Yes, but you know sometime three generations further back. It's like many pioneers came to one area, they each had twelve kids who each had twelve kids.... And eventually half the town could trace a shared ancestry -----Original Message----- From: ewade <ewade@cfl.rr.com> To: genealogy-dna <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> Sent: Fri, Oct 26, 2018 10:50 am Subject: [DNA] Re: Likelihood of matching both husband and wife surnames? Interesting.  Endogamy may be the answer.  In your cases where you have cousins three different ways - do you have any people in common in the three different ways?  -----Original Message----- From: Wjhonson via GENEALOGY-DNA <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2018 12:49 PM To: genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com Cc: Wjhonson <wjhonson@aol.com> Subject: [DNA] Re: Likelihood of matching both husband and wife surnames? I would say you have to look to endogamy. Some of my relatives came from a small town in a small county, where the nearest larger population center was over fifty miles away. They married each other, several different ways.  I have cousins with whom I'm cousins three diffferent ways -----Original Message----- From: ewade <ewade@cfl.rr.com> To: genealogy-dna <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> Sent: Fri, Oct 26, 2018 7:36 am Subject: [DNA] Likelihood of matching both husband and wife surnames? I found a couple where the husband has the surname Caplinger and the wife's maiden name is Keaster.  I have good DNA matches to both Caplinger and Keaster.  The matches for each surname are different.  Neither of these surnames are common.  What is the likelihood of this happening?  Thank you, Eldon _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Interesting. Endogamy may be the answer. In your cases where you have cousins three different ways - do you have any people in common in the three different ways? -----Original Message----- From: Wjhonson via GENEALOGY-DNA <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2018 12:49 PM To: genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com Cc: Wjhonson <wjhonson@aol.com> Subject: [DNA] Re: Likelihood of matching both husband and wife surnames? I would say you have to look to endogamy. Some of my relatives came from a small town in a small county, where the nearest larger population center was over fifty miles away. They married each other, several different ways. I have cousins with whom I'm cousins three diffferent ways -----Original Message----- From: ewade <ewade@cfl.rr.com> To: genealogy-dna <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> Sent: Fri, Oct 26, 2018 7:36 am Subject: [DNA] Likelihood of matching both husband and wife surnames? I found a couple where the husband has the surname Caplinger and the wife's maiden name is Keaster. I have good DNA matches to both Caplinger and Keaster. The matches for each surname are different. Neither of these surnames are common. What is the likelihood of this happening? Thank you, Eldon _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

I would say you have to look to endogamy. Some of my relatives came from a small town in a small county, where the nearest larger population center was over fifty miles away. They married each other, several different ways.  I have cousins with whom I'm cousins three diffferent ways -----Original Message----- From: ewade <ewade@cfl.rr.com> To: genealogy-dna <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> Sent: Fri, Oct 26, 2018 7:36 am Subject: [DNA] Likelihood of matching both husband and wife surnames? I found a couple where the husband has the surname Caplinger and the wife's maiden name is Keaster.  I have good DNA matches to both Caplinger and Keaster.  The matches for each surname are different.  Neither of these surnames are common.  What is the likelihood of this happening?  Thank you, Eldon _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

I found a couple where the husband has the surname Caplinger and the wife's maiden name is Keaster. I have good DNA matches to both Caplinger and Keaster. The matches for each surname are different. Neither of these surnames are common. What is the likelihood of this happening? Thank you, Eldon

Bill manually entered the haplogroup at GEDmatch. If he had the complete test at FTDNA, he should see a "badge" for J2a1a1c in the upper right-hand corner of his home page and he should see "mtFull Sequence" in his order history. He should not see an offer to upgrade. Ann Turner On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 12:18 AM Ian Logan via GENEALOGY-DNA < genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Bill > > You have already had the FGS test at FTDNA ! > > This is a copy of your GEDmatch entry: > > T436920 J2a1a1c *Bill Webster wbwebster@internode.on.net > > 'J2a1a1c' is small 'twig' in branch J; > and FTDNA reports that it has found 22 sequences (1 of which will be > yours). > > On the GenBank database there are 3 sequences > (all from FTDNA customers prior to 2012, so again one of these might be > yours) > > Also, there are 19 (and perhaps more) people on GEDmatch who say they > are in this Haplogroup. (My list only looks at 170,000+ entries) > > The defining mutations for 'J2a1a1c' are: A8008G & G15596A. > > A8008G is found in 10 GenBank sequences (out of 45,000+) > and is a non-synonymous mutation. > > G15596A is found in 75 GenBank sequences > and is a definer in Haplogroups L0d2b1a1a & U5a1b1f > This mutation makes the changes MT-CYB V284I and is presumably > insignificant. > > The only other thing to say is that the Haplogroup appears to have been > 'Scandinavian' > for several thousands of yours; but before that I expect the Haplogroup > would have > been found southeast of there, in countries such as Armenia, Georgia, > Turkey, etc. > > Ian > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > On 26/10/2018 00:01, Bill Webster wrote: > > When I first got into DNA I ordered a sort of full suite of tests from > > FTDNA, including what is described in my account as mtDNA Plus. Maybe if > > I'd known more at the time, as a bloke I may not have ordered mtDNA at > all, > > although my mother and grandmother are dead and I have no sisters. > > But, FTDNA tell me I can upgrade to mtDNA Full Sequence. And so, I was > > attracted to this thread out of curiosity. At $159 it does not come > across > > as cheap. > > >From somewhere (can't remember - doesn't seem to show in FTDNA), my > mtDNA > > haplogroup is J2a1a1c. > > Does this tell me anything? > > Bill > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Bill You have already had the FGS test at FTDNA ! This is a copy of your GEDmatch entry: T436920     J2a1a1c    *Bill Webster wbwebster@internode.on.net 'J2a1a1c' is small 'twig' in branch J; and FTDNA reports that it has found 22 sequences (1 of which will be yours). On the GenBank database there are 3 sequences (all from FTDNA customers prior to 2012, so again one of these might be yours) Also, there are 19 (and perhaps more) people on GEDmatch who say they are in this Haplogroup. (My list only looks at 170,000+ entries) The defining mutations for 'J2a1a1c' are: A8008G & G15596A. A8008G is found in 10 GenBank sequences (out of 45,000+) and is a non-synonymous mutation. G15596A is found in 75 GenBank sequences and is a definer in Haplogroups L0d2b1a1a  &  U5a1b1f This mutation makes the changes MT-CYB  V284I  and is presumably insignificant. The only other thing to say is that the Haplogroup appears to have been 'Scandinavian' for several thousands of yours; but before that I expect the Haplogroup would have been found southeast of there, in countries such as Armenia, Georgia, Turkey, etc. Ian ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 26/10/2018 00:01, Bill Webster wrote: > When I first got into DNA I ordered a sort of full suite of tests from > FTDNA, including what is described in my account as mtDNA Plus. Maybe if > I'd known more at the time, as a bloke I may not have ordered mtDNA at all, > although my mother and grandmother are dead and I have no sisters. > But, FTDNA tell me I can upgrade to mtDNA Full Sequence. And so, I was > attracted to this thread out of curiosity. At $159 it does not come across > as cheap. > >From somewhere (can't remember - doesn't seem to show in FTDNA), my mtDNA > haplogroup is J2a1a1c. > Does this tell me anything? > Bill

Mitochondrial DNA consists of three parts: Hyper Variable Region 1 (HVR 1) Hyper Variable Region 1 (HVR 2) Control Region (CR) There are three tests you can order.  The least expensive test, just covers HVR1, and gives you a general idea of what your mtDNA haplogroup is.  The next test, price wise, is mtDNA Plus and covers HVR1 & 2.  It gives you a little more information about your mtDNA haplogroup.  The most expensive mtDNA test, the Full Mitochondrial Sequence is roughly equivalent to the Big Y, only for mtDNA. mtDNA testing is only minimally useful for genealogy, in my opinion, because a woman's surname changes every generation, and it can be difficult to track the relationships back in time.  The most common mt haplogroup for men and women from Western Europe and Britain is H.  If you are in the H mtDNA haplogroup, you might get lots of matches, but your common ancestor could have lived 40,000 or more years ago, so that is not much help. I first tested mtDNA Plus.  For two or three years, I had no matches.  I upgraded to FMS an after about10 years or so, got 1 match with a GD of 3, which Ian speculates our common ancestor lived about 10,000 years ago. I uploaded my mt genome to GenBank about 10 years ago, and to my delight it was unique and became one of the defining genomes for my haplogroup, V3c, in Va Oven's mtDNA Phyloganetic Tree.  I still have one unmatched mutation, in the CR, so have the future opportunity to move down one more step in the chart. My test result is very interesting in that the V haplogroup only appears in about 4% of the population of Western Europe, and almost nowhere else.  It is mostly associated with the Basques of Iberia, and the Saami Tribe of Finland.  For me, the cost of the test was worth what I learned.  If you are in the mt haplogroup H, it might not be so exciting. This is the last test I recommend to my project members, and only if their pockets are VERY deep.  If it is not a strain on your pocket book, like Ian, I encourage everyone to do at least one FMS, just so the GenBank data base can become more complete. Marleen Van Horne

Your J2a1a1c label may have come from a company that includes some mtDNA information -- 23andMe, LivingDNA, some versions of the Genographic Project. These all test a few thousand selected SNPs. The full sequence from FTDNA might take you another level down and/or reveal some "extra" mutations (ones not used to define a haplogroup). It might also show that some of your HVR1/HVR2 matches drop out, or you may gain some matches that differ at a few positions. Whether that knowledge is worth it to you depends on your level of interest in your straight maternal line. Ann Turner On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 4:04 PM Bill Webster <wbwebster@internode.on.net> wrote: > When I first got into DNA I ordered a sort of full suite of tests from > FTDNA, including what is described in my account as mtDNA Plus. Maybe if > I'd known more at the time, as a bloke I may not have ordered mtDNA at all, > although my mother and grandmother are dead and I have no sisters. > But, FTDNA tell me I can upgrade to mtDNA Full Sequence. And so, I was > attracted to this thread out of curiosity. At $159 it does not come across > as cheap. > From somewhere (can't remember - doesn't seem to show in FTDNA), my mtDNA > haplogroup is J2a1a1c. > Does this tell me anything? > Bill > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

mtDNA is not about the sex of the person taking the test. All humans have mtDNA. They inherit it from their mothers that's true, but all human have mtDNA The Haplogroup tells you about the ancient ancestry of your strictly maternal line - mother's mother's mother's mother's mother.... It's not completely useless as it by itself can show or deny evidence that, for example, your mother's sister's daughter is really who your tree says she is. If her haplogroup is totally different, then you're not related that way at all. -----Original Message----- From: Bill Webster <wbwebster@internode.on.net> To: genealogy-dna <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thu, Oct 25, 2018 4:03 pm Subject: [DNA] Re: What does Full Sequence from Family Tree DNA mean? When I first got into DNA I ordered a sort of full suite of tests from FTDNA, including what is described in my account as mtDNA Plus. Maybe if I'd known more at the time, as a bloke I may not have ordered mtDNA at all, although my mother and grandmother are dead and I have no sisters. But, FTDNA tell me I can upgrade to mtDNA Full Sequence. And so, I was attracted to this thread out of curiosity. At $159 it does not come across as cheap. From somewhere (can't remember - doesn't seem to show in FTDNA), my mtDNA haplogroup is J2a1a1c. Does this tell me anything? Bill _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

When I first got into DNA I ordered a sort of full suite of tests from FTDNA, including what is described in my account as mtDNA Plus. Maybe if I'd known more at the time, as a bloke I may not have ordered mtDNA at all, although my mother and grandmother are dead and I have no sisters. But, FTDNA tell me I can upgrade to mtDNA Full Sequence. And so, I was attracted to this thread out of curiosity. At $159 it does not come across as cheap. From somewhere (can't remember - doesn't seem to show in FTDNA), my mtDNA haplogroup is J2a1a1c. Does this tell me anything? Bill

Kindly tell me what are the concerns that some people have over uploading their autosomal results to the GEDmatch database. I cannot understand why so many people are reluctant to join Gedmatch. What are they worried about? Sam Sloan On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 7:19 AM Ian Logan via GENEALOGY-DNA < genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Joan & Doris > > Yes, the GenBank database just accepts mtDNA sequences. > > And, the submitter's name does not appear; only their FTDNA kit number. > > Only about 1 mtDNA sequence in 500 is recognisable by its having some > special feature; > so privacy is not an issue that should prevent submission. > > The concerns that some people have over uploading their autosomal results > to the GEDmatch database really do not apply to submitting mitochondrial > results > to the GenBank database. > > Ian > ---------------------------- > On 24/10/2018 15:02, Doris Wheeler wrote: > > Joan, as I understand it, this is a federal government National > Institutes > > of Health (NIH) data bank for mtDNA only. I'm sure Ian can give you more > > information. Or check it out here: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/genbank/ > > > > On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 9:51 AM Joan Lince <joanklince@earthlink.net> > wrote: > > > >> What is the privacy situation with GenBank? If I submit my mitochondrial > >> and > >> autosomal results, obtained at FTDNA, to GenBank, will I be exposing my > >> close relatives to public inspection? > >> > >> Joan Lince > >> > >> > >> From: Ian Logan via GENEALOGY-DNA [mailto:genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com] > >> Sam > >> Mitochondrial Haplogroup T2f1a1 is large and mainly Scandinavian.For > more > >> details have a look at my webpage at: > >> > >> http://www.ianlogan.co.uk/sequences_by_group/t2f_genbank_sequences.htm > >> The present 'phylotree' at www.phylotree,orghas not been updated for a > >> couple of years, so T2f1a1 has not been split upinto smaller groups, as > >> yet. > >> May I suggest you submit your Full Genome Sequence to the GenBank > >> database;and I'll add your results to my page. And, perhaps you will > get a > >> subgroup labelof your own in due course. > >> Details of how to submit a sequence to GenBank are given on another of > my > >> webpages.Over 2,000 FTDNA customers have made their own submissions to > >> GenBankover the last few years ! > >> > >> Ian > >> ----------------- > >> On Wednesday, 24 October 2018, 09:47:44 GMT+1, Sam Sloan > >> > >> > >> I have ordered the Full Sequence from Family Tree DNA. The results are > >> back > >> and 3 of my matches are a genetic distance of 1 away from me and 141 > >> matches are a genetic distance of 2 away from me. My mtDNA haplogroup is > >> T2f1a1. I do not recognize any of these names. What does this all mean? > >> > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Scandanavian? From what I've seen doesn't it appear that it came out of the Urals and migrated across all of Europe ? It seems strong in central Europe, Urals, northern Iran.... -----Original Message----- From: Ian Logan via GENEALOGY-DNA <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> To: DNA-NEWBIE <DNA-NEWBIE@yahoogroups.com>; DNAAdoption <DNAAdoption@yahoogroups.com>; genealogy-dna <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com>; Sam Sloan <samhsloan@gmail.com> Cc: Ian Logan <ianlogan22@btinternet.com> Sent: Wed, Oct 24, 2018 2:09 am Subject: [DNA] Re: What does Full Sequence from Family Tree DNA mean? Sam Mitochondrial Haplogroup T2f1a1 is large and mainly Scandinavian.For more details have a look at my webpage at: http://www.ianlogan.co.uk/sequences_by_group/t2f_genbank_sequences.htm The present 'phylotree' at www.phylotree,orghas not been updated for a couple of years, so T2f1a1 has not been split upinto smaller groups, as yet. May I suggest you submit your Full Genome Sequence to the GenBank database;and I'll add your results to my page. And, perhaps you will get a subgroup labelof your own in due course. Details of how to submit a sequence to GenBank are given on another of my webpages.Over 2,000 FTDNA customers have made their own submissions to GenBankover the last few years ! Ian ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Wednesday, 24 October 2018, 09:47:44 GMT+1, Sam Sloan <samhsloan@gmail.com> wrote: I have ordered the Full Sequence from Family Tree DNA. The results are back and 3 of my matches are a genetic distance of 1 away from me and 141 matches are a genetic distance of 2 away from me. My mtDNA haplogroup is T2f1a1. I do not recognize any of these names. What does this all mean? _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Joan & Doris Yes, the GenBank database just accepts mtDNA sequences. And, the submitter's name does not appear; only their FTDNA kit number. Only about 1 mtDNA sequence in 500 is recognisable by its having some special feature; so privacy is not an issue that should prevent submission. The concerns that some people have over uploading their autosomal results to the GEDmatch database really do not apply to submitting mitochondrial results to the GenBank database. Ian ---------------------------- On 24/10/2018 15:02, Doris Wheeler wrote: > Joan, as I understand it, this is a federal government National Institutes > of Health (NIH) data bank for mtDNA only. I'm sure Ian can give you more > information. Or check it out here: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/genbank/ > > On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 9:51 AM Joan Lince <joanklince@earthlink.net> wrote: > >> What is the privacy situation with GenBank? If I submit my mitochondrial >> and >> autosomal results, obtained at FTDNA, to GenBank, will I be exposing my >> close relatives to public inspection? >> >> Joan Lince >> >> >> From: Ian Logan via GENEALOGY-DNA [mailto:genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com] >> Sam >> Mitochondrial Haplogroup T2f1a1 is large and mainly Scandinavian.For more >> details have a look at my webpage at: >> >> http://www.ianlogan.co.uk/sequences_by_group/t2f_genbank_sequences.htm >> The present 'phylotree' at www.phylotree,orghas not been updated for a >> couple of years, so T2f1a1 has not been split upinto smaller groups, as >> yet. >> May I suggest you submit your Full Genome Sequence to the GenBank >> database;and I'll add your results to my page. And, perhaps you will get a >> subgroup labelof your own in due course. >> Details of how to submit a sequence to GenBank are given on another of my >> webpages.Over 2,000 FTDNA customers have made their own submissions to >> GenBankover the last few years ! >> >> Ian >> ----------------- >> On Wednesday, 24 October 2018, 09:47:44 GMT+1, Sam Sloan >> >> >> I have ordered the Full Sequence from Family Tree DNA. The results are >> back >> and 3 of my matches are a genetic distance of 1 away from me and 141 >> matches are a genetic distance of 2 away from me. My mtDNA haplogroup is >> T2f1a1. I do not recognize any of these names. What does this all mean? >>

Joan, as I understand it, this is a federal government National Institutes of Health (NIH) data bank for mtDNA only. I'm sure Ian can give you more information. Or check it out here: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/genbank/ On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 9:51 AM Joan Lince <joanklince@earthlink.net> wrote: > What is the privacy situation with GenBank? If I submit my mitochondrial > and > autosomal results, obtained at FTDNA, to GenBank, will I be exposing my > close relatives to public inspection? > > Joan Lince > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ian Logan via GENEALOGY-DNA [mailto:genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 5:10 AM > To: DNA-NEWBIE@yahoogroups.com; DNAAdoption@yahoogroups.com; > genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com; Sam Sloan > Cc: Ian Logan > Subject: [DNA] Re: What does Full Sequence from Family Tree DNA mean? > > Sam > Mitochondrial Haplogroup T2f1a1 is large and mainly Scandinavian.For more > details have a look at my webpage at: > > http://www.ianlogan.co.uk/sequences_by_group/t2f_genbank_sequences.htm > The present 'phylotree' at www.phylotree,orghas not been updated for a > couple of years, so T2f1a1 has not been split upinto smaller groups, as > yet. > May I suggest you submit your Full Genome Sequence to the GenBank > database;and I'll add your results to my page. And, perhaps you will get a > subgroup labelof your own in due course. > Details of how to submit a sequence to GenBank are given on another of my > webpages.Over 2,000 FTDNA customers have made their own submissions to > GenBankover the last few years ! > > Ian > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > On Wednesday, 24 October 2018, 09:47:44 GMT+1, Sam Sloan > <samhsloan@gmail.com> wrote: > > I have ordered the Full Sequence from Family Tree DNA. The results are > back > and 3 of my matches are a genetic distance of 1 away from me and 141 > matches are a genetic distance of 2 away from me. My mtDNA haplogroup is > T2f1a1. I do not recognize any of these names. What does this all mean? > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > -- https://www.doriswheeler.org https://genealogyanddna.blogspot.com/

What is the privacy situation with GenBank? If I submit my mitochondrial and autosomal results, obtained at FTDNA, to GenBank, will I be exposing my close relatives to public inspection? Joan Lince -----Original Message----- From: Ian Logan via GENEALOGY-DNA [mailto:genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 5:10 AM To: DNA-NEWBIE@yahoogroups.com; DNAAdoption@yahoogroups.com; genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com; Sam Sloan Cc: Ian Logan Subject: [DNA] Re: What does Full Sequence from Family Tree DNA mean? Sam Mitochondrial Haplogroup T2f1a1 is large and mainly Scandinavian.For more details have a look at my webpage at: http://www.ianlogan.co.uk/sequences_by_group/t2f_genbank_sequences.htm The present 'phylotree' at www.phylotree,orghas not been updated for a couple of years, so T2f1a1 has not been split upinto smaller groups, as yet. May I suggest you submit your Full Genome Sequence to the GenBank database;and I'll add your results to my page. And, perhaps you will get a subgroup labelof your own in due course. Details of how to submit a sequence to GenBank are given on another of my webpages.Over 2,000 FTDNA customers have made their own submissions to GenBankover the last few years ! Ian ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Wednesday, 24 October 2018, 09:47:44 GMT+1, Sam Sloan <samhsloan@gmail.com> wrote: I have ordered the Full Sequence from Family Tree DNA. The results are back and 3 of my matches are a genetic distance of 1 away from me and 141 matches are a genetic distance of 2 away from me. My mtDNA haplogroup is T2f1a1. I do not recognize any of these names. What does this all mean? _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Sam Mitochondrial Haplogroup T2f1a1 is large and mainly Scandinavian.For more details have a look at my webpage at: http://www.ianlogan.co.uk/sequences_by_group/t2f_genbank_sequences.htm The present 'phylotree' at www.phylotree,orghas not been updated for a couple of years, so T2f1a1 has not been split upinto smaller groups, as yet. May I suggest you submit your Full Genome Sequence to the GenBank database;and I'll add your results to my page. And, perhaps you will get a subgroup labelof your own in due course. Details of how to submit a sequence to GenBank are given on another of my webpages.Over 2,000 FTDNA customers have made their own submissions to GenBankover the last few years ! Ian ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Wednesday, 24 October 2018, 09:47:44 GMT+1, Sam Sloan <samhsloan@gmail.com> wrote: I have ordered the Full Sequence from Family Tree DNA. The results are back and 3 of my matches are a genetic distance of 1 away from me and 141 matches are a genetic distance of 2 away from me. My mtDNA haplogroup is T2f1a1. I do not recognize any of these names. What does this all mean?

I have ordered the Full Sequence from Family Tree DNA. The results are back and 3 of my matches are a genetic distance of 1 away from me and 141 matches are a genetic distance of 2 away from me. My mtDNA haplogroup is T2f1a1. I do not recognize any of these names. What does this all mean?

Roberta Estes writes in her blog 4 March 2018 https://dna-explained.com/2018/03/04/rootstech-day-3-jewish-dna-schmoozing-and-the-flapper-party/ keep scrolling to get to (the part on charts) . . . I came to RootsTech with a list of vendors that I absolutely wanted to see and meet. Pierre Cloutier who wrote Charting Companion <https://progenygenealogy.com/Products/Family-Tree-Charts> was one of those people. I’ve used this product for years to produce great charts and reports. It works with almost any genealogy software Here, Pierre’s explaining the McGuire Method to a visitor. I wasn’t quite sure how he could have implemented this methodology, so he kindly explained it to me. Charting companion now includes special mtDNA lineages <https://dna-explained.com/2017/02/07/using-x-and-mitochondrial-dna-charts-by-charting-companion/> displayed on charts, X chromosome inheritance <https://dna-explained.com/2014/02/03/charting-companion-from-progeny-software/> as well as the new McGuire methodology <https://thegeneticgenealogist.com/2017/03/19/guest-post-the-mcguire-method-simplified-visual-dna-comparisons/> . If you’re trying to figure out where a DNA tester places in a group of other testers, the McGuire Method will be helpful, and Pierre has automated this methodology. Thank you, Pierre!

On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 1:14 AM <genealogy-dna-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Send GENEALOGY-DNA mailing list submissions to > genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > > To subscribe via email send a message with subject subscribe and body > subscribe to genealogy-dna-request@rootsweb.com > > To unsubscribe via email send a message with subject unsubscribe and > body unsubscribe to genealogy-dna-request@rootsweb.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > genealogy-dna-owner@rootsweb.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of GENEALOGY-DNA digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Test differences? (Marleen Van Horne) > 2. Re: X Matches (Rhonda Flowers) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2018 19:15:24 -0700 > From: Marleen Van Horne <msvnhrn@jps.net> > Subject: [DNA] Re: Test differences? > To: genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <feee298a-5c78-f508-f433-d2b8731fe182@jps.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > I have only tested at 23andMe and FTDNA. The MY Origins report from > 23andMe corresponds almost exactly to what I know about my ancestors > from conventional research, with many of my ancestral lines going back > to the 1600s. > > Although the MY Origins report from FTDNA was never as accurate as > 23andMe, it was more more closely aligned to my research than it is now, > since they updated that report the last time. > > My paternal yDNA haplogroup is I-Y10633>I-SK1234. My maternal mtDNA > haplogroup is V3c. V3c is connected to both Iberia and Scandinavia. I > have no known connection to Iberia. My maternal great-grandmother was > from Northern Germany. I therefore conclude my V3c is most likely > Scandinavian. > > I have concluded, the problem with FTDNA is that these two haplogroups > are very young, around 10,000 years old or less. There are not very many > people in those haplogroup, so it is not cost effective for FTDNA to > develop the necessary tests, to confirm those haplogroups. > > One of my project members did one of those I panels at at FTDNA, after > he had tested with another company and knew he was I-Y10633. The > closest FTDNA could get was DF29, which is only the second branch in the > I haplogroup. And if you look closely, almost none of the individual > SNPs in the I haplegroup tree can be ordered alone. The only way you > can get that information is to order a Big Y or a Big 500. > > Anyway, none of my Scandinavian ancestry shows up on MY Origins at FTDNA. > > Marleen Van Horne > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 14:18:23 +1100 > From: Rhonda Flowers <rwflowers@optusnet.com.au> > Subject: [DNA] Re: X Matches > To: <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <013b01d468ec$bb53f840$31fbe8c0$@optusnet.com.au> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hello Lisa > > Thank you very very much. I have found the charts and printed them off. As > a first step I have begun to fill them in by hand. > > Now for my next "dumb" question! How can I find a copy of these charts > that I can fill in online...or is there a way to save the ones you pointed > me to electronically so that I can type into them? When it comes to > computers my technical skills are limited. > > My best wishes > Rhonda > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lisa Wilcox <occassia@gmail.com> > Sent: Sunday, 21 October 2018 12:59 PM > To: genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Subject: [DNA] Re: X Matches > > Hi Rhonda— > > X chromosome inheritance is indeed …eccentric. There are only some > ancestors from whom you receive X segments; others make no contribution at > all. > > I recommend: > > https://thegeneticgenealogist.com/2008/12/21/unlocking-the-genealogical-secrets-of-the-x-chromosome/ > And you really *must* fill out the charts. > > > Lisa W > > > > On Oct 20, 2018, at 4:36 PM, Rhonda Flowers <rwflowers@optusnet.com.au> > wrote: > > > > Hello to the list > > > > > > > > As I have been able to link close DNA matches to my own tree on FTDNA > > it has activated phasing. I have 46 paternal and 488 maternal phased > matches. > > > > > > > > Only two of my paternal phased matches have an X match with me. One is > > a male and one is a female. > > > > The male is a double second cousin and the female is unidentified . I > > cannot find where she fits into my family tree. > > > > > > > > FTDNA suggests she is a 1st-3rd cousin. Can anyone explain what are > > the implications of the two X matches on my paternal line? > > > > > > > > All other X matches in my results appear to be to females. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Rhonda > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > > RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb > is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > To contact the %(real_name)s list administrator, send an email to > %(real_name)s-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the GENEALOGY-DNA mailing list -- > genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com, send an email to %(real_name)s@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > %(real_name)s-request@%(host_name)s > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > ------------------------------ > > End of GENEALOGY-DNA Digest, Vol 13, Issue 420 > ********************************************** >

Here's what LivingDNA posted on their Facebook page "In response to all of your comments below, we are excited that it has moved to its next-generation DNA chip. The new DNA chip, Sirius, is designed to be universally compatible with all chips on the market, including the original Orion Living DNA chip. At this stage, there is no need for an existing customer to upgrade to the new chip and all existing customers will continue to get regional breakdown upgrades, Haplogroup enhancements and Family Networks as they are released. More details will follow next week." https://www.facebook.com/livingdna/posts/2149559351960395?comment_id=2149661081950222 Ann Turner On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 8:01 AM Thomas Anderson <anderson@wire-tap.net> wrote: > I assume the have been keeping my spit on ice and will re-test it with the > new chip free-of-charge and will have the new results before the end of the > week! ;> > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Fisher via GENEALOGY-DNA [mailto:genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 8:53 AM > To: genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Cc: Michael Fisher > Subject: [DNA] LivingDNA new chip > > Hi All > > Saw this this morning. LivingDNA announce a new chip. > > https://www.livingdna.com/blog/370-we-have-new-chip > > Mike Fisher - Droitwich UK > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > https://www.avg.com > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >