Hi Rhonda— X chromosome inheritance is indeed …eccentric. There are only some ancestors from whom you receive X segments; others make no contribution at all. I recommend: https://thegeneticgenealogist.com/2008/12/21/unlocking-the-genealogical-secrets-of-the-x-chromosome/ And you really *must* fill out the charts. Lisa W > On Oct 20, 2018, at 4:36 PM, Rhonda Flowers <rwflowers@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > Hello to the list > > > > As I have been able to link close DNA matches to my own tree on FTDNA it has > activated phasing. I have 46 paternal and 488 maternal phased matches. > > > > Only two of my paternal phased matches have an X match with me. One is a > male and one is a female. > > The male is a double second cousin and the female is unidentified . I cannot > find where she fits into my family tree. > > > > FTDNA suggests she is a 1st-3rd cousin. Can anyone explain what are the > implications of the two X matches on my paternal line? > > > > All other X matches in my results appear to be to females. > > > > Regards > > Rhonda > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hello again Lorna Thank you...I think I understand. This man's mother is on my paternal line. She is my father's first cousin twice over so the X Chr I share with this man should have come from their grandmothers???? Am I on the right track...I find the inheritance patterns of the X Chromosomes totally confusing! Thank you for your patience! Best wishes Rhonda -----Original Message----- From: LornaMoa <lornamoa@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, 21 October 2018 12:18 PM To: Rhonda Flowers <rwflowers@optusnet.com.au>; genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DNA] X Matches the man would only have got his X from his mother, so you need to check the pattern of X chr inheritance against his mother's pedigree to see where it can have come from and check that against yours likewise for the X chr only. basically work back up the chain for both of you, ruling out the line back from any son's father. Lorna Henderson http://LornaHen.com On 21/10/18 13:18, Rhonda Flowers wrote: > Hi again Lorna > You were correct. I went into GEDMATCH and found the female had a total X Cm of 5 and we share no X Cms. So yes just noise! > > However with the male who is on my paternal line I share the following: > > Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs > X 53,175,498 95,725,545 20.1 2,575 > X 141,970,813 150,271,096 18.6 1,192 > > Could this be explained because we are double second cousins...our grandfathers were brothers and our grandmothers were sisters? or is there something else? > > Thanks again > Rhonda > > -----Original Message----- > From: LornaMoa <lornamoa@gmail.com> > Sent: Sunday, 21 October 2018 10:49 AM > To: genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com; Rhonda Flowers > <rwflowers@optusnet.com.au> > Subject: Re: [DNA] X Matches > > Rhonda > Firstly check how large the X Match actually is. > FTDNA pops the X Match indication on your match list regardless of how small it is, and the vast majority as more likely "noise" than clues. > > > Lorna Henderson > http://LornaHen.com > > On 21/10/18 12:36, Rhonda Flowers wrote: >> Hello to the list >> >> >> >> As I have been able to link close DNA matches to my own tree on FTDNA >> it has activated phasing. I have 46 paternal and 488 maternal phased matches. >> >> >> >> Only two of my paternal phased matches have an X match with me. One >> is a male and one is a female. >> >> The male is a double second cousin and the female is unidentified . I >> cannot find where she fits into my family tree. >> >> >> >> FTDNA suggests she is a 1st-3rd cousin. Can anyone explain what are >> the implications of the two X matches on my paternal line? >> >> >> >> All other X matches in my results appear to be to females. >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> Rhonda >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal >> RootsWeb community >

the man would only have got his X from his mother, so you need to check the pattern of X chr inheritance against his mother's pedigree to see where it can have come from and check that against yours likewise for the X chr only. basically work back up the chain for both of you, ruling out the line back from any son's father. Lorna Henderson http://LornaHen.com On 21/10/18 13:18, Rhonda Flowers wrote: > Hi again Lorna > You were correct. I went into GEDMATCH and found the female had a total X Cm of 5 and we share no X Cms. So yes just noise! > > However with the male who is on my paternal line I share the following: > > Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs > X 53,175,498 95,725,545 20.1 2,575 > X 141,970,813 150,271,096 18.6 1,192 > > Could this be explained because we are double second cousins...our grandfathers were brothers and our grandmothers were sisters? or is there something else? > > Thanks again > Rhonda > > -----Original Message----- > From: LornaMoa <lornamoa@gmail.com> > Sent: Sunday, 21 October 2018 10:49 AM > To: genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com; Rhonda Flowers <rwflowers@optusnet.com.au> > Subject: Re: [DNA] X Matches > > Rhonda > Firstly check how large the X Match actually is. > FTDNA pops the X Match indication on your match list regardless of how small it is, and the vast majority as more likely "noise" than clues. > > > Lorna Henderson > http://LornaHen.com > > On 21/10/18 12:36, Rhonda Flowers wrote: >> Hello to the list >> >> >> >> As I have been able to link close DNA matches to my own tree on FTDNA it has >> activated phasing. I have 46 paternal and 488 maternal phased matches. >> >> >> >> Only two of my paternal phased matches have an X match with me. One is a >> male and one is a female. >> >> The male is a double second cousin and the female is unidentified . I cannot >> find where she fits into my family tree. >> >> >> >> FTDNA suggests she is a 1st-3rd cousin. Can anyone explain what are the >> implications of the two X matches on my paternal line? >> >> >> >> All other X matches in my results appear to be to females. >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> Rhonda >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >

Sorry, I forgot. I have compared against Clovis and Neanderthal. 23andMe compared to Neanderthal (FTDNA): Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 100 SNPs Mismatch-bunching Limit = 50 SNPs Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 1.0 cM "488852 SNPs used for this comparison." Ancestry compared to Neanderthal (FTDNA): Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 100 SNPs Mismatch-bunching Limit = 50 SNPs Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 1.0 cM "647412 SNPs used for this comparison."  - Dave On 10/20/2018 8:27 PM, Dave Hamm wrote: > Hello Ann, > > Right. Good to hear that they are working on it. > > Vendor conversion for 23andMe at GEDMatch is a really big problem. > > I get about twice the number of SNPs to compare if I lower the > threshhold on the 'One to One' utility to 250 SNPs. > > For 23andMe compared to Ancestry: > > "295262 SNPs used for this comparison." > > For 23andMe compared to FTDNA: > > "301555 SNPs used for this comparison." > > (Abut half what it should be.) > > I use these settings: > > Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 250 SNPs > Mismatch-bunching Limit = 100 SNPs > Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 1.0 cM > > I have not really tried any lower values than that, as I was just happy > to see these results (and started working with them). I don't have any > LivingDNA kits to compare within the project (fortunately). > >  - Dave Hamm > > RE: > On 10/20/2018 7:58 PM, genealogy-dna-request@rootsweb.com wrote: >> Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2018 16:57:59 -0700 >> From: Ann Turner <dnacousins@gmail.com> >> Subject: [DNA] Re: DNA match with many small segments >> To: DNA Genealogy Mailing List <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: >> <CAA-Ub_CeKH0FA6_=Tbg3M05y9_U49jv7bFAn7F30WTYg7XVu7w@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >> >> I've been working quite a bit with Genesis. They are tackling a very >> difficult problem -- how to compare people who have tested on different >> platforms. For some platforms, e.g. LivingDNA or 23andMe v5, only 160,000 >> SNPs or so can be compared with FTDNA. I have created a merged file with my >> results from Ancestry v1 and v2 and 23andMe v4 and v5. If I look at my >> match list for just the v5 kit, many do not show up in my merged kit. >> Logically they should, since all the SNPs are in the merged kit, but the >> other platforms have exposed contradictions to the match. >> >> Ann Turner

Hello Ann, Right. Good to hear that they are working on it. Vendor conversion for 23andMe at GEDMatch is a really big problem. I get about twice the number of SNPs to compare if I lower the threshhold on the 'One to One' utility to 250 SNPs. For 23andMe compared to Ancestry: "295262 SNPs used for this comparison." For 23andMe compared to FTDNA: "301555 SNPs used for this comparison." (Abut half what it should be.) I use these settings: Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 250 SNPs Mismatch-bunching Limit = 100 SNPs Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 1.0 cM I have not really tried any lower values than that, as I was just happy to see these results (and started working with them). I don't have any LivingDNA kits to compare within the project (fortunately).  - Dave Hamm RE: On 10/20/2018 7:58 PM, genealogy-dna-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2018 16:57:59 -0700 > From: Ann Turner <dnacousins@gmail.com> > Subject: [DNA] Re: DNA match with many small segments > To: DNA Genealogy Mailing List <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <CAA-Ub_CeKH0FA6_=Tbg3M05y9_U49jv7bFAn7F30WTYg7XVu7w@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > I've been working quite a bit with Genesis. They are tackling a very > difficult problem -- how to compare people who have tested on different > platforms. For some platforms, e.g. LivingDNA or 23andMe v5, only 160,000 > SNPs or so can be compared with FTDNA. I have created a merged file with my > results from Ancestry v1 and v2 and 23andMe v4 and v5. If I look at my > match list for just the v5 kit, many do not show up in my merged kit. > Logically they should, since all the SNPs are in the merged kit, but the > other platforms have exposed contradictions to the match. > > Ann Turner

If I match somebody on the X Chromosome but not on any other Chromosome what does that tell me. I am a man so I have one X Chromosome. If I match with a woman who has two X Chromosomes does that mean that My X matches with one of her two Xs. If I have two women who match me on the X chromosome does that mean that they are related to each other, I have a bunch of these. Sam Sloan On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 5:18 PM Rhonda Flowers <rwflowers@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > Hi again Lorna > You were correct. I went into GEDMATCH and found the female had a total X > Cm of 5 and we share no X Cms. So yes just noise! > > However with the male who is on my paternal line I share the following: > > Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs > X 53,175,498 95,725,545 20.1 > 2,575 > X 141,970,813 150,271,096 18.6 > 1,192 > > Could this be explained because we are double second cousins...our > grandfathers were brothers and our grandmothers were sisters? or is there > something else? > > Thanks again > Rhonda > > -----Original Message----- > From: LornaMoa <lornamoa@gmail.com> > Sent: Sunday, 21 October 2018 10:49 AM > To: genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com; Rhonda Flowers <rwflowers@optusnet.com.au> > Subject: Re: [DNA] X Matches > > Rhonda > Firstly check how large the X Match actually is. > FTDNA pops the X Match indication on your match list regardless of how > small it is, and the vast majority as more likely "noise" than clues. > > > Lorna Henderson > http://LornaHen.com > > On 21/10/18 12:36, Rhonda Flowers wrote: > > Hello to the list > > > > > > > > As I have been able to link close DNA matches to my own tree on FTDNA it > has > > activated phasing. I have 46 paternal and 488 maternal phased matches. > > > > > > > > Only two of my paternal phased matches have an X match with me. One is a > > male and one is a female. > > > > The male is a double second cousin and the female is unidentified . I > cannot > > find where she fits into my family tree. > > > > > > > > FTDNA suggests she is a 1st-3rd cousin. Can anyone explain what are the > > implications of the two X matches on my paternal line? > > > > > > > > All other X matches in my results appear to be to females. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Rhonda > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Hi again Lorna You were correct. I went into GEDMATCH and found the female had a total X Cm of 5 and we share no X Cms. So yes just noise! However with the male who is on my paternal line I share the following: Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs X 53,175,498 95,725,545 20.1 2,575 X 141,970,813 150,271,096 18.6 1,192 Could this be explained because we are double second cousins...our grandfathers were brothers and our grandmothers were sisters? or is there something else? Thanks again Rhonda -----Original Message----- From: LornaMoa <lornamoa@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, 21 October 2018 10:49 AM To: genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com; Rhonda Flowers <rwflowers@optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: [DNA] X Matches Rhonda Firstly check how large the X Match actually is. FTDNA pops the X Match indication on your match list regardless of how small it is, and the vast majority as more likely "noise" than clues. Lorna Henderson http://LornaHen.com On 21/10/18 12:36, Rhonda Flowers wrote: > Hello to the list > > > > As I have been able to link close DNA matches to my own tree on FTDNA it has > activated phasing. I have 46 paternal and 488 maternal phased matches. > > > > Only two of my paternal phased matches have an X match with me. One is a > male and one is a female. > > The male is a double second cousin and the female is unidentified . I cannot > find where she fits into my family tree. > > > > FTDNA suggests she is a 1st-3rd cousin. Can anyone explain what are the > implications of the two X matches on my paternal line? > > > > All other X matches in my results appear to be to females. > > > > Regards > > Rhonda > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

check in the chromosome browser Rhonda, it defaults to only 5cMs and above, so if nothing shows it's miniscule. Even 30cMs X matches can be a LONG time ago, but at least they have a good inheritance pattern that rules a lot of a pedigree out of contention Lorna Henderson http://LornaHen.com On 21/10/18 13:07, Rhonda Flowers wrote: > Sorry Lorna > That is wrong...I quoted the longest block of CMs not X match amount. > Will get back to you. > Rhonda > > -----Original Message----- > From: LornaMoa <lornamoa@gmail.com> > Sent: Sunday, 21 October 2018 10:49 AM > To: genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com; Rhonda Flowers <rwflowers@optusnet.com.au> > Subject: Re: [DNA] X Matches > > Rhonda > Firstly check how large the X Match actually is. > FTDNA pops the X Match indication on your match list regardless of how small it is, and the vast majority as more likely "noise" than clues. > > > Lorna Henderson > http://LornaHen.com > > On 21/10/18 12:36, Rhonda Flowers wrote: >> Hello to the list >> >> >> >> As I have been able to link close DNA matches to my own tree on FTDNA it has >> activated phasing. I have 46 paternal and 488 maternal phased matches. >> >> >> >> Only two of my paternal phased matches have an X match with me. One is a >> male and one is a female. >> >> The male is a double second cousin and the female is unidentified . I cannot >> find where she fits into my family tree. >> >> >> >> FTDNA suggests she is a 1st-3rd cousin. Can anyone explain what are the >> implications of the two X matches on my paternal line? >> >> >> >> All other X matches in my results appear to be to females. >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> Rhonda >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >

Sorry Lorna That is wrong...I quoted the longest block of CMs not X match amount. Will get back to you. Rhonda -----Original Message----- From: LornaMoa <lornamoa@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, 21 October 2018 10:49 AM To: genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com; Rhonda Flowers <rwflowers@optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: [DNA] X Matches Rhonda Firstly check how large the X Match actually is. FTDNA pops the X Match indication on your match list regardless of how small it is, and the vast majority as more likely "noise" than clues. Lorna Henderson http://LornaHen.com On 21/10/18 12:36, Rhonda Flowers wrote: > Hello to the list > > > > As I have been able to link close DNA matches to my own tree on FTDNA it has > activated phasing. I have 46 paternal and 488 maternal phased matches. > > > > Only two of my paternal phased matches have an X match with me. One is a > male and one is a female. > > The male is a double second cousin and the female is unidentified . I cannot > find where she fits into my family tree. > > > > FTDNA suggests she is a 1st-3rd cousin. Can anyone explain what are the > implications of the two X matches on my paternal line? > > > > All other X matches in my results appear to be to females. > > > > Regards > > Rhonda > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

I've been working quite a bit with Genesis. They are tackling a very difficult problem -- how to compare people who have tested on different platforms. For some platforms, e.g. LivingDNA or 23andMe v5, only 160,000 SNPs or so can be compared with FTDNA. I have created a merged file with my results from Ancestry v1 and v2 and 23andMe v4 and v5. If I look at my match list for just the v5 kit, many do not show up in my merged kit. Logically they should, since all the SNPs are in the merged kit, but the other platforms have exposed contradictions to the match. Ann Turner On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 4:36 AM Dave Hamm via GENEALOGY-DNA < genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Well, be careful there Ann. > > I have not really used Genesis because I have few matches of interest > there. > > However, on the 'One to One' comparison, I get low SNP counts like that > on 4th & 5th cousins(from 4 to 7 cMs), with much less than the 300,000 > SNPs total. For 7 cMs, I would expect it to be about 5th cousin, usually > depending upon the chromosome. (When I lower the threshhold to 1 cM, my > sums can run about 12,000 SNPs total.) > > I tend to think GEDmatch is doing something strange with the data in an > effort to avoid the Excess IBD regions. > > - Dave Hamm > > RE: > On 10/20/2018 12:16 AM, Ann Turner wrote: > > Sorry, I wasn't clear on where you would see the pink/red. It's when you > > run the one-to-many tool. However, I can tell from the low SNP counts of > > the individual segments that these are likely to be false positives. The > > total SNP count at the bottom of the one-to-one page is probably under > > 300,000. > > > > Ann Turner > > > > On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 12:19 PM Christene Hoffert < > > christene02hoffert@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> The SNP value varies from over 200 to 650 nothing has a pink/red colour > >> Christene > >> > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Thanks Lorna The X match for my second cousin (male) is 54 and the X match for my unidentified (female) is 53. Is this considered large or small? Thanks again Rhonda -----Original Message----- From: LornaMoa <lornamoa@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, 21 October 2018 10:49 AM To: genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com; Rhonda Flowers <rwflowers@optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: [DNA] X Matches Rhonda Firstly check how large the X Match actually is. FTDNA pops the X Match indication on your match list regardless of how small it is, and the vast majority as more likely "noise" than clues. Lorna Henderson http://LornaHen.com On 21/10/18 12:36, Rhonda Flowers wrote: > Hello to the list > > > > As I have been able to link close DNA matches to my own tree on FTDNA it has > activated phasing. I have 46 paternal and 488 maternal phased matches. > > > > Only two of my paternal phased matches have an X match with me. One is a > male and one is a female. > > The male is a double second cousin and the female is unidentified . I cannot > find where she fits into my family tree. > > > > FTDNA suggests she is a 1st-3rd cousin. Can anyone explain what are the > implications of the two X matches on my paternal line? > > > > All other X matches in my results appear to be to females. > > > > Regards > > Rhonda > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Rhonda Firstly check how large the X Match actually is. FTDNA pops the X Match indication on your match list regardless of how small it is, and the vast majority as more likely "noise" than clues. Lorna Henderson http://LornaHen.com On 21/10/18 12:36, Rhonda Flowers wrote: > Hello to the list > > > > As I have been able to link close DNA matches to my own tree on FTDNA it has > activated phasing. I have 46 paternal and 488 maternal phased matches. > > > > Only two of my paternal phased matches have an X match with me. One is a > male and one is a female. > > The male is a double second cousin and the female is unidentified . I cannot > find where she fits into my family tree. > > > > FTDNA suggests she is a 1st-3rd cousin. Can anyone explain what are the > implications of the two X matches on my paternal line? > > > > All other X matches in my results appear to be to females. > > > > Regards > > Rhonda > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hello to the list As I have been able to link close DNA matches to my own tree on FTDNA it has activated phasing. I have 46 paternal and 488 maternal phased matches. Only two of my paternal phased matches have an X match with me. One is a male and one is a female. The male is a double second cousin and the female is unidentified . I cannot find where she fits into my family tree. FTDNA suggests she is a 1st-3rd cousin. Can anyone explain what are the implications of the two X matches on my paternal line? All other X matches in my results appear to be to females. Regards Rhonda

I’ve tested, my DNA, at Ancestry, 23 & Me, and FT DNA. I understand why results change in the test over time. But, why is it that I have wildly differing results between ea of the 3 tests? Who is more accurate? I mean, FT DNA says I’m 5% Turkish but I’ve been doing my genealogy for 28 yrs now and I can’t remotely come close to even hazarding a guess. I started DNA testing about 8ish years ago. Ancestry says I’m I’m 22% Scottish and Irish which I’m guessing is roughly accurate. But then when I click on the regions it says I have no connections in Ireland or Scotland. Well, 1, they’re the ones who said I did. And 2, if it’s based off reading my tree I’d guess that ~30% of my tree is tagged with a Scotland or Ireland location. And of course it has no indication of any Turkish DNA at all. And 23 & Me has .3% in the Turkey region which is a far cry from 5%. 23 & Me has me with 19.4% German, which is likely right based on what I know of my family. But Ancestry and FT DNA don’t show any German at all. And the 3 tests swing somewhere (totaled together) b/w 40% and 92% for England/Scotland/Wales/Ireland. What’s with such a wide swing? Thanks! Sent from my iPhone

Well, be careful there Ann. I have not really used Genesis because I have few matches of interest there. However, on the 'One to One' comparison, I get low SNP counts like that on 4th & 5th cousins(from 4 to 7 cMs), with much less than the 300,000 SNPs total. For 7 cMs, I would expect it to be about 5th cousin, usually depending upon the chromosome. (When I lower the threshhold to 1 cM, my sums can run about 12,000 SNPs total.) I tend to think GEDmatch is doing something strange with the data in an effort to avoid the Excess IBD regions.  - Dave Hamm RE: On 10/20/2018 12:16 AM, Ann Turner wrote: > Sorry, I wasn't clear on where you would see the pink/red. It's when you > run the one-to-many tool. However, I can tell from the low SNP counts of > the individual segments that these are likely to be false positives. The > total SNP count at the bottom of the one-to-one page is probably under > 300,000. > > Ann Turner > > On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 12:19 PM Christene Hoffert < > christene02hoffert@gmail.com> wrote: > >> The SNP value varies from over 200 to 650 nothing has a pink/red colour >> Christene >>

Same article states it now back to 1500 per day. Still a large number Andreas Andreas West Meine Vorfahren / my ancestors (8 generations): http://www.wikitree.com/treewidget/Basso-23/5 <http://www.wikitree.com/treewidget/Basso-23/5> Author of https://www.yourDNA.family <https://www.yourdna.family/> Follow us on Facebook for latest updates on our progress - <https://www.facebook.com/yourDNAfamily/>https://www.facebook.com/yourDNAfamily/ <https://www.facebook.com/yourDNAfamily/> > On Oct20, 2018, at 12:15, Eric S Johnson <crates@oneotaslopes.org> wrote: > > “Nor did [GEDmatch founders Rogers & Olson] anticipate 5,000 new uploads to > the site shortly after [the Golden State Killer]’s arrest-a daily record.” > > > > --"DNA Matchups for crime,” “International New York Times” of 20-21 > October 2018, p1 > > > > Best, > > Eric > > <https://keyserver.pgp.com/vkd/DownloadKey.event?keyid=0xE0F58E0F1AF7E6F2> > OpenPGP: 0x1AF7E6F2 ● Skype: oneota ● XMPP/OTR: > <mailto:berekum@jabber.ccc.de> berekum@jabber.ccc.de ● Silent Circle: +1 > 312 614-0159 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

“Nor did [GEDmatch founders Rogers & Olson] anticipate 5,000 new uploads to the site shortly after [the Golden State Killer]’s arrest-a daily record.” --"DNA Matchups for crime,” “International New York Times” of 20-21 October 2018, p1 Best, Eric <https://keyserver.pgp.com/vkd/DownloadKey.event?keyid=0xE0F58E0F1AF7E6F2> OpenPGP: 0x1AF7E6F2 ● Skype: oneota ● XMPP/OTR: <mailto:berekum@jabber.ccc.de> berekum@jabber.ccc.de ● Silent Circle: +1 312 614-0159

Sorry, I wasn't clear on where you would see the pink/red. It's when you run the one-to-many tool. However, I can tell from the low SNP counts of the individual segments that these are likely to be false positives. The total SNP count at the bottom of the one-to-one page is probably under 300,000. Ann Turner On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 12:19 PM Christene Hoffert < christene02hoffert@gmail.com> wrote: > The SNP value varies from over 200 to 650 nothing has a pink/red colour > Christene >

The SNP value varies from over 200 to 650 nothing has a pink/red colour Christene On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 11:19 AM <genealogy-dna-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Send GENEALOGY-DNA mailing list submissions to > genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > > To subscribe via email send a message with subject subscribe and body > subscribe to genealogy-dna-request@rootsweb.com > > To unsubscribe via email send a message with subject unsubscribe and > body unsubscribe to genealogy-dna-request@rootsweb.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > genealogy-dna-owner@rootsweb.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of GENEALOGY-DNA digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Just about everything you’ve read on the Warren DNA test is wrong > (Stephanie Ray) > 2. DNA match with many small segments (Christene Hoffert) > 3. Re: DNA match with many small segments (Ann Turner) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 05:23:26 -0700 > From: Stephanie Ray <stephanieray52@gmail.com> > Subject: [DNA] Just about everything you’ve read on the Warren DNA > test is wrong > To: genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > < > CAFN4c_haRwDCG4fs1hMWzRXyeY0YswhqzuHpSXXmvNN9WifOug@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Some good general information, with great graphics: > > https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/10/18/just-about-everything-youve-read-warren-dna-test-is-wrong > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 10:36:37 -0700 > From: Christene Hoffert <christene02hoffert@gmail.com> > Subject: [DNA] DNA match with many small segments > To: genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > < > CAGDTYd1OTZ4vmX7MFWoLk4HQEhC088zPNf0T+00WEZxzxvTHfw@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Hi, Just had a match with someone on ged match genesis which gave me 13 > segments on 9 different chromosomes between 7 and 9.5 cM most are mainly > half matches. > > Is it possible this is a person that I match from many ancestors that is a > closer match than it appears. > > Christene > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 11:19:04 -0700 > From: Ann Turner <dnacousins@gmail.com> > Subject: [DNA] Re: DNA match with many small segments > To: DNA Genealogy Mailing List <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <CAA-Ub_CC9dB1OnH+csWN-= > 0gdDS3f5JQQQX6_-DZ41aPvq8ccg@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > What does the SNP overlap column show? If it's color coded pink/red, these > could be false positives. > > Ann Turner > > On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 10:36 AM Christene Hoffert < > christene02hoffert@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi, Just had a match with someone on ged match genesis which gave me 13 > > segments on 9 different chromosomes between 7 and 9.5 cM most are mainly > > half matches. > > > > Is it possible this is a person that I match from many ancestors that is > a > > closer match than it appears. > > > > Christene > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > > community > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > To contact the %(real_name)s list administrator, send an email to > %(real_name)s-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the GENEALOGY-DNA mailing list -- > genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com, send an email to %(real_name)s@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > %(real_name)s-request@%(host_name)s > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > ------------------------------ > > End of GENEALOGY-DNA Digest, Vol 13, Issue 412 > ********************************************** >

What does the SNP overlap column show? If it's color coded pink/red, these could be false positives. Ann Turner On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 10:36 AM Christene Hoffert < christene02hoffert@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, Just had a match with someone on ged match genesis which gave me 13 > segments on 9 different chromosomes between 7 and 9.5 cM most are mainly > half matches. > > Is it possible this is a person that I match from many ancestors that is a > closer match than it appears. > > Christene > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >