I assume the have been keeping my spit on ice and will re-test it with the new chip free-of-charge and will have the new results before the end of the week! ;> -----Original Message----- From: Michael Fisher via GENEALOGY-DNA [mailto:genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 8:53 AM To: genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com Cc: Michael Fisher Subject: [DNA] LivingDNA new chip Hi All Saw this this morning. LivingDNA announce a new chip. https://www.livingdna.com/blog/370-we-have-new-chip Mike Fisher - Droitwich UK _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com

Hi All Saw this this morning. LivingDNA announce a new chip. https://www.livingdna.com/blog/370-we-have-new-chip Mike Fisher - Droitwich UK

"One of them reports that he inquired at Ancestry because he was not able to see his list of matches, and was told that there has been an upgrade. They sent him a new list of matches, which they said were fuzzy because he had not submitted a family tree." I never heard of such nonsense! Have your close cousins upload to Gedmatch. If you don't match there, you have a problem, and it's probably not the DNA test. Carol Anne On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 9:13 PM Glory Sullivan <sasssaa@gmail.com> wrote: > > A few that I lost with the change a few years ago with Ancestry showed up > at MyHeritage and are showing on Gedmatch as cousins > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 5:49 PM Joan Lince <joanklince@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > A couple of months ago I did a DNA test with Ancestry.com and have found > > several matches. Good, but what surprised me was that some close cousins, > > according to a careful paper trail, who did the DNA test with Ancestry some > > time ago, are not showing up as my matches. One of them reports that he > > inquired at Ancestry because he was not able to see his list of matches, > > and > > was told that there has been an upgrade. They sent him a new list of > > matches, which they said were fuzzy because he had not submitted a family > > tree. That doesn't make sense. This is a DNA test, not a family tree test. > > > > > > > > I've come to suspect that Ancestry's own older DNA test results are not > > compatible with their current test results. Has anyone else had this > > experience? Does anyone have information about the compatibility of older > > DNA tests and more recent DNA tests at Ancestry.com? > > > > > > > > Joan Lince > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > > community > > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

A few that I lost with the change a few years ago with Ancestry showed up at MyHeritage and are showing on Gedmatch as cousins On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 5:49 PM Joan Lince <joanklince@earthlink.net> wrote: > A couple of months ago I did a DNA test with Ancestry.com and have found > several matches. Good, but what surprised me was that some close cousins, > according to a careful paper trail, who did the DNA test with Ancestry some > time ago, are not showing up as my matches. One of them reports that he > inquired at Ancestry because he was not able to see his list of matches, > and > was told that there has been an upgrade. They sent him a new list of > matches, which they said were fuzzy because he had not submitted a family > tree. That doesn't make sense. This is a DNA test, not a family tree test. > > > > I've come to suspect that Ancestry's own older DNA test results are not > compatible with their current test results. Has anyone else had this > experience? Does anyone have information about the compatibility of older > DNA tests and more recent DNA tests at Ancestry.com? > > > > Joan Lince > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

A couple of months ago I did a DNA test with Ancestry.com and have found several matches. Good, but what surprised me was that some close cousins, according to a careful paper trail, who did the DNA test with Ancestry some time ago, are not showing up as my matches. One of them reports that he inquired at Ancestry because he was not able to see his list of matches, and was told that there has been an upgrade. They sent him a new list of matches, which they said were fuzzy because he had not submitted a family tree. That doesn't make sense. This is a DNA test, not a family tree test. I've come to suspect that Ancestry's own older DNA test results are not compatible with their current test results. Has anyone else had this experience? Does anyone have information about the compatibility of older DNA tests and more recent DNA tests at Ancestry.com? Joan Lince

organizing the matches Valerie, you might like to check out the DNA offerings of RootsFinder.com Quite intuitive to use and I love the ability to easily get cluster charts of who all matches whom. Best to have access to the DNAGedCom for ease of downloading the files (which also helps greatly for import into GenomeMatePro) and Tier 1 of GEDMatch Lorna Henderson http://LornaHen.com <http://lornahen.com/> On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 8:52 PM <genealogy-dna-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Send GENEALOGY-DNA mailing list submissions to > genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > > To subscribe via email send a message with subject subscribe and body > subscribe to genealogy-dna-request@rootsweb.com > > To unsubscribe via email send a message with subject unsubscribe and > body unsubscribe to genealogy-dna-request@rootsweb.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > genealogy-dna-owner@rootsweb.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of GENEALOGY-DNA digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Matches & their matces (Karla Huebner) > 2. Re: Matches & their matces (LornaMoa) > 3. Re: Matches & their matces (LornaMoa) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 22:55:33 -0400 > From: Karla Huebner <calypsospots@gmail.com> > Subject: [DNA] Re: Matches & their matces > To: genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > < > CA+FJH4OCyJ14cCR7VvT6gE4d+3u6THJS0-hBCSohFdL1zy+zgw@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Lots of people use GenomeMatePro (I do) or spreadsheets. > > Even if you're part of a less-tested population, there's lots you can do to > figure out the matching segments > > Karla Huebner > calypsospots AT gmail.com > > > On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 10:41 PM vbgarton <vbgarton2@bigpond.com> wrote: > > > I am having great trouble in finding my so called cousins so is it any > > help to put all the matches and matches of these matches into a program > and > > if so which program. > > > > Mrs Valerie B Garton > > Dip FHS and Assoc. Dip L & A H. > > Guild of One-Name Studies representative for CULLODEN & HIGGINSON > > Worldwide - member no: 4825 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > > community > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 16:34:46 +1300 > From: LornaMoa <lornamoa@gmail.com> > Subject: [DNA] Re: Matches & their matces > To: genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <167a262d-e28f-4e6d-3af1-cfb39c16c44c@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed > > Valerie, > you might like to check out the DNA offerings of RootsFinder.com > Quite intuitive to use and I love the ability to easily get cluster > charts of who all matches whom. > > Best to have access to the DNAGedCom for ease of downloading the files > (which also helps greatly for import into GenomeMatePro) and Tier 1 of > GEDMatch > > Lorna Henderson > http://LornaHen.com > > On 22/10/18 15:40, vbgarton wrote: > > I am having great trouble in finding my so called cousins so is it any > help to put all the matches and matches of these matches into a program and > if so which program. > > > > Mrs Valerie B Garton > > Dip FHS and Assoc. Dip L & A H. > > Guild of One-Name Studies representative for CULLODEN & HIGGINSON > Worldwide - member no: 4825 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 16:52:41 +1300 > From: LornaMoa <lornamoa@gmail.com> > Subject: [DNA] Re: Matches & their matces > To: genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <01925e56-4481-9b1d-2ce4-c0ffbbe02915@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed > > Valerie, > you might like to check out the DNA offerings of RootsFinder.com for > keeping track of matches and segments > Quite intuitive to use and I love the ability to easily get cluster > charts of who all matches whom. > > Best to have access to the DNAGedCom for ease of downloading the files > from the testing companies (which also helps greatly for import into > GenomeMatePro) and Tier 1 of GEDMatch > > But basically I keep track of everyone who matches with their pedigrees > in my normal Genie program in a separate database from all the proven > "cousins". > > Lorna Henderson > http://LornaHen.com > > On 22/10/18 15:40, vbgarton wrote: > > I am having great trouble in finding my so called cousins so is it any > help to put all the matches and matches of these matches into a program and > if so which program. > > > > Mrs Valerie B Garton > > Dip FHS and Assoc. 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Valerie, you might like to check out the DNA offerings of RootsFinder.com for keeping track of matches and segments Quite intuitive to use and I love the ability to easily get cluster charts of who all matches whom. Best to have access to the DNAGedCom for ease of downloading the files from the testing companies (which also helps greatly for import into GenomeMatePro) and Tier 1 of GEDMatch But basically I keep track of everyone who matches with their pedigrees  in my normal Genie program in a separate database from all the proven "cousins". Lorna Henderson http://LornaHen.com On 22/10/18 15:40, vbgarton wrote: > I am having great trouble in finding my so called cousins so is it any help to put all the matches and matches of these matches into a program and if so which program. > > Mrs Valerie B Garton > Dip FHS and Assoc. Dip L & A H. > Guild of One-Name Studies representative for CULLODEN & HIGGINSON Worldwide - member no: 4825 > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Valerie, you might like to check out the DNA offerings of RootsFinder.com Quite intuitive to use and I love the ability to easily get cluster charts of who all matches whom. Best to have access to the DNAGedCom for ease of downloading the files (which also helps greatly for import into GenomeMatePro) and Tier 1 of GEDMatch Lorna Henderson http://LornaHen.com On 22/10/18 15:40, vbgarton wrote: > I am having great trouble in finding my so called cousins so is it any help to put all the matches and matches of these matches into a program and if so which program. > > Mrs Valerie B Garton > Dip FHS and Assoc. Dip L & A H. > Guild of One-Name Studies representative for CULLODEN & HIGGINSON Worldwide - member no: 4825 > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Lots of people use GenomeMatePro (I do) or spreadsheets. Even if you're part of a less-tested population, there's lots you can do to figure out the matching segments Karla Huebner calypsospots AT gmail.com On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 10:41 PM vbgarton <vbgarton2@bigpond.com> wrote: > I am having great trouble in finding my so called cousins so is it any > help to put all the matches and matches of these matches into a program and > if so which program. > > Mrs Valerie B Garton > Dip FHS and Assoc. Dip L & A H. > Guild of One-Name Studies representative for CULLODEN & HIGGINSON > Worldwide - member no: 4825 > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

If you live in the UK the problem is probably that none of your relatives have tested. If that is the case programs cannot help. Belinda -----Original Message----- From: vbgarton [mailto:vbgarton2@bigpond.com] Sent: Monday, 22 October 2018 1:41 PM To: genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com Subject: [DNA] Matches & their matces I am having great trouble in finding my so called cousins so is it any help to put all the matches and matches of these matches into a program and if so which program. Mrs Valerie B Garton Dip FHS and Assoc. Dip L & A H. Guild of One-Name Studies representative for CULLODEN & HIGGINSON Worldwide - member no: 4825 _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

I am having great trouble in finding my so called cousins so is it any help to put all the matches and matches of these matches into a program and if so which program. Mrs Valerie B Garton Dip FHS and Assoc. Dip L & A H. Guild of One-Name Studies representative for CULLODEN & HIGGINSON Worldwide - member no: 4825

Hello Vernon Thank you for this information. Thank you too to Lisa, Lorna, Sam and Linda who have all helped me to understand a little more about X inheritance. I can't wait to get started on filling in the charts and learning more. The people on this list are truly amazing, sharing their knowledge freely and showing great patience with those of us who take a little longer to understand. Best wishes to you all Rhonda -----Original Message----- From: Vernon Smith <vernonsca@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, 22 October 2018 3:54 AM To: genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com Subject: [DNA] Re: X Matches Debbie Parker Wayne provided some X DNA Inheritance charts into which you can type the names of ancestors at http://debsdelvings.blogspot.com/2013/10/x-dna-inheritance-charts.html Vernon Smith ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 01:58:40 -0700 From: Lisa Wilcox <occassia@gmail.com> Subject: [DNA] Re: X Matches To: genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <D3949FBB-828B-4107-8FD8-1EB8B789EED2@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" I think you can download them, but they aren’t really designed to be typed into. > On Oct 20, 2018, at 8:18 PM, Rhonda Flowers <rwflowers@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > Hello Lisa > > Thank you very very much. I have found the charts and printed them off. As a first step I have begun to fill them in by hand. > > Now for my next "dumb" question! How can I find a copy of these charts that I can fill in online...or is there a way to save the ones you pointed me to electronically so that I can type into them? When it comes to computers my technical skills are limited. > > My best wishes > Rhonda > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lisa Wilcox <occassia@gmail.com> > Sent: Sunday, 21 October 2018 12:59 PM > To: genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Subject: [DNA] Re: X Matches > > Hi Rhonda— > > X chromosome inheritance is indeed …eccentric. There are only some ancestors from whom you receive X segments; others make no contribution at all. > > I recommend: > https://thegeneticgenealogist.com/2008/12/21/unlocking-the-genealogical-secrets-of-the-x-chromosome/ > And you really *must* fill out the charts. > > > Lisa W > > >> On Oct 20, 2018, at 4:36 PM, Rhonda Flowers <rwflowers@optusnet.com.au> wrote: >> >> Hello to the list >> >> >> >> As I have been able to link close DNA matches to my own tree on FTDNA >> it has activated phasing. I have 46 paternal and 488 maternal phased matches. >> >> >> >> Only two of my paternal phased matches have an X match with me. One is >> a male and one is a female. >> >> The male is a double second cousin and the female is unidentified . I >> cannot find where she fits into my family tree. >> >> >> >> FTDNA suggests she is a 1st-3rd cousin. Can anyone explain what are >> the implications of the two X matches on my paternal line? >> >> >> >> All other X matches in my results appear to be to females. >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> Rhonda >> >> _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Dear Laura, There are pros and cons for the ethnicity estimates for each of these companies. Each of these companies have their own way of approaching this problem. Unfortunately, it is very difficult to trace the origin of most DNA segments to a specific country in Europe because many DNA segments are actually found in multiple countries throughout Europe. One of the major features I like that 23andMe provides that none of the other companies provides is chromosome painting. 23andMe calls this feature "Ancestry Composition". It appears that within Europe, Ashkenazi Jewish DNA and Finnish DNA is the easiest for companies to identify. I summarize some of the pros and cons of the ethnicity estimates for each of the major DNA testing companies at https://isogg.org/wiki/Autosomal_DNA_testing_comparison_chart in the section "Overall accuracy and sophistication of the biogeographical ancestry analysis rated on a 1-10 scale with 10 being excellent and 1 being poor". Sincerely, Tim Janzen -----Original Message----- From: Laura Stewart [mailto:laurasgenealogy@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2018 4:23 PM To: Genealogy DNA list Subject: [DNA] Test differences? I’ve tested, my DNA, at Ancestry, 23 & Me, and FT DNA. I understand why results change in the test over time. But, why is it that I have wildly differing results between ea of the 3 tests? Who is more accurate? I mean, FT DNA says I’m 5% Turkish but I’ve been doing my genealogy for 28 yrs now and I can’t remotely come close to even hazarding a guess. I started DNA testing about 8ish years ago. Ancestry says I’m I’m 22% Scottish and Irish which I’m guessing is roughly accurate. But then when I click on the regions it says I have no connections in Ireland or Scotland. Well, 1, they’re the ones who said I did. And 2, if it’s based off reading my tree I’d guess that ~30% of my tree is tagged with a Scotland or Ireland location. And of course it has no indication of any Turkish DNA at all. And 23 & Me has .3% in the Turkey region which is a far cry from 5%. 23 & Me has me with 19.4% German, which is likely right based on what I know of my family. But Ancestry and FT DNA don’t show any German at all. And the 3 tests swing somewhere (totaled together) b/w 40% and 92% for England/Scotland/Wales/Ireland. What’s with such a wide swing? Thanks!

Thanks! And when I said German, more accurately it’s Prussia. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 21, 2018, at 10:32 AM, Kitty Cooper <kittymcooper@gmail.com> wrote: > > Germany was a crossroads throughout history so there is no German ethnicity > in the DNA. North Germans can look Scandinavian, west Germans French, east > Germans eastern European and south Germans italian > > Plus remember that Saxony is in Germany so that is roughly where those > Saxons who settled England came from ... so British can be german > > Ethnicity results reach further back in time than our genealogies...and the > ottoman empire (Turks) conquered large sections of eastern Europe. > > See if this post helps > http://blog.kittycooper.com/2016/04/ancestry-composition-comparisons-a-case-study/ > > Or this more recent one > http://blog.kittycooper.com/2017/05/norwegian-or-english-dna-predictions/ > > On Sat, Oct 20, 2018, 4:23 PM Laura Stewart <laurasgenealogy@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> I’ve tested, my DNA, at Ancestry, 23 & Me, and FT DNA. I understand why >> results change in the test over time. But, why is it that I have wildly >> differing results between ea of the 3 tests? Who is more accurate? I mean, >> FT DNA says I’m 5% Turkish but I’ve been doing my genealogy for 28 yrs now >> and I can’t remotely come close to even hazarding a guess. I started DNA >> testing about 8ish years ago. Ancestry says I’m I’m 22% Scottish and Irish >> which I’m guessing is roughly accurate. But then when I click on the >> regions it says I have no connections in Ireland or Scotland. Well, 1, >> they’re the ones who said I did. And 2, if it’s based off reading my tree >> I’d guess that ~30% of my tree is tagged with a Scotland or Ireland >> location. And of course it has no indication of any Turkish DNA at all. >> And 23 & Me has .3% in the Turkey region which is a far cry from 5%. 23 & >> Me has me with 19.4% German, which is likely right based on what I know of >> my family. But Ancestry and FT DNA don’t show any German at all. And the 3 >> tests swing somewhere (totaled together) b/w 40% and 92% for >> England/Scotland/Wales/Ireland. What’s with such a wide swing? >> >> Thanks! >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> community >> > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Debbie Parker Wayne provided some X DNA Inheritance charts into which you can type the names of ancestors at http://debsdelvings.blogspot.com/2013/10/x-dna-inheritance-charts.html Vernon Smith ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 01:58:40 -0700 From: Lisa Wilcox <occassia@gmail.com> Subject: [DNA] Re: X Matches To: genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <D3949FBB-828B-4107-8FD8-1EB8B789EED2@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" I think you can download them, but they aren’t really designed to be typed into. > On Oct 20, 2018, at 8:18 PM, Rhonda Flowers <rwflowers@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > Hello Lisa > > Thank you very very much. I have found the charts and printed them off. As a first step I have begun to fill them in by hand. > > Now for my next "dumb" question! How can I find a copy of these charts that I can fill in online...or is there a way to save the ones you pointed me to electronically so that I can type into them? When it comes to computers my technical skills are limited. > > My best wishes > Rhonda > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lisa Wilcox <occassia@gmail.com> > Sent: Sunday, 21 October 2018 12:59 PM > To: genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Subject: [DNA] Re: X Matches > > Hi Rhonda— > > X chromosome inheritance is indeed …eccentric. There are only some ancestors from whom you receive X segments; others make no contribution at all. > > I recommend: > https://thegeneticgenealogist.com/2008/12/21/unlocking-the-genealogical-secrets-of-the-x-chromosome/ > And you really *must* fill out the charts. > > > Lisa W > > >> On Oct 20, 2018, at 4:36 PM, Rhonda Flowers <rwflowers@optusnet.com.au> wrote: >> >> Hello to the list >> >> >> >> As I have been able to link close DNA matches to my own tree on FTDNA >> it has activated phasing. I have 46 paternal and 488 maternal phased matches. >> >> >> >> Only two of my paternal phased matches have an X match with me. One is >> a male and one is a female. >> >> The male is a double second cousin and the female is unidentified . I >> cannot find where she fits into my family tree. >> >> >> >> FTDNA suggests she is a 1st-3rd cousin. Can anyone explain what are >> the implications of the two X matches on my paternal line? >> >> >> >> All other X matches in my results appear to be to females. >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> Rhonda >> >>

Germany was a crossroads throughout history so there is no German ethnicity in the DNA. North Germans can look Scandinavian, west Germans French, east Germans eastern European and south Germans italian Plus remember that Saxony is in Germany so that is roughly where those Saxons who settled England came from ... so British can be german Ethnicity results reach further back in time than our genealogies...and the ottoman empire (Turks) conquered large sections of eastern Europe. See if this post helps http://blog.kittycooper.com/2016/04/ancestry-composition-comparisons-a-case-study/ Or this more recent one http://blog.kittycooper.com/2017/05/norwegian-or-english-dna-predictions/ On Sat, Oct 20, 2018, 4:23 PM Laura Stewart <laurasgenealogy@gmail.com> wrote: > I’ve tested, my DNA, at Ancestry, 23 & Me, and FT DNA. I understand why > results change in the test over time. But, why is it that I have wildly > differing results between ea of the 3 tests? Who is more accurate? I mean, > FT DNA says I’m 5% Turkish but I’ve been doing my genealogy for 28 yrs now > and I can’t remotely come close to even hazarding a guess. I started DNA > testing about 8ish years ago. Ancestry says I’m I’m 22% Scottish and Irish > which I’m guessing is roughly accurate. But then when I click on the > regions it says I have no connections in Ireland or Scotland. Well, 1, > they’re the ones who said I did. And 2, if it’s based off reading my tree > I’d guess that ~30% of my tree is tagged with a Scotland or Ireland > location. And of course it has no indication of any Turkish DNA at all. > And 23 & Me has .3% in the Turkey region which is a far cry from 5%. 23 & > Me has me with 19.4% German, which is likely right based on what I know of > my family. But Ancestry and FT DNA don’t show any German at all. And the 3 > tests swing somewhere (totaled together) b/w 40% and 92% for > England/Scotland/Wales/Ireland. What’s with such a wide swing? > > Thanks! > > > Sent from my iPhone > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Ethnicity is still "not soup yet," as The Legal Genealogist says. I put no credence in it, especially since my full sister and I have wildly different results at all the companies. On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 7:23 PM Laura Stewart <laurasgenealogy@gmail.com> wrote: > I’ve tested, my DNA, at Ancestry, 23 & Me, and FT DNA. I understand why > results change in the test over time. But, why is it that I have wildly > differing results between ea of the 3 tests? Who is more accurate? I mean, > FT DNA says I’m 5% Turkish but I’ve been doing my genealogy for 28 yrs now > and I can’t remotely come close to even hazarding a guess. I started DNA > testing about 8ish years ago. Ancestry says I’m I’m 22% Scottish and Irish > which I’m guessing is roughly accurate. But then when I click on the > regions it says I have no connections in Ireland or Scotland. Well, 1, > they’re the ones who said I did. And 2, if it’s based off reading my tree > I’d guess that ~30% of my tree is tagged with a Scotland or Ireland > location. And of course it has no indication of any Turkish DNA at all. > And 23 & Me has .3% in the Turkey region which is a far cry from 5%. 23 & > Me has me with 19.4% German, which is likely right based on what I know of > my family. But Ancestry and FT DNA don’t show any German at all. And the 3 > tests swing somewhere (totaled together) b/w 40% and 92% for > England/Scotland/Wales/Ireland. What’s with such a wide swing? > > Thanks! > > > Sent from my iPhone > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > -- https://www.doriswheeler.org https://genealogyanddna.blogspot.com/

I think you can download them, but they aren’t really designed to be typed into. > On Oct 20, 2018, at 8:18 PM, Rhonda Flowers <rwflowers@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > Hello Lisa > > Thank you very very much. I have found the charts and printed them off. As a first step I have begun to fill them in by hand. > > Now for my next "dumb" question! How can I find a copy of these charts that I can fill in online...or is there a way to save the ones you pointed me to electronically so that I can type into them? When it comes to computers my technical skills are limited. > > My best wishes > Rhonda > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lisa Wilcox <occassia@gmail.com> > Sent: Sunday, 21 October 2018 12:59 PM > To: genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Subject: [DNA] Re: X Matches > > Hi Rhonda— > > X chromosome inheritance is indeed …eccentric. There are only some ancestors from whom you receive X segments; others make no contribution at all. > > I recommend: > https://thegeneticgenealogist.com/2008/12/21/unlocking-the-genealogical-secrets-of-the-x-chromosome/ > And you really *must* fill out the charts. > > > Lisa W > > >> On Oct 20, 2018, at 4:36 PM, Rhonda Flowers <rwflowers@optusnet.com.au> wrote: >> >> Hello to the list >> >> >> >> As I have been able to link close DNA matches to my own tree on FTDNA >> it has activated phasing. I have 46 paternal and 488 maternal phased matches. >> >> >> >> Only two of my paternal phased matches have an X match with me. One is >> a male and one is a female. >> >> The male is a double second cousin and the female is unidentified . I >> cannot find where she fits into my family tree. >> >> >> >> FTDNA suggests she is a 1st-3rd cousin. Can anyone explain what are >> the implications of the two X matches on my paternal line? >> >> >> >> All other X matches in my results appear to be to females. >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> Rhonda >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal >> RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hello Lisa Thank you very very much. I have found the charts and printed them off. As a first step I have begun to fill them in by hand. Now for my next "dumb" question! How can I find a copy of these charts that I can fill in online...or is there a way to save the ones you pointed me to electronically so that I can type into them? When it comes to computers my technical skills are limited. My best wishes Rhonda -----Original Message----- From: Lisa Wilcox <occassia@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, 21 October 2018 12:59 PM To: genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com Subject: [DNA] Re: X Matches Hi Rhonda— X chromosome inheritance is indeed …eccentric. There are only some ancestors from whom you receive X segments; others make no contribution at all. I recommend: https://thegeneticgenealogist.com/2008/12/21/unlocking-the-genealogical-secrets-of-the-x-chromosome/ And you really *must* fill out the charts. Lisa W > On Oct 20, 2018, at 4:36 PM, Rhonda Flowers <rwflowers@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > Hello to the list > > > > As I have been able to link close DNA matches to my own tree on FTDNA > it has activated phasing. I have 46 paternal and 488 maternal phased matches. > > > > Only two of my paternal phased matches have an X match with me. One is > a male and one is a female. > > The male is a double second cousin and the female is unidentified . I > cannot find where she fits into my family tree. > > > > FTDNA suggests she is a 1st-3rd cousin. Can anyone explain what are > the implications of the two X matches on my paternal line? > > > > All other X matches in my results appear to be to females. > > > > Regards > > Rhonda > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

I have only tested at 23andMe and FTDNA.  The MY Origins report from 23andMe corresponds almost exactly to what I know about my ancestors from conventional research, with many of my ancestral lines going back to the 1600s. Although the MY Origins report from FTDNA was never as accurate as 23andMe, it was more more closely aligned to my research than it is now, since they updated that report the last time. My paternal yDNA haplogroup is I-Y10633>I-SK1234.  My maternal mtDNA haplogroup is V3c.  V3c is connected to both Iberia and Scandinavia.  I have no known connection to Iberia.  My maternal great-grandmother was from Northern Germany.  I therefore conclude my V3c is most likely Scandinavian. I have concluded, the problem with FTDNA is that these two haplogroups are very young, around 10,000 years old or less. There are not very many people in those haplogroup, so it is not cost effective for FTDNA to develop the necessary tests, to confirm those haplogroups. One of my project members did one of those I panels at at FTDNA, after he had tested with another company and knew he was I-Y10633.  The closest FTDNA could get was DF29, which is only the second branch in the I haplogroup.  And if you look closely, almost none of the individual SNPs in the I  haplegroup tree can be ordered alone.  The only way you can get that information is to order a Big Y or a Big 500. Anyway, none of my Scandinavian ancestry shows up on MY Origins at FTDNA. Marleen Van Horne