I have a match on Family Finder, longest segment 13.87 cms., total number of cms. 40.65. However this is spread over a total of 22 chromosomes, nine of which are spread over just one chromosome, the X, the largest match on the X being 6.56 cms. Total number of X matches being 25.51 cms. Is this unusual and if so does it have any kind of special significance? Apart from confusing me even more of course. David

. not DNA-specific, but interesting: I do my tree-building in FTM on my PC, so I rarely look at my tree on ancestry.com, but I just did, and find that some of the furthest-back bits had flashing green "potential mother" boxes hanging off the "oldest known ancestor"-I guess I'm being told the equivalent of the "little green leaf" hint, but more useful, because, about an "older" ancestor I didn't have in my tree at all. FYI, FWIW. Best, Eric

Lindsey, MyHeritage also has an excellent triangulation feature. Doris On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 5:14 PM Lindsey Britton via GENEALOGY-DNA < genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: > -----Original Message----- > From: Lindsey Britton <lplantagenet@aol.com> > To: GENEALOGY-DNA <GENEALOGY-DNA@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sun, Nov 4, 2018 1:48 pm > Subject: My Heritage DNA Tests > > Are uploads from My Heritage to Family Tree still free? I'm considering > the three test offer with free shipping, but my other tests were done at > Family Tree. Is there any reason not to use My Heritage? Roberta's news > from the Oslo conference suggests that My Heritage may become a major > player in the DNA consumer market with special services like DNA extraction > and ancestor DNA profile reconstruction not available elsewhere. It > appears their business model is to concentrate on providing better and more > useful tools/software while relying on partnerships with other companies to > increase distribution and provide DNA testing services. Lindsey > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > -- https://www.doriswheeler.org https://genealogyanddna.blogspot.com/

It appears there will be fees either way after November 30th--or at least fees for full access to tools at both companies.  On second thought I'm inclined to order from FTDNA when the sale is announced.  Reasons to Order at My Heritage1. Tempting sale price plus free shipping on 3 or more tests2. Free access to tools for new orders vs fees for test results from other companies uploaded after November 30th3. Results compatible with tests performed at FTDNA (Ancestry and 23 and me tests are not)4. Large and rapidly growing database5. Exciting new tools described at ConferenceBut:1. I have five tests at Family Tree already--four have been uploaded to My Heritage and three to GEDMATCH; one cousin hasn't given permission to upload to either and may not.2.  We have no assurance that My Heritage won't charge for some of the new tools announced at the Conference.3.  Family Tree has a different business model and is unlikely to charge its customers for tools.4. Family Tree's sale should be almost as good as the sale at My Heritage.5.  I can have my out-of-town cousin's test sent directly to her if I order from FTDNA whereas if I order from My Heritage all three tests will be sent to me.Lindsey ***************** Lindsay, MyHeritage uses Family Tree DNA (FTDNA) kits and FTDNA does the analysis.  MyHeritage does their own interpretation of the raw results, so MyHeritage and FTDNA can give you different results.  I suggest that you continue testing at FTDNA and transferring to MyHeritage.  Of course, if the fee for transfer to MyHeritage, it may pay to go the other way.  In any case, I recommend being in both databases. Yours aye, Bob McLaren 

Lindsay, MyHeritage uses Family Tree DNA (FTDNA) kits and FTDNA does the analysis. MyHeritage does their own interpretation of the raw results, so MyHeritage and FTDNA can give you different results. I suggest that you continue testing at FTDNA and transferring to MyHeritage. Of course, if the fee for transfer to MyHeritage, it may pay to go the other way. In any case, I recommend being in both databases. Yours aye, Bob McLaren -----Original Message----- From: Lindsey Britton via GENEALOGY-DNA [mailto:genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com] Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 5:36 PM To: lornamoa@gmail.com; genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com Cc: Lindsey Britton Subject: [DNA] Re: Fwd: My Heritage DNA Tests Thank you, Lorna. Yes, I was asking about uploads from My Heritage to Family Tree and I wasn't aware of the $19 unlock fee--I thought it applied only to Ancestry tests. I don't think match lists are useful without a chromosome browser. Any thoughts about ordering from My Heritage rather than Family Tree? It sounds as if My Heritage could become the best place to analyze DNA results; however, if I order from Family Tree, my new tests would be subject to the fees at My Heritage because they would be uploaded after November 30th. At present, four of my five tests have already been uploaded, but I need the consent of one cousin before I can upload her test. Lindsey -----Original Message----- From: LornaMoa <lornamoa@gmail.com> To: genealogy-dna <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com>; Max Heffler <max@texsys.com> Cc: Lindsey Britton <lplantagenet@aol.com> Sent: Sun, Nov 4, 2018 5:26 pm Subject: Re: [DNA] Re: Fwd: My Heritage DNA Tests that's the other way round Max. Transfers IN to MyHeritage will still be free for match lists but from 1 Dec there will be some sort of charge to see the extra bits. What Lindsay asked was t'other way MyHeritage into FTDNA are free for the match lists, but cost a one-off $19US to unlock the tools (Chr. Browser) Yes MyHeritage are offering some interesting things. See https://dna-explained.com/2018/11/03/my-heritage-live-2018-dna-announcements/ for a taster Lorna Henderson http://LornaHen.com On 5/11/18 11:19, Max Heffler wrote: > They are free up until 12/1 or 12/31. I do not remember which at the moment. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lindsey Britton via GENEALOGY-DNA [mailto:genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com] > Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 4:14 PM > To: GENEALOGY-DNA@rootsweb.com > Cc: Lindsey Britton > Subject: [DNA] Fwd: My Heritage DNA Tests > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lindsey Britton <lplantagenet@aol.com> > To: GENEALOGY-DNA <GENEALOGY-DNA@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sun, Nov 4, 2018 1:48 pm > Subject: My Heritage DNA Tests > > Are uploads from My Heritage to Family Tree still free? I'm considering the three test offer with free shipping, but my other tests were done at Family Tree. Is there any reason not to use My Heritage? Roberta's news from the Oslo conference suggests that My Heritage may become a major player in the DNA consumer market with special services like DNA extraction and ancestor DNA profile reconstruction not available elsewhere. It appears their business model is to concentrate on providing better and more useful tools/software while relying on partnerships with other companies to increase distribution and provide DNA testing services. Lindsey > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Ten dollars a month But you can join for one month Then cancel  Sent from AOL Mobile Mail Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com On Sunday, November 4, 2018, Lindsey Britton via GENEALOGY-DNA <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: I thought GEDMATCH charged a monthly fee for use of Tier 1 Tools. Lindsey  -----Original Message----- From: Wjhonson <wjhonson@aol.com> To: genealogy-dna <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> Cc: lplantagenet <lplantagenet@aol.com>; GENEALOGY-DNA <GENEALOGY-DNA@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, Nov 4, 2018 7:22 pm Subject: Re: [DNA] Re: Fwd: My Heritage DNA Tests A one time charge of ten dollars  Sent from AOL Mobile Mail Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com On Sunday, November 4, 2018, Lindsey Britton via GENEALOGY-DNA <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: Yes--for a fee, which makes me wonder whether the new features at My Heritage will also require a fee although one would hope not for those who upload by November 30th. Lindsey  -----Original Message----- From: Wjhonson <wjhonson@aol.com> To: genealogy-dna <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> Cc: lplantagenet <lplantagenet@aol.com>; GENEALOGY-DNA <GENEALOGY-DNA@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, Nov 4, 2018 6:17 pm Subject: Re: [DNA] Fwd: My Heritage DNA Tests Ancestor dna reconstruction is offered at gedmatch  Sent from AOL Mobile Mail Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com On Sunday, November 4, 2018, Lindsey Britton via GENEALOGY-DNA <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote:    -----Original Message----- From: Lindsey Britton <lplantagenet@aol.com> To: GENEALOGY-DNA <GENEALOGY-DNA@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, Nov 4, 2018 1:48 pm Subject: My Heritage DNA Tests Are uploads from My Heritage to Family Tree still free?  I'm considering the three test offer with free shipping, but my other tests were done at Family Tree.  Is there any reason not to use My Heritage?   Roberta's news from the Oslo conference suggests that My Heritage may become a major player in the DNA consumer market with special services like DNA extraction and ancestor DNA profile reconstruction not available elsewhere.  It appears their business model is to concentrate on providing better and more useful tools/software while relying on partnerships with other companies to increase distribution and  provide DNA testing services. Lindsey _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

I thought GEDMATCH charged a monthly fee for use of Tier 1 Tools. Lindsey  -----Original Message----- From: Wjhonson <wjhonson@aol.com> To: genealogy-dna <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> Cc: lplantagenet <lplantagenet@aol.com>; GENEALOGY-DNA <GENEALOGY-DNA@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, Nov 4, 2018 7:22 pm Subject: Re: [DNA] Re: Fwd: My Heritage DNA Tests A one time charge of ten dollars  Sent from AOL Mobile Mail Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com On Sunday, November 4, 2018, Lindsey Britton via GENEALOGY-DNA <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote: Yes--for a fee, which makes me wonder whether the new features at My Heritage will also require a fee although one would hope not for those who upload by November 30th. Lindsey  -----Original Message----- From: Wjhonson <wjhonson@aol.com> To: genealogy-dna <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> Cc: lplantagenet <lplantagenet@aol.com>; GENEALOGY-DNA <GENEALOGY-DNA@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, Nov 4, 2018 6:17 pm Subject: Re: [DNA] Fwd: My Heritage DNA Tests Ancestor dna reconstruction is offered at gedmatch  Sent from AOL Mobile Mail Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com On Sunday, November 4, 2018, Lindsey Britton via GENEALOGY-DNA <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote:    -----Original Message----- From: Lindsey Britton <lplantagenet@aol.com> To: GENEALOGY-DNA <GENEALOGY-DNA@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, Nov 4, 2018 1:48 pm Subject: My Heritage DNA Tests Are uploads from My Heritage to Family Tree still free?  I'm considering the three test offer with free shipping, but my other tests were done at Family Tree.  Is there any reason not to use My Heritage?   Roberta's news from the Oslo conference suggests that My Heritage may become a major player in the DNA consumer market with special services like DNA extraction and ancestor DNA profile reconstruction not available elsewhere.  It appears their business model is to concentrate on providing better and more useful tools/software while relying on partnerships with other companies to increase distribution and  provide DNA testing services. Lindsey _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

These three are females. I was attracted by the sale and waiver of shipping fee at My Heritage, and if I purchase tests from FTDNA, then I wouldn't be able to upload results to My Heritage before December 1st. . Subscriptions and incompatibility of test chips are the reasons I've avoided Ancestry despite Peter Calver's enthusiastic recommendation.  Furthermore, I wouldn't be surprised if in time My Heritage can boast of a database as large or almost as large as Ancestry's. Lindsey   -----Original Message----- From: LornaMoa <lornamoa@gmail.com> To: Lindsey Britton <lplantagenet@aol.com>; genealogy-dna <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, Nov 4, 2018 6:17 pm Subject: Re: [DNA] Re: Fwd: My Heritage DNA Tests Lindsey, FTDNA used to be free for MyHeritage but that changed a wee while ago. As to where to order, my tuppence, when sales aren't in the equation: For females it's six of one and half a dozen of the other as we haven't yDNA. For males I still recommend staring at FTDNA in case they / you want yDNA. But either way I consider it best to be in both, and GEDmatch you never know where the match you need is going to test. Ancestry is a poor third for me but cannot be ignored, not that my lot seem to get many matches from there, whereas MyHeritage the cousins  keep pouring out of the woodwork. Other's mileage may well differ. FTDNA doesn't have any complications such as subscription options and just works, has contact details, and I love the phased match lists when you link your closer matches to your tree. MyHeritage is as Tim said, becoming a major player with wonderful tools for us DNA obsessives. To get the best out of MyHeritage I confess I upload my lots' files into RootsFinder (as well as my own private database system) to get a workable match list and the wonderful cluster diagrams RF offers. The MyH list is rather clunky I've not yet heard what the MyH charging system will be from 1 Dec but we will no doubt hear soon. Lorna Henderson http://LornaHen.com On 5/11/18 11:36, Lindsey Britton wrote: > Thank you, Lorna.  Yes, I was asking about uploads from My Heritage to > Family Tree and I wasn't aware of the $19 unlock fee--I thought it > applied only to Ancestry tests.   I don't think match lists are useful > without a chromosome browser. > Any thoughts about ordering from My Heritage rather than Family > Tree?   It sounds as if My Heritage could become the best place to > analyze DNA results; however, if I order from Family Tree, my new > tests would be subject to the fees at My Heritage because they would > be uploaded after November 30th. At present, four of my five tests > have already been uploaded, but I need the consent of one cousin > before I can upload her test. > Lindsey > -----Original Message----- > From: LornaMoa <lornamoa@gmail.com> > To: genealogy-dna <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com>; Max Heffler > <max@texsys.com> > Cc: Lindsey Britton <lplantagenet@aol.com> > Sent: Sun, Nov 4, 2018 5:26 pm > Subject: Re: [DNA] Re: Fwd: My Heritage DNA Tests > > that's the other way round Max. > Transfers IN to MyHeritage will still be free for match lists but from 1 > Dec there will be some sort of charge to see the extra bits. > What Lindsey asked was t'other way > MyHeritage into FTDNA are free for the match lists, but cost a one-off > $19US to unlock the tools (Chr. Browser) > > Yes MyHeritage are offering some interesting things. > See > https://dna-explained.com/2018/11/03/my-heritage-live-2018-dna-announcements/ > for a taster > > Lorna Henderson > http://LornaHen.com > > On 5/11/18 11:19, Max Heffler wrote: > > They are free up until 12/1 or 12/31. I do not remember which at the > moment. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Lindsey Britton via GENEALOGY-DNA > [mailto:genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com <mailto:genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com>] > > Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 4:14 PM > > To: GENEALOGY-DNA@rootsweb.com <mailto:GENEALOGY-DNA@rootsweb.com> > > Cc: Lindsey Britton > > Subject: [DNA] Fwd: My Heritage DNA Tests > > > >     -----Original Message----- > > From: Lindsey Britton <lplantagenet@aol.com > <mailto:lplantagenet@aol.com>> > > To: GENEALOGY-DNA <GENEALOGY-DNA@rootsweb.com > <mailto:GENEALOGY-DNA@rootsweb.com>> > > Sent: Sun, Nov 4, 2018 1:48 pm > > Subject: My Heritage DNA Tests > > > > Are uploads from My Heritage to Family Tree still free?  I'm > considering the three test offer with free shipping, but my other > tests were done at Family Tree.  Is there any reason not to use My > Heritage?   Roberta's news from the Oslo conference suggests that My > Heritage may become a major player in the DNA consumer market with > special services like DNA extraction and ancestor DNA profile > reconstruction not available elsewhere.  It appears their business > model is to concentrate on providing better and more useful > tools/software while relying on partnerships with other companies to > increase distribution and  provide DNA testing services. Lindsey > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY > <https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY> Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY > <https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY> Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community >

Yes--for a fee, which makes me wonder whether the new features at My Heritage will also require a fee although one would hope not for those who upload by November 30th. Lindsey  -----Original Message----- From: Wjhonson <wjhonson@aol.com> To: genealogy-dna <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> Cc: lplantagenet <lplantagenet@aol.com>; GENEALOGY-DNA <GENEALOGY-DNA@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, Nov 4, 2018 6:17 pm Subject: Re: [DNA] Fwd: My Heritage DNA Tests Ancestor dna reconstruction is offered at gedmatch  Sent from AOL Mobile Mail Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com On Sunday, November 4, 2018, Lindsey Britton via GENEALOGY-DNA <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote:    -----Original Message----- From: Lindsey Britton <lplantagenet@aol.com> To: GENEALOGY-DNA <GENEALOGY-DNA@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, Nov 4, 2018 1:48 pm Subject: My Heritage DNA Tests Are uploads from My Heritage to Family Tree still free?  I'm considering the three test offer with free shipping, but my other tests were done at Family Tree.  Is there any reason not to use My Heritage?   Roberta's news from the Oslo conference suggests that My Heritage may become a major player in the DNA consumer market with special services like DNA extraction and ancestor DNA profile reconstruction not available elsewhere.  It appears their business model is to concentrate on providing better and more useful tools/software while relying on partnerships with other companies to increase distribution and  provide DNA testing services. Lindsey _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Ancestor dna reconstruction is offered at gedmatch  Sent from AOL Mobile Mail Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com On Sunday, November 4, 2018, Lindsey Britton via GENEALOGY-DNA <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote:    -----Original Message----- From: Lindsey Britton <lplantagenet@aol.com> To: GENEALOGY-DNA <GENEALOGY-DNA@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, Nov 4, 2018 1:48 pm Subject: My Heritage DNA Tests Are uploads from My Heritage to Family Tree still free?  I'm considering the three test offer with free shipping, but my other tests were done at Family Tree.  Is there any reason not to use My Heritage?   Roberta's news from the Oslo conference suggests that My Heritage may become a major player in the DNA consumer market with special services like DNA extraction and ancestor DNA profile reconstruction not available elsewhere.  It appears their business model is to concentrate on providing better and more useful tools/software while relying on partnerships with other companies to increase distribution and  provide DNA testing services. Lindsey _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Lindsey, FTDNA used to be free for MyHeritage but that changed a wee while ago. As to where to order, my tuppence, when sales aren't in the equation: For females it's six of one and half a dozen of the other as we haven't yDNA. For males I still recommend staring at FTDNA in case they / you want yDNA. But either way I consider it best to be in both, and GEDmatch you never know where the match you need is going to test. Ancestry is a poor third for me but cannot be ignored, not that my lot seem to get many matches from there, whereas MyHeritage the cousins  keep pouring out of the woodwork. Other's mileage may well differ. FTDNA doesn't have any complications such as subscription options and just works, has contact details, and I love the phased match lists when you link your closer matches to your tree. MyHeritage is as Tim said, becoming a major player with wonderful tools for us DNA obsessives. To get the best out of MyHeritage I confess I upload my lots' files into RootsFinder (as well as my own private database system) to get a workable match list and the wonderful cluster diagrams RF offers. The MyH list is rather clunky I've not yet heard what the MyH charging system will be from 1 Dec but we will no doubt hear soon. Lorna Henderson http://LornaHen.com On 5/11/18 11:36, Lindsey Britton wrote: > Thank you, Lorna.  Yes, I was asking about uploads from My Heritage to > Family Tree and I wasn't aware of the $19 unlock fee--I thought it > applied only to Ancestry tests.   I don't think match lists are useful > without a chromosome browser. > Any thoughts about ordering from My Heritage rather than Family > Tree?   It sounds as if My Heritage could become the best place to > analyze DNA results; however, if I order from Family Tree, my new > tests would be subject to the fees at My Heritage because they would > be uploaded after November 30th. At present, four of my five tests > have already been uploaded, but I need the consent of one cousin > before I can upload her test. > Lindsey > -----Original Message----- > From: LornaMoa <lornamoa@gmail.com> > To: genealogy-dna <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com>; Max Heffler > <max@texsys.com> > Cc: Lindsey Britton <lplantagenet@aol.com> > Sent: Sun, Nov 4, 2018 5:26 pm > Subject: Re: [DNA] Re: Fwd: My Heritage DNA Tests > > that's the other way round Max. > Transfers IN to MyHeritage will still be free for match lists but from 1 > Dec there will be some sort of charge to see the extra bits. > What Lindsey asked was t'other way > MyHeritage into FTDNA are free for the match lists, but cost a one-off > $19US to unlock the tools (Chr. Browser) > > Yes MyHeritage are offering some interesting things. > See > https://dna-explained.com/2018/11/03/my-heritage-live-2018-dna-announcements/ > for a taster > > Lorna Henderson > http://LornaHen.com > > On 5/11/18 11:19, Max Heffler wrote: > > They are free up until 12/1 or 12/31. I do not remember which at the > moment. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Lindsey Britton via GENEALOGY-DNA > [mailto:genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com <mailto:genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com>] > > Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 4:14 PM > > To: GENEALOGY-DNA@rootsweb.com <mailto:GENEALOGY-DNA@rootsweb.com> > > Cc: Lindsey Britton > > Subject: [DNA] Fwd: My Heritage DNA Tests > > > >     -----Original Message----- > > From: Lindsey Britton <lplantagenet@aol.com > <mailto:lplantagenet@aol.com>> > > To: GENEALOGY-DNA <GENEALOGY-DNA@rootsweb.com > <mailto:GENEALOGY-DNA@rootsweb.com>> > > Sent: Sun, Nov 4, 2018 1:48 pm > > Subject: My Heritage DNA Tests > > > > Are uploads from My Heritage to Family Tree still free?  I'm > considering the three test offer with free shipping, but my other > tests were done at Family Tree.  Is there any reason not to use My > Heritage?   Roberta's news from the Oslo conference suggests that My > Heritage may become a major player in the DNA consumer market with > special services like DNA extraction and ancestor DNA profile > reconstruction not available elsewhere.  It appears their business > model is to concentrate on providing better and more useful > tools/software while relying on partnerships with other companies to > increase distribution and  provide DNA testing services. Lindsey > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY > <https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY> Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY > <https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY> Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community >

Sent from AOL Mobile Mail Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com On Sunday, November 4, 2018, Lindsey Britton via GENEALOGY-DNA <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> wrote:    -----Original Message----- From: Lindsey Britton <lplantagenet@aol.com> To: GENEALOGY-DNA <GENEALOGY-DNA@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, Nov 4, 2018 1:48 pm Subject: My Heritage DNA Tests Are uploads from My Heritage to Family Tree still free?  I'm considering the three test offer with free shipping, but my other tests were done at Family Tree.  Is there any reason not to use My Heritage?   Roberta's news from the Oslo conference suggests that My Heritage may become a major player in the DNA consumer market with special services like DNA extraction and ancestor DNA profile reconstruction not available elsewhere.  It appears their business model is to concentrate on providing better and more useful tools/software while relying on partnerships with other companies to increase distribution and  provide DNA testing services. Lindsey _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Thank you and I agree.  Now that I see what the business model is, I'm impressed.  I think the company is positioning itself to become a leader in this space.  I uploaded another test today. Lindsey  -----Original Message----- From: Tim Janzen <tjanzen@comcast.net> To: genealogy-dna <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> Cc: 'Lindsey Britton' <lplantagenet@aol.com> Sent: Sun, Nov 4, 2018 5:32 pm Subject: RE: [DNA] Re: Fwd: My Heritage DNA Tests In his presentation at the conference yesterday the CEO of MyHeritage, Gilad Japhet, said that some DNA features at MyHeritage will be paid only features after Dec. 1.  I would encourage everyone who has done an autosomal DNA test to upload to MyHeritage's database prior to then.  MyHeritage's database is growing fast and is approaching 2 million people at this point.  They continue to bring forth features that autosomal genetic genealogists need.  MyHeritage and some of the other companies are also having really good sales right now. Sincerely, Tim Janzen   -----Original Message----- From: Lindsey Britton <lplantagenet@aol.com> To: GENEALOGY-DNA <GENEALOGY-DNA@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, Nov 4, 2018 1:48 pm Subject: My Heritage DNA Tests Are uploads from My Heritage to Family Tree still free?  I'm considering the three test offer with free shipping, but my other tests were done at Family Tree.  Is there any reason not to use My Heritage?  Roberta's news from the Oslo conference suggests that My Heritage may become a major player in the DNA consumer market with special services like DNA extraction and ancestor DNA profile reconstruction not available elsewhere.  It appears their business model is to concentrate on providing better and more useful tools/software while relying on partnerships with other companies to increase distribution and  provide DNA testing services. Lindsey

Thank you, Lorna.  Yes, I was asking about uploads from My Heritage to Family Tree and I wasn't aware of the $19 unlock fee--I thought it applied only to Ancestry tests.   I don't think match lists are useful without a chromosome browser. Any thoughts about ordering from My Heritage rather than Family Tree?   It sounds as if My Heritage could become the best place to analyze DNA results; however, if I order from Family Tree, my new tests would be subject to the fees at My Heritage because they would be uploaded after November 30th.  At present, four of my five tests have already been uploaded, but I need the consent of one cousin before I can upload her test. Lindsey    -----Original Message----- From: LornaMoa <lornamoa@gmail.com> To: genealogy-dna <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com>; Max Heffler <max@texsys.com> Cc: Lindsey Britton <lplantagenet@aol.com> Sent: Sun, Nov 4, 2018 5:26 pm Subject: Re: [DNA] Re: Fwd: My Heritage DNA Tests that's the other way round Max. Transfers IN to MyHeritage will still be free for match lists but from 1 Dec there will be some sort of charge to see the extra bits. What Lindsay asked was t'other way MyHeritage into FTDNA are free for the match lists, but cost a one-off $19US to unlock the tools (Chr. Browser) Yes MyHeritage are offering some interesting things. See https://dna-explained.com/2018/11/03/my-heritage-live-2018-dna-announcements/ for a taster Lorna Henderson http://LornaHen.com On 5/11/18 11:19, Max Heffler wrote: > They are free up until 12/1 or 12/31. I do not remember which at the moment. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lindsey Britton via GENEALOGY-DNA [mailto:genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com] > Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 4:14 PM > To: GENEALOGY-DNA@rootsweb.com > Cc: Lindsey Britton > Subject: [DNA] Fwd: My Heritage DNA Tests > >     -----Original Message----- > From: Lindsey Britton <lplantagenet@aol.com> > To: GENEALOGY-DNA <GENEALOGY-DNA@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sun, Nov 4, 2018 1:48 pm > Subject: My Heritage DNA Tests > > Are uploads from My Heritage to Family Tree still free?  I'm considering the three test offer with free shipping, but my other tests were done at Family Tree.  Is there any reason not to use My Heritage?   Roberta's news from the Oslo conference suggests that My Heritage may become a major player in the DNA consumer market with special services like DNA extraction and ancestor DNA profile reconstruction not available elsewhere.  It appears their business model is to concentrate on providing better and more useful tools/software while relying on partnerships with other companies to increase distribution and  provide DNA testing services. Lindsey > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

In his presentation at the conference yesterday the CEO of MyHeritage, Gilad Japhet, said that some DNA features at MyHeritage will be paid only features after Dec. 1. I would encourage everyone who has done an autosomal DNA test to upload to MyHeritage's database prior to then. MyHeritage's database is growing fast and is approaching 2 million people at this point. They continue to bring forth features that autosomal genetic genealogists need. MyHeritage and some of the other companies are also having really good sales right now. Sincerely, Tim Janzen -----Original Message----- From: Lindsey Britton <lplantagenet@aol.com> To: GENEALOGY-DNA <GENEALOGY-DNA@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, Nov 4, 2018 1:48 pm Subject: My Heritage DNA Tests Are uploads from My Heritage to Family Tree still free? I'm considering the three test offer with free shipping, but my other tests were done at Family Tree. Is there any reason not to use My Heritage? Roberta's news from the Oslo conference suggests that My Heritage may become a major player in the DNA consumer market with special services like DNA extraction and ancestor DNA profile reconstruction not available elsewhere. It appears their business model is to concentrate on providing better and more useful tools/software while relying on partnerships with other companies to increase distribution and provide DNA testing services. Lindsey

that's the other way round Max. Transfers IN to MyHeritage will still be free for match lists but from 1 Dec there will be some sort of charge to see the extra bits. What Lindsay asked was t'other way MyHeritage into FTDNA are free for the match lists, but cost a one-off $19US to unlock the tools (Chr. Browser) Yes MyHeritage are offering some interesting things. See https://dna-explained.com/2018/11/03/my-heritage-live-2018-dna-announcements/ for a taster Lorna Henderson http://LornaHen.com On 5/11/18 11:19, Max Heffler wrote: > They are free up until 12/1 or 12/31. I do not remember which at the moment. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lindsey Britton via GENEALOGY-DNA [mailto:genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com] > Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 4:14 PM > To: GENEALOGY-DNA@rootsweb.com > Cc: Lindsey Britton > Subject: [DNA] Fwd: My Heritage DNA Tests > >    -----Original Message----- > From: Lindsey Britton <lplantagenet@aol.com> > To: GENEALOGY-DNA <GENEALOGY-DNA@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sun, Nov 4, 2018 1:48 pm > Subject: My Heritage DNA Tests > > Are uploads from My Heritage to Family Tree still free?  I'm considering the three test offer with free shipping, but my other tests were done at Family Tree.  Is there any reason not to use My Heritage?   Roberta's news from the Oslo conference suggests that My Heritage may become a major player in the DNA consumer market with special services like DNA extraction and ancestor DNA profile reconstruction not available elsewhere.  It appears their business model is to concentrate on providing better and more useful tools/software while relying on partnerships with other companies to increase distribution and  provide DNA testing services. Lindsey > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

They are free up until 12/1 or 12/31. I do not remember which at the moment. -----Original Message----- From: Lindsey Britton via GENEALOGY-DNA [mailto:genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com] Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 4:14 PM To: GENEALOGY-DNA@rootsweb.com Cc: Lindsey Britton Subject: [DNA] Fwd: My Heritage DNA Tests    -----Original Message----- From: Lindsey Britton <lplantagenet@aol.com> To: GENEALOGY-DNA <GENEALOGY-DNA@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, Nov 4, 2018 1:48 pm Subject: My Heritage DNA Tests Are uploads from My Heritage to Family Tree still free?  I'm considering the three test offer with free shipping, but my other tests were done at Family Tree.  Is there any reason not to use My Heritage?   Roberta's news from the Oslo conference suggests that My Heritage may become a major player in the DNA consumer market with special services like DNA extraction and ancestor DNA profile reconstruction not available elsewhere.  It appears their business model is to concentrate on providing better and more useful tools/software while relying on partnerships with other companies to increase distribution and  provide DNA testing services. Lindsey _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

   -----Original Message----- From: Lindsey Britton <lplantagenet@aol.com> To: GENEALOGY-DNA <GENEALOGY-DNA@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, Nov 4, 2018 1:48 pm Subject: My Heritage DNA Tests Are uploads from My Heritage to Family Tree still free?  I'm considering the three test offer with free shipping, but my other tests were done at Family Tree.  Is there any reason not to use My Heritage?   Roberta's news from the Oslo conference suggests that My Heritage may become a major player in the DNA consumer market with special services like DNA extraction and ancestor DNA profile reconstruction not available elsewhere.  It appears their business model is to concentrate on providing better and more useful tools/software while relying on partnerships with other companies to increase distribution and  provide DNA testing services. Lindsey

The long read data comes in various forms. First is a BAM, unused in this sort of stuff (though used by me to find the big error in Build 38). It has the data with each read tagged by the primer used to identify it. The other is the short VCF file. It has an allele tagged with things like 0|1 or 1|0 or 1|1 (or 1|2 for positions with two different mutations) and these signify phased blocks. In between the phased blocks are 0/1 (or 0/1 or 1/2) to signify a break between blocks. Then there's a long VCF file that looks the same, but has a VAST number of common SNPs that may have a 0/0 or nocall in them. There are VERY few nocalls. Remember that Chromium data which this is doesn't have real long reads ... its bunches of regular Illumina reads which are tagged with DNA badcodes identifying which long piece they came from. Their software does the assignments based on knowing which long read a base comes from. They get long phase blocks by overlapping reads. Doug

I've never even seen a sample of long-read output. What does it look like? Are you able to do some sort of lookup and extract information corresponding to a SNP genotype? Say your paternal cousin has a matching segment with a genotype of AA for rs123 on chromosome 1 at position 55,555,555. You have two long reads that straddle that position, and you've figured out that one of them has an A and the other has a T. Then you would know that the long read with the A is your paternal side. Ann Turner On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 8:13 AM McDonald, J Douglas <jdmcdona@illinois.edu> wrote: > I now have collected all the data in a gigantic spreadsheet .... I have my > own data phased into the > Full Genomes LR blocks, but these are still arbitrary as to father/mother. > > I have columns with the unphased allele pairs for 5 of my close paternal > aunts and cousins. > I'm still trying to get the raw data of one of them. > > I have columns indicating half-identical regions from FTDNA for three of > those people, and equivalents > by done by myself for three more paternal cousins who tested at > Ancestry.com. > These blocks cover 77.5% of my genome. When I get the next paternal one it > will be 80%. > > I have found folks from my maternal side covering over half of the rest, > but am having no luck getting > them to send me the raw data. Having these would get it over 94% of the > genome covered commercially. > > Now the big problem: the logic and computer programming to USE all this > data!!!!!!!!!!! > > Has anybody yet done it? (Using the Full Genomes long read data). > If so ... what did you do? Remember ... I have no parent data. > > Doug McDonald > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 6:04 PM McDonald, J Douglas <jdmcdona@illinois.edu > > > wrote: > > > I'm going to get a complete phase job on myself, for purposes of upload > to > > all the > > > > places that can use it. I don;t have files for either parent. What I do > > have is > > > > > > 1) a comple genome from the Full Genomes Long Read product. This is > phased > > into blocks covering > > > > well over 99% of the genome. I.E. its physical phasing. However, we have > > no idea which block goes with which parent. > > > > > > 2) I have data on one aunt, three first cousins, one first cousin once > > removed, and one second cousin once removed, all on my father's side. > > Together these generate triangulated blocks covering 90% of the > > > > genome. These are done by various companies. > > > > > > The question is .. need I reinvent the wheel? Or has someone done this > and > > provided intsructions, or even software? > > > > > > Doug McDonald > > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >