?e=870dddccca. > > > > > > Doris > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] <javascript:;> with the word > 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] <javascript:;> with the word > 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] <javascript:;> with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Ah. Maybe that display is how many messages they have sent to you, not how many you have sent to them. I suppose I could find one with many messages and count them manually. -----Original Message----- From: LornaMoa <[email protected]> To: genealogy-dna <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, Oct 25, 2017 1:04 pm Subject: Re: [DNA] Ancestry not forwarding messages to ... non-members ? wjhonson For those that show 1 message, have you received a reply to your message? Seems to be the pattern for me. I don't know why Ancestry seems incapable of linking sent messages to that display only the received Basically, I note when I've sent my intro in the notes rather than having to rely on the display, or having to search my Sent messages. Lorna Henderson http://LornaHen.com On 26/10/17 05:49, Wjhonson wrote: > I have done the Ancestry atDNA test. > Every day I look at my new matches and send them email. > > In looking back again, at people I've sent mail to, some of them show "1 message sent" and some of them show nothing in that spot. > > If I look at my Sent messages, I do see that I sent a message > > I wonder if people who don't subscribe, don't get mail? > > Or what? > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Please excuse my ignorance, Marleen. How are you manipulating more than five at once? To use this new tool, I first run ICW, then select five at a time to run the Triangulator. What am I missing? Thank you. Doris On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 1:02 PM, Marleen Van Horne <[email protected]> wrote: > As a retired systems analyst who specialized in designing, building and > analyzing the results of test systems for computer software, I think I have > found a defect in the FTDNA Triangulator. > > Since I have 2895 Family Finder matches, I chose not to use the chromosome > browser for triangulation, instead, I chose to use the IN COMMON WITH tool > and run the Triangulation tool on the entire ICW group. This works without > any problems, if your ICW group has 30 members or less. This is the number > of matches displayed on the FTDNA page. > > If, however, your ICW group has more than 30 sets of test results, the > Triangulation tool stops working, it hangs up, you cannot close the tool, > the only way to gain control of your screen is to back out of the page > completely. You can then go back into Family Finder, but you have no > results for the triangulation run. > > The Triangulation tool knows how many records have been selected, but > under "Matches to triangulate" the most it lists is 31. It stops with the > 30th record, even though you have 80 records in the ICW group. There is no > way to triangulate part of an ICW group, so that you can copy the parts to > Excel and sort them. > > This is not a lack of understanding on how to use the tool, the tool just > stops running when you get to the31st record. I do not use Facebook, so I > do not know where to report the problem. > > Marleen Van Horne > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Doris, I selected a person, selected ICW, then clicked the Triangulator button and ran the Triangulator. I did not make any selections for the chromosome browser. Marleen Van Horne

I agree with Tim. However, not all of us have the luxury of having parents to test, and this, though clunky, can work. Add my name to the list of those clamoring for automated matches from FTDNA... and Ancestry! Doris Wheeler On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 4:06 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear All, > It is nice to have a new tool, but the method I have been using for the > past 7 years is still working very well for me and is much more efficient > in my opinion. I download all the matching HIR for my parents and me and > then organize the matching HIR data into which HIRs are shared with me and > which ones I don't have. This is a very quick and effective way of creating > triangulated groups (at least for all HIRs over 15 cMs or so). Caution must > be used for this method when evaluating shorter HIRs, particularly HIRs > shorter than 10 cMs, since some of those will be false matches. I still > think that we should all keep encouraging FTDNA to allow us to compare our > matches directly to each other in Family Finder like we can at 23andMe and > at GEDmatch. > Sincerely, > Tim Janzen > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Andreas West" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 7:43:53 AM > Subject: Re: [DNA] Where is the 3rd side? (Was: New FTDNA Triangulation > tool > > The new tool has some quirks though, especially visible when you have a > larger group of triangulated members. It seems to copy over the > combinations of matching pairs (of DNA cousins) as some of the DNA cousins > have smaller matching segments (than the overall TG). It gets quite > confusing and convulates the spreadsheet a lot. > > BTW, seems the FTDNA page can’t handle the additional traffic anymore. The > site is currently not responding for me (might be better if you’re based in > the US) > > Andreas > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I don't either, Stephanie, but I do try to Google keywords if it's something that interests me. I am sorry about your phone. We live in a dangerous world. Doris On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 12:42 PM, Stephanie Ray <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm sorry, but I do not trust links from unsolicited email. I just > clicked on a link in a text message claiming to be from PETA, and it > wiped out my phone. Now it will not start up. > > Stephanie > > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 6:36 AM, Doris Wheeler <[email protected]> wrote: > > I hope all genealogists will support the effort to fight the new rules > > being proposed by New York City to suppress birth and death records for > an > > unconscionable time. > > > > Today is the deadline! > > > > Please add your comments. There were only 69 comments recorded on the NYC > > site when I submitted mine just now. Reclaim the Records has now joined > > this effort: > > http://mailchi.mp/reclaimtherecords/bfvk8vew84-1591025?e=870dddccca. > > > > Doris > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have done the Ancestry atDNA test. Every day I look at my new matches and send them email. In looking back again, at people I've sent mail to, some of them show "1 message sent" and some of them show nothing in that spot. If I look at my Sent messages, I do see that I sent a message I wonder if people who don't subscribe, don't get mail? Or what?

Ann, Thank you. Yes, I realize it is heavy useage, but that is what computers are for, and it sure beats triangulating 2895 matches, five at a time. Even if it was designed to triangulate an ICW group one page at a time, the results could be merged in an Excel spreadsheet. It would be better for the user if they could all be done at once. Thanks again, Marleen Van Horne

I can post your message on the ISOGG Facebook page. The programmer can probably add a graceful way to stop at 30 and retain what has been analyzed to that point. However, it may not be practical to triangulate such large groups, and the programmer might want to throttle the number to an even lower number. The number of pairwise comparisons required grows exponentially, and the FTDNA servers would get hammered fetching all that data. Ann Turner On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 10:02 AM, Marleen Van Horne <[email protected]> wrote: > As a retired systems analyst who specialized in designing, building and > analyzing the results of test systems for computer software, I think I have > found a defect in the FTDNA Triangulator. > > Since I have 2895 Family Finder matches, I chose not to use the chromosome > browser for triangulation, instead, I chose to use the IN COMMON WITH tool > and run the Triangulation tool on the entire ICW group. This works without > any problems, if your ICW group has 30 members or less. This is the number > of matches displayed on the FTDNA page. > > If, however, your ICW group has more than 30 sets of test results, the > Triangulation tool stops working, it hangs up, you cannot close the tool, > the only way to gain control of your screen is to back out of the page > completely. You can then go back into Family Finder, but you have no > results for the triangulation run. > > The Triangulation tool knows how many records have been selected, but > under "Matches to triangulate" the most it lists is 31. It stops with the > 30th record, even though you have 80 records in the ICW group. There is no > way to triangulate part of an ICW group, so that you can copy the parts to > Excel and sort them. > > This is not a lack of understanding on how to use the tool, the tool just > stops running when you get to the31st record. I do not use Facebook, so I > do not know where to report the problem. > > Marleen Van Horne > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

As a retired systems analyst who specialized in designing, building and analyzing the results of test systems for computer software, I think I have found a defect in the FTDNA Triangulator. Since I have 2895 Family Finder matches, I chose not to use the chromosome browser for triangulation, instead, I chose to use the IN COMMON WITH tool and run the Triangulation tool on the entire ICW group. This works without any problems, if your ICW group has 30 members or less. This is the number of matches displayed on the FTDNA page. If, however, your ICW group has more than 30 sets of test results, the Triangulation tool stops working, it hangs up, you cannot close the tool, the only way to gain control of your screen is to back out of the page completely. You can then go back into Family Finder, but you have no results for the triangulation run. The Triangulation tool knows how many records have been selected, but under "Matches to triangulate" the most it lists is 31. It stops with the 30th record, even though you have 80 records in the ICW group. There is no way to triangulate part of an ICW group, so that you can copy the parts to Excel and sort them. This is not a lack of understanding on how to use the tool, the tool just stops running when you get to the31st record. I do not use Facebook, so I do not know where to report the problem. Marleen Van Horne

A solution to that long thread about problems uploading recent AncestryDNA v2 files has been posted on the FTDNA forum http://forums.familytreedna.com/showpost.php?p=444724&postcount=173 ChrisBonisa developed this tool, and reports on the forum are favorable http://www.mapmy23.com/tools/ancestry_ftdna_fix.php Ann Turner

The new tool has some quirks though, especially visible when you have a larger group of triangulated members. It seems to copy over the combinations of matching pairs (of DNA cousins) as some of the DNA cousins have smaller matching segments (than the overall TG). It gets quite confusing and convulates the spreadsheet a lot. BTW, seems the FTDNA page can’t handle the additional traffic anymore. The site is currently not responding for me (might be better if you’re based in the US) Andreas Andreas West Meine Vorfahren / my ancestors (8 generations): http://www.wikitree.com/treewidget/Basso-23/5 <http://www.wikitree.com/treewidget/Basso-23/5> Author of https://www.dnagenealogy.tools <https://www.dnagenealogy.tools/> Follow us on Facebook for latest updates on our progress - https://www.facebook.com/dnagenealogy.tools/ <https://www.facebook.com/dnagenealogy.tools/> > On Oct24, 2017, at 21:49, John McCoy <[email protected]> wrote: > > The test we want to see from the new tool is not the confirmation of a known triangulation group. Rather, we want to see what happens when the two sides who appear to share a segment actually don’t match each other, because one is a paternal cousin and the other a maternal cousin. If the new tool can correctly determine that those two sides do not match each other, then the tool does in fact have access to the missing third side. > > John McCoy > ([email protected]) > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Oct 24, 2017, at 6:32 AM, Andreas West <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi Jim, >> >> Working on that now that someone has found what we were not able to find despite a lot of time spend on FTDNA ;-) >> >> This was the missing piece that hold us back from pushing FTDNA forward (as before we were dependant on our shared matches to give us this crucial information). And yes, tried it out myself and can confirm what Jim posted that it reflects TG’s that I had already from other services. Expect more news on our Facebook page. >> >> Andreas >> >> Andreas West >> Meine Vorfahren / my ancestors (8 generations): http://www.wikitree.com/treewidget/Basso-23/5 <http://www.wikitree.com/treewidget/Basso-23/5> >> Author of https://www.dnagenealogy.tools <https://www.dnagenealogy.tools/> >> >> Follow us on Facebook for latest updates on our progress - https://www.facebook.com/dnagenealogy.tools/ <https://www.facebook.com/dnagenealogy.tools/> >> >>> On Oct24, 2017, at 21:25, Jim Bartlett <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Now, if we could just turn it on at night and wake up with all TGs formed.... >>> >>> Jim Bartlett - atDNA blog: www.segmentology.org >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Jim, Working on that now that someone has found what we were not able to find despite a lot of time spend on FTDNA ;-) This was the missing piece that hold us back from pushing FTDNA forward (as before we were dependant on our shared matches to give us this crucial information). And yes, tried it out myself and can confirm what Jim posted that it reflects TG’s that I had already from other services. Expect more news on our Facebook page. Andreas Andreas West Meine Vorfahren / my ancestors (8 generations): http://www.wikitree.com/treewidget/Basso-23/5 <http://www.wikitree.com/treewidget/Basso-23/5> Author of https://www.dnagenealogy.tools <https://www.dnagenealogy.tools/> Follow us on Facebook for latest updates on our progress - https://www.facebook.com/dnagenealogy.tools/ <https://www.facebook.com/dnagenealogy.tools/> > On Oct24, 2017, at 21:25, Jim Bartlett <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Now, if we could just turn it on at night and wake up with all TGs formed.... > > Jim Bartlett - atDNA blog: www.segmentology.org