In a message dated 5/11/99 7:56:28 AM Pacific Daylight Time, exbanker1216@webtv.net writes: << American Marriage records before 1699,by William Montgomery Clemens, 1860-1931. BINGO! P 111 Hawes,Hannah and John Mason, 5 November 1676,, DEDHAM,MASS. Have jotted down some other tidbits of children in the event you want the info but I think we have what you want for Hannah & John. Cheers, Marg >> hi Marg , I hate to be a spoil sport , but , this Hannah and John are some other family ! ...... I spent all day yesterday in the Seattle Library working with the Genealogist on staff and the Vital record book they have , We came to the conclusion that Hannah Arnold of Hartford Conn. and John Mason of Hartford did in fact get married , And they are mine !!! ...... When I got home and got my E-mail I found a copy of the Will of John Mason of Hartford in it , which gives the maiden name of his wife , and her mother ' Elizabeth Arnold ' nee Osborne ...... So my troubles are over , Except , Now I need to find the parents of this John Mason ... which I think might be in the Church records for Hartford , Their out there some where , LDS has only the index , which you saw ! , I found a referance to them , which says ' CHL ' , this must mean " Connecticut Historical Library " , My next stop , Phil